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Post by nathan on Jul 21, 2019 17:24:23 GMT -5
NO, God did NOT cause death it was Adam and Eve choice in the Garden of Eden that brought DEATH into the World. It was Satan who brought DEATH into the world by deceiving Adam and Eve into following/choosing him as their god/The Tree of knowledge of good and evil instead Christ/The TREE of Eternal life. Christ came down from heaven to RESTORE our immortality which God gave Adam and Eve before the FALL.
Satan brings DEATH and separation from God into the world; Christ/Jesus brought ETERNAL to those who believe in Him the TREE of Life to those who believe and accept Him as their Redeemer and Savior of their souls.
If God ever meant to have humans live forever he wouldn't have refused to let them eat from the tree of immortality, The Tree of Life. But he didn't want them living forever and he didn't want them to have knowledge of good and evil. Basically he didn't want humans to have free will and live forever. In His mercy God did NOT want Adam and Eve to eat the TREE of life AFTER they had sinned because they would LIVE in sinful state forever! So, God sent an angel to guard the TREE of LIFE and cast them out of the Garden. They had to be BORN AGAIN! by Faith through believing in Jesus who would REDEEM and Die for their sins. (Gen. 3:15)
If they had partake the TREE of Life instead the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that is Satan/Serpent... THEY and their humans children would have LIVE forever! Immortals beings.
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Post by nathan on Jul 21, 2019 17:25:05 GMT -5
1) God told humans in the Bible to stay on the earth, and he told the Venusians to stay inside hollow Venus, and all the other aliens to stay on their own planets. Only the wicked rebellious ones are flying around outside their planets. ~~ Nathan: Read Genesis chapters 17-19. The LORD God/Christ came down from heaven/Venus to earth in human body/form to talk to Abraham and Sarah about the birth of their son Isaac. There were two human-looking angels accompanied the LORD/Christ, he stayed and talked to Abraham and the two Venusians angels went to Sodom and Gomorrah to rescue Lot and his family.
I believe you have misinterpreted those verses that you posted because God sent an angel to Garden of Eden to guard the TREE of life with flaming sword. One angel of God slew 185,000 Assyrian soldiers on night. In Isa 47:36 The LORD sent an angel to the camp of the Assyrians, and he killed 185,000 of them all in one night. The next morning, the camp was full of dead bodies. An angel of the LORD went to the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 soldiers. At dawn the next day there they lay, all dead!
The angels of God appeared on earth as God's messengers in the Old and New Testament many times... At Jesus birth to tell the shepherds of the good news, Gabriel appeared to Joseph and Mary, they appeared and pushed away the big stone that guard at the tomb entrance to show the disciples that Jesus is NOT dead but risen.
They told the disciples that this same Jesus they saw went up into heaven will return in the same way one day, they rescued Peter from prison.2) Additionally, if Val and the other occupants on his spaceship are of Christ, why did they land near Washington instead of at a convention? They would be happy to have him, as long as his spaceship does not bring worldliness into the holy grounds. (No TVs/radios built in or antennas on it please) In all the time that they have been on Earth, can you show me a single gospel meeting, convention, or fellowship meeting that Val has attended? Why do they consort with the worldlings instead of having fellowship with God's true people? ~~ Well, God has more important mission for Valiant, Donn Thor and the Venusians angels to accomplish to tell to the world Chris is coming back soon and he cares about them.
~~ Valiant Thor "Created Being" from Interior planet of Venus arrived in 1957-60 at the Pentagon said to Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges, " There is LIFE on MANY other Planets, that the people of this earth know nothing about. There are presently 77 of us/Venusians walking among you in the United States. We are constantly coming and going. "We (Pastor Frank and Valiant Thor) discussed the merits of Jesus Christ ... how He gave His Life freely... so that men could enjoy the benefits of eternal life. I questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me that a personal unbroken fellowship with the "Author" did not necessitate the printing of a "book". He found it amusing that many theologians attempt to discredit both Jesus Christ and The Bible. The very God many have said is "dead" continues to lavish them with all good things. Perhaps they will, in time, permit the spark of Divine Light to again illuminate their troubled hearts. In answer to my question of what he thought of Jesus Christ, he said, "I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else faith. He today has assumed His rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by His Name to ascend far above the clouds to where His Power and Authority shall never again be disputed.There are more solar systems for which man has not even given God credit. There are many beings that have never transgressed the perfect laws of God. Man does not possess the right to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience." ~~ Nathan: Don't worry, When Jesus returns the 2x2s living on earth will be raptured or taken up in the sky with Him and Holy angels. God has given the Venusian angels the mission to spread the goodnews where Jesus is LIVING now! and He is coming back soon to reign on the earth and the Universe 1000 yrs.
So, the 2x2 workers and friends continue on their mission that God given them as lights and salt in the world, teaching the gospels, pointing people to follow Jesus and the Venusians angels will also accomplish their mission God has given them to fill.
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Post by snow on Jul 21, 2019 17:38:01 GMT -5
If God ever meant to have humans live forever he wouldn't have refused to let them eat from the tree of immortality, The Tree of Life. But he didn't want them living forever and he didn't want them to have knowledge of good and evil. Basically he didn't want humans to have free will and live forever. In His mercy God did NOT want Adam and Eve to eat the TREE of life AFTER they had sinned because they would LIVE in sinful state forever! So, God sent an angel to guard the TREE of LIFE and cast them out of the Garden. They had to be BORN AGAIN! by Faith through believing in Jesus who would REDEEM and Die for their sins. (Gen. 3:15)
If they had partake the TREE of Life instead the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that is Satan/Serpent... THEY and their humans children would have LIVE forever! Immortals beings.
Lol, right. If God was so merciful he would have made it impossible for them to eat from the tree of knowledge if it was so horrible. After all, why put temptation into the garden of eden when he doesn't even give them the knowledge of right or wrong in the first place. He was supposed to be protecting his creation not making it so they could fail.
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Post by Lee on Jul 21, 2019 17:45:05 GMT -5
Many people say the first moonwalk was a unifying event during a timultuous time. Everythings peaceful now right? I wanted to hear a Yes song this evening, 'And you and I'. Then I got curious about the meaning and googled for some thoughts. I found this, and I think the author hit it! alangullette.com/essays/lit/u_and_i.htm'There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify.' Reminds me of the prophetic tradition: 'They shall beat their swords into plowshares.'
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Post by openingact34 on Jul 21, 2019 17:46:17 GMT -5
2) Additionally, if Val and the other occupants on his spaceship are of Christ, why did they land near Washington instead of at a convention? They would be happy to have him, as long as his spaceship does not bring worldliness into the holy grounds. (No TVs/radios built in or antennas on it please) In all the time that they have been on Earth, can you show me a single gospel meeting, convention, or fellowship meeting that Val has attended? Why do they consort with the worldlings instead of having fellowship with God's true people? Well, God has more important mission for Valiant, Donn Thor and the Venusians angels to accomplish to tell to the world Chris is coming back soon and he cares about them.
... ~~ Don't worry, When Jesus returns the 2x2s living on earth will be raptured or taken up in the sky with Him and Holy angels. God has given the Venusian angels the mission to spread the goodnews where Jesus is LIVING now! and He is coming back soon to reign on the earth and the Universe 1000 yrs.
So, the workers and friends continue do their mission as lights and salt in the world, and the Venusians angels to accomplish their mission God has given them to fillSo who inside the Pentagon, White House, Area 51, or other parts of the US government, professed in the Venusian Angels' gospel meetings? Can you give me a single name?
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Post by nathan on Jul 21, 2019 17:47:40 GMT -5
In His mercy God did NOT want Adam and Eve to eat the TREE of life AFTER they had sinned because they would LIVE in sinful state forever! So, God sent an angel to guard the TREE of LIFE and cast them out of the Garden. They had to be BORN AGAIN! by Faith through believing in Jesus who would REDEEM and Die for their sins. (Gen. 3:15)
If they had partake the TREE of Life instead the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that is Satan/Serpent... THEY and their humans children would have LIVE forever! Immortals beings.
Lol, right. If God was so merciful he would have made it impossible for them to eat from the tree of knowledge if it was so horrible. After all, why put temptation into the garden of eden when he doesn't even give them the knowledge of right or wrong in the first place. He was supposed to be protecting his creation not making it so they could fail. FREEWILL God did NOT create Adam, Eve and their children ROBOTS, because THEY want the humans to love him and want be with THEM for eternity. LOVE can't be force on anyone one. Lucifer KNEW that because it was his choice to become Satan/God's adversary. Satan knew God had given the humans the same FREEWILL as ALL of the angels of God so he deceived Adam and Even into Sin by disobeying God by choose him/Tree of knowledge of good and evil instead Christ/the TREE of Life/immortality.
In Genesis 3:15 God Elohim offered them a way out of second death/cast into the Lake of fire... that is to wait for Christ to be gotten as the person Jesus to die for their sins and all of humans sins.
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Post by nathan on Jul 21, 2019 18:04:11 GMT -5
So who inside the Pentagon, White House, Area 51, or other parts of the US government, professed in the Venusian Angels' gospel meetings? Can you give me a single name? Yes, her name was Nancy Warren working in the Pentagon, she is a believer in Valiant Thor Mission to earth. Valiant Thor sent Nancy W. on a mission to bring Frank Stranges to the Pentagon in 1959 and he became one of the most successor messengers on earth! (to protect this woman identity Frank Stranges gave her an fake name Nancy Warren but she did exist as a REAL person because she met him and brought him to meet Valiant Thor at the Pentagon in 1969).
Well, you can hear Frank Stranges testimony for yourself... how and where he met Valiant Thor. And the death of Robert Kennedy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVKEN55UKFo&list=PLnbfU0e_sBxXNfiIwONHcm_kccOm9j7aQ&index=3
Phil Schneider is another person to spread/tell others about Valiant Thor is a REAL person NOT a mythology. He met Valiant Thor in person one time.
Alan Alda the actor on M.A.S.H. series on TV, who Dr Frank met on a plane ride with Donn Thor heard the tale and after talking to Donn on the trip ran up to them as they exited and said "You know I have heard stuff like this before but you 2 guys I really do believe what you say!"
Robert Kennedy met Frank Stranges and he wanted to ask Valiant Thor to TELL him whether he should run for presidency in 1968. Valiant Thor sent him the message NOT to run for presidency in 1968 but wait. Well, Robert K. didn't listen to Val Thor advice and he was assassinated in On June 5, 1968.
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Post by Lee on Jul 21, 2019 18:15:01 GMT -5
Jon Anderson's, Yes's proclamations are attended with musical humility. I love that!
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