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Post by matisse on Mar 18, 2023 12:16:50 GMT -5
Last time I checked, anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. What statements on the Wiki page do you think are false? That includes minors... ??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 12:19:44 GMT -5
YOU: Last time I checked, anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. WALLY: That includes minors (people under 18). Clear now?
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Post by matisse on Mar 18, 2023 12:26:13 GMT -5
YOU: Last time I checked, anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. WALLY: That includes minors (people under 18). Clear now? I understood what you were saying, I still don't understand what your point is with respect to the question I asked. What information on the page do you think is untrue?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2023 12:38:06 GMT -5
YOU: Last time I checked, anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. WALLY: That includes minors (people under 18). Clear now? I understood what you were saying, I still don't understand what your point is with respect to the question I asked. What information on the page do you think is untrue? I made no point on your question, I addressed the obvious issue with your comment on the sources/editors for wiki.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 18, 2023 23:57:58 GMT -5
I'm not saying anything is peachy keen. I'm saying you're fixating on a stupid political fetish. Drag queens gyrating in front of children is a stupid political fetish? I wonder if CSA in the Truth was considered a stupid political fetish or a non issue by some... It was indeed considered a political fetish by some. The difference is, CSA was in reality a serious problem.
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Post by rudyw on Mar 19, 2023 11:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 19, 2023 12:36:10 GMT -5
Not me. I'm quite a scruffy chap. I just can't do the clean shaven off to church look like you do. Other than that, I don't get upset with people that are different to me.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 13:13:42 GMT -5
Homosexuality has been around since the 'beginning' but it's not always been so hated as it has become with the birth of Judaic/Christian/Islamic religions. Homosexuals in a community many times held a position of honor. Shamans, medicine men etc. It's modern day religions that have caused such a hatred for those that are attracted to their own gender. It's something that needs to end imo, but it's hard for those who are religious to do that when their holy book speaks against it. Judaism has done so much damage to those who are attracted to their own gender because it's Judaism that Christianity and Islam are copying and using as their blueprint for religious belief. It was codified as evil around 1500BC, I don't think that was a new feeling... Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt to cinders maybe 300 to 400 years earlier... Thats when we know God got PO'd about that among other things, it probably wasn't a new feeling for him either... Mankind has been around for millions of years and they have inhabited more of the earth than in the middle east. Judism may have outlawed it, but they were only a very small portion of humanity that have existed for a very long time. Many civilizations honored homosexual persons and they held positions of great honor. That's why Judeo/Christian/Islam version of religion are so dangerous for anyone that isn't heterosexual.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 13:19:33 GMT -5
Rogering children is a crime. Obviously. However the likes of Ron the con de Santis and you and Wally seem to want to make life difficult for those that are different. I don't own a bible so would have no idea what Romans say. But if you need a bible to tell you what is right and wrong then you lack empathy. You can pray all you like to your god but it will never give you empathy. Having empathy is one thing. Pretending a man is a woman, or that a woman is a man is not empathy. It’s more akin to coddling someone with a mental illness (which it is.) And that's where you are wrong. It's not a mental illness. It makes me sick that people think anyone that is different from them has a mental illness. We have Judeo/Christian/Islam to thank for the danger these religions put anyone that is not heterosexual in.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 13:24:19 GMT -5
Drag queens don't groom children. Pastors groom children. What makes some people believe drag queens are interested in children? It's kind of like saying that gay workers are interested in woman. Drag queens are the right's current scapegoat. But they haven't complained about them in all the movies that have depicted men as women or women as men over the decades. I guess Robin Williams was a groomer when he played Mrs. Doubtfire. When we dress up as fairytale figures and it happens to be a man and we are female, does that make us drag queens? What these people are doing when they read to children is not grooming. The kids don't see them as anything other than someone dressed up to depict the characters in the story being read to them. It doesn't make them pedophiles. I am so sick of religions that make everyone bad.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 13:32:04 GMT -5
I have to assume now that you are being deliberately stupid and it is not the natural. A transexual entering a bathroom may very well look like a woman and dress like a woman. When they are sitting on the dunny with the door closed they pose no threat. As far as I can tell, all the threatening behaviour comes from female versions of you. If they were forced to go to the mens then that is a real threat to their safety. I suspect you would enjoy that. I didn’t say they were a threat. You said they are uncomfortable using the mens room. I said that women are uncomfortable with men in their washroom. Besides, a man in the womens room could very well be a threat. I assume now that you are being deliberately stupid. Someone that identifies as a woman is not a man. They would be a woman and therefore not a threat to the other women in the bathroom.
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Post by rudyw on Mar 19, 2023 13:53:17 GMT -5
Having empathy is one thing. Pretending a man is a woman, or that a woman is a man is not empathy. It’s more akin to coddling someone with a mental illness (which it is.) And that's where you are wrong. It's not a mental illness. It makes me sick that people think anyone that is different from them has a mental illness. We have Judeo/Christian/Islam to thank for the danger these religions put anyone that is not heterosexual in. I don’t think that just because someone is different than me that they have a mental illness. Someone who is LIKE me could have a mental illness. However, thinking you are something you are not is a mental illness.
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Post by rudyw on Mar 19, 2023 13:55:10 GMT -5
I didn’t say they were a threat. You said they are uncomfortable using the mens room. I said that women are uncomfortable with men in their washroom. Besides, a man in the womens room could very well be a threat. I assume now that you are being deliberately stupid. Someone that identifies as a woman is not a man. They would be a woman and therefore not a threat to the other women in the bathroom. Yes, they are men. Someone who identifies as a cat, or a race other than their own, or a sex other than their own is not balanced.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 13:59:09 GMT -5
And that's where you are wrong. It's not a mental illness. It makes me sick that people think anyone that is different from them has a mental illness. We have Judeo/Christian/Islam to thank for the danger these religions put anyone that is not heterosexual in. I don’t think that just because someone is different than me that they have a mental illness. Someone who is LIKE me could have a mental illness. However, thinking you are something you are not is a mental illness. That's where you go off the rails. They aren't thinking they are something they are not. Look at the vast amount of knowledge we have about what makes gender in a physical body and you would understand that just because we have the body of one gender does not mean that we see ourselves as that gender. That can be due to a number of different biological conditions. If we can be born with both genitalia due to hormones etc. there is no reason why we can't be born a woman with male genitalia and vis versa. It's not black and white. The human condition is far more gray due to the various ways our bodies operate due to hormones, chemical make up etc.
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Post by snow on Mar 19, 2023 14:04:59 GMT -5
Someone that identifies as a woman is not a man. They would be a woman and therefore not a threat to the other women in the bathroom. Yes, they are men. Someone who identifies as a cat, or a race other than their own, or a sex other than their own is not balanced. They don't see themselves as men. They are not interested in women at all. They identify as women. Show me a black person that thinks they are white. You have no idea what that person feels about their gender but you feel qualified to state that you know they are not 'balanced'. Read about the subject in scientific papers. Don't get all your so called information from places that don't know what they are talking about anymore than you do. Here is some information that explains it in fairly easily understood terms for those of us that aren't medically inclined. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/#:~:text=The%20regional%20brain%20differences%20that,gender%20identity%20and%20sexual%20orientation.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 19, 2023 15:05:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying anything is peachy keen. I'm saying you're fixating on a stupid political fetish. Drag queens gyrating in front of children is a stupid political fetish? I wonder if CSA in the Truth was considered a stupid political fetish or a non issue by some... Workers telling small children that they are going to hell unless they join a recently formed cult is also stupid and damaging.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:20:53 GMT -5
It was codified as evil around 1500BC, I don't think that was a new feeling... Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt to cinders maybe 300 to 400 years earlier... Thats when we know God got PO'd about that among other things, it probably wasn't a new feeling for him either... Mankind has been around for millions of years and they have inhabited more of the earth than in the middle east. Judism may have outlawed it, but they were only a very small portion of humanity that have existed for a very long time. Many civilizations honored homosexual persons and they held positions of great honor. That's why Judeo/Christian/Islam version of religion are so dangerous for anyone that isn't heterosexual. I say 6,000 to 13,000 years max, do with that what you will... Other religions have had or have prohibitions against homosexuality it's just not the big 3. Buddhism and Hinduism are not all that clear on the subject others are, Buddhism if pushed will generally give you a NO on ALL sexual conduct as not a good idea. Where do you find acceptance? Generally, The America's and Europe as of late elsewhere No way. Asia and the Pacific are split.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:22:57 GMT -5
What makes some people believe drag queens are interested in children? It's kind of like saying that gay workers are interested in woman. Drag queens are the right's current scapegoat. But they haven't complained about them in all the movies that have depicted men as women or women as men over the decades. I guess Robin Williams was a groomer when he played Mrs. Doubtfire. When we dress up as fairytale figures and it happens to be a man and we are female, does that make us drag queens? What these people are doing when they read to children is not grooming. The kids don't see them as anything other than someone dressed up to depict the characters in the story being read to them. It doesn't make them pedophiles. I am so sick of religions that make everyone bad. This is not accurate...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:23:41 GMT -5
I didn’t say they were a threat. You said they are uncomfortable using the mens room. I said that women are uncomfortable with men in their washroom. Besides, a man in the womens room could very well be a threat. I assume now that you are being deliberately stupid. Someone that identifies as a woman is not a man. They would be a woman and therefore not a threat to the other women in the bathroom. That is not factual...Do better research...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:25:19 GMT -5
Drag queens gyrating in front of children is a stupid political fetish? I wonder if CSA in the Truth was considered a stupid political fetish or a non issue by some... It was indeed considered a political fetish by some. The difference is, CSA was in reality a serious problem. So is what we are facing now, just because you choose to ignore it doesn't mean others will...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:32:23 GMT -5
I don’t think that just because someone is different than me that they have a mental illness. Someone who is LIKE me could have a mental illness. However, thinking you are something you are not is a mental illness. That's where you go off the rails. They aren't thinking they are something they are not. Look at the vast amount of knowledge we have about what makes gender in a physical body and you would understand that just because we have the body of one gender does not mean that we see ourselves as that gender. That can be due to a number of different biological conditions. If we can be born with both genitalia due to hormones etc. there is no reason why we can't be born a woman with male genitalia and vis versa. It's not black and white. The human condition is far more gray due to the various ways our bodies operate due to hormones, chemical make up etc. That's where the dysphoria or mental illness comes in. Hermaphrodites are not really Trans. There is nothing physically observable in a Trans "telling" us they are men or women. Herms have a real medical, issue that most would consider an accident of nature if honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:34:28 GMT -5
Yes, they are men. Someone who identifies as a cat, or a race other than their own, or a sex other than their own is not balanced. They don't see themselves as men. They are not interested in women at all. They identify as women. Show me a black person that thinks they are white. You have no idea what that person feels about their gender but you feel qualified to state that you know they are not 'balanced'. Read about the subject in scientific papers. Don't get all your so called information from places that don't know what they are talking about anymore than you do. Here is some information that explains it in fairly easily understood terms for those of us that aren't medically inclined. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/#:~:text=The%20regional%20brain%20differences%20that,gender%20identity%20and%20sexual%20orientation. Rachel Dolezal and several others "think" they are black....fact...BOOM!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 15:36:06 GMT -5
Drag queens gyrating in front of children is a stupid political fetish? I wonder if CSA in the Truth was considered a stupid political fetish or a non issue by some... Workers telling small children that they are going to hell unless they join a recently formed cult is also stupid and damaging. Excellent defense for Draq Queens gyrating in front of minor children, kudo's...
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 19, 2023 15:37:28 GMT -5
Someone that identifies as a woman is not a man. They would be a woman and therefore not a threat to the other women in the bathroom. Yes, they are men. Someone who identifies as a cat, or a race other than their own, or a sex other than their own is not balanced. Someone that talks to a big imaginary friend in the sky is not balanced either.
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Post by mrdobalina on Mar 19, 2023 15:38:22 GMT -5
Workers telling small children that they are going to hell unless they join a recently formed cult is also stupid and damaging. Excellent defense for Draq Queens gyrating in front of minor children, kudo's... Is not defence, it's giving your argument a bit of balance. Frankly, I'm for neither scenario.
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Post by rudyw on Mar 19, 2023 15:55:07 GMT -5
Yes, they are men. Someone who identifies as a cat, or a race other than their own, or a sex other than their own is not balanced. Someone that talks to a big imaginary friend in the sky is not balanced either. 😆
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2023 16:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2023 16:31:30 GMT -5
Right (sarcasm)... You do know there are at least a few model (in testing) flying cars right now right? Maybe on the shelf this year or next... Flying cars bad, orange man(bad) likes them? Not a Jetsons fan? We've been promised them for decades...
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