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Post by Get off of TMB on Aug 1, 2019 8:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by Evidently on Aug 2, 2019 21:21:02 GMT -5
Agree , and
as for me all cultures are ingrained to this
paradigm as it seems to be instinctual to
the human mind.
the truth is that, in spite of the instinctual
view of these tenants, everyone is tasked
with presenting the reality of “death” to
those that have not come to realize this truth
and what we can do to be ready when our
days on earth are o’er ?(?).
Thuz , the errors on this subject have so pitifully
riddled humanity that the vast majority of humanity have assigned their allegiance to
living in their own interpretation of this purpose
for which we have been Created!!
hmmm, ?
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Post by Evidently on Aug 13, 2019 17:34:40 GMT -5
“evolution” is a difficult sell , no matter how you view it!
for instance. , if man remains a uncultured ‘animal’ ?
where does the perfection of the “perfect man “ come
Into play? If it wasn’t for domesticated animals, we
would devolve into an animal world that far worse than the Wild West in nature?
If humanity finds a perfection outside the grace of God, it couldn’t have substance unless it was infinite and eternal,
At the end of the day, As those are all there is to
Move unto and that in itself can scarcely satisfy the
true human soul, for those so inclined to be desiring Satisfaction?
Hmmmmm
Thank you
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Post by Evidently on Aug 13, 2019 18:00:38 GMT -5
DNA is a non living molecule, well, except that all living organisms require one in order to have a ’life’ ?
Life cannot live without the necessary consciousness required, in as ordered to respond to the dictates of each DNA molecule, to perform as required in an ordered and orderly manner. Imo
hmmmm
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 13, 2019 20:01:20 GMT -5
Life cannot live without the necessary consciousness required, in as ordered to respond to the dictates of each DNA molecule, Do plants and viruses have consciousness?
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Post by Evidently on Aug 13, 2019 21:06:54 GMT -5
Life cannot live without the necessary consciousness required, in as ordered to respond to the dictates of each DNA molecule, Do plants and viruses have consciousness? Well, in context, they seem to have the necessary consciousness to respond to their likekind blueprint/DNA ha, if you added to that any thing requiring additional consciousness, it may be information overloaded!? hmmmm thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 13, 2019 21:58:31 GMT -5
Do plants and viruses have consciousness? Well, in context, they seem to have the necessary consciousness to respond to their likekind blueprint/DNA ha, if you added to that any thing requiring additional consciousness, it may be information overloaded!? hmmmm thank you So that's why my tree sneaks across the way to make out with my neighbor's tree at night.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 13, 2019 22:43:48 GMT -5
Well, in context, they seem to have the necessary consciousness to respond to their likekind blueprint/DNA ha, if you added to that any thing requiring additional consciousness, it may be information overloaded!? hmmmm thank you So that's why my tree sneaks across the way to make out with my neighbor's tree at night. Hmmm,!! now, either “we” have overactive imaginations, or those trees are working overtime.?? hmmmm thank you for laugh! 😭
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 13, 2019 23:48:41 GMT -5
One of the most known remembrances of William Jennings Bryan is the Scopes Trial. In 1925, Bryan participated in the highly publicized Scopes Trial, which tested the Butler Act, a Tennessee law barring the teaching of evolution in public schools. The defendant, John T. Scopes, had violated the Butler Act while serving as a substitute biology teacher in Dayton, Tennessee. His defense was funded by the American Civil Liberties Union and led in court by famed lawyer Clarence Darrow. No one disputed that Scopes had violated the Butler Act, but Darrow argued that the statute violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. Bryan defended the right of parents to choose what schools teach, argued that Darwinism was merely a "hypothesis," and claimed that Darrow and other intellectuals were trying to invalidate "every moral standard that the Bible gives us." The defense called Bryan as a witness and asked him about his belief in the literal word of the Bible. The judge expunged Bryan's testimony and instructed the jury to render a verdict of guilty; Scopes was fined $100 for violating the Butler Act.The national media reported the trial in great detail, with H. L. Mencken ridiculing Bryan as a symbol of Southern ignorance and anti-intellectualism. Even many Southern newspapers criticized Bryan's performance in the trial; the Memphis Commercial Appeal reported that "Darrow succeeded in showing that Bryan knows little about the science of the world." Bryan had not been allowed to deliver a final argument at trial, but he arranged for the publication of the speech he had intended to give. In that publication, Bryan wrote that "science is a magnificent material force, but it is not a teacher of morals."
However, -the trial wasn't about "morals" -it was about the Separation of Church & State. In a public school which is paid for by taxes on everyone, - parents should not be forced to have their children taught a religious concept, -which they themselves might not agree with, - instead of science.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 14, 2019 12:08:55 GMT -5
hmmmm,
”evolution seems to close the heart to some of the plainest spiritual truths, while it opens the mind to the wildest guesses advanced in the name of science. “
—-William Jennings Bryan (1860-1925)
thank you
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Post by Dennis J on Aug 14, 2019 12:27:39 GMT -5
Once again for myself, linguistics comes into play. How? Rather simple, it is in the often misunderstood concept of perfect, meaning flawless, rather than “whole, or complete.” That, alone, answers many questions in my mind.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 15, 2019 7:30:30 GMT -5
Once again for myself, linguistics comes into play. How? Rather simple, it is in the often misunderstood concept of perfect, meaning flawless, rather than “whole, or complete.” That, alone, answers many questions in my mind. That surely might be a helpful thought. Then ,perhaps perfection is the event of being forgiven of our past and all our error-rings also.? thanks
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Post by Evidently/ / on Aug 18, 2019 13:44:34 GMT -5
WJ Bryan was a champion for the commoner.
just wondering if there is a proper time and place that
the teaching of creation would/Could be universally understood to be a boon to everyone , as it
certainly is based on a true foundation of
our beginnings in/of the universe ?
Truth should be respected , regardless of
your biases.
Hmmmm
thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 18, 2019 15:29:53 GMT -5
WJ Bryan was a champion for the commoner. just wondering if there is a proper time and place that the teaching of creation would/Could be universally understood to be a boon to everyone , as it certainly is based on a true foundation of our beginnings in/of the universe ? Truth should be respected , regardless of your biases. Hmmmm thank you WJ Bryan was a populist -- i.e., a divider rather than a uniter.
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Post by Dennis J on Aug 18, 2019 16:49:57 GMT -5
In at least one way, so was my Lord and Savior...
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Post by Evidently on Aug 18, 2019 21:22:11 GMT -5
WJ Bryan was a champion for the commoner. just wondering if there is a proper time and place that the teaching of creation would/Could be universally understood to be a boon to everyone , as it certainly is based on a true foundation of our beginnings in/of the universe ? Truth should be respected , regardless of your biases. Hmmmm thank you WJ Bryan was a populist -- i.e., a divider rather than a uniter. Hmmm, well he did get 47% United to his Presidential campaign of 1896 ? not too bad for a country bumpkin!.. ya , it was a different culture back in those days huh? So, we can Postulate that our universe was created
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 18, 2019 21:51:47 GMT -5
WJ Bryan was a populist -- i.e., a divider rather than a uniter. Hmmm, well he did get 47% United to his Presidential campaign of 1896 ? not too bad for a country bumpkin!.. ya , it was a different culture back in those days huh? So, we can Postulate that our universe was created 47% doesn't mean the other 53% were at all united with him. Trump is another good example -- except he got lucky. Postulate away.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 18, 2019 22:06:15 GMT -5
Hmmm, well he did get 47% United to his Presidential campaign of 1896 ? not too bad for a country bumpkin!.. ya , it was a different culture back in those days huh? So, we can Postulate that our universe was created 47% doesn't mean the other 53% were at all united with him. Trump is another good example -- except he got lucky. Postulate away. Well, William McKinley got the 53% majority. interesting that McKinley put Bryan as his Secretary of State ! ( how does that not but help unify the country then ? !!) thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 18, 2019 22:31:30 GMT -5
47% doesn't mean the other 53% were at all united with him. Trump is another good example -- except he got lucky. Postulate away. Well, William McKinley got the 53% majority. interesting that McKinley put Bryan as his Secretary of State ! ( how does that not but help unify the country then ? !!) thank you The administration's response to racial violence was minimal, causing him to lose black support.[176] When black postmasters at Hogansville, Georgia in 1897, and at Lake City, South Carolina the following year, were assaulted, McKinley issued no statement of condemnation. Although black leaders criticized McKinley for inaction, supporters responded by saying there was little the president could do to intervene. Critics replied by saying that he could at least publicly condemn such events, as Harrison had doneHow would a populist secretary of state help?
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Post by Evidently on Aug 19, 2019 6:19:38 GMT -5
Well, William McKinley got the 53% majority. interesting that McKinley put Bryan as his Secretary of State ! ( how does that not but help unify the country then ? !!) thank you The administration's response to racial violence was minimal, causing him to lose black support.[176] When black postmasters at Hogansville, Georgia in 1897, and at Lake City, South Carolina the following year, were assaulted, McKinley issued no statement of condemnation. Although black leaders criticized McKinley for inaction, supporters responded by saying there was little the president could do to intervene. Critics replied by saying that he could at least publicly condemn such events, as Harrison had doneHow would a populist secretary of state help? Maybe by the working “behind the scenes” ? It does seem that by bringing “too much” attention to Racial violence we risk stirring the masses of the people?? How did this violence disappear? Or is it a bigger Problem now that cannot be properly fixed/condemned? Yes, you are right, yet , Bryan preferred non-confrontations, In hind sight we could all improve on our reactions to Social sins??? I’m sure we/some can do better if one method fails to accomplish the results we want? (and to unify the country?) Thanks.
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Post by Hmm Evidently on Aug 21, 2019 8:43:14 GMT -5
time was created from the eternal past. ?
ha !! i will try to unpack that thought?
Or at or at least try ?
yes a day can mean different things to different
people, but at the end of the day, was the day
more than you thought? Sundown to sunup...
or for the lack of a better measurement, maybe about 24 hours (+ or - ) , and a year of our journey around the sun to be measured by clocks and calendars
hmmm? , evidently
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Post by Evidently on Aug 21, 2019 8:50:37 GMT -5
IF time is eternal! , it cannot be created,
we are limited to devising methods of
measurements that help us determine
a physical finiteness in an infinite existence?
may be...
let me count the passage of the eternal time, and somehow keep it consistent , not an easy task //
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Post by Postulate ? on Aug 21, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5
Things that cannot be proven , yet nonetheless are self-evident, are Postulates .
Do we need them , hmmmm?
Well , i will begin by postulating that we do need various Postulates (such as demonstrating in mathematics/sciences/ logic , etc.
Thus the beginning of the beginning, (ok, the beginning of Our created universe/ what we can see / ‘that which doth cast a shadow / image on the earth or water (and in air~~ )
Then from this creation , we are the beneficiaries of a Very consistent method of measuring time, without which we may live in unmeasured existence, for a breath of an opportunity to live
Nonliving objects existing alongside the living. , yet created to be of service to the living. (All things being created for a reason/purpose )
Hmmm, just some musings to amuse someone. ?
Thanks.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 21, 2019 12:27:41 GMT -5
Along with time , we can discuss the ‘periodic table of elements’ , huh? , yes I do believe they were all spoken into existence in the beginning of creation .
there is currently a postulation that a big bang created them? , huh? Then please don’t tell helium and hydrogen, and all that they didn’t exist before the hydrogenated ‘big bang’
i need a refresher on that detail!!
thanks
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Post by Evidently / edit on Aug 25, 2019 21:08:34 GMT -5
Along with time , we can discuss the ‘periodic table of elements’ , huh? , yes I do believe they were all spoken into existence in the beginning of creation . there is currently a postulation that a big bang created them? , huh? Then please don’t tell helium and hydrogen, and all that they didn’t exist before the hydrogenated ‘big bang’ i need a refresher on that detail!! thanks So then, one could look at these two paradigms , and conclude which of them looks the most likely?, and the most logical ! due to default, I will not pursue the problems that plague the theory that the Big Bang created all the elements ( by means of hypothetical reactions? Etc. ) or some other alchemy process) thus is creating the elements reserved for the solving of the need for a physical world that would accommodate and nurture the world that is born to come together and reason! it hasn’t taken long to realize that reasoning is a powerful powerful process, a privilege , a duty , a responsibility, and above all a sacred blessing that humans have been so graced to participate and resolve the various physical and nonphysical (spiritual reasons) ?questions about the very question? Of what our purpose for living is to be ? Hmm thanks
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By the bye (path/way)
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Post by By the bye (path/way) on Sept 19, 2019 7:22:14 GMT -5
Ok 👍
Now , as far as cell vitality has been studied, it does Seem to be that dead cells can indeed pass on genetics To living cells . (!)
It’s called horizontal gene transferring .
Aka: transformation
Not sure of what matter it would make in the complex Eco system we live in? , yet it does give cause to Consider what it is that has immutable value that would Survive the “death of the cell” ?
It may be another reason to study this immutable Essence that we are Blessed with.
Hmm. (Not yet much info on this request) Oh
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Post by By the (way) /bye on Sept 23, 2019 9:57:29 GMT -5
Ok, fine
We we want to understand how the solar system works? Hmmmm. As for me. i would love to know how our consciousness was granted to me/us
that is far far more intriguing!!
thank you very very much. 🙂
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Post by snow on Sept 23, 2019 12:45:35 GMT -5
Ok, fine We we want to understand how the solar system works? Hmmmm. As for me. i would love to know how our consciousness was granted to me/us that is far far more intriguing!! thank you very very much. 🙂 Well I would very much like to know about both actually. But yes, I think everyone would like to know when the human part of being human actually happened and why. Brain chemicals likely started working in different ways, but the question would be why. So much to learn, so little time. I read an article today that scientists have watched a galaxy let of gas. Does that mean it farted.... Sorry couldn't help it cosmosmagazine.com/space/galaxy-caught-ejecting-gas
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