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Post by snow on Jan 11, 2020 15:52:00 GMT -5
As you know, Catholics claim this. Interestingly, my son's best friend in high school was chatecized into the beliefs of Catholicism. No, I wasn't a good practicing 2x2, but I had inherited and internalized the benevolent precepts and reward of the gospel. The RCC can claim all they want but I don't see like what I read in the gospel or the 1st century New Testament Church. They can claim they are the duck, but they don't walk and quack like a duck then it's NOT a duck!
You are like the Old Testament children of Israel, inherited the law of Moses and commandment of God, but not really understand what awesome inheritance they had as a 2x2. There is more to 2x2 than meet the eyes.If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible.
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Post by mountain on Jan 11, 2020 17:10:02 GMT -5
Our brain's supposed to reach its peak at age 27 but guess different intellectual skills develop at different ages. Maths is one that develops at a young age. My experience has shown me that learning to play a musical instrument or learning a language is a lot harder as an adult if you did not have the grounding as a child. I think a lot of people have the intellectual capabiity but never had the opportunity to develop it when they were younger due to life circumstances or like Piaget states some people never move beyond the concrete thinking stage of intellectual development to the next level of reasoning skills. What I find is that time and application are more essential as we grow older. I find that nowadays I am capable of keeping one ball in the air at a time, whereasup until my 40s I was able to juggle a few balls at a time. I reckon I was never young enough to develop mathematical acumen?
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 17:18:01 GMT -5
The RCC can claim all they want but I don't see like what I read in the gospel or the 1st century New Testament Church. They can claim they are the duck, but they don't walk and quack like a duck then it's NOT a duck!
You are like the Old Testament children of Israel, inherited the law of Moses and commandment of God, but not really understand what awesome inheritance they had as a 2x2. There is more to 2x2 than meet the eyes. If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible. ** That is NOT 100% correct the RCC. was NOT the only group possess the writing of Scriptures... the Christians groups like Vaudois and those like them had preserved the writing of the Scriptures. They have the churches history kept in their own libraries.
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Post by mountain on Jan 11, 2020 17:18:03 GMT -5
The RCC can claim all they want but I don't see like what I read in the gospel or the 1st century New Testament Church. They can claim they are the duck, but they don't walk and quack like a duck then it's NOT a duck!
You are like the Old Testament children of Israel, inherited the law of Moses and commandment of God, but not really understand what awesome inheritance they had as a 2x2. There is more to 2x2 than meet the eyes. If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible. Yes, and if it was up to the Catholic Church there still wouldn't be a Bible (for the common man).
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Post by Annan on Jan 11, 2020 17:23:06 GMT -5
They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. And you know this how? Considering no one has access to the libraries.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 17:26:10 GMT -5
We have historical documents to prove ii has been done for over 2000 yrs that God has preserved His apostolic ministry and people even to our own generation... And it will continue to the time of Jesus returns. And who is "we"? Where are these historical documents? *** For 20 yrs, I have posted the Vaudious church history, they were Paul's converts in Rome in 66-68 A.D. while he was a prisoner of Nero the emperor. I still have different writing of church historians and the Vaudois church historians writings.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 17:27:54 GMT -5
They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. And you know this how? Considering no one has access to the libraries. ** They posted their church history in books and eventually it was posted on line.
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Post by Annan on Jan 11, 2020 17:40:50 GMT -5
And you know this how? Considering no one has access to the libraries. ** They posted their church history in books and eventually it was posted on line. This church? From Wikipedia: The Waldensians (also known as Waldenses (/wɔːlˈdɛnsiːz, wɒl-/), Vallenses, Valdesi or Vaudois) are an ascetic movement within Christianity, reputedly founded by Peter Waldo in Lyon around 1173. Sounds like another man-made church like the 2x2's.
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Post by snow on Jan 11, 2020 18:04:22 GMT -5
If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible. ** That is NOT 100% correct the RCC. was NOT the only group possess the writing of Scriptures... the Christians groups like Vaudois and those like them had preserved the writing of the Scriptures. They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. The Gnostics also had the gospels preserved. The RCC tried to get rid of some of them that didn't fit their patriarch mindset. But bottom line Nathan, there was only one group, the RCC that put the Jewish text and some of the gospels they approved of together and made the bible as we know it today. No other group did that and I doubt any of them would have included the OT. Especially the Gnostic Christians.
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Post by snow on Jan 11, 2020 18:05:52 GMT -5
If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible. Yes, and if it was up to the Catholic Church there still wouldn't be a Bible (for the common man). They were the ones that put the bible together as we know it, but you're right. It wouldn't be for the layperson. Just the clergy.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 18:20:41 GMT -5
** That is NOT 100% correct the RCC. was NOT the only group possess the writing of Scriptures... the Christians groups like Vaudois and those like them had preserved the writing of the Scriptures. They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. The Gnostics also had the gospels preserved. The RCC tried to get rid of some of them that didn't fit their patriarch mindset. But bottom line Nathan, there was only one group, the RCC that put the Jewish text and some of the gospels they approved of together and made the bible as we know it today. No other group did that and I doubt any of them would have included the OT. Especially the Gnostic Christians. ** If you had studied the book of Revelation chapters 11-18 you would have seen and understand there are TWO Brides of Christ, the TRUE bride and False bride of Christ live side by side on earth until the time of Jesus returns. The True church keeps their own records of the false bride to expose her deceifulness to all.
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Post by snow on Jan 11, 2020 18:25:58 GMT -5
The Gnostics also had the gospels preserved. The RCC tried to get rid of some of them that didn't fit their patriarch mindset. But bottom line Nathan, there was only one group, the RCC that put the Jewish text and some of the gospels they approved of together and made the bible as we know it today. No other group did that and I doubt any of them would have included the OT. Especially the Gnostic Christians. ** If you had studied the book of Revelation chapters 11-18 you would have seen and understand there are TWO Brides of Christ, the TRUE bride and False bride of Christ live side by side on earth until the time of Jesus returns. The True church keeps their own records of the false bride to expose her deceifulness to all. Is that considered polygamy? Maybe the Hebrews and the Mormons have it right and you need more than one wife!
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 19:50:58 GMT -5
** They posted their church history in books and eventually it was posted on line. This church? From Wikipedia: The Waldensians (also known as Waldenses (/wɔːlˈdɛnsiːz, wɒl-/), Vallenses, Valdesi or Vaudois) are an ascetic movement within Christianity, reputedly founded by Peter Waldo in Lyon around 1173. Sounds like another man-made church like the 2x2's. ** This is Wiki information it does NOT come from the Vaudois church historians themselves. The RCC had half truth information history about the Vaudois also.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 19:56:38 GMT -5
** If you had studied the book of Revelation chapters 11-18 you would have seen and understand there are TWO Brides of Christ, the TRUE bride and False bride of Christ live side by side on earth until the time of Jesus returns. The True church keeps their own records of the false bride to expose her deceifulness to all. Is that considered polygamy? Maybe the Hebrews and the Mormons have it right and you need more than one wife! *** haha! No, No, Christ/Jesus has ONLY ONE TRUE BRIDE or True church made up assembly of True followers through the centuries. Satan creates the false bride/false churches to confuse people in thinking they are following the TRUE BRIDE to the marriage feast but God will NOT open the gate to welcome them in.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 11, 2020 20:21:21 GMT -5
If not for the RCC there wouldn't even BE a bible. ** That is NOT 100% correct the RCC. was NOT the only group possess the writing of Scriptures... the Christians groups like Vaudois and those like them had preserved the writing of the Scriptures. They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. Wrong again. The Bible was compiled long before the Vaudois decided what to believe.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 11, 2020 20:23:06 GMT -5
** If you had studied the book of Revelation chapters 11-18 you would have seen and understand there are TWO Brides of Christ, the TRUE bride and False bride of Christ live side by side on earth until the time of Jesus returns. The True church keeps their own records of the false bride to expose her deceifulness to all. Is that considered polygamy? Maybe the Hebrews and the Mormons have it right and you need more than one wife! I think if he had more wives they might be able to straighten him out a bit. Someone has to tell him the comic strips are pure fiction.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Jan 11, 2020 20:26:10 GMT -5
The Truth was built upon John Govan's Faith Mission, I believe.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 11, 2020 20:26:54 GMT -5
Is that considered polygamy? Maybe the Hebrews and the Mormons have it right and you need more than one wife! *** haha! No, No, Christ/Jesus has ONLY ONE TRUE BRIDE or True church made up assembly of True followers through the centuries. Satan creates the false bride/false churches to confuse people in thinking they are following the TRUE BRIDE to the marriage feast but God will NOT open the gate to welcome them in. So why do you follow people like Stranges then nathan ?
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 20:30:56 GMT -5
** That is NOT 100% correct the RCC. was NOT the only group possess the writing of Scriptures... the Christians groups like Vaudois and those like them had preserved the writing of the Scriptures. They have the churches history kept in their own libraries. Wrong again. The Bible was compiled long before the Vaudois decided what to believe. ** WHEN do you think the Vaudois came into existence?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 11, 2020 20:32:11 GMT -5
Wrong again. The Bible was compiled long before the Vaudois decided what to believe. ** WHEN do you think the Vaudois came into existence? I didn't "think" that.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 20:39:12 GMT -5
** WHEN do you think the Vaudois came into existence? I didn't "think" that. ** What do you mean by you didn't think that?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 11, 2020 20:42:50 GMT -5
** What do you mean by you didn't think that? I mean someone else demonstrated something else to be fact. This, I just reported that you had it wrong.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 20:44:18 GMT -5
** What do you mean by you didn't think that? I mean someone else demonstrated something else to be fact. This, I just reported that you had it wrong. ** No, I believe you are wrong with your report.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 11, 2020 21:15:43 GMT -5
I did an IQ test online today, trying to keep my brain active and got 130 (in the top 5% of the population). I was quite impressed and think maybe life helps bring problem solving skills. Having done a master's degree athough around 30 years ago also helped I guess. I'm impressed with Dmm's intelligence and hope my brains as good as hers when I'm in my 80s. Thanks, enuf. You people here on TMB help me to know if I am on track. In fact, I'm depending on you people to let me know when I start running off track!
I do mean that sincerely. Because I am aware that when it happens, I myself will not be able to judge it is happening.
And Thanks before hand
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 11, 2020 21:24:41 GMT -5
it is all downhill after 50 years man.... You mean it gets easier? Now Ben, you very well know that coming down is easier than going up.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 11, 2020 21:26:44 GMT -5
** If you had studied the book of Revelation chapters 11-18 you would have seen and understand there are TWO Brides of Christ, the TRUE bride and False bride of Christ live side by side on earth until the time of Jesus returns. The True church keeps their own records of the false bride to expose her deceifulness to all. Is that considered polygamy? Maybe the Hebrews and the Mormons have it right and you need more than one wife! More like a trinity.
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Post by Annan on Jan 11, 2020 22:02:39 GMT -5
This church? From Wikipedia: The Waldensians (also known as Waldenses (/wɔːlˈdɛnsiːz, wɒl-/), Vallenses, Valdesi or Vaudois) are an ascetic movement within Christianity, reputedly founded by Peter Waldo in Lyon around 1173. Sounds like another man-made church like the 2x2's. ** This is Wiki information it does NOT come from the Vaudois church historians themselves. The RCC had half truth information history about the Vaudois also. I'm sure they lie about their origins just like the 2x2's.
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Post by nathan on Jan 11, 2020 22:05:49 GMT -5
*** what you exes and MOST people don't understand is Jesus gospel message Jesus SAVES and the New Test apostolic ministry and fellowship method is the PLAN God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit PLAN to be continued in every generation to the time of Jesus returns as King of kings and to RULE on the earth 1000 yrs. The Godhead wants every generation to have the SAME opportunity in hearing the same gospel from His true servants and people whom he raised up. We have historical documents to prove ii has been done for over 2000 yrs that God has preserved His apostolic ministry and people even to our own generation... And it will continue to the time of Jesus returns. So says Nate: "Jesus gospel message Jesus SAVES and the New Test apostolic ministry and fellowship method is the PLAN God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit PLAN to be continued in every generation" The Bible says the church shall continue ("gates of hell shall not prevail against it)--but it does not instruct or say that God planned for the 2x2 ministry to continue til the end of time, nor that only through the 2x2 ministry can someone be saved. So, What do you think when Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. You Don't think Jesus meant to continue in this way/method, message to ALL nations to the time of His returns again.Here is the GREAT Commission in Matthew 28:16:20 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
We read the apostles began to go forth from Jerusalem to ALL nations Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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