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Post by matisse on Mar 3, 2020 5:13:23 GMT -5
We have to ask Wally how to rightly decide/divide what to take from the OT. It varies from situation to situation. generally it gets repeated in the NT...then there is revelation which will tell you most of the moral law is observed(not all) and none of the ceremonial law is observed.... Blood sacrifice lives on in the ceremony of the "Emblems".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 5:38:19 GMT -5
generally it gets repeated in the NT...then there is revelation which will tell you most of the moral law is observed(not all) and none of the ceremonial law is observed.... Blood sacrifice lives on in the ceremony of the "Emblems". while true its a little misleading, we don't actually kill animals anymore to reserve a temporary place in paradise to wait for the coming King(Christ)....
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Post by matisse on Mar 3, 2020 8:16:53 GMT -5
Blood sacrifice lives on in the ceremony of the "Emblems". while true its a little misleading, we don't actually kill animals anymore to reserve a temporary place in paradise to wait for the coming King(Christ).... Your belief system is centered around a requirement by its god that blood be shed. When I was going to meetings, bloodshed was talked about every Sunday and was celebrated through the Emblems. It is a central tenet of faith, regardless of when the last actual bloodshed was required.
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Post by Lee on Mar 3, 2020 13:55:27 GMT -5
The blood sacrifice of Christ is the central motif of Christianity. This is not to say that Jesus committed suicide for us. It is to say we killed him, because his righteousness shamed our unrighteousness. It is also to say that God ordained this to happen.
The theology crowns the blood sacrifice of every committed sin, expressed prototypically in the blood of Abel. The basis of the language of christian sacrifice proceeds from experiential reality:
Injury and death follow sin.
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 3, 2020 17:11:31 GMT -5
The blood sacrifice of Christ is the central motif of Christianity. This is not to say that Jesus committed suicide for us. It is to say we killed him, because his righteousness shamed our unrighteousness. It is also to say that God ordained this to happen. The theology crowns the blood sacrifice of every committed sin, expressed prototypically in the blood of Abel. The basis of the language of christian sacrifice proceeds from experiential reality: Injury and death follow sin. Maybe, and sorry to state the obvious, Jesus was killed by the Romans on the grounds that Jesus called himself the king of the Jews (Mark 15:26, John 19:19). Everything else is just great imagination. Sin.. imagination. We killed Jesus “because his righteousness shamed our unrighteousness”.. imagination.
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Post by snow on Mar 3, 2020 19:44:29 GMT -5
hes the one that inspired the OT and the NT...if he brought over some of the OT law but not all of it...so be it....its his universe not mine or yours....thank God.. I was under the impression that Christians take the bible as a whole.. I guess you don’t relate to the more conservative and evangelical Christians who seek out literal and historical truths.. and what the bible affirms about these matters is to be taken as factually accurate. So you are indeed a cherry picker.. Well would you if it said you can't eat bacon and shrimp!
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Post by snow on Mar 3, 2020 19:48:31 GMT -5
Blood sacrifice lives on in the ceremony of the "Emblems". while true its a little misleading, we don't actually kill animals anymore to reserve a temporary place in paradise to wait for the coming King(Christ).... Basically the emblems are the blood and flesh of Christ symbolically speaking so every Christian symbolically crucifies Jesus by that ritual. The RCC take it a step further and believe that wine and a wafer has once again been transformed into the blood and flesh of Jesus.
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 3, 2020 19:49:00 GMT -5
I was under the impression that Christians take the bible as a whole.. I guess you don’t relate to the more conservative and evangelical Christians who seek out literal and historical truths.. and what the bible affirms about these matters is to be taken as factually accurate. So you are indeed a cherry picker.. Well would you if it said you can't eat bacon and shrimp! You bet I would!
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Post by Lee on Mar 4, 2020 8:02:36 GMT -5
The blood sacrifice of Christ is the central motif of Christianity. This is not to say that Jesus committed suicide for us. It is to say we killed him, because his righteousness shamed our unrighteousness. It is also to say that God ordained this to happen. The theology crowns the blood sacrifice of every committed sin, expressed prototypically in the blood of Abel. The basis of the language of christian sacrifice proceeds from experiential reality: Injury and death follow sin. Maybe, and sorry to state the obvious, Jesus was killed by the Romans on the grounds that Jesus called himself the king of the Jews (Mark 15:26, John 19:19). Everything else is just great imagination. Sin.. imagination. We killed Jesus “because his righteousness shamed our unrighteousness”.. imagination. Your imagination is reductive.
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