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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2007 8:47:12 GMT -5
To impress senior workers Teach them to be quiet in meeting Relieve stress from being in a quiet and structured environment showing the kids who is boss Unable to develop other forms of punishment that don't intimidate the child.
Have you noticed that the children who are beaten in meeting are the worst kids out there? The licks from a belt or hand makes them mean!
Old timers were kind of harsh and mean whether or not they were professing. Lyrics of old country and bluegrass songs indicate harsh punishment of children.
do you remember any whippings or times when you as a parent beat your children in meeting or convention. The kids who are beaten the hardest are usually the loudest! For one thing, when they are carried out of the meeting room, they know their arse will burn so they howl!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2007 9:08:12 GMT -5
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Post by Nancy on Jun 26, 2007 9:12:25 GMT -5
I think it was a generational thing. We used to get "swats" in school too. Beating your kids butt was accepted when I was a kid and school teachers (and principals) were allowed to do it too.
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Post by Roy on Jun 26, 2007 9:17:59 GMT -5
Parents spank their kids in meeting because that how they want God to treat them.
Remember "Do unto others as you want them to do unto you". It's very simple.
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Post by juliette on Jun 26, 2007 10:46:49 GMT -5
Parents spank their kids in meeting because that how they want God to treat them. Remember "Do unto others as you want them to do unto you". It's very simple. This post may have been intended to be funny, but I think it holds a lot of truth. I think that the way we treat our children has a lot to do with our vision of God and how we relate to him. My parents seemed to fear God and what others thought of their service to God above all else. This seemed to lead to great anxiety and even anger. I think that this really informed their parenting. The thing is, that FORCING your children into a behavior or into serving God doesn't work. They'll just find a way to escape eventually (my brother started sneaking out of his bedroom window at night when he was about 12). I do also agree that it is a bit of a generational thing. I think there is more information out there about what you can expect from children at different ages. Sitting still for 1 1/2 hours is not really a reasonable thing to expect out of a 2 year old. I would see many more parents (moms and dads) spending time outside of the meeting shed at convention with their young children, just hanging out and letting them run around during meeting time.
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Post by Stefan on Jun 26, 2007 11:53:17 GMT -5
Sitting still for 1 1/2 hours is not really a reasonable thing to expect out of a 2 year old. I couldn't agree more. Even for kids older than that. When I drop by a Church service with my son (2x2 or otherwise), I make sure he has plenty of new toys or books to keep him entertained. To expect him to sit still with nothing to do is unreasonable, IMO. My son spent the night with my professing parents recently and he attended Sunday morning meeting with them. When I picked him up, I told my mom that we would not be at meeting that afternoon because I don't believe it is fair to expect a 4-year old to sit still that long twice in one day. To my shock, she completely agreed. I think she realizes now that forcing my brother and I to attend every single possible meeting as kids made us have some resentment towards meetings. Funny how we get wiser as we get older.
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Post by tzz on Jun 26, 2007 19:06:15 GMT -5
WHY? to break their will to teach them that it is more pleasant in meeting than out of meeting to show everyone that your children are under control
I was instructed ( by those ahead of me on the path to salvation) to break their will, make them learn submission at an early age, teach the children to respect authority, for the children to learn that disrespect comes with severe consequences.
Thankfully my kids don't hate me. Hopefully, as they become parents they will be more thoughtful and careful about whose advice they accept than I was.
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Post by legal on Jun 26, 2007 19:17:49 GMT -5
Some countries ban spanking........ Sweden, New Zealand...... anywhere else?
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Post by Observing on Jun 26, 2007 19:41:11 GMT -5
Some countries ban spanking........ Sweden, New Zealand...... anywhere else? Norway, Denmark, Austria, Finland and counting. oddly enough these countries have, in general, lower rates of interpersonal violence compared to countries that live by the "Spare the rod and spoil the child" mantra.
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Post by GOTO on Jun 27, 2007 0:27:14 GMT -5
Done to death here:
Read the whole thread and if you have something to say, say it there.
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Post by GOTO on Jun 27, 2007 0:27:53 GMT -5
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Let them be children
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Post by Let them be children on Jun 27, 2007 6:15:35 GMT -5
Children should be allowed to be children I do think there is a time and place for discipline, obviously by looking at some people in this world there wasn't any or enough. But children shouldn't be expected to sit for hours and hours and be quiet or not have any toys. I know of some that don't allow their children to have anything more than a hymn book or bible in meeting.
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Post by amen on Jun 28, 2007 12:21:01 GMT -5
Older parents were less educated and more savage..closer to pioneer days when being tough and uncivilized was a virtue. Parents need to be firm, kind, consistent and set reasonable boundaries . Also don't expect to produce perfect children.
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Post by Perhaps on Jun 28, 2007 12:40:49 GMT -5
Older parents were less educated and more savage..closer to pioneer days when being tough and uncivilized was a virtue. Parents need to be firm, kind, consistent and set reasonable boundaries . Also don't expect to produce perfect children. Perhaps we need a little more of that tough action such that we stop raising a bunch of girlyboys. We need some tuff guys in todays world who will not keep selling freedoms and morals down the tubes for political correctness.
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Post by TMS on Jun 30, 2007 21:36:03 GMT -5
my parents used to spank my brother and sister all the time because they would not sit still in meeting. It was so annoying. I know they did it because they wanted to fit in and seem like they had us under control, but my little brother was like 3 yrs old and had ADHD and could not sit still for more than 30 minutes. Beating him had little effect and beating me just pissed me off, I would scream louder becuase I know it made my dad even more frusterated. I would do it on purpose for that reason. Kids are dumb. Spanking should be done at home. Today my 2 yr old was screaming over a toy in the store, so I pinch her ear....so she stops. Its funny because it works. ;D and avoids a big thing of spanking.
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Post by Amen on Jun 30, 2007 22:24:38 GMT -5
Agreed!!! [/quote][/quote] Goodbye.
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Post by Amen on Jun 30, 2007 22:24:57 GMT -5
Agreed!!! [/quote][/quote] Goodbye.
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Post by withopeneyes (Mandy) on Jul 1, 2007 16:54:08 GMT -5
We were expected to spank our children in the meeting we once attended in this area. If someone felt that we were not tending to our children as we should (they were being a little wiggly or a bit noisy), one of them elder women would come and snatch up our child and take them out of the room.
This always made me very uncomfortable. They didn't even ask.
I never thought it was reasonable to force a child to sit still and quiet through an hour or more of meeting (or.. woah, convention). I felt that a few squeeks and wiggles were just fine. Of course, if they were screaming or being too nutty, I'd take them out and hold them or rock them for a bit before returning to meeting.
I really love that our church is kid friendly. Their Sunday School classes for children are uplifting and right at their levels. They understand that children are going to be wiggly, sometimes wild and unruly, and yes... noisy.. because they are kids.
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Post by why whipem on Aug 6, 2007 21:48:19 GMT -5
Why whip them? Why not love them?
-why whipem
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Post by ann on Aug 6, 2007 22:41:24 GMT -5
It would be a cold day in h*ll that some old crow in mtg grab one of my kids and take them out. She would have been picking herself up off the floor! I feel so sorry for the little ones - this is no way to raise a child being beat for being a child. I'm sorry - this really pushed my buttons. I could go on and on how I was affected as B&R.
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Post by youthinkima on Aug 7, 2007 5:24:20 GMT -5
For the clever person who did the IT work with "Goodbye" in it:
I dont respect what you did, but I respect you as people. I will never trust anyone again.
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Post by shushy on Aug 7, 2007 6:21:58 GMT -5
We were disciplined when we got home. But my brother would pay my mum back by releasing wind at the dinner table when the workers came. I remember one man who had massive hands and he would whallop his small child at the meeting. He was an ex worker.That disgusted me. There was another lady who would bellow outside at her kids after the mission. She embarrassed herself.
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