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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 3:08:12 GMT -5
For years you have been telling us how you were warning the ministry in your cult about sexual abuse. Now that the FBI are interested you are pointing the finger at everyone else. Why is that? Because, the FBI will go through with a fine tooth comb, and go after all who KNOW about it and NOT report it! The list is VERY long, they don’t have money or man power and prisons to put all of them in. They probably go after the big FISH and down the line! Like the list of names I posted, I am just a small/tiny fish in the ocean, curly. There are bigger fish the FBI they are going after. The FBI will HELP God to clean His ministry and household of God, is about time. I warned people, the ministry, the 2x2s and exes on here, trying to educate, alert on TMB 23 years ago! On CSA. It was you that was telling us that you knew all about it. not anyone else.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 3:08:21 GMT -5
I believe you two atheists get your Jewish numbers meaning of 40 is purification, 40 days of rain in the great flood, 40 years in the before entering the promised land for the tribe of Israel and the actual 40 days! Acts 1:1-3 Jesus stayed with the apostles and 500 of his followers in I Cor. 15, all Mixed up and you come up with all kinds Crazy ideas. Such crazy idea that Jesus did NOT raised from the dead, when the Old Test. Prophets and king David foretold of the Messiah own Resurrection day for centuries before it took place! Now, you two atheists believe Jesus is still buried underground some where in Israel when jesus said to Mary M. Go and tell your brethren I have Risen/Resurrected! The apostle Doubting Thomas, said he didn’t believe Jesus had risen from the dead. Jesus appeared to him and said Thomas, come and touch my wounds and he did then he said to Jesus “You are My Lord and God!” Have you two atheists got together smoked some weeds and came up with the Jewish number 40 was only Symbolic to Jesus own resurrection and 40 days spending time with the apostles and 500 disciples didn’t happened? WOW! You two atheists need to STOP talking/reading each others posts, you make the True Christians want to stay away from your crazy Bible studies on TMB. Do you know what a meta-story is Nathan?. No, please tell me.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 3:11:58 GMT -5
Because, the FBI will go through with a fine tooth comb, and go after all who KNOW about it and NOT report it! The list is VERY long, they don’t have money or man power and prisons to put all of them in. They probably go after the big FISH and down the line! Like the list of names I posted, I am just a small/tiny fish in the ocean, curly. There are bigger fish the FBI they are going after. The FBI will HELP God to clean His ministry and household of God, is about time. I warned people, the ministry, the 2x2s and exes on here, trying to educate, alert on TMB 23 years ago! On CSA. It was you that was telling us that you knew all about it. not anyone else. I didn’t KNOW All of CSA cases in the 2x2s. I just had 1 case back in 1980s when I was in the work. Get your facts right, please. I knew quite a bit about CSA after I left the work so, I tried to warn people, the 2x2s about it on TMB 23 years ago!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 3:23:19 GMT -5
It was you that was telling us that you knew all about it. not anyone else. I didn’t KNOW All of CSA cases in the 2x2s. I just had 1 case back in 1980s when I was in the work. Get your facts right, please. I knew quite a bit about CSA after I left the work so, I tried to warn people, the 2x2s about it on TMB 23 years ago! That's a great example of contradicting yourself in not many words. (forty)
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 4:12:08 GMT -5
I didn’t KNOW All of CSA cases in the 2x2s. I just had 1 case back in 1980s when I was in the work. Get your facts right, please. I knew quite a bit about CSA after I left the work so, I tried to warn people, the 2x2s about it on TMB 23 years ago! That's a great example of contradicting yourself in not many words. (forty) Are you a slow learner or reader? When you were a child? Did you fall down from the stairs too many times…. 40 days, Jesus didn’t raise from the dead? Was he a ghost walking for 40 days? Can a ghost eat foods? The resurrected Jesus did eat meals with his followers during 40 days he came back from the dead. You atheists 2x2s are NOT using the Brains, God has given you! You come up with nonsense ideas after you rejected Jesus as your God and Savior. You fill your head with strange ideas and belief.
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Post by help on Feb 24, 2024 4:57:02 GMT -5
Don't think you will ever find an atheist 2x2. Bit of an oxymoron that one. Also we don't fill our heads with strange ideas and beliefs and are not under investigation by the FBI.
We do value the brain we were given and use it by preferring fact, rather than a belief system based on imaginations of the mind. A much more sensible and practical way to live. You are in control of your life and the choices you make. Life here is much more rewarding when you take charge of your life and not follow someone else's idea of the way it should be lived.
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Post by charlesfoxtrot on Feb 24, 2024 5:52:23 GMT -5
Nathan, the one case you know of in the 80s, did you report it to Advocates For the Truth? Is the abuser still alive?
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Post by charlesfoxtrot on Feb 24, 2024 5:53:08 GMT -5
I don't remember you personally Nathan but a friend says you were really good at pingpong! (MT)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 6:55:45 GMT -5
That's a great example of contradicting yourself in not many words. (forty) Are you a slow learner or reader? When you were a child? Did you fall down from the stairs too many times…. 40 days, Jesus didn’t raise from the dead? Was he a ghost walking for 40 days? Can a ghost eat foods? The resurrected Jesus did eat meals with his followers during 40 days he came back from the dead. You atheists 2x2s are NOT using the Brains, God has given you! You come up with nonsense ideas after you rejected Jesus as your God and Savior. You fill your head with strange ideas and belief. It is widely accepted among bible scholars that the number forty just meant lots. Do you believe they are wrong?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 7:33:54 GMT -5
I don't remember you personally Nathan but a friend says you were really good at pingpong! (MT) Pingpong balls are hollow and contain air. There are no visible openings.
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Post by Annan on Feb 24, 2024 7:45:24 GMT -5
For years you have been telling us how you were warning the ministry in your cult about sexual abuse. Now that the FBI are interested you are pointing the finger at everyone else. Why is that? Because, the FBI will go through with a fine tooth comb, and go after all who KNOW about it and NOT report it! The list is VERY long, they don’t have money or man power and prisons to put all of them in. They probably go after the big FISH and down the line! Like the list of names I posted, I am just a small/tiny fish in the ocean, curly. There are bigger fish the FBI they are going after. The FBI will HELP God to clean His ministry and household of God, is about time. I warned people, the ministry, the 2x2s and exes on here, trying to educate, alert on TMB 23 years ago! On CSA. Is that what you are going to tell your god when he asks why you did not tell the FBI what you know about CSA? Make all the excuses you want, Natie. Hellbound. I'm going to have to start calling you the artful dodger.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 8:42:38 GMT -5
Because, the FBI will go through with a fine tooth comb, and go after all who KNOW about it and NOT report it! The list is VERY long, they don’t have money or man power and prisons to put all of them in. They probably go after the big FISH and down the line! Like the list of names I posted, I am just a small/tiny fish in the ocean, curly. There are bigger fish the FBI they are going after. The FBI will HELP God to clean His ministry and household of God, is about time. I warned people, the ministry, the 2x2s and exes on here, trying to educate, alert on TMB 23 years ago! On CSA. Is that what you are going to tell your god when he asks why you did not tell the FBI what you know about CSA? Make all the excuses you want, Natie. Hellbound. I'm going to have to start calling you the artful dodger. Majority of the people around the world for centuries, including you are CSA artful dodger yourself, Annie. Don’t be a hypocrite, and a self-righteous Pharisee, Annie. You are guilty as hell so, Jail bound and Hell bound for the majority people around the world, that is including you, also.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 8:52:54 GMT -5
It's not only the offenders but those who covered for them and those in the fellowship who ignore or minimized the abuse. People have to be in denial to continue in the group. The Bible says come out from among them and be ye separate which is what many are doing. Cleaning, cutting and pruning is just another excuse for the state the fellowship is in. You must be in denial to say there's nothing embarrassing about it. It's down right shameful, disqusting and shocking the way victims have been treated and offenders being allowed to continue offending. What's just as shocking is you still continue to claim it's the only true fellowship. It doesn’t change the Truth, God’s Way and Truth are perfect but the people are NOT. Jesus Christ 2x2 apostolic Itinerant ministry and fellowship established by God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit themselves! Before sending out the 12 apostles in Matthew 9: 37-38 Jesus asked them to pray that God the Father will continue to send out more workers/apostles out into the harvest/the world. God the Father sent out another 70 in Luke 10:1-42 and MANY more in the book of Acts such as Matthias, Paul, Silas, Luke, Mark, and many/more workers the next 2000 years plus even to our days! If Jesus 2x2 ministry and the church/fellowship was NOT of God it would have been destroyed by the end of the 1st century but their enemies/RCC tried for 1800 years and many enemies tried the last 50 years still haven’t succeed! It’s Godhead origin and you can’t destroy it. Paul once was an Anti-truth and Way of Jesus, who wrote For we can’t do anything against/destroy God’s truth but ONLY for the Truth in Jesus. God ALWAYS wins at the end, it’s written on stone/the Bible for all to read. A wise man Gamelio said in Acts 5 If the apostles work be of men it will be destroyed! But it be of God, then you find yourself FIGHTING against God! You can try all you want but only spread the gospel/the fire further! Into all the world before Jesus Returns! You are speeding up Jesus 2nd Coming read II Thess 2:1-15. Read the 7 churches in the book of Revelation! Christ/God himself sent the message to 5 churches were really, really in bad shape. He told them to REPENT of their sins or He will REMOVE their candle sticks, their crowns of life and blotted their names from the book of life. Christ is a lot more scarier than the FBI wouldn’t you think?
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Post by charlesfoxtrot on Feb 24, 2024 9:47:22 GMT -5
I don't remember you personally Nathan but a friend says you were really good at pingpong! (MT) Pingpong balls are hollow and contain air. There are no visible openings. I'm not speaking in euphemisms! The Friend remembers how good Nathan was playing ping pong. I hope that everyone who knows of a hidden case of child abuse will report, even if it is anonymous to AFTT. It is so important and means that more victims may feel comfortable coming forward if they hear a certain name come up.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 10:07:47 GMT -5
Nathan, the one case you know of in the 80s, did you report it to Advocates For the Truth? Is the abuser still alive? The Advocates For Truth didn’t exist in 1980s, buddy. I didn’t meet the abuser, we just heard a story from one the friends about his grand daughter was abused by an unprofessing uncle. It’s up to that professing family to report CSA now.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 10:12:02 GMT -5
I don't remember you personally Nathan but a friend says you were really good at pingpong! (MT) Yes, I was OK at ping pong game. I was on Montana staff in 1990-1 in Bozeman, MT. How old were you back then? There is one professing friends, who has a practice as a marriage counselor, and a few of 2x2 CSA cases sent to him back in those days when I was in the field. I read that he is still active helping the 2x2 CSA cases these days, the friends and workers KNOW about him in Montana.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 10:31:51 GMT -5
Are you a slow learner or reader? When you were a child? Did you fall down from the stairs too many times…. 40 days, Jesus didn’t raise from the dead? Was he a ghost walking for 40 days? Can a ghost eat foods? The resurrected Jesus did eat meals with his followers during 40 days he came back from the dead. You atheists 2x2s are NOT using the Brains, God has given you! You come up with nonsense ideas after you rejected Jesus as your God and Savior. You fill your head with strange ideas and belief. It is widely accepted among bible scholars that the number forty just meant lots. Do you believe they are wrong? Yes, I know and have studied for years about the Jews significant and meaning of numbers 3, 7, 12, 40, 70 and so on. I have a book explained all about it at home. It hasn’t changed the Fact! The resurrected Jesus risen from the dead, and he spent 40 days with the apostles and 500 followers of his to instruct them, to carry on the Great Commission in Matthew 28; Acts 1:8-9; Matthew 24:14 to the time of his 2nd Coming, it can happen in this generation! God the Father has delayed His Son 2nd Coming long enough, He has given the Gentiles and Jews 2000 years opportunity and chances in hearing the message of Salvation Jesus SAVES! The New Covenant is coming to a finish! The Beginning of a NEW era, of the COMING King of kings Christ to establish His Eternal kingdom on earth with the True believers, from the OLD and NEW Testament covenants/era to Rule and Reign with Christ 1000 years in the Universe and on the earth, as His quarter in Jerusalem/City.
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Post by Annan on Feb 24, 2024 12:23:53 GMT -5
Is that what you are going to tell your god when he asks why you did not tell the FBI what you know about CSA? Make all the excuses you want, Natie. Hellbound. I'm going to have to start calling you the artful dodger. Majority of the people around the world for centuries, including you are CSA artful dodger yourself, Annie. Don’t be a hypocrite, and a self-righteous Pharisee, Annie. You are guilty as hell so, Jail bound and Hell bound for the majority people around the world, that is including you, also. I'm not talking about anyone but you, Natie. Your attempts at deflection are very telling. No excuse for not contacting the FBI about what you know. Perhaps someone should alert them your way. Hellbound.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 12:47:17 GMT -5
I’m going to defend Nathan at this time.
We as a society have put ourselves first, generally speaking. In other words, humans have typically had to swim upstream to be whistleblowers, and more often than not, have declined to do so.
Prior to the concept of systemic racism, which is related to the idea of complicity, and all sin, previously we might have supposed our piety came from phrases like “keeping our heads down”, or “minding one’s own business”. After all, getting out of your lane could adversely affect your ability to be a good Protestant, work obsessing producer. Moreover, there were potential repercussions to whistle blowing that could very well have settled upon your spouse and family. In every generation, good people have been picking their battles.
All that has changed with the internet. Beating each other up today by what we have done, or not done to report criminal behavior in every form, hind sight, isn’t necessarily helpful. Of course, it behooves everyone to consider, and reconsider everything they’ve done and said, or haven’t, during their lifetime. In essence, Gods judgment has arrived.
I’m going to make this personal.
Bob Williston has proudly related on tmb, his wife’s governmental blessing in the form of licensing of sexual trafficking in the state of Nevada. Should Bob be removed from TMB meetings?
My initial response to the FBI investigation was “oh great, here the JFK killers, J6 entrapment architects, and fake Russian dossier, trump assassins go again”.
But whatever, in all things political in this world, strange bed fellows are made.
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Post by nathan2 on Feb 24, 2024 13:13:36 GMT -5
Majority of the people around the world for centuries, including you are CSA artful dodger yourself, Annie. Don’t be a hypocrite, and a self-righteous Pharisee, Annie. You are guilty as hell so, Jail bound and Hell bound for the majority people around the world, that is including you, also. I'm not talking about anyone but you, Natie. Your attempts at deflection are very telling. No excuse for not contacting the FBI about what you know. Perhaps someone should alert them your way. Hellbound. I am saying I am NOT the only guilty one, but you and the rest of the world, the FBI should come for ALL of you posting on TMB too! For NOT reporting CSA names of workers you read on this message board for over 20 years! Jail and HELL bound for you, Annie.
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Post by Annan on Feb 24, 2024 13:32:29 GMT -5
I'm not talking about anyone but you, Natie. Your attempts at deflection are very telling. No excuse for not contacting the FBI about what you know. Perhaps someone should alert them your way. Hellbound. I am saying I am NOT the only guilty one, but you and the rest of the world, the FBI should come for ALL of you posting on TMB too! For NOT reporting CSA names of workers you read on this message board for over 20 years! Jail and HELL bound for you, Annie. So you are guilty. There it is folks! Tsk tsk. What excuse will you give your god especially with your claims of being a worker? Hellbound.
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Post by fixit on Feb 24, 2024 13:49:31 GMT -5
The apostle Doubting Thomas, said he didn’t believe Jesus had risen from the dead. Jesus appeared to him and said Thomas, come and touch my wounds and he did then he said to Jesus “You are My Lord and God!” You're changing the scripture again Nate... John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God you are My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:25:04 GMT -5
I am saying I am NOT the only guilty one, but you and the rest of the world, the FBI should come for ALL of you posting on TMB too! For NOT reporting CSA names of workers you read on this message board for over 20 years! Jail and HELL bound for you, Annie. So you are guilty. There it is folks! Tsk tsk. What excuse will you give your god especially with your claims of being a worker? Hellbound. His lies have already done that.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:28:50 GMT -5
The apostle Doubting Thomas, said he didn’t believe Jesus had risen from the dead. Jesus appeared to him and said Thomas, come and touch my wounds and he did then he said to Jesus “You are My Lord and God!” You're changing the scripture again Nate... John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God you are My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Why are you tempting Nathan to conceive Christ atheistically?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:32:46 GMT -5
I’m going to defend Nathan at this time. We as a society have put ourselves first, generally speaking. In other words, humans have typically had to swim upstream to be whistleblowers, and more often than not, have declined to do so. Prior to the concept of systemic racism, which is related to the idea of complicity, and all sin, previously we might have supposed our piety came from phrases like “keeping our heads down”, or “minding one’s own business”. After all, getting out of your lane could adversely affect your ability to be a good Protestant, work obsessing producer. Moreover, there were potential repercussions to whistle blowing that could very well have settled upon your spouse and family. In every generation, good people have been picking their battles. All that has changed with the internet. Beating each other up today by what we have done, or not done to report criminal behavior in every form, hind sight, isn’t necessarily helpful. Of course, it behooves everyone to consider, and reconsider everything they’ve done and said, or haven’t, during their lifetime. In essence, Gods judgment has arrived. I’m going to make this personal. Bob Williston has proudly related on tmb, his wife’s governmental blessing in the form of licensing of sexual trafficking in the state of Nevada. Should Bob be removed from TMB meetings? My initial response to the FBI investigation was “oh great, here the JFK killers, J6 entrapment architects, and fake Russian dossier, trump assassins go again”. But whatever, in all things political in this world, strange bed fellows are made. Was there a special dictionaries at your local bookshop? Your comments about the FBI show just how far you have fallen down Alice's rabbit hole.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:37:19 GMT -5
You’re revealing your ignorance, and or willingness to participate in the controlled operation of satan.
While government has the imprimatur of Jesus, not everything done in governments name obeys Jesus.
In fact, government arguably occupies the same position as religious authority. Do you suppose Satan would not thought to infiltrate?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 24, 2024 14:41:06 GMT -5
You’re revealing your ignorance, and or willingness to participates with the controlled operations of satan Your satan only exists in your imagination. Alongside your god. Renting head space to imaginary figures does not pay well.
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Post by Lee on Feb 24, 2024 14:42:45 GMT -5
But sin remains, and you agree. What will you propose to do?
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