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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 10, 2019 19:12:13 GMT -5
Why don't you start you own page @gratu ? That way you can control who posts or sees it !!!!!
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Post by rational on Oct 11, 2019 10:36:24 GMT -5
"Why don't you start you own page gratu ? That way you can control who posts or sees it !!!!!" I don't know how to start more than a thread, and ton't need to even if that were possible. It is something that an experienced user like yourself could easily do. Well, once again, god was wrong. No one is attacking you. It is the erroneous information you are posting that is being corrected/questioned. Sounds like you have it ass figured out.
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Post by rational on Oct 11, 2019 10:44:28 GMT -5
This series was posted for visiting 2x2s and this second posting of the series is again for 2x2s without the mess of counter arguments in between the sessions. Enjoy Bible teaching like you never heard from workers. Why are you afraid of the counter arguments? Don't you want to present "your readers" with a discussion that is as complete and accurate as possible? You claim that the workers hid the truth in their presentations. Said it was wrong. And here you are hiding facts. Ahh - the long reach of the workers! You seem to be less free than you think...
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Post by snow on Oct 11, 2019 13:25:04 GMT -5
This series was posted for visiting 2x2s and this second posting of the series is again for 2x2s without the mess of counter arguments in between the sessions. Enjoy Bible teaching like you never heard from workers. Why are you afraid of the counter arguments? Don't you want to present "your readers" with a discussion that is as complete and accurate as possible? You claim that the workers hid the truth in their presentations. Said it was wrong. And here you are hiding facts. Ahh - the long reach of the workers! You seem to be less free than you think... Because there are no verifiable, arguments. You just have to take it whole cloth and believe it's true. If you start discussing it rationally it starts to break down and look rather unlikely?
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 11, 2019 19:38:58 GMT -5
Because there are no verifiable, arguments. You just have to take it whole cloth and believe it's true. If you start discussing it rationally it starts to break down and look rather unlikely? Na - rational is just continuing to play dum dum, writing his own tale of my supposed 'fear' of counter arguments to feed your carry on in his dum dum as if you are writing my answer for me while I just ignored rational's dum dum. Well that comment makes so much sense @gratu !!! "Dum dum" sounds like something a 6 year old would say !!
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 11, 2019 19:55:15 GMT -5
Na - rational is just continuing to play dum dum, writing his own tale of my supposed 'fear' of counter arguments to feed your carry on in his dum dum as if you are writing my answer for me while I just ignored rational's dum dum. Well that comment makes so much sense @gratu !!! "Dum dum" sounds like something a 6 year old would say !! Sure does, "sound like something a 6 year old would say !!"
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Post by rational on Oct 11, 2019 22:27:03 GMT -5
Na - rational is just continuing to play dum dum, writing his own tale of my supposed 'fear' of counter arguments to feed your carry on in his dum dum as if you are writing my answer for me while I just ignored rational's dum dum. Well that comment makes so much sense @gratu !!! "Dum dum" sounds like something a 6 year old would say !! When it is clear that the poster does not want any discussion presented regarding their posts it is also clear tat they know the discussion will possibly (probably) point out the fact that the posts are deeply flawed. Of course, that is not the way a discussion board works. I just heard Trump say that his plan is to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the moon. Is there any chance that @gratu could be Trump?
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Post by rational on Oct 11, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
When it is clear that the poster does not want any discussion presented regarding their posts it is also clear tat they know the discussion will possibly (probably) point out the fact that the posts are deeply flawed. Of course, that is not the way a discussion board works. I just heard Trump say that his plan is to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the moon. Is there any chance that @gratu could be Trump? h huh - still building your "fear" straw man just as I predicted - while I previously gave two reasons that you and any others should feel free to "post away" as you please, now that continuity the series cannot be disrupted by anyone. No point in expecting an answer from you. But I will ask two questions: 1) Why would you not want other views included with the links you post? Do you fear that the readers will read other sources that are based on data? 2) Can you explain where you received the training you mentioned in the following post: “Of course in that case the review would be by a single person based on their interpretation of the scripture.” Oh really – what about the scientists who expound science from a Biblical perspective right in the videos/articles? And I am trained in Biblical exegesis myself, so there are at least two reviewing every bit of it by Scripture, and several other skilled Bible believers involved with each viseo production/presentation as well as the presentation of every written article I have linked. Thanks in advance.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 12, 2019 4:49:56 GMT -5
No point in expecting an answer from you. But I will ask two questions: 1) Why would you not want other views included with the links you post? Do you fear that the readers will read other sources that are based on data? 2) Can you explain where you received the training you mentioned in the following post: Thanks in advance. You're welcome in advance Repeat, 1. Ah huh - still building your "fear" straw man just as I predicted - while I previously gave two reasons that you and any others should feel free to "post away" as you please, now that continuity the series cannot be disrupted by anyone. That's strange.
I would think that you would be glad to share with us where you studied for Biblical exegesis, -so we could also learn.
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Post by rational on Oct 12, 2019 10:36:14 GMT -5
You're welcome in advance Repeat, 1. Ah huh - still building your "fear" straw man just as I predicted - while I previously gave two reasons that you and any others should feel free to "post away" as you please, now that continuity the series cannot be disrupted by anyone. That's strange.
I would think that you would be glad to share with us where you studied for Biblical exegesis, -so we could also learn.I think there is learning going on in spite of it all.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 12, 2019 11:42:04 GMT -5
Well that comment makes so much sense @gratu !!! "Dum dum" sounds like something a 6 year old would say !! When it is clear that the poster does not want any discussion presented regarding their posts it is also clear tat they know the discussion will possibly (probably) point out the fact that the posts are deeply flawed. Of course, that is not the way a discussion board works. I just heard Trump say that his plan is to defeat socialism and put a man on the face of the moon. Is there any chance that Gratu could be Trump? No, he’s not Trump. I don’t think Trump cares about 2x2s at all. Normally I’d agree with you, Rat. However it’s plain that Gratu is just trying to open up another Christian viewpoint for present day 2x2s. He’s found that a few do look and read on aTMB at times. He doesn’t seem to care if even the present day 2x2s post on this thread as much as just encouraging them to read his offerings.
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Post by snow on Oct 12, 2019 12:46:58 GMT -5
Because there are no verifiable, arguments. You just have to take it whole cloth and believe it's true. If you start discussing it rationally it starts to break down and look rather unlikely? Na - rational is just continuing to play dum dum, writing his own tale of my supposed 'fear' of counter arguments to feed your carry on in his dum dum as if you are writing my answer for me while I just ignored rational's dum dum. gratu, Rational is anything but dumb.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 14, 2019 5:06:30 GMT -5
"gratu, Rational is anything but dumb." In case you failed to notice yet, I did not say he is "dumb." (if he were mute it would not show on here because he never shuts up on here, and always writing in uncommon lingo, just like some 2x2s I knew did to impress someone, even snowmen, if that was their only LISTENING 'audience.' I'm sorry that you are unable to understand the Rational's "lingo.
Rational's "lingo" is quite "rational" and understandable for those of us whose standard for gaining knowledge about anything is to rely on an honest realistic approach.
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Post by snow on Oct 14, 2019 13:10:31 GMT -5
"gratu, Rational is anything but dumb." In case you failed to notice yet, I did not say he is "dumb." (if he were mute it would not show on here because he never shuts up on here, and always writing in uncommon lingo, just like some 2x2s I knew did to impress someone, even snowmen, if that was their only LISTENING 'audience.') You call him dum dum. So I will rephrase that to meet your requirements. Rational is not a 'dum dum'
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 14, 2019 15:05:48 GMT -5
"Rational is not a 'dum dum'" I know that, but every so often he plays good ol 2x2 type dum dum. Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. BS! You are wrong on two levels.
1. You POSTED your comment. Expect it to be answered!
2. If anyone is acting dum dum, -it appears to be yourself.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 14, 2019 19:58:51 GMT -5
BS! You are wrong on two levels.
1. You POSTED your comment. Expect it to be answered!
2. If anyone is acting dum dum, -it appears to be yourself. Well, you demostrate that I was not wrong to expect YOU to answer an unfinnish post. And your number 2 is just YOUR dum dum opinion, also fully expected from you. So YOU were wrong in both your counts, which are NOT "levels" but just ad hominem, as usual from you. Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. Keep right on posting your incomplete half-baked posts to your heart's content.
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 15, 2019 1:02:25 GMT -5
BS! You are wrong on two levels.
1. You POSTED your comment. Expect it to be answered!
2. If anyone is acting dum dum, -it appears to be yourself. Well, you demostrate that I was not wrong to expect YOU to answer an unfinnish post. And your number 2 is just YOUR dum dum opinion, also fully expected from you. So YOU were wrong in both your counts, which are NOT "levels" but just ad hominem, as usual from you. Edit 2 - "Keep right on posting your incomplete half-baked posts to your heart's content. " I had and continue to have no inclination of "posting incomplete half-baked posts," especially with former 2x2, self-displaying dum dums on here. Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. Are you sure you don't have control issues @gratu ? Or is it that you don't understand how boards like this work ? You seem to be doing the very thing you judge others (2x2s) of doing!!
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Post by rational on Oct 15, 2019 10:06:37 GMT -5
"I'm sorry that you are unable to understand the Rational's "lingo. " Ya, I know you're "sorry" - you do appear to be "honest" too. But he doesn't write for commoners and most of the viewers I know reading on here will make as much effort to understand his lingo as I have. A quick look at the Flesch-Kincaid grade level evaluator set the grade of most of my posts between grade 7 and grade 11. That seemed safe to me since access to proboards is restricted to those under 13. So, it appears, I am writing to the level of the youngest people who should be accessing this message board. I assumed that @gratu had a physical age of at least 13. Emotional/psychological age is still out for determination.I write as clearly and directly as I can for anyone who wants to read. I made reference to a well known story from the bible that, it seems, many people recognized. You were upset the last time you missed the parady biblical quote and now that you missed the reference to Daniel. I think the real sticking point is that in both cases atheists pointed out your error. I have never claimed I disgarded the bible. I believe it is a book of stories that were a part of human history. Like Tom Sawyer or A Tale of Two Cities the stories are wound around some true events and provide a look at how people of the time of the writing looked at the events. And, for people who like to read at grade level there is the wonderful use of words. Consider the opening from Dickens: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair. And it holds up right from that opening sentence to the final paragraphs: I see that child who lay upon her bosom and who bore my name, a man winning his way up in that path of life which once was mine. I see him winning it so well, that my name is made illustrious there by the light of his. . . . It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known. Whereas the bible may contain helpful and comforting verses like: The Lord your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing.
or Let us go hand in hand, not one before another.
or even
The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble. But it just doesn't have the ring of Dickens. To be fair I would have to include: Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth— for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the young women love you! Take me away with you—let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers.
Verses that adolescents for decades have read and pondered exactly what was going to happen in his chambers.... And from where do you think the bible got its ethics? Consider the "Golden Rule" - it predates Jesus by at least 2,000 years. Well, that is the belief that you claim. You just can't help yourself, can you. You must have read that "God helps those who help themselves." Maybe you can get some help. Sorry, I missed this bit. Copied it before I got this far...
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Post by snow on Oct 15, 2019 14:05:36 GMT -5
"Rational is not a 'dum dum'" I know that, but every so often he plays good ol 2x2 type dum dum, which is to speak uncommon lingo that goes right over the heads of most 2x2s but self-flatters. And it is common in 2x2 style dum dum that such self-flattering 2x2s do gather faithful admirers - at least until such actors wear out their welcome with their dum dum admirers. Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. I think anyone that was born and raised in the group all have some aspects of behavior and ways of interacting that relate to the 2x2. We may not be conscious of it sometimes, but it's bound to be there in all of us from time to time. It's part of our history growing up. I see it in you sometimes also. I think it's inevitable.
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Post by snow on Oct 15, 2019 14:07:37 GMT -5
BS! You are wrong on two levels.
1. You POSTED your comment. Expect it to be answered!
2. If anyone is acting dum dum, -it appears to be yourself. Well, you demostrate that I was not wrong to expect YOU to answer an unfinnish post. And your number 2 is just YOUR dum dum opinion, also fully expected from you. So YOU were wrong in both your counts, which are NOT "levels" but just ad hominem, as usual from you. Edit 2 - "Keep right on posting your incomplete half-baked posts to your heart's content. " I had and continue to have no inclination of "posting incomplete half-baked posts," especially with former 2x2 atheist/evolutionist 2x2 style dum dum players on here. Edit 3 - "Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. Sorry, I missed this bit. Copied it before I got this far..." and " You were upset..." (STILL building your straw man) Yup, "sorry" instead of more accurate "blind," after crowing with the rest of the crows on here about NOT knowing when my posts are finished - so you were told this post was not "finnish" (humor) and you are "sorry" you "missed" that - ah huh, ah huh ah huh ,,,...and I did not use English for the word "copy" in that request either - more humor - but obviously you understood the request well enough to be sooo "sorry" that you "missed" it supposedly untill you got a whole useless (funny) page written - I'm still laughing. Did you get writer's cramp writing that LONG post in which you are crowing again about catching one who did not expect you to use any Bible text in an otherwise Bibleless context and obviously (by my laughing reply) considered your whole post FUNNY. Your crowing on your superior knowledge of science (the study of God's creation) and your crowing on your superior knowledge of the Bible (God's word) leaves you with NO excuse for being an atheist. So THAT must be a DETERMINED (stubborn) decision made in spite of your superior knowledge of God. I can hardly think of a better showing of a reprobate mind - i.e., good ol 2x2 style dum dum ("fool"), just as God foretold of you. Edit - please don't نسخ- i ain't finnish yet. Why is it that you can't ever post anything without being demeaning to the person you are answering? I don't understand why you can't just have a conversation with people without putting them down?
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Post by rational on Oct 15, 2019 15:25:59 GMT -5
"Rational is not a 'dum dum'" I know that, but every so often he plays good ol 2x2 type dum dum, which is to speak uncommon lingo that goes right over the heads of most 2x2s but self-flatters. And it is common in 2x2 style dum dum that such self-flattering 2x2s do gather faithful admirers - at least until such actors wear out their welcome with their dum dum admirers. I taught high school for a number of years and have heard every derogatory term you have used so far and probably every derogatory term you can even think of. After watching and listening to the students exchange their 'pleasantries' I could see that the name calling and derogatory remarks reviled much more about person delivering the insults than the target of the insults. I will say the students were a lot more creative than anything I have read here. Remember, what you consider 'uncommon lingo' evaluates to a 7 th to 11 th grade reading level. I wonder if it is the lingo or simply that you do not like nor agree with what is posted. In general, your creationist links do not hold up well in the face of verifiable facts.
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Post by rational on Oct 15, 2019 16:01:51 GMT -5
Well, you demostrate that I was not wrong to expect YOU to answer an unfinnish post. And your number 2 is just YOUR dum dum opinion, also fully expected from you. So YOU were wrong in both your counts, which are NOT "levels" but just ad hominem, as usual from you. Edit 2 - "Keep right on posting your incomplete half-baked posts to your heart's content. " I had and continue to have no inclination of "posting incomplete half-baked posts," especially with former 2x2 atheist/evolutionist 2x2 style dum dum players on here. Your actions indicate that you are inclined to post incomplete half-baked posts. Action speak louder than words. Sarcasm is often missed in text communications. At least I tried. I don't remember ever saying I cared whether or not your posts were complete or not. If I get time to reply I reply to the posts that have been posted. Your clownish actions regarding people responding to your posts before you have completed them seem to make no difference to people responding. Perhaps you are like Pagliacci, laughing on the outside but not so much on the inside. That is where you have gone wrong. One does not need an excuse to be an atheist - just look at the evidence.The only knowledge of god that I claim is that there is no verifiable evidence to justify a belief that there is a god. I am guessing for the same reason a bat was called a bird - ignorance of reality. I don't think it is disrespect. To be disrespected you would first to have respect. You are for now.
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Post by CherieKropp on Oct 24, 2019 20:30:11 GMT -5
@gratu Did you receive my private message?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2019 17:32:22 GMT -5
@gratu Did you receive my private message? No, but then, I don't look for private messages to me on this board, and I see no friendly motive that is possible in publicly asking any question regarding any private message. So YOU have just successfully closed the door on any private communications between us and I will therefore not be looking for your now public 'private' message. Gratu, are you aware of the place on this board where people can talk to one another without posting on the public board? It is at the top where it states "messages"
They aren't "public", that is why they are called "private"
Why would you not want to converse with someone privately?
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