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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 7:40:55 GMT -5
Yuo – I can even quote God telling me, “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.” I only noted that you are always miserable in your posts to me – but thousands of years ago God told me that you are a “fool” and “corrupt” and do “ abominable” works too. And in your attempt in this post to exaggerate my words in order to blow them up into a balloon of 'mental illness,' I think God is right on the money with all three. It appears that someone is liable to call the asylum and they will send out the wagon to put you in a straight jacket. After all, God also said He gives people like you over to a "reprobate mind." Better call the asylum yourself huh. Stress pills won't do diddly on a reprobate mind." @gratu how did "God tell you thousands of years ago" ?? I didn't realise you were that old !!!! His ideas, perhaps. I think he's simply trolling.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 8, 2019 16:24:11 GMT -5
It is more likely that there are no skeletons in Dawkins closet. His fellow scientists would catch him up if there were.
Yes, I do "hunt" down "facts" I have been told or read of something claiming to be true. Then I check out WHO is doing the claiming. I do more research to see just how probable their claim could be.
I check out the claims with people that I have found to be knowledgeable as well and honest that I can rely on to be truthful.
I found out long ago that is one of the best ways to keep from getting caught up in snake oil scams.
"It is more likely that there are no skeletons in Dawkins closet. His fellow scientists would catch him up if there were." Ah huh - I know there are no skeletons in his closet – they were spreading all over social media by 2011 and anyone at all (except YOU of course) can stumble across them without looking for them – they are OUT of their closets long ago. So NOW your posts not only look a lot like hypocrisy, they begin to take on a 'defensive' stench, with YOU trying to protect Dawkins from his own well exposed skeletons using implausible B.S. -– is he your god, or just your he-e-e-ro? Really? Dawkins's "skeletons" spread "all over social media by 2011?
Enlighten me, I hadn't heard them.
However, if they were just on "social media," I'm not sure how much one could trust them to be true; -but nevertheless please post them .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 17:08:48 GMT -5
uote The film was released on December 16, 1994. It grossed $247 million at the box office and has developed a cult following in the years since its release.[4][5] The success of Dumb and Dumber launched the career of the Farrelly brothers and solidified Carrey's.[6] The film also spawned an animated TV series, a 2003 prequel, and a 2014 sequel. Unquote en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumb_and_Dumber An unofficial new release with special epppissoides on this thread on TMB began a few posts ago on page 2 – into full swing beginning on page 3 - with several understandably anonymous actors aiming their 'brilliance' upon one who obviously believes that God still speaks to people today through His word which was written thousands of years ago. These actors have all claimed to be former 2x2s, and the official movie and its s sequals demonstrated much of the thinking of the average 2x2 when facing one of their emenies. Enjoy the TMB version, and try not to laugh out loud. gratu - are you doing ok? Don't get too twisted up by us lot - aren't all of us sorting through various things?
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Post by rational on Oct 8, 2019 22:02:08 GMT -5
Simple necessity demands that before one can educate anyone else he/she must have education to teach from -- atheists claim to have come from nothing, and will end as nothing. Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? Your continual posting false claims may explain the reason you accept false claims as truth.
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Post by rational on Oct 8, 2019 22:19:03 GMT -5
Either you are incredibly naive or a troll @gratu Your first duty is to purge yourself in the flames of your confession before God. You must become ash in God's hands, for only then may you rise anew to strike the adversary down. -Apostle-Martial Zhar Pashay's dawn address to the Paladins at the Battle of Rahdo, Amarr Prime AD 20538 Is that "ash" or "ass"? Perhaps as Bush said:
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Post by slowtosee on Oct 8, 2019 22:43:05 GMT -5
[/quote]Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing
Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing, “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exist
Stephen Hawking
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 8, 2019 23:23:39 GMT -5
Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? Your continual posting false claims may explain the reason you accept false claims as truth. “Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not evolutionists or “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – the very same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies.. Gratu, it is always handy to have an imaginary scapegoat (former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist) on which one can blame one's own lack of knowledge about a topic which is beyond their own ability to comprehend.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 0:15:04 GMT -5
Interestingly, many scientists consider Dawkins a journalist , not a scientist. Alvin British scientists who mentioned Richard Dawkins during a recent study seem mostly to dislike him, with some arguing that he misrepresents science and is misleading the public. The common criticism was that Dawkins was too strong in his criticism of religion, and one nonreligious professor of biology referred to him as a “fundamental atheist”. "He feels compelled to take the evidence way beyond that which other scientists would regard as possible. ... I want [students] to develop [science] in their own lives. And I think it's necessary to understand what science does address directly." As a scientist, you’ve got to be very open, and I’m open to people’s belief in religion … I don’t think we’re in a position to deny anything unless it’s something which is within the scope of science to deny … I think as a scientist you should be open to it … It doesn’t end up encroaching for me because I think there’s quite a space between the two. www.independent.co.uk/news/science/richard-dawkins-atheism-criticism-atheist-study-rice-university-science-scientists-a7389396.html He did his best work in the 70s and 80s. His book, The Selfish Gene, fundamentally changed to way in which we look at the relationship between organism and DNA. We now speak normally about the fitness of an allele, while nearly disregarding the organisms which traffic it. Understandably, if Darwinian evolution was a dagger wound to fundamental religion, Dawkins' notion that the genes are [essentially] in command and the proteins/phenotypes that we call "us" exist soley to facilitate the propagation of those genes was a cup of salt. The fact that he's a militant atheist doesn't endear him to many now, but there was a time when his ideas (coupled with his ability to clearly communicate them) made him a very respected scientist. He also coined the term "meme", which is about the only thing my genetics students seem to find remotely interesting.
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Post by intelchips on Oct 9, 2019 0:18:45 GMT -5
Your first duty is to purge yourself in the flames of your confession before God. You must become ash in God's hands, for only then may you rise anew to strike the adversary down. -Apostle-Martial Zhar Pashay's dawn address to the Paladins at the Battle of Rahdo, Amarr Prime AD 20538 Is that "ash" or "ass"? Perhaps as Bush said: It's ash. Always a deeply religious people, religion remains of great importance to every Amarr, a fervor which at various times has been responsible both for great good and great evil. Shortly after recovering from the closure of the Garden of Eden, they began to expand their realm at the expense of neighboring states. The nations they conquered were enslaved, a practice justified by their religion. In the thousands of years since, the Amarr have enslaved every nation and race they have encountered, so that today slavery is an essential part of Amarr society. This has, of course, tainted their relations with other empires, especially the individualistic Christian types and everywhere they go the flame cleanses their way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 0:20:29 GMT -5
“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not real evolutionists or are “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies.. It's not apparent to me how unseen visitors will think less of the former 2x2 "evolutionists", OR current 2x2 members... They may see the wisdom of the 2x2s traditional reluctance to engage in forums such as this, however.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 0:47:48 GMT -5
“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not real evolutionists or are “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies.. Gratu, Do you realize that you keep posting the same post over & over? Do forget that you have posted it or is it because you nothing new to post?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 0:54:41 GMT -5
"It's not apparent to me how unseen visitors will think less of the former 2x2 "evolutionists", OR current 2x2 members"Um de dum dum - Who said the unseen visitors would think less of former 2x2 evolutionists or current 2x2 members? - Answer - YOU - um de dum dum. But Gratu! - I thought you said that your reason for posting anything was to inform new people or visitors of what was truth?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 1:31:13 GMT -5
"Gratu, Do you realize that you keep posting the same post over & over?" You screwed around with your 'quote' of what I posted, so without checking to see if you quoted it accurately, I just deleted and re-posted it the way I wrote it None of my posts appears on this board twice, but thanks for chipping in on the dum dum show. Not true Gratu!
I did not " screw" around with your 'quote' of what you posted. I quoted your post just as you stated it (I didn't even correct your spelling ) I separated the sentences only in order to make it easier to read . Otherwise it was word for word as you posted it. All you need to do is check what I did in my post copied below.YOUR POST, Gratu:“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not evolutionists or “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – the very same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies..
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Post by Roselyn T on Oct 9, 2019 1:49:18 GMT -5
“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not real evolutionists or are “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies.. It's not apparent to me how unseen visitors will think less of the former 2x2 "evolutionists", OR current 2x2 members... They may see the wisdom of the 2x2s traditional reluctance to engage in forums such as this, however. @ipsedixit I am curious about these "unseen visitors" but it seems @gratu can't/ won't answer my question !!! I wonder how many of the "unseen visitors" actually read here ? Maybe @gratu if recruiting for his church !!!
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 2:32:56 GMT -5
“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not real evolutionists or are “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. – same game workers played with quotations of workers for years on end. The vids and documents I posted have names in them along with the quotations of them, so you can waste YOUR time hunting up names to marginalize as not being real atheists. This is just another epppissope in the TMB version and you now have my laugh at your dumb act in it – and the unseen visitors will again see first hand how former 2x2 atheists/evolutionist still play 2x2 style dumb-act with their emenies.. gratu...There you go again-...posting the same post you did before...memory bad ??
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 2:46:16 GMT -5
"There you go again-...posting the same post you did before...memory bad ?? " Nope - memory is quite accurate, but I again deleted and re-posted right under yours so anyone can see the differences in YOURS. dum diddly dum dum - This time your quote of my RE-POST is accurate.. Ok! good! I'm Glad you did that, because it shows that I hadn't changed your post at all, -not even the misspelling.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 9, 2019 3:35:29 GMT -5
Ok! good! I'm Glad you did that, because it shows that I hadn't changed your post at all, -not even the misspelling. Do you have that poor of eyesight, or are your reading skills going down hill? And if misspelling remains in my posts, either it is intentional misspelling or my post has been accurately quoted before I can correct it or before I even notice it. Besides, the English teachers in my school taught me that, "Spelling is not that important as long as you get your point across." Your argument is way off base. You are missing the point.
I mentioned the "misspelling" only to show that if indeed I had "screwed" around with the 'quote' you posted, -as you accused me of doing, -then I would have changed your misspelled words.
But I didn't change them! Because I simply copied your quote and pasted it into my post, -word for word, -just as you had printed it.
I usually do that in order to be sure that I DON'T misquote someone!
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Post by nswelshman on Oct 9, 2019 6:10:29 GMT -5
There are actual numerical inconsistencies. God sucked at math or had a poor memory. Or didn't think consistency/accuracy was important.
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Post by nswelshman on Oct 9, 2019 6:57:29 GMT -5
1 Kings 7:26: “And it was an hand breadth [4 inches, or 10 centimeters] thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.” 2 Chronicles 4:5: “And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths.”
Yeah genius
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 8:39:48 GMT -5
1 Kings 7:26: “And it was an hand breadth [4 inches, or 10 centimeters] thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.” 2 Chronicles 4:5: “And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths.” Yeah genius Ah, ye worldlings! All Godly people know that [1 King Bath = 1.5 Chronicle Baths].
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 8:44:56 GMT -5
“They may see the wisdom of the 2x2s traditional reluctance to engage in forums such as this, however. “ Ya ipsedixit - are you going to answer Roselyn T for me, after implying that 2x2s are wiser than former 2x2 atheists who "engage" on here every few seconds? Different scenarios. The former 2x2s have already plummeted in the estimation of their friends and family, so posting on this forum incurs less cost compared to current members who are expected to uphold the standard of God's True Way.
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Post by Grant on Oct 9, 2019 11:14:20 GMT -5
Different scenarios. The former 2x2s have already plummeted in the estimation of their friends and family, so posting on this forum incurs less cost compared to current members who are expected to uphold the standard of God's True Way. That isn't what Roselyn T asked you – it is just a dum sidestep of your implication that 2x2s are wiser than former 2x2 atheists who “engage” on here every few seconds. And besides the dum dum show in the last few pages of this thread, including Roselyn T's dum question, it is obvious that the vids linked on this thread were posted for unseen visitors of the 2x2 breed to compare with their clergy's teachings, most especially their teaching regarding their "True Way" that is found nowhere in the Bible. In my opinion the former 2x2 atheists putting on the dum dum show for several pages are just trying to divert attention from those vids onto a dum dum topic. Maybe one or more of them will suggest to Admin that he toss this thread into his private access "freaks" bin so visiting 2x2s can't see the links or access the vids and thereby keep em in the dark fed on bull dung so that they remain wiser that former 2x2 atheists? Are you a Christian gratu? The post does not suggest you are. I would expect more from one if I was looking on this board.
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Post by rational on Oct 9, 2019 11:41:32 GMT -5
“Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing? “ Nope – I wasted my time doing that previously doing that for you, only to have the TMB evolutionists marginalize the names as it they were not real evolutionists or are “liars” etc. Etc. Etc. When you use marginal 'experts' you have to expect readers who familiarize themselves with your sources to marginalize the marginal sources.The games they played with you. Te workers only have any power over people who allowed them to have the power. From your posts, it sounds like you gave the workers full control and they took advantage of the situation and you felt powerless to do anything else. It would certainly go a long way toward explaining the feelings you express now. No one cares if a scientist of a theist or an atheist. The judgement is on the quality of the work they produce. Your 'experts' have been evaluated and much like Belshazzar the result is "TEKEL". I think you have confused enemies with poorly informed posters. I doubt that anyone will accuse you of acting dumb...
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Post by rational on Oct 9, 2019 11:56:05 GMT -5
Can you name a single atheist who claims to have come from nothing Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing, “Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exist Stephen Hawking Hawking was looking at the spontaneous creation of the universe but the claim was that evolutionists/atheists claimed they came from nothing. Most people understand that whole female/male dance and know they did not just pop into existence! I was going to counter with the common/uncommon definition of 'nothing' but that wouldn't work well with Hawking's claim. It would have to be Heisenberg and those vacuum fluctuation nuts to use that!
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Post by snow on Oct 9, 2019 14:24:05 GMT -5
Ok! good! I'm Glad you did that, because it shows that I hadn't changed your post at all, -not even the misspelling. Do you have that poor of eyesight, or are your reading skills going down hill? And if misspelling remains in my posts, either it is intentional misspelling or my post has been accurately quoted before I can correct it or before I even notice it. Besides, the English teachers in my school taught me that, "Spelling is not that important as long as you get your point across." Don't post before you've finished it and that will solve all your problems. What is the point of posting a post before you're done?
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Post by snow on Oct 9, 2019 14:25:38 GMT -5
Ah huh - whatever you say dear blind lady, but I see OBVIOUS differences in your first two 'copies' of my post, and I'm sure others very easily see the differences as well. But your quoting of my posts with dum dum comments on them are of no real importance to me anyway. So please pardon me for drawing attention to those differences in your 'copies' until you did get that post quoted accurately in the end - the discussion that post was part of was not with you to begin with -- but you did manage to commandeer it by screwing around with my post nonetheless, and now the cnversation it was a part of has been lost to your faulty denials, even to me and the other party to it. Ho hum dum. You are a real piece of work aren't you. Nobody messes with your posts. They quote them the way you post them. Just because you don't know enough to not post them until you're done isn't anyone else's fault.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 14:55:12 GMT -5
It is getting a bit much. There are 2x2s and atheists alike on this board who I like and respect. It's one thing to have a lively disagreement, but I don't consider the wallys, fixits and enufs 'dum dums', neither do I think this of the dmmichgoods, Roselyns snows and curlys.
If I were still a 2x2, I would read your posts (devoid of reason and/or personal kindness) and think, "if this is what happens to people who leave, I better stay in it forever!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 15:01:50 GMT -5
It's not apparent to me how unseen visitors will think less of the former 2x2 "evolutionists", OR current 2x2 members... They may see the wisdom of the 2x2s traditional reluctance to engage in forums such as this, however. @ipsedixit I am curious about these "unseen visitors" but it seems @gratu can't/ won't answer my question !!! I wonder how many of the "unseen visitors" actually read here ? Maybe @gratu if recruiting for his church !!! I know that several of the friends regularly check out the happenings, and I suspect workers as well. Few post though, for obvious reasons. Could be bot-inflated as well.
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