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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 0:40:21 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP3vLOrRGbg3:20 long director carrol(sp?) quotes 432,000 pounds of drugs come through ports on entry in 2018 and BETWEEN ports of entry 475,000 pounds...this is from the custom and border protection dept. as reported by the Office of National Drug Control Policy... so the data thats out there saying that only a few hundred pounds goes through between ports is false... www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
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Post by matisse on Mar 30, 2019 7:16:09 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP3vLOrRGbg3:20 long director carrol(sp?) quotes 432,000 pounds of drugs come through ports on entry in 2018 and BETWEEN ports of entry 475,000 pounds...this is from the custom and border protection dept. as reported by the Office of National Drug Control Policy... so the data thats out there saying that only a few hundred pounds goes through between ports is false... www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics It's not clear to me what is being reported. Drugs that made it through a port undetected and then discovered later? Drugs confiscated at a port?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 7:44:19 GMT -5
whats being reported is drugs coming across our border both in ports of entry and in between ports of entry I.E across the rest of the border...
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Post by snow on Mar 30, 2019 12:32:57 GMT -5
Well Canada has a problem with drugs coming up from the states. Should we build a wall too?
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Post by matisse on Mar 30, 2019 12:43:47 GMT -5
whats being reported is drugs coming across our border both in ports of entry and in between ports of entry I.E across the rest of the border... If drugs are detected, they will be confiscated and will not cross the border. If drugs pass undetected, how do they know what quantity passed undetected?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 12:47:47 GMT -5
whats being reported is drugs coming across our border both in ports of entry and in between ports of entry I.E across the rest of the border... If drugs are detected, they will be confiscated and will not cross the border. If drugs pass undetected, how do they know what quantity passed undetected? they haven't said how much gets though just how much has been caught......
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Post by matisse on Mar 30, 2019 12:49:31 GMT -5
If drugs are detected, they will be confiscated and will not cross the border. If drugs pass undetected, how do they know what quantity passed undetected? they haven't said how much gets though just how much has been caught...... So they are not "coming across the border" as you stated earlier. It would be more accurate to state that these are drugs being stopped at the border.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 12:55:03 GMT -5
they haven't said how much gets though just how much has been caught...... So they are not "coming across the border" as you stated earlier. It would be more accurate to state that these are drugs being stopped at the border. ummm thats rather naive to think they are catching everyone don't you think...and they have to cross the border at some point if we're actually confiscating them we can't do it across the border in mexico can we?
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Post by matisse on Mar 30, 2019 13:01:23 GMT -5
So they are not "coming across the border" as you stated earlier. It would be more accurate to state that these are drugs being stopped at the border. ummm thats rather naive to think they are catching everyone don't you think...and they have to cross the border at some point if we're actually confiscating them we can't do it across the border in mexico can we? I never said that they are catching everyone at the border. I'm trying to figure out how good the numbers are that you are reporting. It seems to me like you don't understand them very well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 13:39:03 GMT -5
ummm thats rather naive to think they are catching everyone don't you think...and they have to cross the border at some point if we're actually confiscating them we can't do it across the border in mexico can we? I never said that they are catching everyone at the border. I'm trying to figure out how good the numbers are that you are reporting. It seems to me like you don't understand them very well. they appear to be more accurate than anything reported here on TMB so far right from the horses mouth so to speak...show me where i am mis-understanding and getting it wrong...
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 1, 2019 15:27:34 GMT -5
Three semis loaded with illegal drugs were intercepted last night crossing the border from Sonora to Arizona about 30 miles east of Lukeville, AZ.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 2, 2019 2:40:28 GMT -5
The problem with any wall will be the yanks trying to climb into Mexico to get the drugs. What is being done for drug rehabilitation? .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 13:25:42 GMT -5
The problem with any wall will be the yanks trying to climb into Mexico to get the drugs. What is being done for drug rehabilitation? . there are drug rehab programs everywhere, the problem is getting someone to go and finish one...
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Post by Dennis J on Apr 2, 2019 14:27:21 GMT -5
Curious about addiction. In years of trying various pain medications, the only one I know of that does it’s job is simply that which is most feared, OxyContin. Long ago, MDs began to test me with the medication to determine how trustworthy I was with a narcotic. Now, it is prescribed simply as PRN, and all question of being addicted long forgotten. So, what IS that qualification?
From reading here, it is clear some think such an enabler means automatic addiction. Why is that so? What is the reasoning behind that type of thought process? Is anyone able to explain it? Likely not, apparently — will just wait now to see.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 2, 2019 16:09:05 GMT -5
Curious about addiction. In years of trying various pain medications, the only one I know of that does it’s job is simply that which is most feared, OxyContin. Long ago, MDs began to test me with the medication to determine how trustworthy I was with a narcotic. Now, it is prescribed simply as PRN, and all question of being addicted long forgotten. So, what IS that qualification?
From reading here, it is clear some think such an enabler means automatic addiction. Why is that so? What is the reasoning behind that type of thought process? Is anyone able to explain it? Likely not, apparently — will just wait now to see. The reason is that some people don't want to be bothered with the process of determining who is vulnerable to becoming addicted, as well as those who cannot accept that there are no hard and fast rules about human health and safety.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 2, 2019 16:11:23 GMT -5
The problem with any wall will be the yanks trying to climb into Mexico to get the drugs. What is being done for drug rehabilitation? . there are drug rehab programs everywhere, the problem is getting someone to go and finish one... Finishing a program is no guarantee that it will last. Addicts never really recover, they learn ways to control their dependence on whatever their addiction is. Including religion.
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Post by snow on Apr 3, 2019 15:14:49 GMT -5
Curious about addiction. In years of trying various pain medications, the only one I know of that does it’s job is simply that which is most feared, OxyContin. Long ago, MDs began to test me with the medication to determine how trustworthy I was with a narcotic. Now, it is prescribed simply as PRN, and all question of being addicted long forgotten. So, what IS that qualification?
From reading here, it is clear some think such an enabler means automatic addiction. Why is that so? What is the reasoning behind that type of thought process? Is anyone able to explain it? Likely not, apparently — will just wait now to see. I agree with you Dennis. It does work. I think the problem is that doctors give it out too quickly and freely in cases of temporary pain. For long term chronic pain there is nothing that works as well with the least side effects. But when it's given to someone with a sports injury at the levels they give it at, it's going to be a problem. It is addictive in the sense that your body gets used to it and then needs a higher dose to be as effective. But physiologically you will need it and there will be withdrawal issues depending on how long you've been on it. There is no getting away from that. And, the withdrawal is often not pleasant. For chronic pain, long term use, it's best overall. But I disagree with giving it for short term pain control. So that's the reason I see that it's seen as an 'automatic addiction' and there should be concerns about that.
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Post by Dennis J on Apr 3, 2019 16:01:11 GMT -5
Thank you, snow. While I certainly do not believe myself addicted and can’t comprehend anyone “stealing it” when they run out, I must admit, confess, whatever, that I am very careful NOT to run out, always reserving a couple of 5mg tabs, and often have an innate sleepiness. Those practicing professional medicine still do not attribute that strange long hours of sleepiness to the drug, rather to a kidney involvement. I do not know, so listen to those in professional practice.
Yes, I am concerned “what if they are wrong,” so my only defense against that is complete openness, as expressed here, and to every professional, who merely smile at my concern of possible addictiveness and tell me not to worry about it. This I do know, I will NEVER again blame a victim as I was taught to do previously, and perceive by others on occasion even here.
Mebbe that is why I am still alive, as an example, either for good or bad for others to at least consider. Dunno, just dunno.
Have probably expressed this here before. Was told by someone purporting themselves to know, only misshapen otherwise unusable pearls finely crushed/ground to powder can be used to polish the otherwise fine and flawless pearls of great price. If that is all I am to be, then may that be successful!!!
Thinking of the beauty I see in others here, and in life, rather content with just the thought of being able to at least polish and enable that beauty to be seen by others as well as myself. Wan smile...
DAJ
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