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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 28, 2024 17:40:43 GMT -5
The bible is not god's word, it is man's interpretation of what they think god would say. You need to start being smart, but you are so far down the rabbit hole, there's no hope for you. That is your own opinion and interpretation. You will regret it greatly because of your false and incorrect observation. That is YOUR opinion.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 28, 2024 17:43:18 GMT -5
Look in the mirror and say that. You are not wise in what you say and believe. You atheists keep on believe there is no God, Christ Savior, no heaven or hell. I will continue to believe in God and Christ my Redeemer and Savior. Let us wait until after death day and find out who is right. If you don’t know the answer READ Luke 16 the Story of Rich man and Lazarus. That is YOUR opinion.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 28, 2024 19:56:35 GMT -5
You atheists keep on believe there is no God, Christ Savior, no heaven or hell. I will continue to believe in God and Christ my Redeemer and Savior. Let us wait until after death day and find out who is right. If you don’t know the answer READ Luke 16 the Story of Rich man and Lazarus. That is YOUR opinion. No, that is Jesus Christ teaching in Luke 16 Rich man and Lazarus! That is NOT my opinion at all. I just repeated what Jesus has taught, He is the Redeemer, the Lamb of God who take away the sins of all humanity.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 28, 2024 21:49:10 GMT -5
I think this was a parable, based on the language used for other parables in Luke. And like any parable, there are things to be learned from it. Karma?
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Post by Dan on Apr 28, 2024 21:49:28 GMT -5
Your both wrong. If you believe that man is just dust or physical substance, than the desire for eternal life has no appeal. But Man has a spirit, and that immaterial part of man was designed to live eternally. Separate yourself from the body you inhabit and you'll begin to understand. No one wants to live in a corrupted body that deteriorates, that part of you was designed to perish and die. But that's not an end to you, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7).
It has nothing to do with ego or feeling special, its a belief in a God who has no desire to create life only to destroy it, He did not create all this in vain (Isaiah 45:18). Even without the promise of heaven, most Christians would desire to believe and please the one who created them. But of course, if your convinced that your nothing more than a cosmic accident that was miraculously spit-out by an unexplained self-created universe, then I can understand why a person would be content with a permanent end to life.
Quoting the bible to prove the bible will not prove anything other than your gullibility. The evidence available from proven, verifiable scientific methods shows a completely different result to the myth portrayed in Genesis. Following on from that there is no need to give any credibility to the remainder of the buybull.
Scientific method is not scientific fact. Genesis does not provide the method of creation or even the time. So aside from macro-evolution, which isn't even scientific theory, science has discovered nothing that directly conflicts with the Genesis account of creation.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 28, 2024 22:14:39 GMT -5
I think this was a parable, based on the language used for other parables in Luke. And like any parable, there are things to be learned from it. Karma? Luke 16 wasn’t a parable, Jesus/God revealed what take place after a person has died, his/her soul goes either downward of Hades or upward in heaven. There was a disciple of Jesus, his name was Lazarus, who died but Jesus raised him back from the dead.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 28, 2024 22:33:16 GMT -5
Quoting the bible to prove the bible will not prove anything other than your gullibility. The evidence available from proven, verifiable scientific methods shows a completely different result to the myth portrayed in Genesis. Following on from that there is no need to give any credibility to the remainder of the buybull.
Scientific method is not scientific fact. Genesis does not provide the method of creation or even the time. So aside from macro-evolution, which isn't even scientific theory, science has discovered nothing that directly conflicts with the Genesis account of creation.
From what you have written here it seems that you have not got a clue about science. I believe you are wilfully ignorant because you fear the truth. Dead is dead. The funny thing is you are not going to know otherwise. All that spinning rosary beads and tossing rice over the shoulder for nothing.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 29, 2024 0:21:01 GMT -5
I think this was a parable, based on the language used for other parables in Luke. And like any parable, there are things to be learned from it. Karma? Luke 16 wasn’t a parable, Jesus/God revealed what take place after a person has died, his/her soul goes either downward of Hades or upward in heaven. There was a disciple of Jesus, his name was Lazarus, who died but Jesus raised him back from the dead. Only in your opinion.
It is only found in Luke, and the language, content, use of antithesis all being the same as in other parables make it seem so. The only difference is the use of the name Lazarus, and that may simply have been to identify more with someone known to the audience, or even the Lazarus in other accounts.
Martin Luther taught that it was a parable.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 29, 2024 0:46:20 GMT -5
No, that is Jesus Christ teaching in Luke 16 Rich man and Lazarus! That is NOT my opinion at all. I just repeated what Jesus has taught, He is the Redeemer, the Lamb of God who take away the sins of all humanity. One thing that really bothers me about the 2x2s is that the majority (not all) firmly believe that they are the only ones that are right about everything of religious thought. They completely disrespect anyone else's beliefs as led and inspired by arrogant self righteous workers and overseers. I've had 2x2 false religion shoved down my throat all my life. Force fed since I was a newborn child until I left in my early 20's and still feel the mental effects when visiting family and in the presence of workers. A lot of 2x2s, friends and workers, are the most judgmental people that I have ever met. Nathan, this is exactly the type of person that you are. You have no respect for anyone else's beliefs or thoughts. Your increased arrogance from being in the work is so evident.
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Post by chuck on Apr 29, 2024 1:23:44 GMT -5
The immaterial part is your influence, the rest goes to dust. Understand what they meant not what you think or want it to mean.
So that verse in Ecclesiastes should read " And your influence shall return unto God who gave it" Wow Your method of interpretation removes everything of substance from the bible, including Christ himself. It reduces scripture to nothing more than incoherent philosophical remedies that serve no purpose. You can't understand what they meant when your inventing it yourself.. Consider that they may have meant what they accually wrote!
Of course it doesn't make sense to you as you have been taught the word G O D is a abstract idea of basically a man in the sky. I know you will say you dont think God is a man in the sky but your language indicates otherwise hence why you have even literalised my post about a influence going back to your man in the sky. Everything you think that is of substance is at its core idolatry. And im curious as to why you think wisdom that helps bring about the best outcomes in life serves no purpose. Tell me what purpose does Jesus literally healing a mans withered hand serve compared to people letting the Christ character heal the miserable functions of the hand?, one is infinitely useful applicable and appliable while the other serves what purpose exactly?. "Consider that they may have meant what they accually wrote!" So what did they actually write because what you read is a English translation by people who did not understand the relationship between the ancient Hebrew language and culture and circumstances. How many words and greek concepts have been applied over the top of the Hebrew ones?. That statment is ignorant at best when considering how many things you say are not even relevant to the original Hebrew thought process. Form vs function, told in fuction but you are still ignoring that and literally arguing in form without even considering the original tellers, until you do you will continue to acuse me of inventing things.
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Post by chuck on Apr 29, 2024 1:40:19 GMT -5
I think this was a parable, based on the language used for other parables in Luke. And like any parable, there are things to be learned from it. Karma? Luke 16 wasn’t a parable, Jesus/God revealed what take place after a person has died, his/her soul goes either downward of Hades or upward in heaven. There was a disciple of Jesus, his name was Lazarus, who died but Jesus raised him back from the dead. John 11:41-44 [41]Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. [42]And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. [43]And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. [44]And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Lazarus who was from Bethany which is very important but I doubt you will get it, well his sister didn't want his stench uncovered (which I also doubt you will get) it reminds me a lot of the things you uncover, sadly though the things you uncover dont stop smelling of death......
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Post by chuck on Apr 29, 2024 1:53:56 GMT -5
Luke 16 wasn’t a parable, Jesus/God revealed what take place after a person has died, his/her soul goes either downward of Hades or upward in heaven. There was a disciple of Jesus, his name was Lazarus, who died but Jesus raised him back from the dead. Only in your opinion.
It is only found in Luke, and the language, content, use of antithesis all being the same as in other parables make it seem so. The only difference is the use of the name Lazarus, and that may simply have been to identify more with someone known to the audience, or even the Lazarus in other accounts.
Martin Luther taught that it was a parable.
They did not use names like we use names to identify the form/image of an individual or place. A name was much more than that, it told the listeners something about the content of their Character. Even place names have the same concept. Lazarus was from Bethany, when you do a bit of digging you will see why Martha didn't want his stench uncovered, even the word "stench" is a concept, I doubt they were talking about a literal odour but rather something to do with the content of his Character. Hence if the Christ character had been present in his life he wouldn't have died(not literally) to begin with......John 11:21,41-44 [21]Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 29, 2024 3:58:17 GMT -5
Chuck is onto something. From research I have done, Lazarus (in this event) was someone who had been ex-communicated and treated as if he was dead. When the shunning finished, it was as if he had been brought back to life. This then explains some of the other things that were said. It is still practiced today there by some of the stricter sects.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 29, 2024 8:23:17 GMT -5
No, that is Jesus Christ teaching in Luke 16 Rich man and Lazarus! That is NOT my opinion at all. I just repeated what Jesus has taught, He is the Redeemer, the Lamb of God who take away the sins of all humanity. One thing that really bothers me about the 2x2s is that the majority (not all) firmly believe that they are the only ones that are right about everything of religious thought. They completely disrespect anyone else's beliefs as led and inspired by arrogant self righteous workers and overseers. I've had 2x2 false religion shoved down my throat all my life. Force fed since I was a newborn child until I left in my early 20's and still feel the mental effects when visiting family and in the presence of workers. A lot of 2x2s, friends and workers, are the most judgmental people that I have ever met. Nathan, this is exactly the type of person that you are. You have no respect for anyone else's beliefs or thoughts. Your increased arrogance from being in the work is so evident. I disagree with you, here is why… It has been God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit plan from beginning about One WAY because it leads to NO confusion, for those who followHis plan of Salvation. One path, One heaven, One Christ/Redeemer Jesus the Savior, One Ark and One door to Enter, One Shepherd and One fold, One Jesus Christ New Testament ministry and fellowship…. Jesus Christ Truth and Way and the ONLY way can make MANY people upset! Because it proves our preconceived ideas, thinking, relgions are wrong and God’s way is the ONLY way to Salvation. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that his disciples and shall be hated by ALL men! They shall be persecuted, reject by most people! Because they don’t see or understand Jesus Christ Truth and Way is the ONLY Way for God the Father to forgive our sins and allow our souls to enter heaven after we DIE.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 29, 2024 8:38:36 GMT -5
Chuck is onto something. From research I have done, Lazarus (in this event) was someone who had been ex-communicated and treated as if he was dead. When the shunning finished, it was as if he had been brought back to life. This then explains some of the other things that were said. It is still practiced today there by some of the stricter sects. I say after you, me and all humanity die and each of us will find out whether Jesus was speaking an actual event to take place after death in Luke 16 or NOT! The unbeliever souls will go to hades the realm of the dead/under worlds. The believers souls will ascend to heaven to be with God and Christ in heaven. Paul wrote in his epistles after we died our souls will be ascended to God and in Christ’s presence in heaven. Read I Cor. 15; Rev. where God told the souls of believers to rest from their labors. Peter and Paul wrote after the death of Jesus his soul/Spirit went to hades to release the Old Testament souls who had been held captive because of sins because he had paid the ransom price for them on Calvary. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead, to announce he had overcame death and can set all men FREE from Hades if they believed, he had died for their sins. Jesus used the death of Lazarus disciple to prove to all the world of the coming Resurrection of the believers will take place when He returns as King 🤴 of kings and LORD of lord to rule and reign 1000 years on the earth and the Universe.
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Post by snow on Apr 29, 2024 16:47:46 GMT -5
Chuck is onto something. From research I have done, Lazarus (in this event) was someone who had been ex-communicated and treated as if he was dead. When the shunning finished, it was as if he had been brought back to life. This then explains some of the other things that were said. It is still practiced today there by some of the stricter sects. Absolutely. It wasn't just the Jews that shunned people from their tribes and were literally considered dead to these tribes. They could walk among them and not be acknowledged. If the tribe leader reinstated them it was literally like being raised from the dead. Just metaphorically. So it doesn't surprise me to see that type of language in the Bible because shunning was a 'death' and it was frequently practiced. Now when Christians read the bible they see it as a literal physical death and a returning to a physical life. I wouldn't be surprised if those who were shunned had to go to 'Hades' the 'garbage dump' in order to survive. When they were reinstated they would be able to return from 'Hades'.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 29, 2024 20:28:52 GMT -5
One thing that really bothers me about the 2x2s is that the majority (not all) firmly believe that they are the only ones that are right about everything of religious thought. They completely disrespect anyone else's beliefs as led and inspired by arrogant self righteous workers and overseers. I've had 2x2 false religion shoved down my throat all my life. Force fed since I was a newborn child until I left in my early 20's and still feel the mental effects when visiting family and in the presence of workers. A lot of 2x2s, friends and workers, are the most judgmental people that I have ever met. Nathan, this is exactly the type of person that you are. You have no respect for anyone else's beliefs or thoughts. Your increased arrogance from being in the work is so evident. I disagree with you, here is why… It has been God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit plan from beginning about One WAY because it leads to NO confusion, for those who followHis plan of Salvation. One path, One heaven, One Christ/Redeemer Jesus the Savior, One Ark and One door to Enter, One Shepherd and One fold, One Jesus Christ New Testament ministry and fellowship…. Jesus Christ Truth and Way and the ONLY way can make MANY people upset! Because it proves our preconceived ideas, thinking, relgions are wrong and God’s way is the ONLY way to Salvation. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that his disciples and shall be hated by ALL men! They shall be persecuted, reject by most people! Because they don’t see or understand Jesus Christ Truth and Way is the ONLY Way for God the Father to forgive our sins and allow our souls to enter heaven after we DIE. Nathan, there is something that you and all of those self-righteous, self-centred, egotistical, arrogant 2x2 friends and workers need to understand. If you are trying to win someone over to your beliefs, you don't criticize and preach down to them telling them how wrong they are and how right you are. But you, Nathan, and the 2x2s that do this are too stupid to realize that this does not draw people TO you, it chases them away. It makes them hate you for being an arrogant narcissistic prick. No one likes people like you. But you will never understand this, because you are a narcissist and only see things one way. Your way. You wonder why the number of converts into the 2x2s has dropped drastically in the last 35 years? Uneducated people trying to tell educated people that they know so much more, but really they know so much less. Just like you Nathan. You need to start being smart.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 29, 2024 21:26:04 GMT -5
I disagree with you, here is why… It has been God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit plan from beginning about One WAY because it leads to NO confusion, for those who followHis plan of Salvation. One path, One heaven, One Christ/Redeemer Jesus the Savior, One Ark and One door to Enter, One Shepherd and One fold, One Jesus Christ New Testament ministry and fellowship…. Jesus Christ Truth and Way and the ONLY way can make MANY people upset! Because it proves our preconceived ideas, thinking, relgions are wrong and God’s way is the ONLY way to Salvation. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that his disciples and shall be hated by ALL men! They shall be persecuted, reject by most people! Because they don’t see or understand Jesus Christ Truth and Way is the ONLY Way for God the Father to forgive our sins and allow our souls to enter heaven after we DIE. Nathan, there is something that you and all of those self-righteous, self-centred, egotistical, arrogant 2x2 friends and workers need to understand. If you are trying to win someone over to your beliefs, you don't criticize and preach down to them telling them how wrong they are and how right you are. But you, Nathan, and the 2x2s that do this are too stupid to realize that this does not draw people TO you, it chases them away. It makes them hate you for being an arrogant narcissistic prick. No one likes people like you. But you will never understand this, because you are a narcissist and only see things one way. Your way. You wonder why the number of converts into the 2x2s has dropped drastically in the last 35 years? Uneducated people trying to tell educated people that they know so much more, but really they know so much less. Just like you Nathan. You need to start being smart. Nathan has made a god for himself that is the mirror image of Nathan. He is not alone alone in doing so. All gods are made in the image of those who worship them.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 29, 2024 21:34:19 GMT -5
I disagree with you, here is why… It has been God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit plan from beginning about One WAY because it leads to NO confusion, for those who followHis plan of Salvation. One path, One heaven, One Christ/Redeemer Jesus the Savior, One Ark and One door to Enter, One Shepherd and One fold, One Jesus Christ New Testament ministry and fellowship…. Jesus Christ Truth and Way and the ONLY way can make MANY people upset! Because it proves our preconceived ideas, thinking, relgions are wrong and God’s way is the ONLY way to Salvation. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that his disciples and shall be hated by ALL men! They shall be persecuted, reject by most people! Because they don’t see or understand Jesus Christ Truth and Way is the ONLY Way for God the Father to forgive our sins and allow our souls to enter heaven after we DIE. Nathan, there is something that you and all of those self-righteous, self-centred, egotistical, arrogant 2x2 friends and workers need to understand. If you are trying to win someone over to your beliefs, you don't criticize and preach down to them telling them how wrong they are and how right you are. But you, Nathan, and the 2x2s that do this are too stupid to realize that this does not draw people TO you, it chases them away. It makes them hate you for being an arrogant narcissistic prick. No one likes people like you. But you will never understand this, because you are a narcissist and only see things one way. Your way. You wonder why the number of converts into the 2x2s has dropped drastically in the last 35 years? Uneducated people trying to tell educated people that they know so much more, but really they know so much less. Just like you Nathan. You need to start being smart. Jesus said “Enter ye in at the straight and narrow way because there are few shall find it.” The truth of God can be very harsh! Jesus called a Gentile woman a dog to test her faith to see how much she wanted to help her sickly daughter. She said “ even a dog 🐩 willing to eat the crumb has fallen from the table.” She wasn’t offended by Jesus and was willing to be humiliated so, Jesus would save her daughter from death. Jesus praised the Gentile woman great faith for going the extra mile to receive help from God, not letting her pride get in her way to get help. The Truth and Way of God and Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to heaven will offend many, only the few will NOT let it upset set them because it is the wisdom of God to get the Quality and NOT the quantity out of this world.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 29, 2024 21:56:19 GMT -5
Nathan, there is something that you and all of those self-righteous, self-centred, egotistical, arrogant 2x2 friends and workers need to understand. If you are trying to win someone over to your beliefs, you don't criticize and preach down to them telling them how wrong they are and how right you are. But you, Nathan, and the 2x2s that do this are too stupid to realize that this does not draw people TO you, it chases them away. It makes them hate you for being an arrogant narcissistic prick. No one likes people like you. But you will never understand this, because you are a narcissist and only see things one way. Your way. You wonder why the number of converts into the 2x2s has dropped drastically in the last 35 years? Uneducated people trying to tell educated people that they know so much more, but really they know so much less. Just like you Nathan. You need to start being smart. John the Baptist and Jesus called the Jews Children of vipers/Satan, dogs and swine … hold on… That is completely irrelevant unless you see yourself as a modern day Jesus, or John the Baptist, and then that really tells us something.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 29, 2024 22:01:57 GMT -5
John the Baptist and Jesus called the Jews Children of vipers/Satan, dogs and swine … hold on… That is completely irrelevant unless you see yourself as a modern day Jesus, or John the Baptist, and then that really tells us something. Nathan has a revelation from Fwank Stranges himself. Praise the Fwank.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 29, 2024 23:16:00 GMT -5
That is completely irrelevant unless you see yourself as a modern day Jesus, or John the Baptist, and then that really tells us something. Nathan has a revelation from Fwank Stranges himself. Praise the Fwank. 😁And don’t forget Jesus Christ , God and the Holy Spirit also. 👍
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 29, 2024 23:43:59 GMT -5
John the Baptist and Jesus called the Jews Children of vipers/Satan, dogs and swine … hold on… That is completely irrelevant unless you see yourself as a modern day Jesus, or John the Baptist, and then that really tells us something. FYI, God has raised true believers like John the Baptist, Paul, Peter, John, Timothy, Silas, Luke, Prisilla and Aquila, Stephen, Philip the Evangelist, and Nathan😁in every generation through the centuries, even to this day to assist and guide the Church in the straight and narrow Way. So, the church stays on the Right Path and correct course of Jesus Christ 2x2 apostolic ministry New Testament, which lead to Eternal life. Read Rev. chapter 11-12.
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Post by chuck on Apr 30, 2024 0:07:06 GMT -5
Chuck is onto something. From research I have done, Lazarus (in this event) was someone who had been ex-communicated and treated as if he was dead. When the shunning finished, it was as if he had been brought back to life. This then explains some of the other things that were said. It is still practiced today there by some of the stricter sects. I say after you, me and all humanity die and each of us will find out whether Jesus was speaking an actual event to take place after death in Luke 16 or NOT! The unbeliever souls will go to hades the realm of the dead/under worlds. The believers souls will ascend to heaven to be with God and Christ in heaven. Paul wrote in his epistles after we died our souls will be ascended to God and in Christ’s presence in heaven. Read I Cor. 15; Rev. where God told the souls of believers to rest from their labors. Peter and Paul wrote after the death of Jesus his soul/Spirit went to hades to release the Old Testament souls who had been held captive because of sins because he had paid the ransom price for them on Calvary. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead, to announce he had overcame death and can set all men FREE from Hades if they believed, he had died for their sins. Jesus used the death of Lazarus disciple to prove to all the world of the coming Resurrection of the believers will take place when He returns as King 🤴 of kings and LORD of lord to rule and reign 1000 years on the earth and the Universe. Nathan, Peter and Paul were Jews, to a Jew your soul died when you stopped breathing, Jews did not believe your "soul" went anywhere except into the grave and then it turned back to dust. Understand what their view on such matters means to your entire philosophy.
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Post by chuck on Apr 30, 2024 0:17:17 GMT -5
Chuck is onto something. From research I have done, Lazarus (in this event) was someone who had been ex-communicated and treated as if he was dead. When the shunning finished, it was as if he had been brought back to life. This then explains some of the other things that were said. It is still practiced today there by some of the stricter sects. There is always a story behind the story, couple this together with the way they communicated wisdom you will find while still being a superstitious people it is nothing like we have been taught by the religion Christianity.
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Post by chuck on Apr 30, 2024 0:23:38 GMT -5
That is completely irrelevant unless you see yourself as a modern day Jesus, or John the Baptist, and then that really tells us something. Nathan has a revelation from Fwank Stranges himself. Praise the Fwank. The only thing Frank pulled the covers back on was self indoctrination.
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Post by nathan2 on Apr 30, 2024 0:25:19 GMT -5
I say after you, me and all humanity die and each of us will find out whether Jesus was speaking an actual event to take place after death in Luke 16 or NOT! The unbeliever souls will go to hades the realm of the dead/under worlds. The believers souls will ascend to heaven to be with God and Christ in heaven. Paul wrote in his epistles after we died our souls will be ascended to God and in Christ’s presence in heaven. Read I Cor. 15; Rev. where God told the souls of believers to rest from their labors. Peter and Paul wrote after the death of Jesus his soul/Spirit went to hades to release the Old Testament souls who had been held captive because of sins because he had paid the ransom price for them on Calvary. God the Father raised Jesus from the dead, to announce he had overcame death and can set all men FREE from Hades if they believed, he had died for their sins. Jesus used the death of Lazarus disciple to prove to all the world of the coming Resurrection of the believers will take place when He returns as King 🤴 of kings and LORD of lord to rule and reign 1000 years on the earth and the Universe. Nathan, Peter and Paul were Jews, to a Jew your soul died when you stopped breathing, Jews did not believe your "soul" went anywhere except into the grave and then it turned back to dust. Understand what their view on such matters means to your entire philosophy. Chuck, you don’t know what you believe or what you were talking about when you started posting 2 or 3 years ago. You still don’t know what you are talking now! Peter a Jew wrote in Acts 2 about King David a Jew, who knew his soul was in Hades, and he was waiting for the day for the Messiah/Jesus coming to rescue all Old True believers from Abraham’s Bosom READ Luke 16. Jesus was a Jew and he KNEW about hades and heaven. He or His Spirit had been to both places. The true Old Test. Believers KNEW about hades and the graves and heaven…. Which builder is God, where they were heading through Faith seeking for a better country. Read Hebrews 11 the Faith believers of the Old Test.
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Post by ForeverFree on Apr 30, 2024 0:28:45 GMT -5
Nathan, there is something that you and all of those self-righteous, self-centred, egotistical, arrogant 2x2 friends and workers need to understand. If you are trying to win someone over to your beliefs, you don't criticize and preach down to them telling them how wrong they are and how right you are. But you, Nathan, and the 2x2s that do this are too stupid to realize that this does not draw people TO you, it chases them away. It makes them hate you for being an arrogant narcissistic prick. No one likes people like you. But you will never understand this, because you are a narcissist and only see things one way. Your way. You wonder why the number of converts into the 2x2s has dropped drastically in the last 35 years? Uneducated people trying to tell educated people that they know so much more, but really they know so much less. Just like you Nathan. You need to start being smart. Jesus said “Enter ye in at the straight and narrow way because there are few shall find it.” The truth of God can be very harsh! Jesus called a Gentile woman a dog to test her faith to see how much she wanted to help her sickly daughter. She said “ even a dog 🐩 willing to eat the crumb has fallen from the table.” She wasn’t offended by Jesus and was willing to be humiliated so, Jesus would save her daughter from death. Jesus praised the Gentile woman great faith for going the extra mile to receive help from God, not letting her pride get in her way to get help. The Truth and Way of God and Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to heaven will offend many, only the few will NOT let it upset set them because it is the wisdom of God to get the Quality and NOT the quantity out of this world. You don't get it. I don't care what YOU have to say about the bible. You've talked so stupid and so much nonsense on here that no one believes or puts any trust in what you say. All you do is quote bible verses and shove religion down everyone else's throats. Why don't you go back into the work and do that? Oh wait! You can't! YOU ALREADY GOT KICKED OUT OF THE WORK!!!
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