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Post by intelchips on Jan 5, 2020 16:36:39 GMT -5
In 1896 eminent scholar Nathanial Schmidt was fired from his position as professor of Semitic languages and literature at Colgate University (1888–1896). A year after taking his masters from Colgate, he was appointed professor of Semitic Languages and Literature. Though the teaching of Hebrew was his primary tasking at Colgate, he developed a two-hour course in the history of Babylonia and Assyria. He was fired because he was accused of undermining the faith of his students. Reference wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Schmidt to determine in your own mind just how much of an icon he was in the world of academic languages studies as relates to the Old Testament.. How had a man of such stature gone so far wrong as to get fired? His first mistake to was read the Sumerian Babylonia and Assyrian texts and notice that they were full of fascinating parallels to the stories in the Old Testament. His second mistake was to teach that those parallel stories were the primary source for the stories in the Old Testaments. And his final mistake was to claim that the etymology of the word Anunnaki could hold only one single meaning because nothing had proceeded it. "from the sky-to-the earth" often miss-quoted as "from-the- heavens-to the-earth-they-came" I'm sorry I doubted you all this time Nathan.
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Post by nathan on Jan 5, 2020 18:32:59 GMT -5
In 1896 eminent scholar Nathanial Schmidt was fired from his position as professor of Semitic languages and literature at Colgate University (1888–1896). A year after taking his masters from Colgate, he was appointed professor of Semitic Languages and Literature. Though the teaching of Hebrew was his primary tasking at Colgate, he developed a two-hour course in the history of Babylonia and Assyria. He was fired because he was accused of undermining the faith of his students. Reference wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Schmidt to determine in your own mind just how much of an icon he was in the world of academic languages studies as relates to the Old Testament.. How had a man of such stature gone so far wrong as to get fired? His first mistake to was read the Sumerian Babylonia and Assyrian texts and notice that they were full of fascinating parallels to the stories in the Old Testament. His second mistake was to teach that those parallel stories were the primary source for the stories in the Old Testaments. And his final mistake was to claim that the etymology of the word Anunnaki could hold only one single meaning because nothing had proceeded it. "from the sky-to-the earth" often miss-quoted as "from-the- heavens-to the-earth-they-came" I'm sorry I doubted you all this time Nathan. Well, many of the Bible stories in Genesis came from Sumerian, Babylonian TEXT or writings... Abraham was born in Babylon/Iraq his parents and ancestors were Sumerians, when he left Babylon he brought many of the Sumerian history of mankind, Adam, Eve, Methusala, Enoch, Noah and so on with him to the NEW LAND to preserve history of his ancestors for his children and grand, grand children.... Moses read these history and he and his wise men wrote Genesis, Exodus...
I would NOT be surprised that Abraham had heard and KNOWN about the Anunnaki= "From the sky to the earth as from the heaven to earth they came"... through reading the Sumerians text...
In Genesis chapters 18-19 TWO of Venusian Guardian angels of God from Interior planet of Venus came with Christ in their human form. Christ/God stayed and talked to Abraham, Sarah about the coming birth of their son Isaac and the two Guardian angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family.~~ What is the BRIGHT and MORNING Star? Is the planet Venus.
~ Posted 6/2018 An intelligent briefing/information was given to President Jimmy Carter that Jesus is the Visitor from Venus planet. Then the President Jimmy Carter said " So HOW do we TELL the people that? " listen at 1hr: 47 www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7D8sYpBsooFrom the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth."
"She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 5, 2020 19:39:29 GMT -5
That should get 2 pesos.
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Post by nathan on Jan 5, 2020 21:33:44 GMT -5
haha... My post is priceless... it came from the Dead Sea Scroll. You can't compare the Dead Sea Scroll to your unworthy servant book, probably on the shelves in some people home basement catching dust by now.
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Post by Grant on Jan 6, 2020 1:18:24 GMT -5
haha... My post is priceless... it came from the Dead Sea Scroll. You can't compare the Dead Sea Scroll to your unworthy servant book, probably on the shelves in some people home basement catching dust by now. If we are to take into account what you said the other day, Nathan, it did not come from the Dead Sea scrolls but is what your idol Dr Stranges claimed the angel showed him as a supposed interpretation of it. Did Dr Strange even know the Hebrew language. I prefer an exact translation of the original not something a person claimed an Angel revealed to him. The Mormon church was founded on the book of Mormon which Joseph Smith claimed an Angel revealed to him.
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 1:22:37 GMT -5
haha... My post is priceless... it came from the Dead Sea Scroll. You can't compare the Dead Sea Scroll to your unworthy servant book, probably on the shelves in some people home basement catching dust by now. If we are to take into account what you said the other day, Nathan, it did not come from the Dead Sea scrolls but is what your idol Dr Stranges claimed the angel showed him as a supposed interpretation of it. Did Dr Strange even know the Hebrew language. I prefer an exact translation of the original not something a person claimed an Angel revealed to him. The Mormon church was founded on the book of Mormon which Joseph Smith claimed an Angel revealed to him. These came from the Dead Sea Scrolls. From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." web.archive.org/web/20161214143713/http://www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm I believe Frank E. Stranges KNEW Hebrews because He graduated from Bible Seminary and a Theologian himself.
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Post by Grant on Jan 6, 2020 2:15:00 GMT -5
So it's what Dr Frank says the angel revealed to him, not a professional translation of the original. Attending Bible seminary and being a theologian does not teach you to be a professional translator of the Hebrew language. Don't post fake translations on here, Nathan. This is not a translation of the Dead Sea scrolls. It's a fake. No wonder he requests it be kept a secret which if I remember correctly you said was Dr Strange's request. I doubt if Dr Stranges even got his hands on the scrolls. Found in cave 3. Copper Scroll - Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_Scroll
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Post by mountain on Jan 6, 2020 3:32:41 GMT -5
Keep in mind there are angels of light and angels of darkness and the latter will appear as the former as their main purpose is to deceive. Just like Mohammed apparently was spoken to by an angel, so too can many others have been. An angel does not automatically mean they are an angel sent by God, but may in fact be the opposite. If what an angel says does not line up exactly with what scripture says, then it most likely was not sent by God.
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Post by Grant on Jan 6, 2020 3:34:07 GMT -5
If we are to take into account what you said the other day, Nathan, it did not come from the Dead Sea scrolls but is what your idol Dr Stranges claimed the angel showed him as a supposed interpretation of it. Did Dr Strange even know the Hebrew language. I prefer an exact translation of the original not something a person claimed an Angel revealed to him. The Mormon church was founded on the book of Mormon which Joseph Smith claimed an Angel revealed to him. These came from the Dead Sea Scrolls. From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." web.archive.org/web/20161214143713/http://www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm I believe Frank E. Stranges KNEW Hebrews because He graduated from Bible Seminary and a Theologian himself.
The link you give is from the rense.com website which you can see is questionable.
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 8:43:52 GMT -5
These came from the Dead Sea Scrolls. From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." web.archive.org/web/20161214143713/http://www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm I believe Frank E. Stranges KNEW Hebrews because He graduated from Bible Seminary and a Theologian himself.
The link you give is from the rense.com website which you can see is questionable. I believe that came from Frank and Val. Thor doing. They want to share the Dead Sea Scrolls writing which are hidden from the public.
www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mysteries+of+the+Dead+Sea+Scrolls&&view=detail&mid=A42EB39FA9BA3803A71DA42EB39FA9BA3803A71D&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DMysteries%2Bof%2Bthe%2BDead%2BSea%2BScrolls%26Form%3DVDRSCL%26%3D0
Val. asked Frank which part of history of earth would he like to see? He said, "The Dead Sea Scrolls." Frank talked about it in one of his lecture tours in Kona, Hawaii 2007 and he died in 2008.
Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well.
The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness.
Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities.
He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces.
This is Frank's lecture where he mentioned about the "History Coins." of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 2007 Kona, Hawaii. Listen at 54:00 min. where Frank mention about the History of the coins/disks.
www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mysteries+of+the+Dead+Sea+Scrolls&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dMysteries%2bof%2bthe%2bDead%2bSea%2bScrolls%26Form%3dVDRSCL%26%3d0&view=detail&mid=BC90DB152F61E2628F70BC90DB152F61E2628F70&&FORM=VDRVRV
The Guardian angels are keeping records of everyone who lives on earth so, these records of their good works or evil will be presented in the DAY of Judgment! to be punished or to get lesser sentenced.
95 A.D. Rev. 20:12-15 And I/John the apostle saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Post by mountain on Jan 6, 2020 9:15:24 GMT -5
The link you give is from the rense.com website which you can see is questionable. I believe that came from Frank and Val. Thor doing. They want to share the Dead Sea Scrolls writing which are hidden from the public.
www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mysteries+of+the+Dead+Sea+Scrolls&&view=detail&mid=A42EB39FA9BA3803A71DA42EB39FA9BA3803A71D&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DMysteries%2Bof%2Bthe%2BDead%2BSea%2BScrolls%26Form%3DVDRSCL%26%3D0
Val. asked Frank which part of history of earth would he like to see? He said, "The Dead Sea Scrolls." Frank talked about it in one of his lecture tours in Kona, Hawaii 2007 and he died in 2008.
Frank Potter was a member of Inner Circle of Dr. Frank group/Melchizedek
"The Stranger at The Pentagon" book written by Pastor Frank E. Stranges is just the beginning. The many wonderful truths in the book "Outwitting Tomorrow" are only the tip of the iceberg. Val Thor an Elohim or "Created Being" whose home is on Venus is the leader of the Solar Councils mission to earth. He was directly commissioned by Sananda-Yehoshua The Christ to oversee the planetary redemption plans to liberate earth to make the people of earth aware that we are not alone in the universe.
Valiant Thor also has spoken to the United Nations on several occasions. Val has worked with the governments of the world to offer them interplanetary cultural exchange which would allow earth to advance in terms of technology. The governments or Cabal refused his offer of assistance to earth many years ago because it would threaten their positions of power and make our financial systems obsolete. Open contact would bring in free energy and advanced healing putting the pharmaceutical industries of sickness as well as the oil and electrical companies out of business as well.
The Stranger at The Pentagon. He met Dr. Frank Stranges at the pentagon in 1957 and began a long association which has been the source of a tremendous volume of spiritual information that Dr. Frank faithfully revealed to the world over his 61 year ministry. Dr. Frank was an earthly member of the council of 12. This council was comprised of 6 space family members and 6 earthly counterparts. This council met regularly and discussed the plans and actions of how to administer humanity into the realization we are not alone on earth and we are responsible for our own spiritual awareness.
Dr Frank was given many lessons on the true history of the earth. He was also taken to Venus several times and to the inner earth agarthan network where he actually saw unicorns, mastadons and other dinosaurs including the famous Sasquatch. Commander Thor introduced him to large benevolent beings from 9-14 feet tall. Dr Frank was chosen by Val to share the revelations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which have been hidden from humanity by the Jewish authorities.
He was privileged to meet the Ascended master Yehoshua the Christ on several occasions and you hear details of these astounding encounters. He was able to view holograms of earths ancient history on special "History Coins" which projected the records of the Akashic right before his eyes. He shares the truth of the star of Bethlehem and When Moses met the Burning Bush. He shares the true eyewitness details of the Last Supper. You will learned who killed both Kennedy's and the location of the 12 Victor class spaceships which encircle the earth in their mission to oversee and protect the earth from hostile forces.
This is Frank's lecture where he mentioned about the "History Coins." of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 2007 Kona, Hawaii. Listen at 54:00 min. where Frank mention about the History of the coins/disks.
www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Mysteries+of+the+Dead+Sea+Scrolls&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dMysteries%2bof%2bthe%2bDead%2bSea%2bScrolls%26Form%3dVDRSCL%26%3d0&view=detail&mid=BC90DB152F61E2628F70BC90DB152F61E2628F70&&FORM=VDRVRV
The Guardian angels are keeping records of everyone who lives on earth so, these records of their works good or evil will be presented in the DAY of Judgment!
95 A.D. Rev. 20:12-15 And I/John the apostle saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 10:34:57 GMT -5
[/font] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.[/font][/b] [/quote] 'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
1) Mountain wrote: Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
[/quote] *** It seems to me many of these unbelievers had opportunity in hearing about the grace of God in their life time but they rejected so, now they are judged by their good or evil works they had done in their lives to get lesser or greater sentenced of punishment in the day of Judgment. The believers in Christ don't need to stand before God in judgment seat because they had been Redeemed and paid for their sins by the blood of the LAMB of God Jesus Christ/God.
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Post by mountain on Jan 6, 2020 11:01:23 GMT -5
[/font] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.[/font][/b] [/quote] 'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
1) Mountain wrote: Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
[/quote] *** It seems to me many of these unbelievers had opportunity in hearing about the grace of God in their life time but they rejected so, now they are judged by their good or evil works they had done in their lives to get lesser or greater sentenced of punishment in the day of Judgment. The believers in Christ don't need to stand before God in judgment seat because they had been Redeemed and paid for their sins by the blood of the LAMB of God Jesus Christ/God. [/quote] Nathan, it speaks of everyone!
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Post by intelchips on Jan 6, 2020 11:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 6, 2020 11:57:21 GMT -5
So it's what Dr Frank says the angel revealed to him, not a professional translation of the original. Attending Bible seminary and being a theologian does not teach you to be a professional translator of the Hebrew language. Don't post fake translations on here, Nathan. This is not a translation of the Dead Sea scrolls. It's a fake. No wonder he requests it be kept a secret which if I remember correctly you said was Dr Strange's request. I doubt if Dr Stranges even got his hands on the scrolls. Found in cave 3. Copper Scroll - Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_ScrollWhy is Nathan so gullible. Everyone else knows that rense is full of fake material.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 6, 2020 11:59:31 GMT -5
haha... My post is priceless... it came from the Dead Sea Scroll. You can't compare the Dead Sea Scroll to your unworthy servant book, probably on the shelves in some people home basement catching dust by now. LIES have never been priceless.
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 12:01:03 GMT -5
[/font] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.[/b] [/quote] 'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
1) Mountain wrote: Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
[/quote] *** It seems to me many of these unbelievers had opportunity in hearing about the grace of God in their life time but they rejected so, now they are judged by their good or evil works they had done in their lives to get lesser or greater sentenced of punishment in the day of Judgment. The believers in Christ don't need to stand before God in judgment seat because they had been Redeemed and paid for their sins by the blood of the LAMB of God Jesus Christ/God. [/quote] Nathan, it speaks of everyone! [/quote] *** I don't know or have all the answers. Well, this I know the believers will be spared the Second death= cast into the lake of fire with Satan, 1/3 of fallen angels, their evil children/illuminati and unbelievers. The believers already counted Saved with Faith and works after death. The believers might get more rewards at judgment day for their good works during 1000 yrs reign.[/quote]
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 13:20:21 GMT -5
haha... My post is priceless... it came from the Dead Sea Scroll. You can't compare the Dead Sea Scroll to your unworthy servant book, probably on the shelves in some people home basement catching dust by now. LIES have never been priceless. ** Right! Just like you atheists believe there is no God, Jesus, Satan and no heaven or hell. The Bible is a Myth. Talking about lies are priceless.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 6, 2020 13:49:26 GMT -5
[/font] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.[/font][/b] [/quote] 'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
1) Mountain wrote: Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
[/quote] *** It seems to me many of these unbelievers had opportunity in hearing about the grace of God in their life time but they rejected so, now they are judged by their good or evil works they had done in their lives to get lesser or greater sentenced of punishment in the day of Judgment. The believers in Christ don't need to stand before God in judgment seat because they had been Redeemed and paid for their sins by the blood of the LAMB of God Jesus Christ/God. [/quote] Believers WILL GIVE ACCOUNT OF THEIR DEEDS ON EARTH AND THEIR REASONS FOR THEM BEFORE Jesus on the Bema Seat of judgment at the rapture. (Bema seat is in the Greek and Latin bible). This is NOT ABOUT LIFE ETERNAL but about DEEDS AND MOTIVES FOR THOSE DEEDS. This is the judgment seat of rewards. Which crowns if any are ours.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 6, 2020 13:56:01 GMT -5
[/font] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.[/font][/b] [/quote] 'and they were judged every man according to their works.'
1) Mountain wrote: Are you sure you have quoted this right, Nathan? Should it not read.... 'and they were judged every man according to grace?'
[/quote] *** It seems to me many of these unbelievers had opportunity in hearing about the grace of God in their life time but they rejected so, now they are judged by their good or evil works they had done in their lives to get lesser or greater sentenced of punishment in the day of Judgment. The believers in Christ don't need to stand before God in judgment seat because they had been Redeemed and paid for their sins by the blood of the LAMB of God Jesus Christ/God. [/quote] Nathan, it speaks of everyone! [/quote] Actually it is the unbelievers because the believers have been raptured before the tribulation and any who come to Christ during the millennial reign are transfigured and or resurrected if they die during the millennial reign. and reside with Christ and the other saints in Jerusalem. However as I told Nathan, the elect/saints do get judged on their deeds in earth and the motives before the Bema seat of Christ. It’s a rewards judgment, not as life eternal because life eternal has already been given.
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Post by snow on Jan 6, 2020 14:43:27 GMT -5
In 1896 eminent scholar Nathanial Schmidt was fired from his position as professor of Semitic languages and literature at Colgate University (1888–1896). A year after taking his masters from Colgate, he was appointed professor of Semitic Languages and Literature. Though the teaching of Hebrew was his primary tasking at Colgate, he developed a two-hour course in the history of Babylonia and Assyria. He was fired because he was accused of undermining the faith of his students. Reference wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Schmidt to determine in your own mind just how much of an icon he was in the world of academic languages studies as relates to the Old Testament.. How had a man of such stature gone so far wrong as to get fired? His first mistake to was read the Sumerian Babylonia and Assyrian texts and notice that they were full of fascinating parallels to the stories in the Old Testament. His second mistake was to teach that those parallel stories were the primary source for the stories in the Old Testaments. And his final mistake was to claim that the etymology of the word Anunnaki could hold only one single meaning because nothing had proceeded it. "from the sky-to-the earth" often miss-quoted as "from-the- heavens-to the-earth-they-came" I'm sorry I doubted you all this time Nathan. It is very obvious that much of the creation story and other parts of the OT come from Sumerian writings. El was a god in the Anunnaki story. The story of Adam and Eve is also Sumerian. That's why there are two stories about how woman was formed in the OT. One says God made man and woman by breathing life into them and then it says that woman was made from Adam's rib. The Sumerian version has Lilith in it which accounts for the first making of woman by breathing in life. The Hebrews also added the version of the rib to line up more with the inequality of their patriarchy society. Lilith apparently wasn't submissive enough so Eve was needed so that women could be submissive to men like their society demanded. Yes Nathan knows about Lilith but most reading the OT don't know why there are two versions of the creation of women because they leave out Lilith's name in the first version.
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Post by snow on Jan 6, 2020 14:45:19 GMT -5
In 1896 eminent scholar Nathanial Schmidt was fired from his position as professor of Semitic languages and literature at Colgate University (1888–1896). A year after taking his masters from Colgate, he was appointed professor of Semitic Languages and Literature. Though the teaching of Hebrew was his primary tasking at Colgate, he developed a two-hour course in the history of Babylonia and Assyria. He was fired because he was accused of undermining the faith of his students. Reference wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Schmidt to determine in your own mind just how much of an icon he was in the world of academic languages studies as relates to the Old Testament.. How had a man of such stature gone so far wrong as to get fired? His first mistake to was read the Sumerian Babylonia and Assyrian texts and notice that they were full of fascinating parallels to the stories in the Old Testament. His second mistake was to teach that those parallel stories were the primary source for the stories in the Old Testaments. And his final mistake was to claim that the etymology of the word Anunnaki could hold only one single meaning because nothing had proceeded it. "from the sky-to-the earth" often miss-quoted as "from-the- heavens-to the-earth-they-came" I'm sorry I doubted you all this time Nathan. Well, many of the Bible stories in Genesis came from Sumerian, Babylonian TEXT or writings... Abraham was born in Babylon/Iraq his parents and ancestors were Sumerians, when he left Babylon he brought many of the Sumerian history of mankind, Adam, Eve, Methusala, Enoch, Noah and so on with him to the NEW LAND to preserve history of his ancestors for his children and grand, grand children.... Moses read these history and he and his wise men wrote Genesis, Exodus...
I would NOT be surprised that Abraham had heard and KNOWN about the Anunnaki= "From the sky to the earth as from the heaven to earth they came"... through reading the Sumerians text...
In Genesis chapters 18-19 TWO of Venusian Guardian angels of God from Interior planet of Venus came with Christ in their human form. Christ/God stayed and talked to Abraham, Sarah about the coming birth of their son Isaac and the two Guardian angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family.~~ What is the BRIGHT and MORNING Star? Is the planet Venus.
~ Posted 6/2018 An intelligent briefing/information was given to President Jimmy Carter that Jesus is the Visitor from Venus planet. Then the President Jimmy Carter said " So HOW do we TELL the people that? " listen at 1hr: 47 www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7D8sYpBsooFrom the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth."
"She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm A lot of the OT stories were written by scribes that were being held in captivity in Babylon. They were just rewritten a bit to align more with their patriarchy society, but otherwise the stories are pretty much the same. The flood story is also taken from Sumerian text.
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Post by snow on Jan 6, 2020 14:48:50 GMT -5
Keep in mind there are angels of light and angels of darkness and the latter will appear as the former as their main purpose is to deceive. Just like Mohammed apparently was spoken to by an angel, so too can many others have been. An angel does not automatically mean they are an angel sent by God, but may in fact be the opposite. If what an angel says does not line up exactly with what scripture says, then it most likely was not sent by God. That presumes that scripture is correct in the first place. Which we certainly can't prove. It was based on the stories that the Sumerians told so it wasn't even Hebrew in origin. How would anyone really know which angels were from God or not based on the fact the OT is mostly comprised of Sumerian mythology. Right down to the flood story in fact. Even the story of Moses found by a princess in the reeds of a river is Sumerian.
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 14:53:02 GMT -5
Well, many of the Bible stories in Genesis came from Sumerian, Babylonian TEXT or writings... Abraham was born in Babylon/Iraq his parents and ancestors were Sumerians, when he left Babylon he brought many of the Sumerian history of mankind, Adam, Eve, Methusala, Enoch, Noah and so on with him to the NEW LAND to preserve history of his ancestors for his children and grand, grand children.... Moses read these history and he and his wise men wrote Genesis, Exodus...
I would NOT be surprised that Abraham had heard and KNOWN about the Anunnaki= "From the sky to the earth as from the heaven to earth they came"... through reading the Sumerians text...
In Genesis chapters 18-19 TWO of Venusian Guardian angels of God from Interior planet of Venus came with Christ in their human form. Christ/God stayed and talked to Abraham, Sarah about the coming birth of their son Isaac and the two Guardian angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family.~~ What is the BRIGHT and MORNING Star? Is the planet Venus.
~ Posted 6/2018 An intelligent briefing/information was given to President Jimmy Carter that Jesus is the Visitor from Venus planet. Then the President Jimmy Carter said " So HOW do we TELL the people that? " listen at 1hr: 47 www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7D8sYpBsooFrom the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Two Chosen ones instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. 8. "The smoke rose into the heavenlies and did cloak the ground with destruction. Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth."
"She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning." www.rense.com/general66/cave.htm A lot of the OT stories were written by scribes that were being held in captivity in Babylon. They were just rewritten a bit to align more with their patriarchy society, but otherwise the stories are pretty much the same. The flood story is also taken from Sumerian text. ** I agree, Moses and his wise men got the story of Garden of Eden from reading Sumerian text, which Abraham brought with him when he left Babylon on the land of Ur. They just wrote down what they had read form Sumerian cuneiform clay tablets history.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 6, 2020 15:14:01 GMT -5
** I agree, Moses and his wise men got the story of Garden of Eden from reading Sumerian text, which Abraham brought with him when he left Baby on the land of Ur. They just wrote down what they had read form Sumerian cuneiform clay tablets history. BS
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Post by mountain on Jan 6, 2020 15:24:25 GMT -5
Keep in mind there are angels of light and angels of darkness and the latter will appear as the former as their main purpose is to deceive. Just like Mohammed apparently was spoken to by an angel, so too can many others have been. An angel does not automatically mean they are an angel sent by God, but may in fact be the opposite. If what an angel says does not line up exactly with what scripture says, then it most likely was not sent by God. That presumes that scripture is correct in the first place. Which we certainly can't prove. It was based on the stories that the Sumerians told so it wasn't even Hebrew in origin. How would anyone really know which angels were from God or not based on the fact the OT is mostly comprised of Sumerian mythology. Right down to the flood story in fact. Even the story of Moses found by a princess in the reeds of a river is Sumerian. ' The Sumerian texts/accounts are 100% authentic. They tell exactly how it was!' (Dr. Stranges 19 whenever!)
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Post by Annan on Jan 6, 2020 16:58:42 GMT -5
LIES have never been priceless. ** Right! Just like you atheists believe there is no God, Jesus, Satan and no heaven or hell. The Bible is a Myth. Talking about lies are priceless. Unless you can prove the Bible, it's a myth.
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Post by nathan on Jan 6, 2020 17:08:21 GMT -5
** Right! Just like you atheists believe there is no God, Jesus, Satan and no heaven or hell. The Bible is a Myth. Talking about lies are priceless. Unless you can prove the Bible, it's a myth.** Well, you atheists can continue believe the Bible is a myth, and God, Jesus are our own imagination but we/believers KNOW God's touch and hands in our own lives. So, we must diagree with you atheists. There is no need to prove to anyone, you either have Faith or you don't.
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