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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 21:45:25 GMT -5
Are you sure he's ok with people posting his plan online? Seems like something you ought to run past him first. Common courtesy. “Are you sure he's ok with people posting his plan online?” Thanks for asking. The reply depends upon who you refer to as " he's" and “ his” - so I'll cover both obvious possibilities, “ Thirdmill's” and “ His" - “ His” first; “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. “
Excerpt Promote Thirdmill
Everyone can help prepare Christian leaders to extend the Kingdom of God throughout the world by providing biblical education to the world for free. Here are some ways you can help promote our work. Distribution An extensive network distributes our biblical education to Christian leaders around the world. Please help us expand our network by telling others about our ministry or by helping us to distribute materials. Visit our distribution page to obtain information packets on our ministry and materials for distribution. thirdmill.org/promote/ Did these thirdmill folks ask him? Reason I'm wondering - I'm starting to get the impression that there is a breakdown in communication between upper management and the factory floor. It's not that nobody is trying... it's more like the workers unionized, formed hundreds of smaller LLCs, and all make different "better" versions of the same product using the parent company's logo.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 11, 2019 23:07:22 GMT -5
I don't see you or anyone else here as an "enemy," gratu.
I am sorry that you see anyone as an "enemy" just because people present their views on his forum.
I had thought that was the reason for such forums.
Awww I nowww - but who says I "see anyone as an "enemy"" -- YOU do, right here - on WHAT evidence or authority (besides your obvious self-righteousness) I haven't a clue. According to your post, -the one that I was answering, -you must be seeing other people as "enemies."
Because you stated that I "should quit" using "ad hominem against your (my) enemies'"
So, you are apparently seeing "enemies" in people if they want to debate an issue.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 11, 2019 23:47:54 GMT -5
"Because you stated that I "should quit" using "ad hominem against your (my) enemies'"" read it again sam - I have not used the word "enemy" (or its derivatives) on here for almost, if not as long as I have posted on this board. So YOU read "enemy" where it isn't - maybe you would do well to see a psychiatrist regarding obsession against gratu because your ad hominem has backfired on you all over again. Gratu, How can you claim that you "'have not used the word "enemy" (or its derivatives) on here for almost, if not as long as I have posted on this board,"
When I just supplied the post where you indeed HAD "used" the word "enemies" in that very recent post?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2019 2:04:41 GMT -5
Gratu, How can you claim that you "'have not used the word "enemy" (or its derivatives) on here for almost, if not as long as I have posted on this board,"
When I just supplied the post where you indeed HAD "used" the word "enemies" in that very recent post? THIS doesn't evenb deserve this much of a reply. Go read mine again, sam - because the "recent post" you just supplied QUOTES YOU -- "Awww I nowww - but who says I "see anyone as an "enemy"" -- YOU do, right here “ And THIS is not a quotation of my words- " ad hominem against your (my) enemies'" - IF you like, go hunt up MINE and read it again sam - if you would rather not bother hunting up MINE, don't bother because I didn't post anything for your eyes anyway - even this reply is posted for the eyes of visitors who might like to see a former 2x2 STILL practicing a 2x2 type dum act AFTER being told she has read it WRONGLY. www.definitions.net/definition/emeny Gratue, - indeed I feel sorry for anyone, -"visitors" or anyone else, -to try to figure out what you actually mean by how you word your posts.
I do know that I am getting rather tired of trying.
So, for now, I will just say, "Adios," "Au revoir," "Arrivederci," or "Auf Wiedersehen."
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2019 3:07:33 GMT -5
Ah - finally - you got the message that I post NOTHING for YOUR eyes - ever since I abandoned the thread I started that invited former 2x2 atheists (etc.) to show their stuff, nearly a year ago. I'm left wondering if you can read much of anything at all without a sledge hammer being incorporated into the text. Oh the irony !!! So how many "visitors" have you been able to convert to your "beliefs" @gratu ? Strange that none seem to be responding ....!
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Post by snow on Nov 12, 2019 13:09:55 GMT -5
The question is one of the dummest questions I have ever heard asked of a believer, but I am not going to waste my time writing four hours of answer – not for any of you - and certainly not when I can post links to that detailed ANSWER. Most unbelievers already know that believers believe there is only one God – but snow has to TRY to waste my time answering such stupid question aimed at 'comparing' all her gods to mine – and pound it to death on top of that act, only to be joined by two more of the TMB demolition team – to beat it even more than dead. The only reason that I wasted any of my time answering snow's question was for VISITORS to this board who MIGHT be confused by the TMB demo teams' dum act. Yes I know every religion thinks their God is the right one. But there are few things that don't match up. Many religions pray to their God and they say that their God answers their prayers. So I think it's a very good question to ask. Which God is the right God? You'd think it would be important to theists to get it right and in order to make an informed decision you need to know about other Gods and religions attached to these Gods. What if you are worshiping the wrong God? Also, if all gods seem to answer their members prayers could it be it's not gods answering prayers but just life playing out as life does? Sometimes you get what you want and sometimes you don't?
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Post by snow on Nov 12, 2019 13:12:49 GMT -5
Gratu, I think you aren't understanding that there have been many "gods" created though out the history of mankind.
It isn't that snow is "comparing" all of her gods to your god; -as you seem to think.
She was telling you from what we know about the history of humanity is that people have created a multitude gods and actually a few goddesses, -though out their history.
Therefore, in the eons of history Christianity is actually the new the kid on the block, -so why do you or anyone else for that matter -think that the "Christian god is the only CORRECT god instead of any of the multiple 'other creator Gods humanity has worshiped?"
I don't think YOU can rewrite it for snow at this late time – and certainly not by your usual AD HOMINEM junk played on me in this post. Snow - “ There are many Gods and I imagine that you critically examine things about other Gods and their books, so why not your own? “ (erroneously assumes I have not “critically” examined my own) gratu – reply " There are many Gods..." I'm not going to wasre my time hunting for it, but if I recall correctly YOU have claimed that you are an atheist previously -- now you show yourself to be a polytheist - WHAT do you intend to be next week - that is not a question. And THAT is as much of my time I am going to waste replying to yoiurs presently. Snow - “ I am an atheist. But I am a well read atheist and from my reading I have learned that there have been many Gods worshiped over the centuries. All that proves is that mankind has a propensity for inventing many Gods and making those Gods believe what they believe. Can you tell me why your God is any different from any other God that has existed in mankind's minds? “ ( immediately distancing herself from her initial polytheism, "There are many Gods...") gratu – reply – (i.e., the answer to her question) “Can you tell me why your God is any different from any other God ...” Yup. thirdmill.org/seminary/course.asp/vs/apc thirdmill.org/seminary/course.asp/vs/god Lesson 2: How God Is Different download1.thirdmill.org/en/750main64b/WeBelieveInGod.Lesson2.English.mp4 Now you're back to being an atheist – that didn't even wait til next week. LOL my pointing out there are many gods men have invented doesn't make me a polytheist. It is just a fact that there have been many gods that mankind has worshiped and lots of religions attached to these various gods.
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Post by snow on Nov 12, 2019 13:15:45 GMT -5
"Because you stated that I "should quit" using "ad hominem against your (my) enemies'"" read it again sam - I have not used the word "enemy" (or its derivatives) on here for almost, if not as long as I have posted on this board. So YOU read "enemy" where it isn't - maybe you would do well to see a psychiatrist regarding obsession against gratu because your ad hominem has backfired on you all over again. Gratu, How can you claim that you "'have not used the word "enemy" (or its derivatives) on here for almost, if not as long as I have posted on this board,"
When I just supplied the post where you indeed HAD "used" the word "enemies" in that very recent post?Trump uses the same techniques. He states he will get Mexico to build the wall then when Mexico laughs at him and says no way, he says he never said that he'd get mexico to pay for the wall, but rather that he would make a good trade deal with Mexico. It's blatantly obvious what he wrote yet he still denies it (gratu I mean).
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Post by rational on Nov 12, 2019 18:32:39 GMT -5
Ah - finally - you got the message that I post NOTHING... Most knew this long ago.
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Post by rational on Nov 12, 2019 19:00:27 GMT -5
I didn’t see the one asking if Eve and Adam had belly buttons Did Adam and Eve Have Navels?: Debunking PseudoscienceMartin Gardner
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 12, 2019 20:32:05 GMT -5
Trump uses the same techniques. He states he will get Mexico to build the wall then when Mexico laughs at him and says no way, he says he never said that he'd get mexico to pay for the wall, but rather that he would make a good trade deal with Mexico. It's blatantly obvious what he wrote yet he still denies it (gratu I mean). Ya, well you are putting on a great show of the pot calling the kettle black, just as 2x2s often do. It was YOU who first asserted “There are many gods,” displaying YOUR polytheism; and immediately upon being called out on Polytheism TRYING to blame YOUR statement on ancient people AND reclaim your fake atheism without one word regarding all their fake gods not ever existing. When you decide WHAT your actual religion is, you might stick to it – I would suggest the easiest religion for you with your situational-beliefs would be the mix-mash religion of “The New Age” That way you can swing from one contradicting belief to the other without contradicting your religion. But YOU have portrayed yourself as both a fake atheist and a fake polytheist on this thread in full public view within two of your posts – and far too many quotes of yours exist now for you to cover up by deleting those posts. So visitors can SEE you playing 2x2 style pot calling the kettle black in this post too.. @gratu do you actually read posts before you respond ? snow has explained to you above why she asked you the question, but you don't seem to be able to comprehend that. Maybe all the "invited visitors" are starting to wonder the same thing and that is why they don't respond !!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 21:38:16 GMT -5
I didn’t see the one asking if Eve and Adam had belly buttons Did Adam and Eve Have Navels?: Debunking PseudoscienceMartin Gardnerdid the ameoba you sprung from have a navel?
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Post by rational on Nov 12, 2019 22:03:10 GMT -5
Did Adam and Eve Have Navels?: Debunking PseudoscienceMartin Gardner did the ameoba[SIC] you sprung from have a navel? 8-) I wasn't aware that amoebas had umbilical cords.
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Post by rational on Nov 12, 2019 22:10:24 GMT -5
And if anyone who posts on here has a Phd on NOTHING, it would be you - right? Maybe that is why you pompously wrote pages and pages about NOTHING. After all, the very basis of your religion is NOTHING that sudden;ly 'exploded' - ah huh ah huh - it did, it did -- it did.. The pages I wrote were in response to your request to point out the errors in the crap links you were posting. Little did I realize that you were parroting/plagiarizing without actually understanding. And once again you brilliantly display your lack of knowledge/understanding of the big bang theory. Well done.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 12, 2019 22:22:00 GMT -5
Did Adam and Eve Have Navels?: Debunking PseudoscienceMartin Gardner did the ameoba you sprung from have a navel? Since a person cant spring directly from an amoeba, -the answer would be no. But considering whether an amoeba has a "navel" or not, -would depends on the description of "navel" I suppose. One might try to claim so but it would stretching a point somewhat. How Does the Amoeba Reproduce? By Jenny Green Amoebas are tiny, single-celled organisms that live in moist conditions, such as fresh and salt water, soil, and within animals. They have a clear outer membrane and an inner grainy mass, or cytoplasm, containing the cells' inner structures. These are called organelles. Each amoeba contains one or more nuclei, according to its species. Amoeba reproduce asexually.
Asexual Reproduction
Unlike higher forms of life, amoebas do not need another individual's genetic material to reproduce. The nucleus of each cell contains the amoeba's genetic material. First, the genetic material replicates. Then the nucleus divides. This is called mitosis. Finally, the cytoplasm and outer membrane split in two. Each half contains a nucleus. The separate halves pull apart. Each new cell contains genetic material that is identical to the original. This process is called binary fission.
Midwife Amoebas
The final stage of amoeba reproduction is the point at which there is a narrow strip of material joining the two new cells. Scientists at the Weizmann Institute studying one type of amoeba found that sometimes the process stops at this stage. They were surprised to discover that often in this scenario, a third cell would come to help by forcing between the two cells, causing the tether to break.
I suppose one could try to claim that when that "tether" breaks it might leave behind something akin to a "navel," but even if it does, it would need to be a "navel" for each individual since it isn't a mother/child separation but rather two of the same organism just separating into two.
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2019 9:30:23 GMT -5
The pages I wrote were in response to your request to point out the errors in the crap links you were posting. Little did I realize that you were parroting/plagiarizing without actually understanding. And once again you brilliantly display your lack of knowledge/understanding of the big bang theory. Well done. Awwwww I nowwwww - no doubt that would be why you are presently contemplating Adam`s `navel.`Such important NOTHING to babble about to be sure. No, since there was no Adam the question is moot. It is the christians that spend time debating the absence or presence of navels as well as topics like "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin".Perhaps if you understood what the real questions were behind those two questions you would not consider them to be 'NOTHING to babble about'. It is becoming clearer and clearer that while you pay lip-service to to your beliefs that anything beyond that is a great void. And this coming from someone who has publicly stated that the theyre were too many words and were too long and that to you the text was gibberish. Seems like you have a firm foundation upon which to build your objective opinion.
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2019 9:32:51 GMT -5
I suppose one could try to claim that when that "tether" breaks it might leave behind something akin to a "navel," but even if it does, it would need to be a "navel" for each individual since it isn't a mother/child separation but rather two of the same organism just separating into two.
Forming scar tissue on a one celled organism sounds like a tough assignment!
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2019 13:31:20 GMT -5
No, since there was no Adam the question is moot. It is the christians that spend time debating the absence or presence of navels as well as topics like "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin".Perhaps if you understood what the real questions were behind those two questions you would not consider them to be 'NOTHING to babble about'. It is becoming clearer and clearer that while you pay lip-service to to your beliefs that anything beyond that is a great void. And this coming from someone who has publicly stated that there were too many words and were too long and that to you the text was gibberish. Seems like you have a firm foundation upon which to build your objective opinion. Awww I noowww – that was only one of your pages ages ago on the thread that invited former 2x2 atheists (etc.) to show their stuff -- it surely took long enough for you to admit that you wrote all that gibberish about NOTHING. No wonder it was gibberish. I guess that is what you would call a 'worker tactic'. You called the text I wrote 'gibberish' because, if I recall correctly, you considered the responses to be "above your pay grade". And now you switch to say what I wrote was gibberish about nothing. This seems to be a harsh comment to make just because you were not familiar with the topic and did not understand the work being done in that field of study. And when the same information was rewritten at about a 7 th grade level you stated you had not read the response. Much of the above could have been avoided had you not presented plagiarized ideas of Lisle as your own or at least given Lisle credit instead of leading readers to believe that you understood the subject matter.
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2019 14:34:41 GMT -5
Trump uses the same techniques. He states he will get Mexico to build the wall then when Mexico laughs at him and says no way, he says he never said that he'd get mexico to pay for the wall, but rather that he would make a good trade deal with Mexico. It's blatantly obvious what he wrote yet he still denies it (gratu I mean). Ya, well you are putting on a great show of the pot calling the kettle black, just as 2x2s often do. It was YOU who first asserted “There are many gods,” displaying YOUR polytheism; and immediately upon being called out on Polytheism TRYING to blame YOUR statement on ancient people AND reclaim your fake atheism without one word regarding all their fake gods not ever existing. When you decide WHAT your actual religion is, you might stick to it – I would suggest the easiest religion for you with your situational-beliefs would be the mix-mash religion of “The New Age” That way you can swing from one contradicting belief to the other without contradicting your religion. But YOU have portrayed yourself as both a fake atheist and a fake polytheist on this thread in full public view within two of your posts – and far too many quotes of yours exist now for you to cover up by deleting those posts. So visitors can SEE you playing 2x2 style pot calling the kettle black in this post too.. How is acknowledging that there have been many gods throughout history make me a polytheist? That makes no sense.
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Post by rational on Nov 13, 2019 15:55:04 GMT -5
How is acknowledging that there have been many gods throughout history make me a polytheist? That makes no sense. Last REPEAT (among repeats) “Ya, well you are putting on a great show of the pot calling the kettle black, just as 2x2s often do. It was YOU who first asserted “There are many gods,” displaying YOUR polytheism; and immediately upon being called out on Polytheism TRYING to blame YOUR statement on ancient people AND reclaim your fake atheism without one word regarding all their fake gods not ever existing. “ The original claims to be that over the last 100,000 years humans have created hundreds of gods. I doubt that snow believes any of them are real. I doubt that even a confirmed theist like yourself does not believe in the vast majority of the gods but you would be hard pressed to declare that humans did not create them. Acknowledging they were human creations does not mean anyone believes much in the same way people read children's stories about unicorns to children but do not actually believe the unicorns exist. From Zeus to Poseidon to Amun-Ra, Mut, Osiris, Anubis, and on to Vanir. Odin, Frigg, Thor, and Loki. Being an atheist is it really neccessary for snow to once again declare that she is an atheist? It is clear that you made a mistake when you parsed snow's post and now are flailing in an attempt to avoid admitting you made another error.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Nov 13, 2019 16:05:05 GMT -5
Ya, well you are putting on a great show of the pot calling the kettle black, just as 2x2s often do. It was YOU who first asserted “There are many gods,” displaying YOUR polytheism; and immediately upon being called out on Polytheism TRYING to blame YOUR statement on ancient people AND reclaim your fake atheism without one word regarding all their fake gods not ever existing. When you decide WHAT your actual religion is, you might stick to it – I would suggest the easiest religion for you with your situational-beliefs would be the mix-mash religion of “The New Age” That way you can swing from one contradicting belief to the other without contradicting your religion. But YOU have portrayed yourself as both a fake atheist and a fake polytheist on this thread in full public view within two of your posts – and far too many quotes of yours exist now for you to cover up by deleting those posts. So visitors can SEE you playing 2x2 style pot calling the kettle black in this post too.. How is acknowledging that there have been many gods throughout history make me a polytheist? That makes no sense. I wondered that too and can only think that there is some very warped thinking going on in Gratus head.
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2019 16:51:58 GMT -5
How is acknowledging that there have been many gods throughout history make me a polytheist? That makes no sense. I wondered that too and can only think that there is some very warped thinking going on in Gratus head. He definitely has an unique way of processing things.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2019 18:03:37 GMT -5
The original claims to be that over the last 100,000 years humans have created hundreds of gods. I doubt that snow believes any of them are real. I doubt that even a confirmed theist like yourself does not believe in the vast majority of the gods but you would be hard pressed to declare that humans did not create them. Acknowledging they were human creations does not mean anyone believes much in the same way people read children's stories about unicorns to children but do not actually believe the unicorns exist. From Zeus to Poseidon to Amun-Ra, Mut, Osiris, Anubis, and on to Vanir. Odin, Frigg, Thor, and Loki. Being an atheist is it really neccessary for snow to once again declare that she is an atheist? It is clear that you made a mistake when you parsed snow 's post and now are flailing in an attempt to avoid admitting you made another error. Awww I nowww your continuing to write nothing about nothing and that's supposedly 'my mistake' too according to your last post. But now the tip of the TMB gang bang appears - as if THAT can change what snow clearly wrote - just more nothing about nothing. Thanks for keeping this thread at top of page one over nothing. @gratu what does "Awww I nowww " mean ?
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Post by intelchips on Nov 13, 2019 18:18:13 GMT -5
The quality of being trustworthy or of performing consistently well is not to be found in or around the Bible. If it were then when someone tells you that when they die they will return within the generation of the people being spoken too it would be a fact.
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2019 18:46:28 GMT -5
Awww I nowww your continuing to write nothing about nothing and that's supposedly 'my mistake' too according to your last post. But now the tip of the TMB gang bang appears - as if THAT can change what snow clearly wrote - just more nothing about nothing. Thanks for keeping this thread at top of page one over nothing. @gratu what does "Awww I nowww " mean ? I think he's trying to say, "Awww I knowww"
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Post by snow on Nov 13, 2019 18:48:11 GMT -5
The quality of being trustworthy or of performing consistently well is not to be found in or around the Bible. If it were then when someone tells you that when they die they will return within the generation of the people being spoken too it would be a fact. He's a little off schedule.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 13, 2019 22:50:19 GMT -5
Awww I down't nowww. According to rational and his “most” it is “NOTHING.” And with all the posts about "NOTHING" that are showing up in response to "NOTHING", I am pleased that all of rational's "most" team are revealing themselves. Thanks for bumping this thread up top again, but maybe next time you have such an intellectual post, you might wait until the thread needs to be bumped back up top to post it. Mmm maybe if you want the "invited visitors" to take you serious you could spell "know" correctly @gratu !!!!
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 14, 2019 1:06:15 GMT -5
Ya, well you are putting on a great show of the pot calling the kettle black, just as 2x2s often do. It was YOU who first asserted “There are many gods,” displaying YOUR polytheism; and immediately upon being called out on Polytheism TRYING to blame YOUR statement on ancient people AND reclaim your fake atheism without one word regarding all their fake gods not ever existing. When you decide WHAT your actual religion is, you might stick to it – I would suggest the easiest religion for you with your situational-beliefs would be the mix-mash religion of “The New Age” That way you can swing from one contradicting belief to the other without contradicting your religion. But YOU have portrayed yourself as both a fake atheist and a fake polytheist on this thread in full public view within two of your posts – and far too many quotes of yours exist now for you to cover up by deleting those posts. So visitors can SEE you playing 2x2 style pot calling the kettle black in this post too.. How is acknowledging that there have been many gods throughout history make me a polytheist? That makes no sense. Don't say anything about the Mormons -- someone will think you're a Mormon.
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