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Post by alistairhenderson on Nov 10, 2018 1:22:37 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
Does anyone have an overall sense of who among the friends is affected by the large fires (apart from Californians generally and people in the fire areas in particular), including convention grounds etc?
Just wondering,
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Nov 10, 2018 5:28:06 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Does anyone have an overall sense of who among the friends is affected by the large fires (apart from Californians generally and people in the fire areas in particular), including convention grounds etc?Just wondering, The fires in northern California are quite far north of the Mtn. Ranch convention grounds. I have seen Facebook comments regarding several of the friends losing their homes in Paradise, and I believe some at least threatened in nearby Magalia. These two towns are up in the Sierra foothills. The last report I saw said that the east side of Chico (to the west of the previously mentioned towns, down in the central valley) was being evacuated, and I read of one professing family that had evacuated. There are quite a few friends in Chico. I spent a year in this region (back in 1994-95), and know most of those I have seen mentioned, though I have lost track of their moving about through the years. I read of two of the professing families hosting others who had been evacuated. This is spotty and incomplete, but I would have to track through numerous Facebook posts over the last couple of days to list the names. But yes, numerous families of professing (and once-professing) people are severely affected. Comments were saying, "We've lost everything we have." I did read a comment or two stating that professing families have been affected in the southern California fires as well.
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Post by alistairhenderson on Nov 10, 2018 8:09:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear it. It doesn't matter whether you are a Kardashian or a Konventions-goer, the fire doesn't discriminate...
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Post by Lee on Nov 10, 2018 9:28:33 GMT -5
I work about sixty miles from the fire. I didn't even hear about it as it was growing inferno fashion 80 football fields an hour. The smoke must have been blown another direction. The winds were horrible that day for fanning flames. Media says its the new normal of a hotter dryer climate.
It's warmer. I don't think its been dryer. California's always been dry, really dry some summers. Its a Mediterranean climate. Our cool off shore ocean current from Alaska condenses all of the moisture out of the air during our summers.
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Post by Lee on Nov 13, 2018 12:56:39 GMT -5
Jerk Jerry Brown exploited the fire to make it a global warming issue. There's massive amounts of forest thinning that could reduce the threat of fires but regulations make that difficult. Animals thrive in overgrowth, and animals ought to come before humans should humans be good, were told. The same people tend to argue humans are only animals anyway, but I digress..
I helped a friend burn needles and brush on her property in the area. It amazed me such lowly people as ourselves we're allowed to burn without any training but if they didn't allow people to burn, well there'd by that much more random latent fuel for ignition.
PGE power is the probable culprit of the fire. There were disruptions to the grid just prior to the fire.
They're still under probation for culbility in the deadly Oakland gas line explosion and fire.
From my experience in electrical, gas, and mechanical maintenance, latent fire hazards are being built in everywhere with so called progress. Some of the risk can be managed with good installation and maintenance procedure. But not all. And then there's the profit/efficiency motive that cuts corners, all too often.
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Post by Lee on Nov 13, 2018 13:02:20 GMT -5
Katheen Huismans sisters home in Migalia burnt down.
Descending the mountains where I work for my weekend stay in the valley sunday evening, the smoke smell crowded my senses. A campground and RV park 100 miles from the fire was crowded with refugees.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2018 16:16:18 GMT -5
Jerk Jerry Brown exploited the fire to make it a global warming issue. There's massive amounts of forest thinning that could reduce the threat of fires but regulations make that difficult. Animals thrive in overgrowth, and animals ought to come before humans should humans be good, were told. The same people tend to argue humans are only animals anyway, but I digress.. I helped a friend burn needles and brush on her property in the area. It amazed me such lowly people as ourselves we're allowed to burn without any training but if they didn't allow people to burn, well there'd by that much more random latent fuel for ignition. PGE power is the probable culprit of the fire. There were disruptions to the grid just prior to the fire. They're still under probation for culbility in the deadly Oakland gas line explosion and fire. From my experience in electrical, gas, and mechanical maintenance, latent fire hazards are being built in everywhere with so called progress. Some of the risk can be managed with good installation and maintenance procedure. But not all. And then there's the profit/efficiency motive that cuts corners, all too often. Sounds like you think there are too many culprits to ever make a difference.
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Post by Lee on Nov 13, 2018 16:30:08 GMT -5
Thinning forests would help.
Deadly forest fires are the new normal in California.
It's a function of 40 million plus people and the sloppy way budget and tech people approach preventative maintenance.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 13, 2018 16:40:38 GMT -5
Thinning forests would help. Deadly forest fires are the new normal in California. It's a function of 40 million plus people and the sloppy way budget and tech people approach preventative maintenance. How do you think the 40 million people should go about thinning the forest? Didn't you intimate that you disagreed with people being allowed to burn their thinning debris. Ironically the wilderness areas that are virtually impossible to thin are not where the most deadly fires happen.
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Post by Lee on Nov 13, 2018 16:50:40 GMT -5
I'm thinking any forested area can be thinned that foresters can legally thin. Steep hillsides? No problem for modern equipment. Rocky cliff areas don't grow trees anyway.
Im not against landowners being able to burn their undergrowth or overgrowth. I was only saying that city people are far removed from the laws and the wisdom country people abide and thrive and preserve their own land by. It's one reason for the blue and red voting districts. Blue people seek to grow their electorate by infantalizing people.
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