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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 12:04:57 GMT -5
all of them but one....they always wore either skirts or dresses... I didn't ask if they wore skirts or dresses @wally ... I asked did they dress like the lady workers !!! You do realize that there are dresses and skirts that would be seen as immodest !! all knee length or below....nice try trying to change the criteria....
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 8, 2018 17:51:22 GMT -5
Jetmech said,"How long do we have to tolerate man buns..." WELL!! Man buns are dated for thousands of years. BUT!! Scripturely no lady bun history,"SO", how long do you have to tolerate chignon buns,french rolls,single or double donut buns,plated buns,etc. The bible does not say you have to tolerate them,does it? So why do you? Do you cover your face with your hair during the meetings?Just a thought.MMM like those pleated skirts? Marvelous how great a hold the man made demands of the 2x2s doctrine,over women, has you by the throat with fear of those judgemental Workers. HOW SAD? I remember some Workers wearing black stockings.My Dad said they would have travelled more if Mum didn't waste nearly a hour a morning on her hair(aprox 2555 hour a year?),how many needy could you have spent those hours on,it was bondage not sacrifice,wasn't it? . Wonder what God thinks? Magpie
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 8, 2018 18:03:32 GMT -5
Just a note.
Even outside the 2x2's today, -many young women wear their hair up and no make up.
So the young women professing to today don't stand out like the "sore thumb " that we used to do.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 8, 2018 19:31:39 GMT -5
you just got done suggesting that there wasn't/should not be any example or influence from sister workers could you be more confused than you already are? @wally seriously ! We all know that in the past a lot of the friends looked to the lady workers for an example of how to dress .. you only have to look at how some of the older generation still dress to see that ! My point was young girls should NOT be expected to dress like 60 year olds...i had to dress in dowdy clothes growing up so I know how it feels. Thankfully there are very few young ones now who take the lady workers as an example of how to dress. Also parents should NOT expect their daughters to dress like the Workers ! It is true that children were dressed according to what the sisters wore. I remember even as a four y/o that my hemlines had to be two inches below my knee. Here's a toddler dressing like a little old lady. I was taught at 4y/o to pull my dress down over my knees when I sat down. The only thing that might have been age correct was my puff sleeves. When I professed at 11 y/o I was told I needed to start putting my hair up into a bun. And at conv I wore old cotton hose with seams that wouldn't stay straight on me because the hose were too big and yes they were the smallest we could find. Those hose truly was my cross and more to bear
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 8, 2018 19:38:51 GMT -5
no your point was that they were NOT dressing like the workers cause no one looked to them as an example and i beg to differ you may be able to speak for your region but thats not every region....yes there are a couple in my area that don't toe the line but thats not everyone by far.... I think those black stockings under a beautiful dress could look AWESOME! Oh, I don't think you understand, Jetmech! Those black stockings were cotton and were thick. After wearing them a few hours they'd get stretched from bending the knees and those little pockets of bulging black cotton would fall down around the ankle. If course that might depend in the brand of stockings. Those stockings were dear to those ladies because due to the war they couldn't find any nylon stockings. And they would fade in streaks and spots after being washed.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 8, 2018 19:49:28 GMT -5
Ah, Thanks, Roselyn.
You are right! They aren't wearing "dresses!" Everyone of them are wearing skirts and blouses! Wonder why?
Maye easier to get dressed more quickly than a dress or maybe, -as I have found, -more variety. You can have a lot of different blouses with the same skirt or pants.
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Noted that two of the skirts that you could see were to the ankle, -you could wear much shorter hose which would certainly be more comfortable .
I only knew one worker, a sister worker came from my area.
Reasons for skirts and blouses are number one is if one has a long trunk most dresses waistlines will hit above the waist. That is uncomfortable. Number two, it's easier to pack skirts and blouses. Number three, one can have couple blouses for the skirt, in which they can wear the skirt a day or two longer by switching blouses. And often they have a skirt from a previous suit vwhuch blouse has worn out, so they'll blouse it and wear every day and then have a newer suit for mtgs.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 8, 2018 21:09:50 GMT -5
@wally seriously ! We all know that in the past a lot of the friends looked to the lady workers for an example of how to dress .. you only have to look at how some of the older generation still dress to see that ! My point was young girls should NOT be expected to dress like 60 year olds...i had to dress in dowdy clothes growing up so I know how it feels. Thankfully there are very few young ones now who take the lady workers as an example of how to dress. Also parents should NOT expect their daughters to dress like the Workers ! It is true that children were dressed according to what the sisters wore. I remember even as a four y/o that my hemlines had to be two inches below my knee. Here's a toddler dressing like a little old lady. I was taught at 4y/o to pull my dress down over my knees when I sat down. The only thing that might have been age correct was my puff sleeves. When I professed at 11 y/o I was told I needed to start putting my hair up into a bun. And at conv I wore old cotton hose with seams that wouldn't stay straight on me because the hose were too big and yes they were the smallest we could find. Those hose truly was my cross and more to bear I remember going to convention one year with our 3 year old daughter, when the weather was cold enough that we dressed her in a warm shirt and a warm pair of bibbed pants. No one said anything to us, but we heard there were comments made about it. Anyway, she didn't have to sit 2 hours in a meeting with her legs wrapped in a blanket.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 9, 2018 0:44:34 GMT -5
I didn't ask if they wore skirts or dresses @wally ... I asked did they dress like the lady workers !!! You do realize that there are dresses and skirts that would be seen as immodest !! all knee length or below....nice try trying to change the criteria.... @wally you obviously have no idea about womens clothes.... Just because someone wears something below the knee doesn't mean they are dressing like the workers, you need to have a look at the photo and then tell me that 18 year olds are dressing like the workers in your area. I dont see too many lady workers getting around in high heel shoes, fitted skirts and sleeveless tops.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 9, 2018 0:57:59 GMT -5
all knee length or below....nice try trying to change the criteria.... @wally you obviously have no idea about womens clothes.... Just because someone wears something below the knee doesn't mean they are dressing like the workers, you need to have a look at the photo and then tell me that 18 year olds are dressing like the workers in your area. I dont see too many lady workers getting around in high heel shoes, fitted skirts and sleeveless tops. Wally's just a "knee" man.
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 9, 2018 1:00:17 GMT -5
Dimmichgood,you joking,as with the Exclusive Brethren the stand out like candles in the night.. Now 1 CORINTHIANS 11:16??? AFTER ALL THE PREVIOUS VERSES AS WITH SOMEONE WHO CHOISES NOT TO EAT MEAT,YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT. SO IF SOMEONE TURNS UP AT A MEETING OR CONVENTION AND AS THIS VERSE SAYS....KJV... IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE CONTENTIOUS ABOUT THIS,WE HAVE NO SUCH "CUSTOM",NEITHER THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU!!! must accept them,"IT IS WRITTEN",but then again the workers would loose the bondage they hold you in?? Magpie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 1:15:33 GMT -5
all knee length or below....nice try trying to change the criteria.... @wally you obviously have no idea about womens clothes.... Just because someone wears something below the knee doesn't mean they are dressing like the workers, you need to have a look at the photo and then tell me that 18 year olds are dressing like the workers in your area. I dont see too many lady workers getting around in high heel shoes, fitted skirts and sleeveless tops. yeah right, i describe some of what the workers look like and wear and that the friends do the same and that means they aren't following the workers? it sad when YOU believe that which YOUR shoveling YOU might want to be careful cause your up to your neck in the stuff....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 1:17:24 GMT -5
@wally you obviously have no idea about womens clothes.... Just because someone wears something below the knee doesn't mean they are dressing like the workers, you need to have a look at the photo and then tell me that 18 year olds are dressing like the workers in your area. I dont see too many lady workers getting around in high heel shoes, fitted skirts and sleeveless tops. Wally's just a "knee" man. nah i am more of a "calf" man....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 1:40:03 GMT -5
How long do we have to tolerate "man buns" and men wearing ear rings?!!! It's hard enough to endure tatoos and people who look like lizards!!! To quote dmmichgood ... it is all actually making me SICK!!! I'm sick of it all!!! Sounds like you're living a modern day Lot. 2 Peter 2:8 "for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard" I like to stick with Jesus on such things. John 7:24 "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly" And how do we "judge correctly"? Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." It's easier to stick with Jesus. It's such a lot of effort and time to judge after all.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 9, 2018 2:06:10 GMT -5
@wally you obviously have no idea about womens clothes.... Just because someone wears something below the knee doesn't mean they are dressing like the workers, you need to have a look at the photo and then tell me that 18 year olds are dressing like the workers in your area. I dont see too many lady workers getting around in high heel shoes, fitted skirts and sleeveless tops. yeah right, i describe some of what the workers look like and wear and that the friends do the same and that means they aren't following the workers? it sad when YOU believe that which YOUR shoveling YOU might want to be careful cause your up to your neck in the stuff.... Haha @wally I could say the same to ! Or maybe you need glasses !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 2:11:53 GMT -5
yeah right, i describe some of what the workers look like and wear and that the friends do the same and that means they aren't following the workers? it sad when YOU believe that which YOUR shoveling YOU might want to be careful cause your up to your neck in the stuff.... Haha @wally I could say the same to ! Or maybe you need glasses ! i'll give you half credit for coming up with part of your own comeback instead of just borrowing mine....kudo's
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 9, 2018 15:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 9, 2018 15:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2018 5:53:04 GMT -5
Dimmichgood,you joking,as with the Exclusive Brethren the stand out like candles in the night.. Now 1 CORINTHIANS 11:16??? AFTER ALL THE PREVIOUS VERSES AS WITH SOMEONE WHO CHOISES NOT TO EAT MEAT,YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT. SO IF SOMEONE TURNS UP AT A MEETING OR CONVENTION AND AS THIS VERSE SAYS....KJV... IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE CONTENTIOUS ABOUT THIS,WE HAVE NO SUCH "CUSTOM",NEITHER THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU!!! must accept them," IT IS WRITTEN",but then again the workers would loose the bondage they hold you in?? Magpie No, I wasn't joking. I meant what I said.
I said, "Even outside the 2x2's today, -many young women wear their hair up and no make up. So the young women professing to today don't stand out like the "sore thumb " that we used to do."
Haven't you seen a lot of young women with their hair done up on top of their heads? If you haven't , just take a look at the sports page where they are playing. Buns keep their hair out of their way when playing.
But that isn't the only place.
And a lot of young women just can't be bothered having to put on a lot makeup and if you don't believe THAT, then go to one of or great universities. Those young women have too much on their minds to bother putting a lot of stuff on their faces.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2018 5:59:30 GMT -5
Ah, Thanks, Roselyn.
You are right! They aren't wearing "dresses!" Everyone of them are wearing skirts and blouses! Wonder why?
Maye easier to get dressed more quickly than a dress or maybe, -as I have found, -more variety. You can have a lot of different blouses with the same skirt or pants.
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Noted that two of the skirts that you could see were to the ankle, -you could wear much shorter hose which would certainly be more comfortable .
I only knew one worker, a sister worker came from my area.
Reasons for skirts and blouses are number one is if one has a long trunk most dresses waistlines will hit above the waist. That is uncomfortable. Number two, it's easier to pack skirts and blouses. Number three, one can have couple blouses for the skirt, in which they can wear the skirt a day or two longer by switching blouses. And often they have a skirt from a previous suit vwhuch blouse has worn out, so they'll blouse it and wear every day and then have a newer suit for mtgs. That is a good reason as well.
But When you really stop to think about it , I wonder how many women anywhere today wear dresses?
I have some dresses but seldom wear them.
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Post by tuesday on Nov 10, 2018 6:07:58 GMT -5
Dimmichgood,you joking,as with the Exclusive Brethren the stand out like candles in the night.. Now 1 CORINTHIANS 11:16??? AFTER ALL THE PREVIOUS VERSES AS WITH SOMEONE WHO CHOISES NOT TO EAT MEAT,YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT. SO IF SOMEONE TURNS UP AT A MEETING OR CONVENTION AND AS THIS VERSE SAYS....KJV... IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE CONTENTIOUS ABOUT THIS,WE HAVE NO SUCH "CUSTOM",NEITHER THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU!!! must accept them," IT IS WRITTEN",but then again the workers would loose the bondage they hold you in?? Magpie No, I wasn't joking. I meant what I said.
I said, "Even outside the 2x2's today, -many young women wear their hair up and no make up. So the young women professing to today don't stand out like the "sore thumb " that we used to do."
Haven't you seen a lot of young women with their hair done up on top of their heads? If you haven't , just take a look at the sports page where they are playing. Buns keep their hair out of their way when playing.
But that isn't the only place.
And a lot of young women just can't be bothered having to put on a lot makeup and if you don't believe THAT, then go to one of or great universities. Those young women have too much on their minds to bother putting a lot of stuff on their faces.I also think wearing "vintage" clothing is becoming more popular and fashionable, for both professing and for non-professing people. Perhaps this is beginning to blur the lines between those who are trying to be fashionable and those who are actively trying not to be fashionable...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 6:08:51 GMT -5
Reasons for skirts and blouses are number one is if one has a long trunk most dresses waistlines will hit above the waist. That is uncomfortable. Number two, it's easier to pack skirts and blouses. Number three, one can have couple blouses for the skirt, in which they can wear the skirt a day or two longer by switching blouses. And often they have a skirt from a previous suit vwhuch blouse has worn out, so they'll blouse it and wear every day and then have a newer suit for mtgs. That is a good reason as well.
But When you really stop to think about it , I wonder how many women anywhere today wear dresses?
I have some dresses but seldom wear them.i'd say less than 10% wear dresses any more except for on sundays when the number goes a bit higher....and of course the friends and pentecostals have a higher percentage....
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2018 6:16:14 GMT -5
No, I wasn't joking. I meant what I said.
I said, "Even outside the 2x2's today, -many young women wear their hair up and no make up. So the young women professing to today don't stand out like the "sore thumb " that we used to do."
Haven't you seen a lot of young women with their hair done up on top of their heads? If you haven't , just take a look at the sports page where they are playing. Buns keep their hair out of their way when playing.
But that isn't the only place.
And a lot of young women just can't be bothered having to put on a lot makeup and if you don't believe THAT, then go to one of or great universities. Those young women have too much on their minds to bother putting a lot of stuff on their faces. I also think wearing "vintage" clothing is becoming more popular and fashionable, for both professing and for non-professing people. Perhaps this is beginning to blur the lines between those who are trying to be fashionable and those who are actively trying not to be fashionable... Yes, I have a 1930's vintage "house wife's" dress that I just love to wear; and another long "hippie" type! It's fun to watch people stare!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 10, 2018 11:25:24 GMT -5
Reasons for skirts and blouses are number one is if one has a long trunk most dresses waistlines will hit above the waist. That is uncomfortable. Number two, it's easier to pack skirts and blouses. Number three, one can have couple blouses for the skirt, in which they can wear the skirt a day or two longer by switching blouses. And often they have a skirt from a previous suit vwhuch blouse has worn out, so they'll blouse it and wear every day and then have a newer suit for mtgs. That is a good reason as well.
But When you really stop to think about it , I wonder how many women anywhere today wear dresses?
I have some dresses but seldom wear them.There are many who wear dresses according to the online companies. I think in England dresses are preferred. You don't see many women in skirts and blouses. Fact is you don't see that many women in a suit. I see that all women in the British Isles cater to dresses. In Africa amongst the average to rich classes, you see dresses. I don't wear dresses because I'm long waisted and I hate to have to keep trying to pull the waist down and I suppose empire waisted dresses are okay, but I look pregnant in them and I'm a bit too old for that. 😕
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 10, 2018 11:31:25 GMT -5
Dimmichgood,you joking,as with the Exclusive Brethren the stand out like candles in the night.. Now 1 CORINTHIANS 11:16??? AFTER ALL THE PREVIOUS VERSES AS WITH SOMEONE WHO CHOISES NOT TO EAT MEAT,YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT. SO IF SOMEONE TURNS UP AT A MEETING OR CONVENTION AND AS THIS VERSE SAYS....KJV... IF ANYONE WANTS TO BE CONTENTIOUS ABOUT THIS,WE HAVE NO SUCH "CUSTOM",NEITHER THE CHURCH OF GOD. YOU!!! must accept them," IT IS WRITTEN",but then again the workers would loose the bondage they hold you in?? Magpie No, I wasn't joking. I meant what I said.
I said, "Even outside the 2x2's today, -many young women wear their hair up and no make up. So the young women professing to today don't stand out like the "sore thumb " that we used to do."
Haven't you seen a lot of young women with their hair done up on top of their heads? If you haven't , just take a look at the sports page where they are playing. Buns keep their hair out of their way when playing.
But that isn't the only place.
And a lot of young women just can't be bothered having to put on a lot makeup and if you don't believe THAT, then go to one of or great universities. Those young women have too much on their minds to bother putting a lot of stuff on their faces. Going without makeup is a fairly recent fad. And the barely there makeup is a big seller.
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Post by havejoy on Nov 10, 2018 20:02:16 GMT -5
So a 18 year old girl should dress like a 60 year old worker @wally ? if thats the example thats the example.... Wow, so what happened to following your own choices or following your own "convictions" Every single person has their own personality and the change that to "conform" to something that isn't biblical ( if you are following the bible) is just crazy. We are all individuals and SO different. Its NOT about the outward appearances. I will jump up and down the day the 2x2's realize this. Uugh this just aggravates every part of my being. So over it. Rant over.
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Post by havejoy on Nov 10, 2018 20:03:24 GMT -5
So in your opinion are young girls suppose to dress like the ladies workers in the picture jetmech ? Are you jealous of the beauty of the younger girls? Yes they're suppossed to dress modestly. My sisters did. There are so many more modest choices then how the sister workers Dress.
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Post by gsamuelwalker on Nov 10, 2018 20:05:57 GMT -5
well they are dressing that way for an example aren't they? So a 18 year old girl should dress like a 60 year old worker @wally ? It was a fad then. Why do you care about another man or woman’s hair style anyhow? Nothing better or more productive to do? It seems like it’s none of your business and certainly has nothing to do with anyone’s salvation.
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Post by gsamuelwalker on Nov 10, 2018 20:09:45 GMT -5
well they are dressing that way for an example aren't they? So a 18 year old girl should dress like a 60 year old worker @wally ? Why do you care about another man or woman’s hair style or their choice of clothing anyhow? Nothing better or more productive to do? It seems like it’s none of your business and certainly has nothing to do with anyone’s salvation.
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