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Post by snow on Nov 14, 2018 12:45:22 GMT -5
No. The confusion is from you. You posted that I was wrong when I said that Jesus never said he was a god and you quoted verses to try and back that claim. Then when I said he did say he was God you said that he didn't. He only did things that were god like in nature. You can't prove something is true just by saying it is true. You can believe it all you like, but the evidence is missing. I have always said Jesus is God/the Son. I have NEVER said he was NOT God. I have written Christ is NOT God the Father but the Son/God.
You wrote, "Then when I said he did say he was God you said that he didn't." SHOW me in my post, where I said or wrote he/Jesus was NOT God, thanks.
You're right nathan. In the post where I thought you said he didn't say he was God, I missed the 'not'. And you even capitalized it. Not sure how I missed it and read it like I did. But you're right and I'm wrong. You never said that Jesus didn't say he was God. So now I'm not as confused at what you meant. ha! That's a good thing
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Post by nathan on Nov 14, 2018 12:57:20 GMT -5
I have always said Jesus is God/the Son. I have NEVER said he was NOT God. I have written Christ is NOT God the Father but the Son/God.
You wrote, "Then when I said he did say he was God you said that he didn't." SHOW me in my post, where I said or wrote he/Jesus was NOT God, thanks.
You're right nathan. In the post where I thought you said he didn't say he was God, I missed the 'not'. And you even capitalized it. Not sure how I missed it and read it like I did. But you're right and I'm wrong. You never said that Jesus didn't say he was God. So now I'm not as confused at what you meant. ha! That's a good thing ** No problem, it's good to get thing clear up so there is no misunderstanding.
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Post by snow on Nov 14, 2018 13:34:23 GMT -5
Excellent research Nathan, but do you understand it? how do you explain: The image on pottery found at Kuntillet Ajrud where the inscriptions include "Yahweh of Samaria and his Asherah" and "Yahweh of Teman and his Asherah." and the Image on pottery found at Kuntillet Ajrud with inscriptions that include "Yahweh of Samaria and his Asherah" and "Yahweh of Teman and his Asherah." Would it not be logical to say God had a wife? All this was understood until the Babylon exile. When the Jews came back from Persia it seems they forgot their history. God is Spirit. God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are Spirits. He doesn't have a wife or need a wife. Why, does God need a wife for? Companionship? What else do you have a wife for?
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Post by nathan on Nov 14, 2018 14:07:59 GMT -5
God is Spirit. God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit are Spirits. He doesn't have a wife or need a wife. Why, does God need a wife for? Companionship? What else do you have a wife for? *** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE.
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Post by snow on Nov 14, 2018 14:14:31 GMT -5
Companionship? What else do you have a wife for? *** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE. But I thought they were just one person, not three? That's how Christians get around being accused of being polytheists.
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*** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE. But I thought they were just one person, not three? That's how Christians get around being accused of being polytheists. yes confusing i know...three beings yet one...i believe in it but don't entirely understand it either...
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Post by nathan on Nov 14, 2018 15:04:37 GMT -5
*** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE. But I thought they were just one person, not three? That's how Christians get around being accused of being polytheists. *** Christ/God the Son came down from heaven and he lived in the person Jesus to REVEAL to us there is ONE Godhead consists of 3 supreme beings. One family but many members in the family. In John chapter 13-17 Jesus explained about 3 supreme beings to the 11 apostles when they are born again and KEEP their teachings then God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit will come and dwell within them. Throughout the Old and New Test, from the book of Genesis to Revelation the concept and teachings of 3 supreme beings are there. It's NOT that confusing, people just don't understand it because there are many false teachings are out there, that make them confuse.
It's VERY simple once a person sees and understands it.
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Post by snow on Nov 15, 2018 18:07:10 GMT -5
But I thought they were just one person, not three? That's how Christians get around being accused of being polytheists. *** Christ/God the Son came down from heaven and he lived in the person Jesus to REVEAL to us there is ONE Godhead consists of 3 supreme beings. One family but many members in the family. In John chapter 13-17 Jesus explained about 3 supreme beings to the 11 apostles when they are born again and KEEP their teachings then God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit will come and dwell within them. Throughout the Old and New Test, from the book of Genesis to Revelation the concept and teachings of 3 supreme beings are there. It's NOT that confusing, people just don't understand it because there are many false teachings are out there, that make them confuse.
It's VERY simple once a person sees and understands it. It's like laundry detergent with softer, detergent and oxi in it! ha! Get more for your money with a 3 in 1 product!
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Post by nathan on Nov 15, 2018 18:32:59 GMT -5
*** Christ/God the Son came down from heaven and he lived in the person Jesus to REVEAL to us there is ONE Godhead consists of 3 supreme beings. One family but many members in the family. In John chapter 13-17 Jesus explained about 3 supreme beings to the 11 apostles when they are born again and KEEP their teachings then God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit will come and dwell within them. Throughout the Old and New Test, from the book of Genesis to Revelation the concept and teachings of 3 supreme beings are there. It's NOT that confusing, people just don't understand it because there are many false teachings are out there, that make them confuse.
It's VERY simple once a person sees and understands it. It's like laundry detergent with softer, detergent and oxi in it! ha! Get more for your money with a 3 in 1 product! hahaha that is so TRUE! snow. I must remember that illustration, Awesome... Father, Christ and Holy Spirit like a CORD/Godhead of THREE strands is NOT quickly to be defeated by Satan and his hosts of 1/3 of the fallen angels and ALL of their demigods children on earth.
The verse in Ecclesiastes 4:12. It reads as follows, " And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him—a threefold cord is not quickly broken." And if one can overpower him who is alone, two can resist him. A cord of three strands is not quickly torn apart. Ecclesiastes 4:12 (NASB) Starting with Ecclesiastes 4:9, God tells us that it is better to not be a loner. Some people are hermits and want to live alone. Some move into the country and keep to themselves. Others want to do everything without anyone’s help. Some people do not want to be with people. They have no friends or avoid their neighbors. But God warns us in this passage that that is not wisdom. Therefore, starting in Ecclesiastes 4:9 God says that two people are more productive than one person. Most people understand that is true. In verse 10, we are told that if one of the two falls down, the other one can help them. In verse 11 we discover that two people sleeping together will be warmer. That makes sense when there is no heat. Then in verse 12 we are told that two people can withstand someone who is very powerful better than one person, and better yet are three people together. The actual Hebrew does not say “three strands” but simply “three.” The Hebrew word that is translated as “three stands” is msullas and it means “three.” In this verse the meaning is that three smaller cords are twisted together for greater strength. Three smaller cords twisted together are better than one or two smaller cords by themselves. The picture is of a very powerful individual who overpowers another individual – one on one. When we are told that two can resist, the Hebrew word that is translated as “resist” actually means “to stand against.” That is, two people can resist one but may succumb eventually. But three people are better than two, and two are better than one in withstanding a powerful individual. www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/what-is-the-meaning-of-a-cord-of-3-strands-is-not-easily-broken/
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Post by gustaf on Nov 15, 2018 18:51:18 GMT -5
I don't know why people think they can say the bible is right, just because the bible says it's right? That's like me saying everything I say is right, because I say it's right. Doesn't work that way though. There needs to be outside verifying evidence. And, there isn't. These are things revealed to those who believe. Your mind will never stumble across it. The Truth of our existence is spiritual and not of the flesh. Since you have chosen to not believe. It cannot be revealed to you. It takes FAITH, perhaps someday you will find it necessary to trust God and his Word, then you can have a Savior too! I will pray for that. I love existing in God's creation and provision. He really thought of EVERYTHING ! Praise the Lord !
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Post by snow on Nov 15, 2018 19:10:55 GMT -5
I don't know why people think they can say the bible is right, just because the bible says it's right? That's like me saying everything I say is right, because I say it's right. Doesn't work that way though. There needs to be outside verifying evidence. And, there isn't. These are things revealed to those who believe. Your mind will never stumble across it. The Truth of our existence is spiritual and not of the flesh. Since you have chosen to not believe. It cannot be revealed to you. It takes FAITH, perhaps someday you will find it necessary to trust God and his Word, then you can have a Savior too! I will pray for that. I love existing in God's creation and provision. He really thought of EVERYTHING ! Praise the Lord !
Well there's where you are wrong. I didn't 'choose' to not believe. It happened and at first it scared me half to death. It can happen to anyone actually. I don't think anyone asks for it to happen. I professed at 8 and wanted to be a worker. I was a zealous little professing person. Then that door opens and it becomes evident that everything you once believed is not true, it's a pretty traumatic revelation. So don't go one like we choose not to believe because nothing is further from the truth. It can happen to anyone and it happens all the time. I am currently a mentor for people who have had this happen to them and many of them were actually pastors when it happened. We just got a new member last week and he is so traumatized by this happening to him. He was a pastor for 30 years. Then it happened and he is not doing real well. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. What starts out as very traumatic ends up being the most peace I have ever known. He will get there too.
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Post by gustaf on Nov 15, 2018 20:57:31 GMT -5
These are things revealed to those who believe. Your mind will never stumble across it. The Truth of our existence is spiritual and not of the flesh. Since you have chosen to not believe. It cannot be revealed to you. It takes FAITH, perhaps someday you will find it necessary to trust God and his Word, then you can have a Savior too! I will pray for that. I love existing in God's creation and provision. He really thought of EVERYTHING ! Praise the Lord !
Well there's where you are wrong. I didn't 'choose' to not believe. It happened and at first it scared me half to death. It can happen to anyone actually. I don't think anyone asks for it to happen. I professed at 8 and wanted to be a worker. I was a zealous little professing person. Then that door opens and it becomes evident that everything you once believed is not true, it's a pretty traumatic revelation. So don't go one like we choose not to believe because nothing is further from the truth. It can happen to anyone and it happens all the time. I am currently a mentor for people who have had this happen to them and many of them were actually pastors when it happened. We just got a new member last week and he is so traumatized by this happening to him. He was a pastor for 30 years. Then it happened and he is not doing real well. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. What starts out as very traumatic ends up being the most peace I have ever known. He will get there too. So what do you believe in? Something beyond the Holy Bible? Or just your singular experiences? My experience was that the Bible confirmed what had happened to me. Yes, don't worry your not going crazy!! It told me to not be obsessed with the though I was going crazy as the Chief Cornerstone of my existence was being laid at the age of 40 !! Why do people need you for counseling? Maybe you were focused on the workers instead of God and Truth? Anyone who is repelled by the Bible has not been enlightened as far as I can see !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 2:03:21 GMT -5
Gustaf I find your posts very confusing. In contrast Snow's are always well considered, and not critical of anybody. Snow has a great knowledge of the Bible, and very well read, and that supports the comment she makes. Snow has reached Legend status and has earned the respect of TMB members. I would suggest you observe more of her posts before you reach a conclusion.
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Post by Grant on Nov 16, 2018 2:38:55 GMT -5
Gustaf I find your posts very confusing. In contrast Snow's are always well considered, and not critical of anybody. Snow has a great knowledge of the Bible, and very well read, and that supports the comment she makes. Snow has reached Legend status and has earned the respect of TMB members. I would suggest you observe more of her posts before you reach a conclusion. Redback, a lot of people have reached Legend status but it does not mean they've earned respect nor that others agree with them. You might agree with snows beliefs and how she presents them but it does not mean others do. I didn't realize she had a good knowledge of the Bible. I haven't seen it myself. She's one of many great people on this board just like you are. And gustaf for that matter. Gusfag's opinion is as valid as anyone elses and there will be those who agree with him as much as others might agree with yours.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2018 3:09:31 GMT -5
I don't know why people think they can say the bible is right, just because the bible says it's right? That's like me saying everything I say is right, because I say it's right. Doesn't work that way though. There needs to be outside verifying evidence. And, there isn't. These are things revealed to those who believe.
Your mind will never stumble across it.
The Truth of our existence is spiritual and not of the flesh.
Since you have chosen to not believe.
It cannot be revealed to you.
It takes FAITH, perhaps someday you will find it necessary to trust God and his Word, then you can have a Savior too! I will pray for that.
I love existing in God's creation and provision.
He really thought of EVERYTHING ! Praise the Lord !
Wrong! No one just "chooses" to NOT believe!
It only comes to one after a lot of consideration.
I once DID believe!
But when I really looked behind the whole facade that I had been taught to believe, -I realized that was just what it was, -a facade, -with no more evidence behind it than there was to any other of the world's numerous gods & religions.
Some people like yourself may think that they are superior to us. You can revel in that if it makes you feel better
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2018 3:32:07 GMT -5
Well there's where you are wrong. I didn't 'choose' to not believe. It happened and at first it scared me half to death. It can happen to anyone actually. I don't think anyone asks for it to happen. I professed at 8 and wanted to be a worker. I was a zealous little professing person. Then that door opens and it becomes evident that everything you once believed is not true, it's a pretty traumatic revelation. So don't go one like we choose not to believe because nothing is further from the truth. It can happen to anyone and it happens all the time. I am currently a mentor for people who have had this happen to them and many of them were actually pastors when it happened. We just got a new member last week and he is so traumatized by this happening to him. He was a pastor for 30 years. Then it happened and he is not doing real well. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. What starts out as very traumatic ends up being the most peace I have ever known. He will get there too. So what do you believe in? Something beyond the Holy Bible? Or just your singular experiences?
My experience was that the Bible confirmed what had happened to me.
Yes, don't worry your not going crazy!! It told me to not be obsessed with the though I was going crazy as the Chief Cornerstone of my existence was being laid at the age of 40 !! Why do people need you for counseling?
Maybe you were focused on the workers instead of God and Truth?
Anyone who is repelled by the Bible has not been enlightened as far as I can see !!
It seems that you think that Snow should acknowledge your own experience as valid, -yet you question the validity of her experience when you say, "Why do people need you for counseling?"
Also questioning that maybe she "focused on the workers instead of God and Truth" seems your personal judgement against her.
If you yourself are NOT repelled by some of the things in the Bible then I wonder about your own "enlightenment."
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Post by snow on Nov 16, 2018 16:54:30 GMT -5
Well there's where you are wrong. I didn't 'choose' to not believe. It happened and at first it scared me half to death. It can happen to anyone actually. I don't think anyone asks for it to happen. I professed at 8 and wanted to be a worker. I was a zealous little professing person. Then that door opens and it becomes evident that everything you once believed is not true, it's a pretty traumatic revelation. So don't go one like we choose not to believe because nothing is further from the truth. It can happen to anyone and it happens all the time. I am currently a mentor for people who have had this happen to them and many of them were actually pastors when it happened. We just got a new member last week and he is so traumatized by this happening to him. He was a pastor for 30 years. Then it happened and he is not doing real well. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. What starts out as very traumatic ends up being the most peace I have ever known. He will get there too. So what do you believe in? Something beyond the Holy Bible? Or just your singular experiences? My experience was that the Bible confirmed what had happened to me. Yes, don't worry your not going crazy!! It told me to not be obsessed with the though I was going crazy as the Chief Cornerstone of my existence was being laid at the age of 40 !! Why do people need you for counseling? Maybe you were focused on the workers instead of God and Truth? Anyone who is repelled by the Bible has not been enlightened as far as I can see !!
To answer your first question, people who have had the epiphany that there is no god usually have a hard time accepting that at first. They know that everything they once believed in is no longer what they believe and they can't change that. So it's traumatic to say the least. It takes a worldview and turns it on its head and it's a tough place to be at first. So getting together with people who understand what that's like when it happens and have had a longer time to process it, can help those who are in the early days of their new worldview. That's why we make ourselves available to listen to them and share our journey. Many of these people come from various Christian denominations and some from other religions such as Islam. Some are actually still pastors and are afraid to let their congregations know or their families know that they no longer believe for fear of being shunned, having their children taken away etc. So there are lots of concerns when someone realizes they no longer believe. No one asks for this to happen. It just does. It can happen to anyone without warning. The bible is just one of many sacred texts written and the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is just one of many gods the world has believed in. So it's not that anyone is 'repelled' by the bible anymore than any other sacred book. They all become just literature when you realize that there is no evidence of gods existing.
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Post by gustaf on Nov 16, 2018 18:07:10 GMT -5
To answer your first question, people who have had the epiphany that there is no god usually have a hard time accepting that at first. They know that everything they once believed in is no longer what they believe and they can't change that. So it's traumatic to say the least. It takes a worldview and turns it on its head and it's a tough place to be at first. So getting together with people who understand what that's like when it happens and have had a longer time to process it, can help those who are in the early days of their new worldview. That's why we make ourselves available to listen to them and share our journey. Many of these people come from various Christian denominations and some from other religions such as Islam. Some are actually still pastors and are afraid to let their congregations know or their families know that they no longer believe for fear of being shunned, having their children taken away etc. So there are lots of concerns when someone realizes they no longer believe. No one asks for this to happen. It just does. It can happen to anyone without warning. The bible is just one of many sacred texts written and the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is just one of many gods the world has believed in. So it's not that anyone is 'repelled' by the bible anymore than any other sacred book. They all become just literature when you realize that there is no evidence of gods existing. Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door!
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Post by snow on Nov 16, 2018 18:14:11 GMT -5
To answer your first question, people who have had the epiphany that there is no god usually have a hard time accepting that at first. They know that everything they once believed in is no longer what they believe and they can't change that. So it's traumatic to say the least. It takes a worldview and turns it on its head and it's a tough place to be at first. So getting together with people who understand what that's like when it happens and have had a longer time to process it, can help those who are in the early days of their new worldview. That's why we make ourselves available to listen to them and share our journey. Many of these people come from various Christian denominations and some from other religions such as Islam. Some are actually still pastors and are afraid to let their congregations know or their families know that they no longer believe for fear of being shunned, having their children taken away etc. So there are lots of concerns when someone realizes they no longer believe. No one asks for this to happen. It just does. It can happen to anyone without warning. The bible is just one of many sacred texts written and the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is just one of many gods the world has believed in. So it's not that anyone is 'repelled' by the bible anymore than any other sacred book. They all become just literature when you realize that there is no evidence of gods existing. Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door! This is your comment not mine. However, you may think that you found the door and I didn't. At the time I certainly thought I 'found the door'. But it is somewhat like a door that opens and once it does, there is no going back to old beliefs. And, it can happen to those who, like me, thought they had found that door. I was once a believer and wanted to spread the gospel. Then it changed. I find that most who respond to what I say about how it changes without us asking for it to change, often say that I wasn't a 'real Christian'. That I never really understood. I guess it's hard to comprehend and it's likely a tad scary when we talk about it happening without us actually wanting it to happen. That it can happen to anyone and it happens when it's least expected.
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Post by gustaf on Nov 16, 2018 18:21:55 GMT -5
To answer your first question, people who have had the epiphany that there is no god usually have a hard time accepting that at first. They know that everything they once believed in is no longer what they believe and they can't change that. So it's traumatic to say the least. It takes a worldview and turns it on its head and it's a tough place to be at first. So getting together with people who understand what that's like when it happens and have had a longer time to process it, can help those who are in the early days of their new worldview. That's why we make ourselves available to listen to them and share our journey. Many of these people come from various Christian denominations and some from other religions such as Islam. Some are actually still pastors and are afraid to let their congregations know or their families know that they no longer believe for fear of being shunned, having their children taken away etc. So there are lots of concerns when someone realizes they no longer believe. No one asks for this to happen. It just does. It can happen to anyone without warning. The bible is just one of many sacred texts written and the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is just one of many gods the world has believed in. So it's not that anyone is 'repelled' by the bible anymore than any other sacred book. They all become just literature when you realize that there is no evidence of gods existing. Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door! The workers are not doing much good with their "workers gospel", the inferior "baron/fruitless" version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You need to get out past the end of your nose where you can see further than the flesh. That's my prescription for all. FAITH, not the faith of the flesh, but the FAITH in TRUTH. Fear keeps you from the hidden glories of Christ. (Faith or Fear) What do you think the liberation is in the Bible?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2018 19:07:02 GMT -5
Quote by Shanna Babilonia.
Many religious adherents have no problem understanding the irrationality of others beliefs, but are unable to apply the same logic when observing their own doctrine. Instead, every effort is made to justify why it is their – and only their – religion that is void of any fault. If they were to observe their own faith with the same set of scrutinizing eyes that they see through when evaluating other’s faiths, they would understand what many of us have already concluded – all of our religious texts were written by people, not gods. They are the stories and traditions that we created in order to explain our world in the past.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 17, 2018 0:03:05 GMT -5
Companionship? What else do you have a wife for? *** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE. Interesting.
Both the Christian God and his son are male, -no female need apply for any job.
Unless you consider the spirit (what ever THAT is since no one can describe IT very well.
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Post by nathan on Nov 17, 2018 0:21:29 GMT -5
*** Christ and the Holy Spirit are God the Father ETERNAL companions and friends. Godhead are Spirits, THEY are ONE in Unity and Harmony with each others. THEY have ONE MIND and ONE PURPOSE and that is to please each others In LOVE. Interesting.
Both the Christian God and his son are male, -no female need apply for any job.
Unless you consider the spirit (what ever THAT is since no one can describe IT very well. Jesus called the Holy Spirit "He" in John chapters 16 many times... John 16:13-15 When the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth, for HE will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 17, 2018 0:24:49 GMT -5
To answer your first question, people who have had the epiphany that there is no god usually have a hard time accepting that at first. They know that everything they once believed in is no longer what they believe and they can't change that. So it's traumatic to say the least. It takes a worldview and turns it on its head and it's a tough place to be at first. So getting together with people who understand what that's like when it happens and have had a longer time to process it, can help those who are in the early days of their new worldview. That's why we make ourselves available to listen to them and share our journey. Many of these people come from various Christian denominations and some from other religions such as Islam. Some are actually still pastors and are afraid to let their congregations know or their families know that they no longer believe for fear of being shunned, having their children taken away etc. So there are lots of concerns when someone realizes they no longer believe. No one asks for this to happen. It just does. It can happen to anyone without warning. The bible is just one of many sacred texts written and the Jewish/Christian/Islamic god is just one of many gods the world has believed in. So it's not that anyone is 'repelled' by the bible anymore than any other sacred book. They all become just literature when you realize that there is no evidence of gods existing. Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door! Gustaf, You really do need to be careful where you put an answer to someone else's post so that it doesn't appear that other person said it.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 17, 2018 1:09:28 GMT -5
Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door!
The workers are not doing much good with their "workers gospel", the inferior "baron/fruitless" version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
You need to get out past the end of your nose where you can see further than the flesh.
That's my prescription for all. FAITH, not the faith of the flesh, but the FAITH in TRUTH.
Fear keeps you from the hidden glories of Christ. (Faith or Fear)
What do you think the liberation is in the Bible?
Some people don't seem to understand the mental process that happens when a person first get glimmers of light about what religion is all about. ]For some people, -when they first hear about how & when the *TRUTH* actually began, they feel betrayed and all they can think about is finding fault.,
Then they begin to "search" for some OTHER "Christian" church they think that they can trust. But when I left I got through THAT and I went beyond that and evaluated the WHOLE Christian religion + all OTHER religions. What I saw was that all I'd be doing if I went to another church would be like "jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!"
Then when I looked into the emotional psychological reasons that people believe ANYTHING, I understood that any & ALL deities that abound had been created by ourselves in order to try & make sense of our lives and our world.
NOW THAT is the "door" that one really needs to find!
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Post by snow on Nov 17, 2018 10:51:11 GMT -5
Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door! The workers are not doing much good with their "workers gospel", the inferior "baron/fruitless" version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You need to get out past the end of your nose where you can see further than the flesh. That's my prescription for all. FAITH, not the faith of the flesh, but the FAITH in TRUTH. Fear keeps you from the hidden glories of Christ. (Faith or Fear) What do you think the liberation is in the Bible?
LOL You are the entitled to your faith. I like to have some facts backing up things up. I have been there done that and you never know. It could happen to you some day too.
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gustaf
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I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down !!!
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Post by gustaf on Nov 17, 2018 23:41:21 GMT -5
Gustaf, You really do need to be careful where you put an answer to someone else's post so that it doesn't appear that other person said it.
I apologize profusely !! My bad, I can't take it back, but it was an honest mistake. SORRY SNOW
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gustaf
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I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down !!!
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Post by gustaf on Nov 17, 2018 23:48:29 GMT -5
Sounds like you never found the door...so you say there is no door! The workers are not doing much good with their "workers gospel", the inferior "baron/fruitless" version of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You need to get out past the end of your nose where you can see further than the flesh. That's my prescription for all. FAITH, not the faith of the flesh, but the FAITH in TRUTH. Fear keeps you from the hidden glories of Christ. (Faith or Fear) What do you think the liberation is in the Bible?
LOL You are the entitled to your faith. I like to have some facts backing up things up. I have been there done that and you never know. It could happen to you some day too. I had an awesome life changing experience. It was just like in the Bible. The peril was an illusion of the flesh. Got a lot of monkeys off my back, Got some fresh air, and a new start. I highly recommend seeking the Truth with your hands off the steering wheel. (figuratively speaking of course) Its a story with a happy ending...for me! I said YES to Jesus
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