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Post by Dan on May 2, 2021 20:11:36 GMT -5
The pics aren't disingenuous, churches were shout down in many states while airliners were not. In my area, churches were closed, but of course you could go to Walmart and stand in line at the cashiers with hundreds of people in the store. I've personally never stopped getting on with life, but it hasn't been easy with all the paranoid nuts around me.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 20:20:28 GMT -5
no, the middle seats are being used look at the second one in on the right. i believe the point being made is that during 2020 churches were not allowed to gather or gather over 10 people(at least in my state) even if they took measures to prevent the virus where as planes for most of 2020 flew anyways with no better measures and removing the middle seat passenger would still not put 6 feet between 2 people... www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/44255063/u-s-airlines-with-the-widest-seats-in-coach/ <<<consumer watchdog only Christians are happy to sacrifice in order to protect their fellow humans. Matthew 5:43 “You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. 44 But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! 45 In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47 If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. there is no scripture i am aware of including the above where it specifically says to stop worship and fellowshipping for any reason...there is no scripture either that suggests sacrificing church meetings for some greater "good/kindness/love"... a couple work arounds were eventually found for some limited contact even then though not everyone was able to participate... if you know of such specific verses start producing them...
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Post by Pragmatic on May 2, 2021 20:22:43 GMT -5
The anti-mask protest are more of a protest that churches are being singled-out more than other places where people gather together? Seems unfair. Really? Wherever you get all these comparative posters is toxic Dan. Get out of there for your own well-being. This kind of message is disingenious and inflamatory and utterly unhelpful. It alludes to some kind of conspiracy or attack on Christianity. Americans just need to get over themselves and stop seeing conspiracy everywhere they look. Get a more positive mindset and get on with life. Churches are not equipped with downward flowing Hepa Filters, planes are. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are not necessary for society to function, and they only complementary to the religion of the attenders, or should be.
Fixit is right in his observation
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Post by Dan on May 2, 2021 20:29:29 GMT -5
Churches are not equipped with downward flowing Hepa Filters, planes are. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are not necessary for society to function, and they only complementary to the religion of the attenders, or should be.
Fixit is right in his observation
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Post by fixit on May 2, 2021 20:48:01 GMT -5
Churches are not equipped with downward flowing Hepa Filters, planes are. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are not necessary for society to function, and they only complementary to the religion of the attenders, or should be. Fixit is right in his observation
Who cares if we need a booster every 6 or 12 months going forward? If everyone was immunised the virus would die.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 21:32:57 GMT -5
Really? Wherever you get all these comparative posters is toxic Dan. Get out of there for your own well-being. This kind of message is disingenious and inflamatory and utterly unhelpful. It alludes to some kind of conspiracy or attack on Christianity. Americans just need to get over themselves and stop seeing conspiracy everywhere they look. Get a more positive mindset and get on with life. Churches are not equipped with downward flowing Hepa Filters, planes are. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are not necessary for society to function, and they only complementary to the religion of the attenders, or should be.
Fixit is right in his observation
at least a couple churches put in medical grade air filters for their services, setup social distancing requirements/seating, mask requirements and no handshakes or hugging allowed plus separate wine/bread services. i believed they were ostracized from and/or denied the ability to assemble anyways. separate issue: when you start thinking churches are not essential you are already in deep kaka...
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Post by openingact34 on May 2, 2021 22:20:15 GMT -5
no, the middle seats are being used look at the second one in on the right. i believe the point being made is that during 2020 churches were not allowed to gather or gather over 10 people(at least in my state) even if they took measures to prevent the virus where as planes for most of 2020 flew anyways with no better measures and removing the middle seat passenger would still not put 6 feet between 2 people... www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/44255063/u-s-airlines-with-the-widest-seats-in-coach/ <<<consumer watchdog only Christians are happy to sacrifice in order to protect their fellow humans. No, not true at all.... Even Jesus, who knew everything, got all Trumpy and didn't want to bother with washing hands before eating. Every day, 3,000 children die of diarrhea, 45% of which can be prevented through washing your hands. www.pri.org/stories/2012-10-15/celebrate-global-handwashing-day-good-scrubIn Mark 7:5 "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?" In Mark 7:14-15, "When he had called all the people unto him, Jesus said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man." For the next 1,800 years, Christians therefore generally did not bother with hand washing and believed that it had no link to disease. Hundred of millions died unnecessarily and most ended up in hell being tortured without end.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 2, 2021 22:38:33 GMT -5
That is true and scary . We have gone all the way back in hopes of limiting our cases in YYC We are going to be okay. Summer is coming, people are outside more, and the virus is going to naturally recede for the summer months. Hopefully vaccines/treatments/herd immunity will likely make it a non-event this fall. If not, we have been through this before. Other than the people who are economically vulnerable (small business owners), we can do it, learning new ways of being that do not have to detract from our quality of life. That's exactly what people were saying in May of 2020.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 2, 2021 22:45:45 GMT -5
Notes from convention, I presume.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 22:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on May 2, 2021 23:03:47 GMT -5
Well... I got my second shot. I thought about not getting it and I even made a doctor’s appt to speak with my doctor and gynecologist. They both kinda just said “get it” and didn’t take me very seriously. It felt like they were super rushed to get me out even though I was there for a doc appt as well as to ask someone “educated” about my concerns. Yeah... it kinda sucked. So I ended up just getting it.
From my 23 year old daughter today. She and I will be doing a lot of praying if this doesn’t work out well for her.
I’m grateful I have faith in our resurrection today and can share that with her. I tended to be a materialist when I was young and shes no different. The worldly culture of our world is definitely hostile to faith.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 2, 2021 23:09:41 GMT -5
The pics aren't disingenuous, churches were shout down in many states while airliners were not. In my area, churches were closed, but of course you could go to Walmart and stand in line at the cashiers with hundreds of people in the store. I've personally never stopped getting on with life, but it hasn't been easy with all the paranoid nuts around me. Fixit is right Dan. These comparative posters ARE toxic! They are inflammatory!
You get two totally opposite views & post them side by side as if they are comparable in some way & seem to think that you are creating something of a truth when you are NOT; -in fact it is deceptive!
Like you did with the plane load of people and the empty church. Those pictures could have been created at any time and therefore proved nothing and was actually deceiving!
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Post by Lee on May 2, 2021 23:09:45 GMT -5
Notes from convention, I presume. The faith is being tried by covid and The Deletion. It’s members are being impelled presently to exercise faith and take appropriate actions or to remain sheeple, spiritually immature, and encumbered.
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Post by Pragmatic on May 2, 2021 23:22:19 GMT -5
Churches are not equipped with downward flowing Hepa Filters, planes are. Churches, Mosques and Synagogues are not necessary for society to function, and they only complementary to the religion of the attenders, or should be.
Fixit is right in his observation
at least a couple churches put in medical grade air filters for their services, setup social distancing requirements/seating, mask requirements and no handshakes or hugging allowed plus separate wine/bread services. i believed they were ostracized from and/or denied the ability to assemble anyways. separate issue: when you start thinking churches are not essential you are already in deep kaka... I didn't say churches are not essential, I said "not necessary for society to function". Two different subjects.
The airflow needs to be ceiling down to floor, therefore minimising horizontal flow, as in a plane, for it to be more effective.
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Post by fixit on May 2, 2021 23:36:27 GMT -5
We are going to be okay. Summer is coming, people are outside more, and the virus is going to naturally recede for the summer months. Hopefully vaccines/treatments/herd immunity will likely make it a non-event this fall. If not, we have been through this before. Other than the people who are economically vulnerable (small business owners), we can do it, learning new ways of being that do not have to detract from our quality of life. That's exactly what people were saying in May of 2020. Yes, Trump said it would go away in the summer. Even as he said it, anyone who could think for themselves knew that Covid-19 was thriving in tropical countries just as well as in cold climates. Trump says coronavirus could be thwarted by summer heat, citing DHS study
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Post by fixit on May 2, 2021 23:40:14 GMT -5
Well... I got my second shot. I thought about not getting it and I even made a doctor’s appt to speak with my doctor and gynecologist. They both kinda just said “get it” and didn’t take me very seriously. It felt like they were super rushed to get me out even though I was there for a doc appt as well as to ask someone “educated” about my concerns. Yeah... it kinda sucked. So I ended up just getting it. From my 23 year old daughter today. She and I will be doing a lot of praying if this doesn’t work out well for her. I’m grateful I have faith in our resurrection today and can share that with her. I tended to be a materialist when I was young and shes no different. The worldly culture of our world is definitely hostile to faith. You're in good company, one of 1.15 billion who've been vaccinated for Covid-19.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 23:54:43 GMT -5
at least a couple churches put in medical grade air filters for their services, setup social distancing requirements/seating, mask requirements and no handshakes or hugging allowed plus separate wine/bread services. i believed they were ostracized from and/or denied the ability to assemble anyways. separate issue: when you start thinking churches are not essential you are already in deep kaka... I didn't say churches are not essential, I said "not necessary for society to function". Two different subjects.
The airflow needs to be ceiling down to floor, therefore minimising horizontal flow, as in a plane, for it to be more effective.
glass half empty glass half full little difference... some air systems blow down, some out and some have directional vents in them i think... lee ?
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Post by Dan on May 2, 2021 23:56:19 GMT -5
Who cares if we need a booster every 6 or 12 months going forward? If everyone was immunised the virus would die.
Vaccinated people are not immune to variants, they remain susceptible to mutating strains of covid.
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Post by Dan on May 3, 2021 0:15:54 GMT -5
The pics aren't disingenuous, churches were shout down in many states while airliners were not. In my area, churches were closed, but of course you could go to Walmart and stand in line at the cashiers with hundreds of people in the store. I've personally never stopped getting on with life, but it hasn't been easy with all the paranoid nuts around me. Fixit is right Dan. These comparative posters ARE toxic! They are inflammatory!
You get two totally opposite views & post them side by side as if they are comparable in some way & seem to think that you are creating something of a truth when you are NOT; -in fact it is deceptive!
Like you did with the plane load of people and the empty church. Those pictures could have been created at any time and therefore proved nothing and was actually deceiving!
Why were unmasked crowds of rioters free to protest while church goers were prevented from gathering? Nothing deceptive about the hypocrisy of that. Why was it fine to shop at Walmart with hundreds of other people in the store, but illegal to sit in a church 10 feet apart? Seemed like a very contrasting set of rules to me.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 3, 2021 1:22:33 GMT -5
Fixit is right Dan. These comparative posters ARE toxic! They are inflammatory!
You get two totally opposite views & post them side by side as if they are comparable in some way & seem to think that you are creating something of a truth when you are NOT; -in fact it is deceptive!
Like you did with the plane load of people and the empty church. Those pictures could have been created at any time and therefore proved nothing and was actually deceiving!
Why were unmasked crowds of rioters free to protest while church goers were prevented from gathering? Nothing deceptive about the hypocrisy of that.
Why was it fine to shop at Walmart with hundreds of other people in the store, but illegal to sit in a church 10 feet apart? Seemed like a very contrasting set of rules to me.
Dan, this what I mean.
You take two completely different actions, events, places, -whatever, -and take them to the extreme opposites and try to use them as if they are comparable!
We aren't taking about "rioters!" They are already breaking the law.
You still can't seem to understand the difference in "protesters," -who is protected under our Bill of Rights and a "criminal" act of "rioting," (take part in a violent public disturbance)
As to stores, -which were considered essential places were conforming to guidelines. However, churches are not an essential.
But is wasn't not long before they also were allowed to meet if THEY practiced the same guidelines!
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Post by fixit on May 3, 2021 1:27:22 GMT -5
Fixit is right Dan. These comparative posters ARE toxic! They are inflammatory!
You get two totally opposite views & post them side by side as if they are comparable in some way & seem to think that you are creating something of a truth when you are NOT; -in fact it is deceptive!
Like you did with the plane load of people and the empty church. Those pictures could have been created at any time and therefore proved nothing and was actually deceiving!
Why were unmasked crowds of rioters free to protest while church goers were prevented from gathering? Nothing deceptive about the hypocrisy of that. Why was it fine to shop at Walmart with hundreds of other people in the store, but illegal to sit in a church 10 feet apart? Seemed like a very contrasting set of rules to me.
Perhaps the authorities thought it would be harder for angry rioters to comply than meek and lowly Christians? Perhaps Walmart sells essential supplies, and sitting in church is not so essential? Perhaps the militant and stupid pastors and congregations made it hard for the more realistic and science-respecting groups?
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on May 3, 2021 9:36:34 GMT -5
My bad , so bad ! Sorry will not do so again !
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Post by dmmichgood on May 3, 2021 12:39:03 GMT -5
I’m convinced all the noise about whether Covid is dangerous or lethal and to whom is but a distraction from a late and possibly last demonic thrust, using the CCP and other demonic agencies around the world against the whole of mankind to “tempt” him into a world wide slavery of unprecedented intensity and proportion. (The history of humanity has been one of struggle against slavery in all of its forms). I think the evidence shows Covid was a weaponized virus to inflict a calculated amount of insult and mayhem and death on the world to distract and to coordinate the devils next move. During this time of kinetic and spiritual warfare I think the internet will be protected like the presence of the Bible and the Church. We will go through the tribulation with everyone else in one sense, yet not in another. We have a faith, the faith, and that is the difference. Do you think that the The Black Death in 1346–1353 which killed 75–200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa was also the the work of demonic agencies?
In that case do you think the Black Death happened for the same reason that this one is happening?
The Black Death (also known as the Pestilence, the Great Mortality or the Plague) was a bubonic plague pandemic occurring in Afro-Eurasia from 1346 to 1353. It is the most fatal pandemic recorded in human history, causing the death of 75–200 million people in Eurasia and North Africa, peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351.
Date: 1346–1353
Deaths: 75,000,000–200,000,000 (estimate)
Disease: Bubonic plague
Location: Eurasia, North Africa
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Post by dmmichgood on May 3, 2021 12:54:13 GMT -5
Mike Lindell launched a new platform today for patriots to fight China’s war on the USA and free and decent citizens the world over. Mike Lindell? I wouldn't take any advice from Michael Lindell! I wouldn't even take any of his pillows if he were giving them away!
Michael James Lindell also known as the My Pillow Guy, is an American businessman and the founder and CEO of My Pillow, Inc Lindell is a prominent supporter of, and advisor to, former U.S. President Donald Trump. He has, without evidence, promoted the toxic plant extract oleandrin as a COVID-19 cure and supported attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.
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Post by intelchips on May 3, 2021 12:59:34 GMT -5
Mike Lindell launched a new platform today for patriots to fight China’s war on the USA and free and decent citizens the world over. Mike Lindell? I wouldn't take any advice from Michael Lindell! I wouldn't even take any of his pillows if he were giving them away!
Michael James Lindell also known as the My Pillow Guy, is an American businessman and the founder and CEO of My Pillow, Inc Lindell is a prominent supporter of, and advisor to, former U.S. President Donald Trump. He has, without evidence, promoted the toxic plant extract oleandrin as a COVID-19 cure and supported attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.Scientific evidence is lacking to support the following claims: To treat congestive heart failure To treat hepatitis C To treat AIDS To treat COVID-19
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on May 3, 2021 13:06:27 GMT -5
If all news is correct and true we are not doing so well up here ! CALGARY -- With more than 8,800 active cases of COVID-19 in Calgary zone, Mayor Naheed Nenshi is concerned about the rapid rise of cases that he says is outstripping some of the largest crisis areas elsewhere in the world. In a statement released Thursday, he said that the peak of the second wave has already been exceeded and new infections just aren't slowing
He also said that with the models currently available on the rate of infection in Calgary, people are becoming ill with COVID-19 at a higher rate here than what is being reported in India. "We're hearing about India on the front of the news, every single day, how awful the situation is. Here's something I need you to know - the infection rate in India is approximately 200 people per 100,000. In Calgary today, it's 520 people per 100,000. It's twice as bad." He's also anxious that the current vaccination program just won't be able to cope. "While vaccinations are promising, we must remember that we cannot vaccinate ourselves out of this current trend of transmission," he said. "The third wave is much worse than the second wave. Our numbers just keep rising. We expect new variant cases to double every two-and-a-half weeks. The end of the pandemic is near, but we're not there yet."
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Post by fixit on May 3, 2021 14:16:14 GMT -5
In my area, churches were closed, but of course you could go to Walmart and stand in line at the cashiers with hundreds of people in the store. I've personally never stopped getting on with life, but it hasn't been easy with all the paranoid nuts around me. You probably would have called us "paranoid nuts" when we spent a month "in our bubble" treating everyone outside of our bubble as potential Covid-19 carriers. Once we had denied that bad boy a host, he died. Then we were enjoyed "freedom" Dan. A freedom that you've been denied for more than a year. If you'd had Islamist terrorists killing half a million Americans you would have hunted them down and killed them.
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Post by fixit on May 3, 2021 14:26:12 GMT -5
Who cares if we need a booster every 6 or 12 months going forward? If everyone was immunised the virus would die. Vaccinated people are not immune to variants, they remain susceptible to mutating strains of covid.
Let's see how many vaccinated people die of Covd-19 compared with unvaccinated people. Boosters will likely be necessary: India shows why we will all need COVID vaccine booster shots
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