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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 23:12:24 GMT -5
sorry rational you haven't been paying attention very well...almost the first thing out of anyones mouth when a youtube vid is presented as evidencce is "youtube is not a credible source"... No @wally , it is you that has not been paying attention. I am probably the person who speaks out most frequently regarding youtube videos. It is not the platform that is delivering the video that is the problem it is the source of the video that is questionable. And, of course, the lack of supporting data. Here is a photo from the Red Sea: One might wonder why a horse drawn chariot wheel would need a counterweight. But then the answer can be seen on another of Ron's photos: It looks like one of pharaoh's steam powered chariots. But then there is this: Ron Wyatt, the discover, said the bottom of the Red Sea looked like a junk yard of antiques from from 3500 years ago. And all discoveries were authenticated by Nassif Mohammed Hassan, Director of Antiquities in Cairo, who said the findings were definitely 18th century antiquities.Discovery News I guess I could buy the idea that they are 18th century antiquities (doesn't the attention to details make this seem even more possible???). If one believes the bible there is the question of the 2.5 - 3.0 million people who crossed the same sea with their cattle and supplies. Oddly enough none of the debris that was surly shed by the millions was not found. Only Egyptian wheels. And the odd steam engine. your not fooling anyone...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 23:25:23 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 23:35:04 GMT -5
your not fooling anyone... I am not trying to. Apparently Ron Wyatt is more successful...
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 21, 2020 23:36:06 GMT -5
No @wally , it is you that has not been paying attention. I am probably the person who speaks out most frequently regarding youtube videos. It is not the platform that is delivering the video that is the problem it is the source of the video that is questionable. And, of course, the lack of supporting data. Here is a photo from the Red Sea: One might wonder why a horse drawn chariot wheel would need a counterweight. But then the answer can be seen on another of Ron's photos: It looks like one of pharaoh's steam powered chariots. But then there is this: Ron Wyatt, the discover, said the bottom of the Red Sea looked like a junk yard of antiques from from 3500 years ago. And all discoveries were authenticated by Nassif Mohammed Hassan, Director of Antiquities in Cairo, who said the findings were definitely 18th century antiquities.Discovery News I guess I could buy the idea that they are 18th century antiquities (doesn't the attention to details make this seem even more possible???). If one believes the bible there is the question of the 2.5 - 3.0 million people who crossed the same sea with their cattle and supplies. Oddly enough none of the debris that was surly shed by the millions was not found. Only Egyptian wheels. And the odd steam engine. your not fooling anyone... ...about fooling someone...
Here's some a bit to think about, WallyRonald Eldon Wyatt (2 June 1933 â August 4, 1999) was an adventurer noted for advocating the DurupÄąnar site as the site of Noah's Ark, along with almost 100 other Bible-related discoveries.
He has been criticized by scientists, historians, biblical scholars, as well as some creationists. from wiki
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 23:46:58 GMT -5
This illustrates the phrase "There's a sucker born every minute", associated with P. T. Barnum. I believe, if the quote is his, that he vastly underestimated the stated birth rate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 0:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 22, 2020 0:40:57 GMT -5
I did not look at rational's while not logged in. And when logged in to post, I didn't take a look at his hidden posts either. But I did expect that the chief demolition 'ex spert' on this board would eventually show up on this thread trying to destroy any faith that 2x2/visitors have left after 2x2ism and its destruction of faith in God's word. But I did read Wally's post, so see that at least one of his was trying to destroy my faith in God's word - while I know that the "Jerusalem Association" still wears the veil that God placed over their eyes until the time of the gentiles is finished. Add to that Biblical knowledge of the blinded views of the Jerusalem Association the fact that I see pictures of Ron Wyatt doing excavation work in Israel -in a time when CGI movie making was not yet even dreamed of. What I want to post this time is in reference to what I posted long ago on this thread, i.e., while none of my posts on this thread present any salvation issue of any kind, the posts of videos are intended to help any 2x2/visitors with weak faith to see the solid platform of faith in God's word that is right in front of them and ready to lift them up to strong faith in God's word. And of course, one more time â NONE of my posts on this thread were posted for the eyes of the TMB demolition team, but are posted for the eyes of 2x2/visitors alone. Now I smile ear to ear as I watch HOW HARD the TMB demolition team is working to destroy that uplift of faith â which faith they obviously do not possess even the size of a speck of dust. And most of them pretend to love others â ho hum, their evidence on here tells the very opposite tale. And that is in addition to what God said thousands of years ago regarding those who say in their hearts 'there is no god.' I suppose I should be hoping that they will turn to God, but I am just a weak human being who gave up on helping them quite a while ago, trusting God to have mercy on those He might choose from among them. (Final comp. "43 minutes ago") You know, Gratu, I used to think they worked so hard to debunk believers point of view to win prozolytes. But now itâs come to me theyâre working so hard to continue convincing themselves that the Bible is a myth.
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Post by nathan on Jan 22, 2020 0:48:37 GMT -5
Ron Wyatt found Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels buried at the bottom of the Red Sea/Gulf Aqaba.
Here is the second Witness.... Dr. David Kim/Korean and his team went to the same place and took their own pictures that Ron W. had taken pictures of the Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels at the bottom of the gulf Aqaba/Red Sea.
Published on Jul 6, 2013
David Gates interviews Dr. David Kim, who made 12 trips behind military fences in Saudi Arabia and climbed Mt. Sinai to collect evidence of a Red Sea crossing. Amazing photos and artifacts. A Korean physician, Dr. Kim was the personal physician for the Prince of Saudi Arabia for 16 years. During this time Dr. Kim made his repeated trips down into Midian to search for traces of the Exodus and Mount Sinai which he had heard about from materials published by Ron Wyatt. Because he was fluent in Arabic and had a personal recommendation from the Prince, with the help of local Bedoins, Dr. Kim was able to get behind the fences protected by the military. He climbed Mt. Sinai and discovered many Hebrew petroglyphs previously unknown by the public. He took thousands of pictures and collected artifacts. Here is his outstanding testimony and photographs which confirm the location of the Red Sea crossing during the Exodus. Many evidences are shown the children of Israel journey in the desert for 40 yrs... MANY artifacts found in the desert.... The BIG Rock, where Moses strike twice, God had told to strike ONLY once for the water to come out, but because of his disobedience God did NOT allow Moses to enter the promised land.
Watch at 16-18 minutes of the Video.... where Dr. David Kim team took pictures at the same location as Ron Wyatt did, the gold wheels chariots and so on... Here are his team pictures... They got the location from Ron Wyatt and they took their own pictures! At 40:00 minutes Dr. Kim has confirmed Ron Wyatt findings of Pharaoh's army gold wheels Chariots at the gulf of Aqaba were NOT a hoax! or a fairy tale but historical facts. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubKUip6pz0
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 22, 2020 1:00:52 GMT -5
I did not look at rational's while not logged in. And when logged in to post, I didn't take a look at his hidden posts either. But I did expect that the chief demolition 'ex spert' on this board would eventually show up on this thread trying to destroy any faith that 2x2/visitors have left after 2x2ism and its destruction of faith in God's word. But I did read Wally's post, so see that at least one of his was trying to destroy my faith in God's word - while I know that the "Jerusalem Association" still wears the veil that God placed over their eyes until the time of the gentiles is finished. Add to that Biblical knowledge of the blinded views of the Jerusalem Association the fact that I see pictures of Ron Wyatt doing excavation work in Israel -in a time when CGI movie making was not yet even dreamed of. What I want to post this time is in reference to what I posted long ago on this thread, i.e., while none of my posts on this thread present any salvation issue of any kind, the posts of videos are intended to help any 2x2/visitors with weak faith to see the solid platform of faith in God's word that is right in front of them and ready to lift them up to strong faith in God's word. And of course, one more time â NONE of my posts on this thread were posted for the eyes of the TMB demolition team, but are posted for the eyes of 2x2/visitors alone. Now I smile ear to ear as I watch HOW HARD the TMB demolition team is working to destroy that uplift of faith â which faith they obviously do not possess even the size of a speck of dust. And most of them pretend to love others â ho hum, their evidence on here tells the very opposite tale. And that is in addition to what God said thousands of years ago regarding those who say in their hearts 'there is no god.' I suppose I should be hoping that they will turn to God, but I am just a weak human being who gave up on helping them quite a while ago, trusting God to have mercy on those He might choose from among them. (Final comp. "43 minutes ago") You know, Gratu, I used to think they worked so hard to debunk believers point of view to win prozolytes. But now itâs come to me theyâre working so hard to continue convincing themselves that the Bible is a myth. Actually, STR, -speaking for myself, -I am well aware that some of you, like yourself and gratu, will never be convinced of what we have learned. I am not really trying to convince those of you who are in that category.
But our posts are being listened to by many others and I hope I can be of help to them just as many others helped me to "disentangle" myself from the web of beliefs that had held me captive so for so many years
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:19:21 GMT -5
You really do begin to wonder what is the point of posting this. No non believer is ever going to be convinced by this as no unbeliever is that gullible. And sincere believers presumably already have enough faith that they donât require any evidence that the bible is true. Many believers are prepared to believe that stories in the bible are literally true without any evidence whatsoever, no matter how preposterous the story. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths to which believers, who maintain that they donât require any evidence, will go to to try to provide actual evidence to support their belief that the bible is true. And despite consistently failing to do so, they continue to do so only to fail, fail and fail again. The only people who could possibly be persuaded by this are people whose faith is weak and desperately wish to have it increased. And of course videos like this are designed to prey upon such vulnerable people. I watched the first five minutes of this and it provided no hard evidence (or indeed any other sort of evidence) whatsoever to support the biblical story. Instead what I got was that familiar emotive music which religious videos often rely on to draw vulnerable people in accompanied by the inevitable equally persuasive speaker. Itâs all part of a carefully crafted religious con. So people of weak faith should beware. I had to go some way into the video (admittedly making generous use of the fast forward button) before I found something that resembled a claim relating to evidence. This appeared to amount to someone saying that theyâd found traces of metal on coral before making a huge leap and suggesting that this might have been bronze from the wheel of an Egyptian chariot from several thousand years ago with the insinuation that this is evidence that the bible is true. Itâs so ridiculous itâs hardly needs pointing out. I then jumped forward a little further to about and hour and 9 minutes in where it makes reference to a diver having photographed this circular object attached to what APPEARS to be a broken axle or hub and claims that this discovery is important for two reasons (1) it documented the coral encrusted FORM of a wheel (but not an actual wheel) with dimensions similar to ancient Egyptians artefacts across from the site and (2) it provided independent confirmation of earlier evidence of wheel LIKE formations on both sides of the Red Sea (but no actual wheels) in accordance with the descriptions  in the biblical record. Remarkably (but conveniently) it then avoids saying anything more about what this earlier evidence is. Presumably the believer is just supposed to blindly accept this. Given that they canât even verify that it actually is a broken axle or hub but merely APPEARS to be a broken axle or hub but yet go on to insinuate that this is in some way evidence to support the bible being true is just as ridiculous as the claim referred to in my previous paragraph. And then two minutes later it states that in the waters of Aqaba it APPEARS that remnants of 4 and 6 spoke wheels have been discovered which are of a design supposedly no later that about 1400 BC which (again conveniently) coincides with the timeframe for the biblical story. This leaves one wondering were remnants of such wheels actually found and if so where are they? The video certainly doesnât go on to explain this but jumps instead straight into another story. So what happened to these wheels if they really were found? It seems the site truthorfiction.com provides the answer below. I guess people will make up their own minds on the credibility of these claims. Meanwhile I suspect that most people will find the claims made in the video ridiculous. Matt10 â Much of this eRumor (that chariot wheels have been found) is based on the findings of Ron Wyatt, a colorful and controversial amateur archeologist who claimed to have found Noahâs ark, the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, the location of Sodom And Gomorrah, the Tower of Babel, the true site of Mt. Sinai, the true site of the crucifixion of Jesus, and the original stones of the Ten Commandments. He was a passionate and sincere man, according to his supporters, but his critics abound and scientists and archeologists regarded him as an untrained maverick at best and there are some who regarded his as a fraud.....
It was while diving along the beach at Nuweiba that he found what he said were chariot parts. .... It was on that same trip in 1978 that Wyatt found what he said were the remains of chariots and chariot wheels at the bottom of the sea. They were heavily covered with coral. Wyatt claimed to have retrieved one of the wheels and said an Egyptian authority declared that it was from the 18th dynasty of Ancient Egypt, but nobody seems to know where that chariot wheel is now located.
Wyattâs focus on Nuweiba and his claims of finding chariot remains on the floor of the sea have brought other adventurers to the site but even Wyattâs supporters urge caution about their enthusiastic findings. Richard Rives, the president of Wyatt Archeological Research in Tennessee, told journalist Joe Kovacs, âAll kinds of people are finding coral and calling it chariot parts.â Wyattâs wife, Mary Nell, told Kovacs the same. She went diving with Wyatt at the Red Sea site and said that at first she thought everything was a chariot wheel.âThanks @matt10.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:28:56 GMT -5
I did not look at rational's while not logged in. And when logged in to post, I didn't take a look at his hidden posts either. But I did expect that the chief demolition 'ex spert' on this board would eventually show up on this thread trying to destroy any faith that 2x2/visitors have left after 2x2ism and its destruction of faith in God's word. But I did read Wally's post, so see that at least one of his was trying to destroy my faith in God's word - while I know that the "Jerusalem Association" still wears the veil that God placed over their eyes until the time of the gentiles is finished. Add to that Biblical knowledge of the blinded views of the Jerusalem Association the fact that I see pictures of Ron Wyatt doing excavation work in Israel -in a time when CGI movie making was not yet even dreamed of. What I want to post this time is in reference to what I posted long ago on this thread, i.e., while none of my posts on this thread present any salvation issue of any kind, the posts of videos are intended to help any 2x2/visitors with weak faith to see the solid platform of faith in God's word that is right in front of them and ready to lift them up to strong faith in God's word. And of course, one more time â NONE of my posts on this thread were posted for the eyes of the TMB demolition team, but are posted for the eyes of 2x2/visitors alone. Now I smile ear to ear as I watch HOW HARD the TMB demolition team is working to destroy that uplift of faith â which faith they obviously do not possess even the size of a speck of dust. And most of them pretend to love others â ho hum, their evidence on here tells the very opposite tale. And that is in addition to what God said thousands of years ago regarding those who say in their hearts 'there is no god.' I suppose I should be hoping that they will turn to God, but I am just a weak human being who gave up on helping them quite a while ago, trusting God to have mercy on those He might choose from among them. (Final comp. "a few seconds ago") It doesn't take too much research to see that Ron Wyatt is just another of many who try to con people for their own gain. But of course @gratu doesnt want to do too much digging because he could never admit that maybe it is a con that has been debunked years ago, or that he has been conned !!! Not sure why he thinks any 2x2s would believe someone from another church....! Why don't you start your own board @gratu?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:32:54 GMT -5
âYou know, Gratu, I used to think they worked so hard to debunk believers point of view to win prozolytes. But now itâs come to me theyâre working so hard to continue convincing themselves that the Bible is a myth.â I am leaning heavily to that same probability sharingtheriches. When they have been repeatedly told that my posts are not posted for their eyes, it never takes long for em take upon themselves any implications by their own choice. And it never seems to end such that it never ceases to give me ear to ear smiles as they DEMONSTRATE their wears for 2x2/visitors without any help to expose them from any believers on this board. And I didn't offer them a dime in pay for doing such a fine job of exposing themselves for me. If you don't want everyone on TMB to read your posts and comment, start you own board @gratu !! I would say most 2x2s are smart enough to do their own research with things like this anyway.....!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:35:59 GMT -5
"...who try to con people for their own gain..." Look who's talking - but you ain't gaining nothing, rather are losing credibility in your show of failure to watch a video that states the very opposite of Ron Wyatt posted above. Seriously @gratu...just because you just discovered Ron Wyatt doesn't mean others didn't see all his rubbish years ago. From memory it has already been discussed here on TMB in the past and debunked !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:38:50 GMT -5
"...who try to con people for their own gain..." Look who's talking - but you ain't gaining nothing, rather are losing credibility in your show of failure to watch a video that states the very opposite of Ron Wyatt posted above, not to mention Ron's obvious humility seen in his own videos posted on here. So I'm sure that any 2x2/visitors who read your stuff already know your posts are not worth even this reply. Thats the difference between us @gratu, I really couldn't care less what others think about what I post !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:41:39 GMT -5
If you don't want everyone on TMB to read your posts and comment, start you own board @gratu !! I would say most 2x2s are smart enough to do their own research with things like this anyway.....!! Na - this one is just right for me, but it seems it is portraying you in a sad light. And you could apply your own solution for self-preservation??? Sorry @gratu but it is you not me who keeps whining about your posts being for particular people so I was offering a solution !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:44:59 GMT -5
If you don't want everyone on TMB to read your posts and comment, start you own board @gratu !! I would say most 2x2s are smart enough to do their own research with things like this anyway.....!! Na - this one is just right for me, but it seems it is portraying you in a sad light. And you could apply your own solution for self-preservation??? Oh, and who says that I just discovered Ron Wyatt -- you quite apparently. Well if you discovered him before that should have given you plenty of time to research him and realise he is just another conman trying to make a name for himself @gratu !!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:47:38 GMT -5
đđđđ Careful @gratu all those visiting 2x2s that you post for will see these insightful comments of yours !
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 1:49:48 GMT -5
no one will believe it cause it comes from youtube...i however have seen the vids and articles and find them quite credible..... YouTube is not the issue here. Ron Wyatt, and more importantly, his data. Imagine finding a wheel from the exodus of the Jews from Egypt and then misplacing it before anyone could verify it. And claiming it had been examined by experts and then having the people mentioned deny Ron's story. Imagine a person who claimed to fine the ark of the covenant covered with the blood of Jesus and then only getting a very blurry photo and losing the sample of the blood. What a run of bad luck. Thanks rational.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 2:00:02 GMT -5
Given that your previous video has been proven to be a farcical attempt to pass off a pierce of metal found at the bottom of the Red Sea as evidence of the existence of 3 thousand year old Egyptian chariot one does wonder what persuades you that anyone will believe that this latest video isnât equally farcical and take the time to watch it? It seems that there no limit to how far the believer will go to try to demonstrate that the bible is true with each subsequent attempt becoming even more desperate. Like a gambler on a long losing streak the believer keeps putting forward new âevidenceâ believing that this time heâll back a winner but each time he doesnât oblivious to the fact that the machine is rigged and he canât possibly win ever. When youâre reduced to claiming that a piece of coral at the bottom of the Red Sea is in the shape of a 3 thousand year old Egyptian chariot wheel and consequently this proves that the bible is true you should know the game is up. The reason all these attempts to prove that the bible is true fail spectacularly is because it isnât. Itâs no different to the believerâs continual attempts to prove that the Christian God exists when he doesnât. Or the attempts to prove that Jesus ascended up to heaven and is coming back soon when he clearly isnât. Matt10
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 2:13:44 GMT -5
Pardon me as I don't think your post worth a reply after seeing those pictures of chariot wheels. But I'm sure another of the TMB demolition crew just chose to bite the dust in front of any 2x2/visitors, so thanks on their behalf. Oh so because there are "pictures of chariots wheels" that proves they must be from the Egyptian Chariots, therefore that is "hard eviedence" ....seriously @gratu have you ever heard of photoshop !!!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 2:14:30 GMT -5
Awwwwwww I nowwww - just take a few seconds of break on here right now and just look at all that scum flowing over the edge where it can dry up and blow away in the wind - it might be better if leave poor rational to expose just himself rather than do it for him along with self. đđ
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 2:43:30 GMT -5
Oh so because there are "pictures of chariots wheels" that proves they must be from the Egyptian Chariots, therefore that is "hard eviedence" ....seriously @gratu have you ever heard of photoshop !!! Do your brains fall out every time your mouth opens? - or just every so often? Photoshop -- in Ron Wyatt's time? Maybe those chariot wheels are off early 20-century Egyptian or Arabian war machines - or perhaps even American go-carts??? thecompassmagazine.com/uncategorized/the-adventist-indiana-jones-hoax-or-hope-part-2"As for the wheels themselves, Wyatt claims they were preserved in coral formations that grew around the wooden axles. None of the photos I saw demonstrated chariot wheels or axles unless you squinted at it just right and certainly nothing clear enough to determine the original size or shape of the vehicle, let alone the number of spokes. The one clear âwheelâ photograph is of a gold, four-spoked wheel that was again, too fragile to remove. While four-spoked wheels were used by EgyptianâŚ" When do you think Wyatt "thought he found" chariots wheels @gratu ? Goodness I didn't realize you couldn't photoshop in 2014 !!
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Post by nathan on Jan 22, 2020 2:45:10 GMT -5
Ron Wyatt found Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels buried at the bottom of the Red Sea/Gulf Aqaba.
Here is the second Witness.... Dr. David Kim/Korean and his team went to the same place and took their own pictures that Ron W. had taken pictures of the Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels at the bottom of the gulf Aqaba/Red Sea.
Published on Jul 6, 2013
David Gates interviews Dr. David Kim, who made 12 trips behind military fences in Saudi Arabia and climbed Mt. Sinai to collect evidence of a Red Sea crossing. Amazing photos and artifacts. A Korean physician, Dr. Kim was the personal physician for the Prince of Saudi Arabia for 16 years. During this time Dr. Kim made his repeated trips down into Midian to search for traces of the Exodus and Mount Sinai which he had heard about from materials published by Ron Wyatt. Because he was fluent in Arabic and had a personal recommendation from the Prince, with the help of local Bedoins, Dr. Kim was able to get behind the fences protected by the military. He climbed Mt. Sinai and discovered many Hebrew petroglyphs previously unknown by the public. He took thousands of pictures and collected artifacts. Here is his outstanding testimony and photographs which confirm the location of the Red Sea crossing during the Exodus. Many evidences are shown the children of Israel journey in the desert for 40 yrs... MANY artifacts found in the desert.... The BIG Rock, where Moses strike twice, God had told to strike ONLY once for the water to come out, but because of his disobedience God did NOT allow Moses to enter the promised land.
Watch at 16-18 minutes of the Video.... where Dr. David Kim team took pictures at the same location as Ron Wyatt did, the gold wheels chariots and so on... Here are his team pictures... They got the location from Ron Wyatt and they took their own pictures! At 40:00 minutes Dr. Kim has confirmed Ron Wyatt findings of Pharaoh's army gold wheels Chariots at the gulf of Aqaba were NOT a hoax! or a fairy tale but historical facts. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubKUip6pz0
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 2:50:52 GMT -5
Do your brains fall out every time your mouth opens? - or just every so often? Photoshop -- in Ron Wyatt's time? Maybe those chariot wheels are off early 20-century Egyptian or Arabian war machines - or perhaps even American go-carts??? thecompassmagazine.com/uncategorized/the-adventist-indiana-jones-hoax-or-hope-part-2"As for the wheels themselves, Wyatt claims they were preserved in coral formations that grew around the wooden axles. None of the photos I saw demonstrated chariot wheels or axles unless you squinted at it just right and certainly nothing clear enough to determine the original size or shape of the vehicle, let alone the number of spokes. The one clear âwheelâ photograph is of a gold, four-spoked wheel that was again, too fragile to remove. While four-spoked wheels were used by EgyptianâŚ" When do you think Wyatt "thought he found" chariots wheels @gratu ? Goodness I didn't realize you couldn't photoshop in 2014 !! 1988...photoshop didn't appear until 1990....
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 2:56:11 GMT -5
thecompassmagazine.com/uncategorized/the-adventist-indiana-jones-hoax-or-hope-part-2"As for the wheels themselves, Wyatt claims they were preserved in coral formations that grew around the wooden axles. None of the photos I saw demonstrated chariot wheels or axles unless you squinted at it just right and certainly nothing clear enough to determine the original size or shape of the vehicle, let alone the number of spokes. The one clear âwheelâ photograph is of a gold, four-spoked wheel that was again, too fragile to remove. While four-spoked wheels were used by EgyptianâŚ" When do you think Wyatt "thought he found" chariots wheels @gratu ? Goodness I didn't realize you couldn't photoshop in 2014 !! 1988...photoshop didn't appear until 1990.... Oh.. so the photos on You Tube were taken in 1988 were they @wally?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 2:57:23 GMT -5
"Goodness I didn't realize you couldn't photoshop in 2014 !!" Ron Wyatt died in 1999 and he is in those pictures - made in 2014??? Ho hum, I guess your brains do fall out every time you open your mouth. A bit desperate of you I'd guess. Mmmm so exactly where is Ron Wyatt in the pictures of the "chariot wheels" @gratu
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 22, 2020 3:23:31 GMT -5
"Oh.. so the photos on You Tube were taken in 1988 were they wally?" Ron Wyatt was in some of the underwater movies, and I doubt that his death came on suddenly in 1999, and with all the money he spent doing his research I doubt he was still diving in 1990+ - that leaves just two years between your 1988 and that use of Photoshop to produce faked movies when Photoshop cannot produce fake movies YET in 2020. The more you open your mouth the more you show either lost brains on the floor or desperation to 'win' a USELESS argument come hell or high water - that greatest skill of well practiced 2x2s. Are you sure you ever left 2x2ism "T"? Which underwater movie is Ron Wyatt in @gratu ?
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Post by mountain on Jan 22, 2020 3:35:06 GMT -5
Due to what I believe in, I would love to accept what Grats has produced and the resulting claims to be actual fact. In reality though, they are at best 'circumstantial evidence,' i.e. they are not proof in themself, but must rely on other facts and circumstances, which, when considered together and support one another, point to the only reasonable conclusion before the truth of the matter can be established. On their own they may be something of significance, or they may be nothing. Don't discount them, but there again don't rely on them in themself as being proof enough to establish anything other than their presence.
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