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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 22:34:56 GMT -5
That’s the verses that some people think he lost his deity. ** How can Christ lost his Deity nature? When He is an ETERNAL GOD likes God the Father and Holy Spirit. The verses says he “made himself if no reputation...”. That’s what people use to say he left his deity in heaven. I’m not saying it’s that way but I’ve had people to say it. They just cannot understand how deity can be within a human body. It’s because they don’t understand ”DEITY ”. |
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 7, 2020 22:40:02 GMT -5
So you realise you are saying Jesus is not equal and not one with the Father/God. J esus is NOT equal with God nor ever claimed to be. He is of course one with the Father/God in exactly the same way as he wants you to be.
The Son of God confirms the Deity of Christ. They Crucified him for it. The Jews knew exactly what his claim was. The Son of God confirmed nothing of the kind. There is only one deity and that is the Father (God).
Please take time to listen to : Mr. Ramsden youtu.be/Q1N5Mh42ziA |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 7, 2020 22:40:29 GMT -5
Hearsay. Who cares that you have been preaching it for ten years. It's still hearsay. No proof. *** You atheists and WITCHES will find out soon or later when My God and Savior returns as KING of kings and LORD of Lords on the earth to establish His eternal kingdom with His people/believers. Do you tell your wife and son the same thing nathan ? Its like you get some sick enjoyment out of telling people they will go to hell if they don't believe YOU and the rubbish from Stranges !! |
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Post by Annan on Feb 7, 2020 22:42:03 GMT -5
Hearsay. Who cares that you have been preaching it for ten years. It's still hearsay. No proof. *** You atheists and WITCHES will find out soon or later when My God and Savior returns as KING of kings and LORD of Lords on the earth to establish His eternal kingdom with His people/believers.
The spell below on Nathan please.
I tie your fingers in a knot.
You cannot type or wipe your snot.
You cannot post, no not word.
You cannot see, your eyes are blurred.
For a year... make that a day.
That Nathan cannot work or play.
So mote it be!
Worth a try. You never know.  |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 7, 2020 22:42:58 GMT -5
reborn has God revealed to you yet that Jesus lives in Venus ?
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Post by slowtosee on Feb 7, 2020 23:28:56 GMT -5
*** You atheists and WITCHES will find out soon or later when My God and Savior returns as KING of kings and LORD of Lords on the earth to establish His eternal kingdom with His people/believers.
The spell below on Nathan please.
I tie your fingers in a knot.
You cannot type or wipe your snot.
You cannot post, no not word.
You cannot see, your eyes are blurred.
For a year... make that a day.
That Nathan cannot work or play.
So mote it be!
Worth a try. You never know. What if it backfires ? |
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Post by fixit on Feb 7, 2020 23:38:22 GMT -5
So is the Church of God- as we see here in Acts 20:28. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of god, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Trinitarianism is man-made doctrine. |
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Post by reborn on Feb 7, 2020 23:45:47 GMT -5
So is the Church of God- as we see here in Acts 20:28. Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of god, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Trinitarianism is man-made doctrine. I use the word Godhead, which you do find in the Bible. |
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Post by reborn on Feb 7, 2020 23:49:56 GMT -5
Trinitarianism is man-made doctrine. I use the word Godhead, which you do find in the Bible. You don’t ever find the word convention in the Bible do you? How about special meeting? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 7, 2020 23:49:57 GMT -5
haha.. here are the TWO churches for you and those believe like you will fit in perfectly good as Anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God, the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons. And the 2x2s who also believe that Jesus is not God. The church which you attend! And now you are adding anti-Christ to what your own church teaches on top of blasphemy! Why on earth do you attend the meetings? How can you sit silently in front of your workers when they teach that Jesus is not God, when you are so vocal about it here? Do you tell them they are are anti-christ in their beliefs, or that they are blaspheming? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 0:02:14 GMT -5
You seriously need to stop threatening people with your myth, Nathan, but then threats are par for the course when it comes to christianity. My warnings are NOTHING compare to Jesus threats, he will burn unbelievers with fervent heat and melt their skins from their faces/bodies. You atheists and WITCHES! need to read the Bible to know what is coming to you. Read II Peter 3:9-13. REPENT and TUR to Christ/God Jesus as your Redeemer and Saviorof sins or you will pay for your own sins, which will NOT be acceptable before God the Father. You need to be careful, because Jesus rebuked James and John, and said to them "you don't know what manner of Spirit you are of" when they wanted fire to come from heaven and destroy peoples lives. Jesus then said that he came to save lives not destroy. And those who belong to him should have the same heart and want people saved not destroyed. And we should always have hope for everyone and leave the judgement to God. Remember it says in the Bible that you are judged on how you judge others. The way those who belong to God truly judge, is by his word and by baring witness to the truth and leave God to judge the heart. Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 0:06:39 GMT -5
No they don't mean that he is God, the Jewish leaders were baring false witness against him so they could accuse him of blasphemy because their hearts were full of wickedness and envy. Jesus didn't say that he was God, but the son of God and they used that against him, falsely accusing him of blasphemy to have him put to death. As for him saying he is one with God, he says that he is at one with the father and then he also says that those who belong to him are also one with him and the father, as seen in John 17. And that doesn't make them God because they are at one with Christ and the father does it? It means they are no longer of the world and their minds are on the higher things of God as Jesus's was, and their hearts and minds are at one with Christ Jesus and the father and they are all one through Christ by the power of the Spirit. As for his kingdom not being of this world, he also said that those who belong to him are not of this world either. So that doesn't make him God. John 17:13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 17:16 THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. "No they dont mean he is God",  ? That is the accusation so how could they not mean it?. The Son of God is a claim/announcement of deity. Can you be the Son of God?, if not why not? Because the Son of God is Divine!, He is the manifestation of God in the flesh, He is God!. He is the creator of ALL things!. What I mean is that he clearly said he is the son of God, and they twisted what he said to make out that he was blaspheming, saying he was making himself God to have him murdered. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 0:25:48 GMT -5
haha.. here are the TWO churches for you and those believe like you will fit in perfectly good as Anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God, the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons. And the 2x2s who also believe that Jesus is not God. The church which you attend! And now you are adding anti-Christ to what your own church teaches on top of blasphemy! Why on earth do you attend the meetings? How can you sit silently in front of your workers when they teach that Jesus is not God, when you are so vocal about it here? Do you tell them they are are anti-christ in their beliefs, or that they are blaspheming?
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 0:33:34 GMT -5
I use the word Godhead, which you do find in the Bible. You don’t ever find the word convention in the Bible do you? How about special meeting?
55 minutes ago fixit said:
Trinitarianism is man-made doctrine.
Can you find Wed. night about study, Sunday morning meetings, or gospel meetings, brothers/sisters workers in the Bible? If you can't find these things in the Bible shouldn't you be NOT using these terminologies among the 2x2s. These terminologies the 2x2s workers and friends are using, they stole it from the Faith Mission, you know... They ARE MAN-MADE terminologies! they are NOT in the Bible just like the word Trinity!
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Post by Grant on Feb 8, 2020 0:41:54 GMT -5
And the 2x2s who also believe that Jesus is not God. The church which you attend! And now you are adding anti-Christ to what your own church teaches on top of blasphemy! Why on earth do you attend the meetings? How can you sit silently in front of your workers when they teach that Jesus is not God, when you are so vocal about it here? Do you tell them they are are anti-christ in their beliefs, or that they are blaspheming?
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
By their fruits you will know them. |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 0:52:19 GMT -5
NOT of the 2x2s are anti-Christ or Jesus is NOT God. There are minority of us friends and workers believe in the Trinity and Jesus is Godhead. We are NOT blasphemers, We believe Christ is God like God the Father and Holy Spirit.
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
By their fruits you will know them.
How come the early workers and the friends believed and taught in the TRINITY and doctrine and Jesus is God. BUT, the Current workers and friend are ANTI-Christ Jesus is NOT God? We read the overseers have EXCOMMUNICATED the workers who taught the Trinity and believe Jesus is God.
Many of the friends have LEFT the fellowship once they saw what the current workers and friends who are anti-Christ and Jesus is God= False teachers! apostles. Many of us/2x2 hang in there to show the world it wasn't like this in the beginning with MOST of the early workers at all, they believed and taught in the Trinity and Jesus is God.... there are some workers and the friends still believe in the Trinity and worship the Trinity= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit.
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Post by Grant on Feb 8, 2020 0:57:07 GMT -5
I was referring to your attitude Nathan to those in your church who do not believe in the Trinity, dismissing what they say as garbage in, garbage out. No respect for anyone who does not believe the same as you. Wonder how you get on in Sunday morning meeting with that attitude.
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 0:59:31 GMT -5
And the 2x2s who also believe that Jesus is not God. The church which you attend! And now you are adding anti-Christ to what your own church teaches on top of blasphemy! Why on earth do you attend the meetings? How can you sit silently in front of your workers when they teach that Jesus is not God, when you are so vocal about it here? Do you tell them they are are anti-christ in their beliefs, or that they are blaspheming?
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad that is? |
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Post by fixit on Feb 8, 2020 1:02:18 GMT -5
NOT of the 2x2s are anti-Christ or Jesus is NOT God. There are minority of us friends and workers believe in the Trinity and Jesus is Godhead. We are NOT blasphemers, We believe Christ is God like God the Father and Holy Spirit.
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
By their fruits you will know them. Exactly. A doctrine that generates hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, dissension and division is not of God. Have you ever heard of non-trinitarians burning their fellow Christians at the stake? |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:04:36 GMT -5
NOT of the 2x2s are anti-Christ or Jesus is NOT God. There are minority of us friends and workers believe in the Trinity and Jesus is Godhead. We are NOT blasphemers, We believe Christ is God like God the Father and Holy Spirit.
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
By their fruits you will know them. Their fruits isn't whether they believe in the trinity or not. Jesus nor Paul ever mentioned that at as a fruit of the Spirit, the fruit of the Spirit can be seen in the lives of those who truly follow Jesus. Those who live by the gospel and not only speak it. Many have flattering lips but their hearts are far from Christ Jesus. |
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Post by fixit on Feb 8, 2020 1:05:47 GMT -5
By their fruits you will know them.
How come the early workers and the friends believed and taught in the TRINITY and doctrine and Jesus is God. BUT, the Current workers and friend are ANTI-Christ Jesus is NOT God? We read the overseers have EXCOMMUNICATED the workers who taught the Trinity and believe Jesus is God.
Many of the friends have LEFT the fellowship once they saw what the current workers and friends who are anti-Christ and Jesus is God= False teachers! apostles. Many of us/2x2 hang in there to show the world it wasn't like this in the beginning with MOST of the early workers at all, they believed and taught in the Trinity and Jesus is God.... there are some workers and the friends still believe in the Trinity and worship the Trinity= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit.
Can I respectfully suggest you go and pray about this Nathan? Your anger and hostility will end badly for you. |
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:06:05 GMT -5
I was referring to your attitude to those in your church who do not believe in the Trinity, dismissing what they say as garbage in, garbage out. No respect for anyone who does not believe the same as you. Wonder how you get on in Sunday morning meeting with that attitude. Sorry, I misunderstood you also |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:12:35 GMT -5
NOT of the 2x2s are anti-Christ or Jesus is NOT God. There are minority of us friends and workers believe in the Trinity and Jesus is Godhead. We are NOT blasphemers, We believe Christ is God like God the Father and Holy Spirit.
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad had is?
The younger generation of friends and workers will DROP these false anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God like EBOLA Virus and it will be forgotten as the worse teaching that these overseers and senior workers had taught the friends the last 75 years, as false teachers!
One of these days, I might walk out of their gospel meetings or convention while the workers are speaking! a sign of my protest to them for believing/teaching the friends, Jesus is NOT God or the Trinity is heresy and devils doctrine.
I wish the friends who believe in the Trinity and Jesus God would walk out of gospel meetings when they hear the workers preach Jesus is NOT God and the Trinity is heresy and the devils doctrine!
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:17:13 GMT -5
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad had is?
The younger generation of friends and workers will DROP these false anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God like EBOLA Virus and it will be forgotten as the worse teaching that these overseers and senior workers had taught the friends the last 75 years, as false teachers!
One of these days, I might walk out of their gospel meetings or convention while they are speaking!
Maybe instead of walking out you should speak up! I know that if I believed so fervently as you do, I couldn't sit there and hold my peace if I thought what they were saying was antichrist and blasphemy. Do you realise how bad that is? That is hypocritical! Although, I agree with them, they are speaking the truth! |
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 8, 2020 1:18:15 GMT -5
NOT of the 2x2s are anti-Christ or Jesus is NOT God. There are minority of us friends and workers believe in the Trinity and Jesus is Godhead. We are NOT blasphemers, We believe Christ is God like God the Father and Holy Spirit.
I tell the 2x2s on here who don't believe in Christ is God are Anti-Christ and blasphemers just like the Pharisees and unbelieving Jews who said Jesus is NOT God but a man.
When the workers and the 2x2s friends on here, teach and preach Jesus is NOT God I just toss what they said in the garbage pile! Garbage in garbage out.
Exactly you are a minority within your church! And why just say it here, why not say it to the workers and the friends and elders that you have fellowship with in your everyday life and at conventions? Nathan, do you sit though conventions and meetings etc. when they are preaching that Jesus isn't God, whilst the whole time you think what they are saying is antichrist and blasphemy? Do you realise how bad that is? he won't say anything to the Workers or friends about his belief because he knows what the response will be. He talks as if he knows all about what the early Workers taught but in reality he is a "newcomer". |
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:18:47 GMT -5
RIGHT! the numbers of the friends and workers are WAY low, these days!
How come the early workers and the friends believed and taught in the TRINITY and doctrine and Jesus is God. BUT, the Current workers and friend are ANTI-Christ Jesus is NOT God? We read the overseers have EXCOMMUNICATED the workers who taught the Trinity and believe Jesus is God.
Many of the friends have LEFT the fellowship once they saw what the current workers and friends who are anti-Christ and Jesus is God= False teachers! apostles. Many of us/2x2 hang in there to show the world it wasn't like this in the beginning with MOST of the early workers at all, they believed and taught in the Trinity and Jesus is God.... there are some workers and the friends still believe in the Trinity and worship the Trinity= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit.
Can I respectfully suggest you go and pray about this Nathan? Your anger and hostility will end badly for you.
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Post by nathan on Feb 8, 2020 1:21:21 GMT -5
We/2x2 Trinity believers are in the Minority right now! but number is growing every day.... ONCE the friends and workers in this generation see the MISTAKES that the older generation of overseers and senior workers have erred in their thinking and belief....
The younger generation of friends and workers will DROP these false anti-Christ and Jesus is NOT God like EBOLA Virus and it will be forgotten as the worse teaching that these overseers and senior workers had taught the friends the last 75 years, as false teachers!
One of these days, I might walk out of their gospel meetings or convention while they are speaking!
Maybe instead of walking out you should speak up! I know that if I believed so fervently as you do, I couldn't sit there and hold my peace if I thought what they were saying was antichrist and blasphemy. Do you realise how bad that is? That is hypocritical! Although, I agree with them, they are speaking the truth!
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Post by maryhig on Feb 8, 2020 1:21:40 GMT -5
And this is why we shouldn't judge others.
I'm not a member of the 2x2 church but I agree with what they teach regarding Jesus not being God. Yet one of their own believe what they are teaching is blasphemy and antichrist. Yet I would be judged by some in the church as unsaved and an outsider.
We should never judge others, as we don't know the depths of their hearts. Only God can judge, we are to speak the word of God and leave judgement to him and have hope for everyone.
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? That is the accusation so how could they not mean it?. 
