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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 18:26:09 GMT -5
no one will believe it cause it comes from youtube...i however have seen the vids and articles and find them quite credible.....
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 19, 2020 20:47:34 GMT -5
Very interesting! Thank you!
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Post by snow on Jan 20, 2020 19:57:48 GMT -5
It is doubtful that a few bits of chariot found in the Red Sea would be sufficient archaeological evidence that Pharaoh’s army chased tens of thousands of people across it. In any case there was no need to, Sinai and Canaan were both occupied territory and to the north and east were empires who would have been unlikely to have welcomed the Israelites. A more workable story is that a few people of Canaanite origin migrated from Egypt at about the end of the Old Kingdom, who had perhaps been made aware of the monotheism pioneered by Akhenaten. They could easily have used this as a foundation myth for a new ‘religion’. The Egyptians kept slaves but it has long since been established that the major building projects right from the beginning were carried out by skilled artisans and agricultural workers acting as labour during periods when they were not needed on the land. Very large amounts of archaeological evidence support this, there is none that indicates a large scale slave economy. In a nutshell there was no economic or military reason why tens of thousands of people from Canaan would have been resident in Egypt at the time of Rameses II. Another possibility is that Moses was actually an Egyptian (it is an Egyptian name) who being a subscriber to the monotheistic faith of Akhenaten took a small group of fellow believers north an east with him to escape the persecution that such heresy would have brought upon them. On arrival in the land further north it may have been easier for him to practice this religion and eventually exaggerated myths would have arisen about the arrival of a prophet. The Exodus story was not written until over more than 600 years after it was alleged to have taken place and this was at the time of the Babylonian exile when the Torah was invented. Many Jewish scholars question whether or not the exodus actually happened and many believe it didn't but rather was a story that was told. Here is an article on why. abcnews.go.com/International/exodus-moses-people-happen/story?id=18068905Also, the Moses story is not the only story about a child that was found in the reeds and was taken in and later became a great leader. Sargon the Great has a similar story. He was the king of Akkadian around 2300 BC which is earlier than the Moses story which was written around 600 BC. Then there is the story of Karna which was a Hindu hero. In this story, a virgin is impregnated by the sun god (sound Christian?). In shame the child is sent down a river and found by a charioteer (low caste) who found him a famous teacher of war. This child was Karna who would become major warrior in the Mahabharata. So, in summary most Hebrew scholars and a great many Christian scholars now do not believe the Moses story and the exodus are actually historical but more a story that was copied from earlier stories when the Jews were in exile in Babylon. It was believed by Jewish scholars to be an attempt to give those in exile, hope. There is no evidence that several million slaves escaped Egypt and wandered in the desert for 40 years. That would have left a huge 'footprint' and so far there is nothing to indicate that. Also, there is nothing in Egyptian history talking about losing over a million of it's slaves. It would have been a huge blow if it were true, to there economy. And, nothing was written. Also, the route that Moses and his people were supposed to have taken was along several Egyptian fortifications so they would have had some altercations with them. And last to the summary, they escaped from Egypt to an area that was also under Egyptian control. So none of it makes any sense that it really happened for obvious reasons. It's a great story of hope, freedom from oppression etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 22:41:32 GMT -5
"The Egyptians kept slaves but it has long since been established that the major building projects " Google search the above and get the source - snow did not write that material, and login is required to see the whole source, so a lot of research would be needed to examine the source for any evidence. Compared to the video viewable by anyone online, "Exodus Revealed," the post by snow is just closed and common AND old opinion mentioned right up front in the video. Also, the video reveals newer discovery that now accompanies the former more popular idea that the Israelites crossed the Bitter Lake (The Reed Sea) And the visitor is invited to chose whichever the visitor likes of the two Exodus routes (this not being anything like a salvation issue, is intended to build trust in the Bible – here are 2 links (half hour vids) that will provide the visitor with that Reed Sea crossing route - and there re other old ideas regarding the route that Israel took out of Egypt. So you need not toss your Bible on account of snow who is atheist by choice (by simply ignoring or denying this type of Bible supporting evidence even exists), for whom the opening post was not posted in any such hope as to convince snow of ANYTHING at all. The opening post was posted for 2x2/visitors. Digging for Truth Episode 72 Mount Sinai and the Red Sea Crossing (Part one) www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiwQ0KtD3fIDigging for Truth Episode 73 Mount Sinai and the Red Sea Crossing (Part Two) www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM5sbvr9U5MGoogle search return: Why is there no evidence of the Exodus? www.researchgate.net/post/Why_is_there_no_evidence_of_the_ExodusThe Egyptians kept slaves but it has long since been established that the major building projects right from the beginning were carried out by skilled artisans and agricultural workers acting as labour during periods when they were not needed on the land. Very large amounts of archaeological... By the way, without wasting time to research material that requires login, the above quotation taken from the SINGLE google search result is sufficient to point out that it ASSUMES those Israelite slaves in Egypt were NOT "skilled artisans" and/or that their Egyptian task masters with "the rod is in my hand, be not idle" were also NOT "skilled artisans." So I did not need to log in to see more of that material to understand that material is simply anti-Bible biased, just like snow.
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Post by matisse on Jan 20, 2020 23:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 23:49:57 GMT -5
"Snopes files reports of such "evidence" under junk news."
So what? The video presents pictures and that 'fact check' looks a lot like common, ordinary anti-Bible biased "junk news" that provides no supporting evidence of its ruling whatsoever.
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David Mikkelson founded the site now known as snopes.com back in 1994 as a creative outgrowth of his wide-ranging interests in a variety of subjects (particularly folklore) and his professional expertise in the computer industry. Handling everything from researching and writing articles about urban legends to managing the site’s technical infrastructure, David saw snopes.com (which antedated the development of automated search engines) quickly become the go-to place for Internet users to query about anything questionable they encountered online, establishing it as the oldest and best known online fact-checking outlet operating today. unquote
I have a Bible authored by God, not a 'fact check' that relies on public popularity. And the Exodus Revealed video is supported by that Bible far better than "www.snopes.com" is supported by its founder.
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Post by matisse on Jan 21, 2020 0:02:06 GMT -5
At the conclusion of the film, the narrator admits, "perhaps belief in the Exodus will always require a measure of faith..."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 0:19:11 GMT -5
"At the conclusion of the film, the narrator admits, "perhaps belief in the Exodus will always require a measure of faith...""
And the Bible states very clearly that "faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God." And in this case the video presents SIGHT as well as hearing the word of God, which combines in support of the Exodus account that is contained within the word of God. Snops presents NOTHING except its founder's popular opinion with no supporting evidence whatsoever.
But do keep trying to destroy the uplifting video's possible positive support for 2x2/visitors who have as yet not tossed out their Bible - because as I recall you were prominent in the popular TMBer's vote to toss my first two threads off the public board to where they cannot be viewed except by logged in TMBers -- ho hum - such 'love' towards others is not hard to find on this board.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 21, 2020 0:45:18 GMT -5
The second film showed an old pyramid specifically built for grain storage. They call it the pyramid of Joseph or whatever his Egyptian name was. It was old very old!
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Post by matisse on Jan 21, 2020 0:47:29 GMT -5
I saved myself 1:24:58 by looking at the end of the video first. They clearly have no proof. At least they are somewhat honest about that. People who need to believe will not be dissuaded by my remarks. That's how Christian Apologetics work; the empty hand waving doesn't put off those who are hungry for reassurance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 1:05:33 GMT -5
I saved myself 1:24:58 by looking at the end of the video first. They clearly have no proof. At least they are somewhat honest about that. People who need to believe will not be dissuaded by my remarks. That's how Christian Apologetics work; the empty hand waving doesn't put off those who are hungry for reassurance. Awww I nowww - nobody would be dissuaded by your remarks," especially any who sit back and watch your performance with posts and threads not made for your eyes. Like I said, your kind of 'love' towards others is not hard to find on this board, so destroy away at the uplifting evidence that you now admit to having looked at NONE of that video -- that video has 1:24:52 and you "saved" "1:24:58." 'Marvelous' performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 1:31:53 GMT -5
The second film showed an old pyramid specifically built for grain storage. They call it the pyramid of Joseph or whatever his Egyptian name was. It was old very old! It also showed a red granite pillar on which were or are written Hebrew names including "Solomon," which pillar was more recently moved from the waters edge on the Saudi side of the crossing - across from the Nuweibaa Beach start of the crossing. And from there it shows the location of the mountain of God (the destination of the Israelites) in North Western Saudi Arabia, in complete agreement with what the Apostle Paul mentioned regarding that mountain being in "Arabia." These are additional details that add much to the Exodus Revealed video's details. There is more evidence for the crossing of the Red Sea between Nuweibaa Beach and that pillar than any other route proposed previously. And it is hoped that such videos can help put the feet of 2x2/visitors on solid granite footing of faith in God's word - including your faith - it certainly did that for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 2:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by nathan on Jan 21, 2020 9:22:42 GMT -5
Ron Wyatt found Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels buried at the bottom of the Red Sea/Gulf Aqaba.
Here is the second Witness.... Dr. David Kim/Korean and his team went to the same place and took their own pictures that Ron W. had taken pictures of the Pharaoh's army chariots gold wheels at the bottom of the gulf Aqaba/Red Sea.
Published on Jul 6, 2013
David Gates interviews Dr. David Kim, who made 12 trips behind military fences in Saudi Arabia and climbed Mt. Sinai to collect evidence of a Red Sea crossing. Amazing photos and artifacts. A Korean physician, Dr. Kim was the personal physician for the Prince of Saudi Arabia for 16 years. During this time Dr. Kim made his repeated trips down into Midian to search for traces of the Exodus and Mount Sinai which he had heard about from materials published by Ron Wyatt. Because he was fluent in Arabic and had a personal recommendation from the Prince, with the help of local Bedoins, Dr. Kim was able to get behind the fences protected by the military. He climbed Mt. Sinai and discovered many Hebrew petroglyphs previously unknown by the public. He took thousands of pictures and collected artifacts. Here is his outstanding testimony and photographs which confirm the location of the Red Sea crossing during the Exodus. Many evidences are shown the children of Israel journey in the desert for 40 yrs... MANY artifacts found in the desert.... The BIG Rock, where Moses strike twice, God had told to strike ONLY once for the water to come out, but because of his disobedience God did NOT allow Moses to enter the promised land.
Watch at 16-18 minutes of the Video.... where Dr. David Kim team took pictures at the same location as Ron Wyatt did, the gold wheels chariots and so on... Here are his team pictures... They got the location from Ron Wyatt and they took their own pictures! At 40:00 minutes Dr. Kim has confirmed Ron Wyatt findings of Pharaoh's army gold wheels Chariots at the gulf of Aqaba were NOT a hoax! or a fairy tale but historical facts. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubKUip6pz0
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 21, 2020 13:28:21 GMT -5
"At the conclusion of the film, the narrator admits, "perhaps belief in the Exodus will always require a measure of faith..."" And the Bible states very clearly that "faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God." And in this case the video presents SIGHT as well as hearing the word of God, which combines in support of the Exodus account that is contained within the word of God. But do keep trying to destroy the uplifting video's possible positive support for 2x2/visitors who have as yet not tossed out their Bible - because as I recall you were prominent in the popular TMBer's vote to toss my first two threads off the public board to where they cannot be viewed except by logged in TMBers -- ho hum - such 'love' towards others is not hard to find on this board. Then why can't you just believe by "faith" and quit trying to verify what is "faith" with actual facts?
No one is "trying to destroy the uplifting video's" -but merely showing how frauds are often perpetuated.
"Love" for others is trying to help them to not be taken in by fraudulent claims.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 21, 2020 15:22:44 GMT -5
“why can't you just believe by "faith" and quit trying to verify what is "faith" with actual facts? “ Because my simple mind does not want to join atheistic BLIND faith. Nor do I believe that 2x2/visitors deserve to have whatever faith in the Bible they managed to receive from God while imprisoned under Biblically illiterate teachers called “workers” destroyed by former 2x2 atheists (etc.) of this board. With the abundance of Biblical Archaeology freely available, 2x2/visitors have no reason to listen to those on this board who either WILL not look at, have not looked at, or simply deny that such abundant Archaelogical evidence exists. professing.proboards.com/thread/28969/reliability-bible-2x2-visitors-page(Final comp. “3 minutes ago”) Your prejudice shows when you call it "Biblical Archaeology" It isn't archaeology done by professional archaeologists but done by Christian 'apologists;' - amateurs, - in an attempt to "prove" their "faith"
They start with the idea of what they want to find and then retro-fit what they think they have found into what they wanted to find in the first place! The very opposite of how archeologists actually work.
You are also wrong that others haven't "looked" a their claims.
We have looked a their claims. & proved the purveyors just as false as their claims are.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 21, 2020 16:45:46 GMT -5
“It isn't archaeology done by professional archaeologists but done by Christian 'apologists;' - amateurs, - in an attempt to "prove" their "faith" “ Awwwwwwwww I nowww – the presenter in the video “The Biblical Exodus... Fairytale or Historical Fact? (by David Rohl) “ stated he is an “agnostic” Archaeologist with plenty of degrees. (Final comp. “a few seconds ago”) This was debuked years ago @gratu !!! Do some more research into Ron Wyatt !!!
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Post by mountain on Jan 21, 2020 18:00:41 GMT -5
This was debuked years ago @gratu !!! Do some more research into Ron Wyatt !!! Anyone can do the research - I notice the usual lot of TMB detractors (demolition team) so far have given no evidence of doing any research; just do a lot of 'claiming' and 'insinuating' which is very like the gossip practiced in the 2x2 grapevines aimed at destruction of persons. So instead of running off at their 'orders' to do THEIR research for em, I have instead, posted Ron Wyatt's own videos to let him give his own testimony to any 2x2/visitor who cares to hear his own testimony. "Final comp. "3 minutes ago") I don't know where all this is going, but it seems to me that you expect people to just believe what you present (I am not disputing what you have shown here, by the way), yet when Nathan carefully and meticulously presents his evidence for the gospel connections to Venus and hollow Earth, Nazis occupying the Moon and so on, you behave in the same way as those disputing your presentations. Grats, in order to be credible, you must be consistent!
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 21, 2020 18:07:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 18:55:00 GMT -5
You really do begin to wonder what is the point of posting this. No non believer is ever going to be convinced by this as no unbeliever is that gullible. And sincere believers presumably already have enough faith that they don’t require any evidence that the bible is true. Many believers are prepared to believe that stories in the bible are literally true without any evidence whatsoever, no matter how preposterous the story. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths to which believers, who maintain that they don’t require any evidence, will go to to try to provide actual evidence to support their belief that the bible is true. And despite consistently failing to do so, they continue to do so only to fail, fail and fail again. The only people who could possibly be persuaded by this are people whose faith is weak and desperately wish to have it increased. And of course videos like this are designed to prey upon such vulnerable people. I watched the first five minutes of this and it provided no hard evidence (or indeed any other sort of evidence) whatsoever to support the biblical story. Instead what I got was that familiar emotive music which religious videos often rely on to draw vulnerable people in accompanied by the inevitable equally persuasive speaker. It’s all part of a carefully crafted religious con. So people of weak faith should beware. I had to go some way into the video (admittedly making generous use of the fast forward button) before I found something that resembled a claim relating to evidence. This appeared to amount to someone saying that they’d found traces of metal on coral before making a huge leap and suggesting that this might have been bronze from the wheel of an Egyptian chariot from several thousand years ago with the insinuation that this is evidence that the bible is true. It’s so ridiculous it’s hardly needs pointing out. I then jumped forward a little further to about and hour and 9 minutes in where it makes reference to a diver having photographed this circular object attached to what APPEARS to be a broken axle or hub and claims that this discovery is important for two reasons (1) it documented the coral encrusted FORM of a wheel (but not an actual wheel) with dimensions similar to ancient Egyptians artefacts across from the site and (2) it provided independent confirmation of earlier evidence of wheel LIKE formations on both sides of the Red Sea (but no actual wheels) in accordance with the descriptions in the biblical record. Remarkably (but conveniently) it then avoids saying anything more about what this earlier evidence is. Presumably the believer is just supposed to blindly accept this. Given that they can’t even verify that it actually is a broken axle or hub but merely APPEARS to be a broken axle or hub but yet go on to insinuate that this is in some way evidence to support the bible being true is just as ridiculous as the claim referred to in my previous paragraph. And then two minutes later it states that in the waters of Aqaba it APPEARS that remnants of 4 and 6 spoke wheels have been discovered which are of a design supposedly no later that about 1400 BC which (again conveniently) coincides with the timeframe for the biblical story. This leaves one wondering were remnants of such wheels actually found and if so where are they? The video certainly doesn’t go on to explain this but jumps instead straight into another story. So what happened to these wheels if they really were found? It seems the site truthorfiction.com provides the answer below. I guess people will make up their own minds on the credibility of these claims. Meanwhile I suspect that most people will find the claims made in the video ridiculous. Matt10 “ Much of this eRumor (that chariot wheels have been found) is based on the findings of Ron Wyatt, a colorful and controversial amateur archeologist who claimed to have found Noah’s ark, the Biblical Ark of the Covenant, the location of Sodom And Gomorrah, the Tower of Babel, the true site of Mt. Sinai, the true site of the crucifixion of Jesus, and the original stones of the Ten Commandments. He was a passionate and sincere man, according to his supporters, but his critics abound and scientists and archeologists regarded him as an untrained maverick at best and there are some who regarded his as a fraud.....
It was while diving along the beach at Nuweiba that he found what he said were chariot parts. .... It was on that same trip in 1978 that Wyatt found what he said were the remains of chariots and chariot wheels at the bottom of the sea. They were heavily covered with coral. Wyatt claimed to have retrieved one of the wheels and said an Egyptian authority declared that it was from the 18th dynasty of Ancient Egypt, but nobody seems to know where that chariot wheel is now located.
Wyatt’s focus on Nuweiba and his claims of finding chariot remains on the floor of the sea have brought other adventurers to the site but even Wyatt’s supporters urge caution about their enthusiastic findings. Richard Rives, the president of Wyatt Archeological Research in Tennessee, told journalist Joe Kovacs, “All kinds of people are finding coral and calling it chariot parts.” Wyatt’s wife, Mary Nell, told Kovacs the same. She went diving with Wyatt at the Red Sea site and said that at first she thought everything was a chariot wheel.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 20:38:03 GMT -5
no one will believe it cause it comes from youtube...i however have seen the vids and articles and find them quite credible..... YouTube is not the issue here. Ron Wyatt, and more importantly, his data. Imagine finding a wheel from the exodus of the Jews from Egypt and then misplacing it before anyone could verify it. And claiming it had been examined by experts and then having the people mentioned deny Ron's story. Imagine a person who claimed to fine the ark of the covenant covered with the blood of Jesus and then only getting a very blurry photo and losing the sample of the blood. What a run of bad luck.
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 20:45:52 GMT -5
"Snopes files reports of such "evidence" under junk news." So what? The video presents pictures and that 'fact check' looks a lot like common, ordinary anti-Bible biased "junk news" that provides no supporting evidence of its ruling whatsoever. Quote David Mikkelson David Mikkelson founded the site now known as snopes.com back in 1994 as a creative outgrowth of his wide-ranging interests in a variety of subjects (particularly folklore) and his professional expertise in the computer industry. Handling everything from researching and writing articles about urban legends to managing the site’s technical infrastructure, David saw snopes.com (which antedated the development of automated search engines) quickly become the go-to place for Internet users to query about anything questionable they encountered online, establishing it as the oldest and best known online fact-checking outlet operating today. unquote I have a Bible authored by God, not a 'fact check' that relies on public popularity. And the Exodus Revealed video is supported by that Bible far better than "www.snopes.com" is supported by its founder. Good stuff about Ron Wyatt.I added this for humor...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 21:07:22 GMT -5
no one will believe it cause it comes from youtube...i however have seen the vids and articles and find them quite credible..... YouTube is not the issue here. Ron Wyatt, and more importantly, his data. Imagine finding a wheel from the exodus of the Jews from Egypt and then misplacing it before anyone could verify it. And claiming it had been examined by experts and then having the people mentioned deny Ron's story. Imagine a person who claimed to fine the ark of the covenant covered with the blood of Jesus and then only getting a very blurry photo and losing the sample of the blood. What a run of bad luck. sorry rational you haven't been paying attention very well...almost the first thing out of anyones mouth when a youtube vid is presented as evidencce is "youtube is not a credible source"...
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 21:59:51 GMT -5
sorry rational you haven't been paying attention very well...almost the first thing out of anyones mouth when a youtube vid is presented as evidencce is "youtube is not a credible source"... No @wally, it is you that has not been paying attention. I am probably the person who speaks out most frequently regarding youtube videos. It is not the platform that is delivering the video that is the problem it is the source of the video that is questionable. And, of course, the lack of supporting data. Here is a photo from the Red Sea: One might wonder why a horse drawn chariot wheel would need a counterweight. But then the answer can be seen on another of Ron's photos: It looks like one of pharaoh's steam powered chariots. But then there is this: Ron Wyatt, the discover, said the bottom of the Red Sea looked like a junk yard of antiques from from 3500 years ago. And all discoveries were authenticated by Nassif Mohammed Hassan, Director of Antiquities in Cairo, who said the findings were definitely 18th century antiquities.Discovery News I guess I could buy the idea that they are 18th century antiquities (doesn't the attention to details make this seem even more possible???). If one believes the bible there is the question of the 2.5 - 3.0 million people who crossed the same sea with their cattle and supplies. Oddly enough none of the debris that was surly shed by the millions was not found. Only Egyptian wheels. And the odd steam engine.
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Post by rational on Jan 21, 2020 22:44:48 GMT -5
I could not see rational's while not logged in. And when logged in to post, I didn't take a look at his hidden posts. But I did expect that the chief demolition 'ex spert' on this board would eventually show up on this thread. What I want to post this time is in reference to what I posted long ago on this thread, i.e., while none of my posts on this thread present any salvation issue of any kind, the posts of videos are intended to help those with weak faith to see the solid platform of faith in God's word that is right in front of them and ready to lift them up to strong faith in God's word. And of course, one more time – NONE of my posts on this thread were posted for the eyes of the TMB demolition team, but are posted for the eyes of 2x2/visitors alone. Now I smile ear to ear as I watch HOW HARD the TMB demolition team is working to destroy that uplift of faith – which faith they obviously do not possess even the size of a speck of dust. And most of them pretend to love others – ho hum, their evidence on here tells the very opposite tale. And that is in addition to what God said thousands of years ago regarding those who say in their hearts 'there is no god.' I suppose I should be hoping that they will turn to God, but I am just a weak human being who has seen nothing but hate from them on here for nearly a year - kind of like, I gave up on helping them quite a while ago, trusting God to have mercy on those He might choose from among them. (Final comp. "3 minutes ago") First, telling the truth is not had work. The hard work is learning to think for yourself. You must be so proud of presenting items that have been debunked by all sides, essentially lies, as a way that you believe will be uplifting those with "weak faith". When religious information is debunked by Answers in Genesis, as is most of Ron Wyatt's material, it is a sign you are throwing the slime from the very bottom of the barrel out to help lift people's faith. That is so far from the idea that 'The Truth Will Set You Free' that is sits right next to 'Arbeit macht frei'.
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