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Post by fixit on Jun 9, 2023 21:03:09 GMT -5
I challenge that dressing old fashioned like female workers do is more modest nor is it dressing to a higher standard. Dresses are not more modest than pants nor are they a higher standard. Dressing nicely is far more feminine and a better witness to others. No one is drawn to someone who dresses and wears their hair and clothes old fashion. If they reach the knee its WAY more modest than seeing every nook and crany with pants... Pants don't have to be tight.
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Post by fixit on Jun 9, 2023 21:06:48 GMT -5
Who said anything about pants that show every nook and cranny. At least women do not have a bulge like men. If you like to look at women's legs so be it. In societies that care about modesty women cover their legs. If the workers think skirts are more modest why aren't the male workers wearing them. Did ya forget the part about not wearing women's clothes and visa versa? Clueless Are you challenging a Scotsman's right to wear his kilt?
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Post by shipwreckedsailor on Jun 9, 2023 21:11:05 GMT -5
Skirts it is for men then. Seriously Wally? Are you ok with women checking out the books and crannies of men’s pants? I've yet to see a man with TIGHT pants that would show the old peanuts and banana...my experience anyway...
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Post by shipwreckedsailor on Jun 9, 2023 21:12:37 GMT -5
peanuts and a banana?? Really?? Wally you have my sympathy.
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Post by getreal on Jun 9, 2023 21:17:58 GMT -5
Perhaps you just haven’t been checking. Thank God...really though if it's as obvious as several whiners on here say anyone could see it... Wally, for some reason I have a heart for you. You are the grumpy old uncle, incorrigible, set in your ways, committed to being annoying, bitter and hateful to spite your own self. I see through you. 😀
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:35:44 GMT -5
Did ya forget the part about not wearing women's clothes and visa versa? Clueless So Jesus wore women's clothing and men a few hundred years later fixed the error? There were differences, do better research than TV or Movies...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:38:00 GMT -5
And rightfully so. It started with the Persians...then about 400 years ago women thought hey why not us...and the collapse of decency started... You mean the collapse of decency started when men began wearing pants. Did Paul wear pants or a gown, he wrote those verses? Aaron and sons were wearing breeches...they would be considered pant like or long shorts... Do better research than TV or Movies...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:40:46 GMT -5
If they reach the knee its WAY more modest than seeing every nook and crany with pants... Pants don't have to be tight. Uh huh... Half the time they are wearing those spandex-like pants. They screech and say they are being objectified by a guy who looks at them...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:41:37 GMT -5
And rightfully so. It started with the Persians...then about 400 years ago women thought hey why not us...and the collapse of decency started... You’ve lost me Wally. Are you saying that women are responsible for said collapse of decency? Not sure who gave permission or just rebelled...could have been a mutual thing...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:43:14 GMT -5
Thank God...really though if it's as obvious as several whiners on here say anyone could see it... Wally, for some reason I have a heart for you. You are the grumpy old uncle, incorrigible, set in your ways, committed to being annoying, bitter and hateful to spite your own self. I see through you. 😀 Is that a hate/love thing? Margret and Roselyn sound the same...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 22:44:48 GMT -5
peanuts and a banana?? Really?? Wally you have my sympathy. General term for others. I could describe my endowment in larger terms but everyone would get PO'D...
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 9, 2023 22:49:24 GMT -5
Did ya forget the part about not wearing women's clothes and visa versa? Clueless So Jesus wore women's clothing and men a few hundred years later fixed the error? This pastor does an excellent job teaching the Biblical history and commands about clothing
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 9, 2023 23:00:55 GMT -5
You mean the collapse of decency started when men began wearing pants. Did Paul wear pants or a gown, he wrote those verses? Aaron and sons were wearing breeches...they would be considered pant like or long shorts... Do better research than TV or Movies... "So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace." - Daniel 3:21
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Post by getreal on Jun 9, 2023 23:14:16 GMT -5
Aaron and sons were wearing breeches...they would be considered pant like or long shorts... Do better research than TV or Movies... "So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace." - Daniel 3:21 Good god, with all the important issues of the day this debate seems relevant and critical to you all? Worthy of thought or time? What they wore, what you wear, what women wear, it is all soooooo boringly unimportant.
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Post by getreal on Jun 9, 2023 23:17:52 GMT -5
Wally, tell me what you are wearing right now? Its like a creepy phone call I know a sex offender friend used to make. Tell me what you are wearing and how it makes you godly and worthy of heaven. How dare all you men proscribe what women should look like in any age.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 9, 2023 23:27:22 GMT -5
"So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace." - Daniel 3:21 Good god, with all the important issues of the day this debate seems relevant and critical to you all? Worthy of thought or time? What they wore, what you wear, what women wear, it is all soooooo boringly unimportant. "Good god" is indeed the right person to ask. Why did he focus the Bible on all this stuff instead of something more relevant? I suppose it's because God is VERY VERY VERY VERY ANGRY. He drove Paul made obsessing over how women should dress and do their hair.
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Post by fixit on Jun 9, 2023 23:36:39 GMT -5
Pants don't have to be tight. Uh huh... Half the time they are wearing those spandex-like pants. They screech and say they are being objectified by a guy who looks at them... Professing women I know who wear pants, don't wear spandex-type half the time.
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Post by getreal on Jun 9, 2023 23:40:58 GMT -5
Good god, with all the important issues of the day this debate seems relevant and critical to you all? Worthy of thought or time? What they wore, what you wear, what women wear, it is all soooooo boringly unimportant. "Good god" is indeed the right person to ask. Why did he focus the Bible on all this stuff instead of something more relevant? I suppose it's because God is VERY VERY VERY VERY ANGRY. He drove Paul made obsessing over how women should dress and do their hair. I thought you might be sane. My mistake. Pointless conversation unless there is irony here I am missing. You are serious?
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Post by Dan on Jun 10, 2023 0:25:09 GMT -5
There needs to be some minimum standards for dress. I use to tell people I hired that we had no uniforms, I told them just to wear something casual and comfortable to work. That stopped real quick after I had the hell shocked out of me a couple of times. Even telling women to wear skirts to the knee and long hair can be tricky.
She has long hair and a skirt below the knee
She has long hair and a skirt below the knee.
While I prefer the latter, she just doesn't seem quite as modest ... Maybe its a picture of the same girl, in the morning meeting and later that night?
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 10, 2023 0:47:05 GMT -5
"Good god" is indeed the right person to ask. Why did he focus the Bible on all this stuff instead of something more relevant? I suppose it's because God is VERY VERY VERY VERY ANGRY. He drove Paul made obsessing over how women should dress and do their hair. I thought you might be sane. My mistake. Pointless conversation unless there is irony here I am missing. You are serious? Dan Hilton preached a very important sermon on how women should do their hair and what they should wear. He says: "There are 6 scriptural reasons for long hair. (1) for the husband’s sake; (2) in order to take part in meetings in an honorable way; (3) so as not to be confused with those who do not know God and practice shearing their heads, e.g. woman of Corinth; (4) For the angels’ sake; (5) for the natural side of being becoming; and (6) for the spiritual privilege that a woman has of being a type of Christ’s Church." trutharchive.net/dan-hilton-alberta-canada-convention-1964/The Bible talks about how you have to have long hair for the angels' sake. You think you want to mess with angels who go around killing people just to get some compliments on how stylish your short hair looks? Sounds deadly serious to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 1:45:05 GMT -5
"So these men, wearing their robes, trousers, turbans and other clothes, were bound and thrown into the blazing furnace." - Daniel 3:21 Good god, with all the important issues of the day this debate seems relevant and critical to you all? Worthy of thought or time? What they wore, what you wear, what women wear, it is all soooooo boringly unimportant. Umm we didn't bring it up others did...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 1:45:51 GMT -5
Wally, tell me what you are wearing right now? Its like a creepy phone call I know a sex offender friend used to make. Tell me what you are wearing and how it makes you godly and worthy of heaven. How dare all you men proscribe what women should look like in any age. That is creepy, pound sand...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 1:47:44 GMT -5
Uh huh... Half the time they are wearing those spandex-like pants. They screech and say they are being objectified by a guy who looks at them... Professing women I know who wear pants, don't wear spandex-type half the time. Oh really? And how would you know that scientist?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2023 1:49:04 GMT -5
There needs to be some minimum standards for dress. I use to tell people I hired that we had no uniforms, I told them just to wear something casual and comfortable to work. That stopped real quick after I had the hell shocked out of me a couple of times. Even telling women to wear skirts to the knee and long hair can be tricky.
She has long hair and a skirt below the knee
She has long hair and a skirt below the knee.
While I prefer the latter, she just doesn't seem quite as modest ... Maybe its a picture of the same girl, in the morning meeting and later that night?
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Post by fixit on Jun 10, 2023 2:31:00 GMT -5
Professing women I know who wear pants, don't wear spandex-type half the time. Oh really? And how would you know that scientist? Probably the same way you know "half the time they are wearing those spandex-like pants".
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Post by neighbour on Jun 10, 2023 5:16:23 GMT -5
There needs to be some minimum standards for dress. I use to tell people I hired that we had no uniforms, I told them just to wear something casual and comfortable to work. That stopped real quick after I had the hell shocked out of me a couple of times. Even telling women to wear skirts to the knee and long hair can be tricky.
While I prefer the latter, she just doesn't seem quite as modest ... Maybe its a picture of the same girl, in the morning meeting and later that night? Some of the worst sex cults (à la Warren Jeffs) enforce the strictest dress codes of "modesty" and conformity. There is also a porn genre of women in blouses and knee-length skirts. Any level of dress and undress is sexually alluring to someone. My point is, I guess, is that general society is ultimately the arbiter of what is acceptable in different contexts, as much as we'd like to think there is some fixed, perfect standard of dress for "godly" people.
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Post by mountain on Jun 10, 2023 6:44:32 GMT -5
Did ya forget the part about not wearing women's clothes and visa versa? Clueless Are you challenging a Scotsman's right to wear his kilt? I don't think that's the challenge? It's the right to NOT wear anything underneath it!
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Post by Mac on Jun 10, 2023 7:19:33 GMT -5
Just read the letter from the Missouri meeting. Near the top is this statement, “it was very evident the Holy Spirit was present at this meeting.” You want to deal with embedded culture that causes problems in this fellowship? Then consider this as a classic example of a false doctrine that infects everyone to some degree. Everyone.
By putting this statement at the top, I am now obligated to accept everything that follows without questioning. This do this often used like a hammer. If I don’t agree, then I’m accused of having a bad spirit. By the way. What is this evidence? Did everyone speak in tongues? Was there sound of a mighty rushing wind? Who judged this evidence? Was it Craig Winquist who wasn’t able to pick up on the spirit of his pedophile companion?
We all need to wake up and realize that this doctrine is the hidden driver behind all the coverups and stonewalling. The perps think that they have the Spirit! The cover up overseers think they have the Spirit! They think we have the “wrong spirit”.
The aim of all the people trying to clean this up should be “A Christ led church”. Not “Spirit led”. If it’s Christ led, the Spirit will approve. It’s that simple. But as soon as the Spirit is put out in front, then that empowers the one who is in charge to decide who’s right and who’s not. You see what fruit come from that?
I’ve been pounding on this for awhile and it seems no one is listening. Is anyone catching on to this?
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