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Post by speak on Nov 1, 2018 22:29:10 GMT -5
why would i want their jobs? i'm retired. Then what's your problem with a few thousand refugees? They don't need anything from you. Who said I have a problem with them?
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Post by speak on Nov 1, 2018 22:34:16 GMT -5
It is tragic that the 2x2 Church is so uncompassionate. They never cared for the under privileged in their own congregation, and never a thought for "Outsiders". They sure got the charity part wrong, and should have followed the example set by main stream Churches. Just another way they got it wrong. You have no idea about who we help or care for. The problem for you is you don't know what we do and care for because we don't make a big to do about it, but I suppose you are going by your own experience of what you did while in the fellowship.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 1, 2018 22:36:03 GMT -5
I have no idea where you live & I do not have the money to fly them anywhere but how very generous of you to ask someone else to fly them for you!
( as well as allow yourself an escape from your commitment)
I live in NZ and like you I don't have the money Oh and by the way thanks for switching it back to about me You are welcome, -but didn't you mean it about yourself to start with ?
You know, -"holier than thou?"
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 1, 2018 23:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 0:18:18 GMT -5
remember when you point that finger there are 3 more pointed back at you....not biblical but very appropriate....
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 2, 2018 0:40:35 GMT -5
remember when you point that finger there are 3 more pointed back at you....not biblical but very appropriate.... Oh, Wally!
If you can't do any better than using that old chestnut to answer someone, -why don't you just refrain from answering?
Why did we only recognize and see ourselves as the only true way? -long before that we even knew we were Irvin followers? ?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 2, 2018 0:46:27 GMT -5
It is tragic that the 2x2 Church is so uncompassionate. They never cared for the under privileged in their own congregation, and never a thought for "Outsiders". They sure got the charity part wrong, and should have followed the example set by main stream Churches. Just another way they got it wrong. You have no idea about who we help or care for. The problem for you is you don't know what we do and care for because we don't make a big to do about it, but I suppose you are going by your own experience of what you did while in the fellowship. Well, you are right in one thing.
You must not make "a big do about it."
Because it wasn't very well known.
It must not be a communal affair with others in the fellowship or we would have known wouldn't we?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 0:51:35 GMT -5
remember when you point that finger there are 3 more pointed back at you....not biblical but very appropriate.... Oh, Wally!
If you can't do any better than using that old chestnut to answer someone, -why don't you just refrain from answering?
Why did we only recognize and see ourselves as the only true way? -long before that we even knew we were Irvin followers? ?
yeah right, i was spot on again....
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Post by speak on Nov 2, 2018 1:32:11 GMT -5
You have no idea about who we help or care for. The problem for you is you don't know what we do and care for because we don't make a big to do about it, but I suppose you are going by your own experience of what you did while in the fellowship. Well, you are right in one thing.
You must not make "a big do about it."
Because it wasn't very well known.
It must not be a communal affair with others in the fellowship or we would have known wouldn't we?And pray tell, why do you need to know anyway?
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Post by dumbjohn on Nov 2, 2018 1:32:13 GMT -5
Who we are doesn’t matter. Never seem to agree with everyone or have them agree with us. From what we read here, it will be even worse here.
As we are not wealthy nor important in life we think there is very little we can do in life to help 5000 illegal immigrants. However having been a type of immigrant we grieve for those who may be honest widows and children in that group and genuinely seeking asylum. We have written President Trump and USA Authoritees to offer a home and place for them to live with us should such a family be found legally seeking asylum here in the USA. We are able to communicate with them and be of help in many ways, so we will wait and see if any should be found to qualify.
We find it sad that people anywhere are quick to find fault yet very slow to try to be part of a solution. Adios.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 2, 2018 1:34:59 GMT -5
Well, you are right in one thing.
You must not make "a big do about it."
Because it wasn't very well known.
It must not be a communal affair with others in the fellowship or we would have known wouldn't we? And pray tell, why do you need to know anyway? I don't.
You can keep it as secret as you like.
That way, -no one need know,
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 2, 2018 1:46:24 GMT -5
Who we are doesn’t matter. Never seem to agree with everyone or have them agree with us. From what we read here, it will be even worse here. As we are not wealthy nor important in life we think there is very little we can do in life to help 5000 illegal immigrants. However having been a type of immigrant we grieve for those who may be honest widows and children in that group and genuinely seeking asylum. We have written President Trump and USA Authoritees to offer a home and place for them to live with us should such a family be found legally seeking asylum here in the USA. We are able to communicate with them and be of help in many ways, so we will wait and see if any should be found to qualify. We find it sad that people anywhere are quick to find fault yet very slow to try to be part of a solution. Adios. Thank you. You have shown once more that one doesn't need to be "wealthy" to be caring and make a difference in someone's life.
You are an example to all of us.
Thank you very much.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 2, 2018 1:53:44 GMT -5
I didn't post them for you anyway. i believe i was talking to magpie not you bob.... Sorry.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 2, 2018 1:57:20 GMT -5
Then what's your problem with a few thousand refugees? They don't need anything from you. Who said I have a problem with them? No one. I figured it from your apparent defense of people who are scoffing at the refugees in Mexico.
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Post by speak on Nov 2, 2018 20:24:24 GMT -5
Who said I have a problem with them? No one. I figured it from your apparent defense of people who are scoffing at the refugees in Mexico. Who was scoffing?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 2, 2018 22:22:05 GMT -5
No one. I figured it from your apparent defense of people who are scoffing at the refugees in Mexico. Who was scoffing? If you don't know who is "scoffing," speak, - you must not be paying much attention.
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Post by speak on Nov 3, 2018 0:32:50 GMT -5
If you don't know who is "scoffing," speak, - you must not be paying much attention. Just an answer would be nice "Bob"
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 3, 2018 14:03:47 GMT -5
No one. I figured it from your apparent defense of people who are scoffing at the refugees in Mexico. Who was scoffing? You. If you want to convince me otherwise, tell me how you feel about refugees.
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Post by Gene on Nov 3, 2018 18:37:04 GMT -5
Who we are doesn’t matter. Never seem to agree with everyone or have them agree with us. From what we read here, it will be even worse here. As we are not wealthy nor important in life we think there is very little we can do in life to help 5000 illegal immigrants. However having been a type of immigrant we grieve for those who may be honest widows and children in that group and genuinely seeking asylum. We have written President Trump and USA Authoritees to offer a home and place for them to live with us should such a family be found legally seeking asylum here in the USA. We are able to communicate with them and be of help in many ways, so we will wait and see if any should be found to qualify. We find it sad that people anywhere are quick to find fault yet very slow to try to be part of a solution. Adios. Thank you for your outreach and charity, Dennis. You're more generous than I.
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Post by speak on Nov 3, 2018 21:31:30 GMT -5
You. If you want to convince me otherwise, tell me how you feel about refugees. How was I scoffing?
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 5, 2018 1:14:35 GMT -5
You. If you want to convince me otherwise, tell me how you feel about refugees. How was I scoffing? Tell me how you feel about refugees walking through Mexico.
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Post by Lee on Nov 7, 2018 1:47:13 GMT -5
I'll tell you how I feel.
If America's such a place people aspire to belong to, it behooves America to define lawful immigration and enforce it.
My parents taught English in Chinese schools, concomitantly with their efforts to seed the 2x2 church.
Their advise to their materialistically orientated students (as they envied stories of Western wealth): Be patriotic, and be the change you want to see.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 7, 2018 2:21:52 GMT -5
I'll tell you how I feel. If America's such a place people aspire to belong to, it behooves America to define lawful immigration and enforce it. My parents taught English in Chinese schools, concomitantly with their efforts to seed the 2x2 church. Their advise to their materialistically orientated students (as they envied stories of Western wealth): Be patriotic, and be the change you want to see. Do you not realize that America already has well defined lawful immigration? It does -- otherwise there would not be such a thing as an "undocumented immigrant". There are two glaring problems with the immigration situation in this country: (1) Present law is so highly restricted that it very ineffectively complements the labor and skills needs of the US. (2) The present administration has so perverted the meanings and provisions of the present law that Americans have no understanding of the gross incompetence and chaos that exists in the whole immigration system. Example: Non-English speaking children without any counsel are being directed in immigration court to waive their right of representation while the court decides what to do with them. But then, who even wants to know about it, much less care or do something about it?
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Post by Lee on Nov 7, 2018 12:36:55 GMT -5
Why hasnt current imigration policy been enforced? Why must a nations policies be politicized, apart from a cultural assumption, that some nations have it "going on" according to a progressive assumption, that others lack?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 7, 2018 12:52:50 GMT -5
?? That is hardly the point!
Magpie is right.
If they tried to do a EKG on you, wally, -they'd have a terrible time even trying to FIND your heart!How many are you going to take in? The situation is really bad. Here we have a President who is a child if migrants. In fact, his own wife is a naturalized migrant and just this year her own migrant parents were naturalized. The critical irony is a barely American president is refusing to assist migrants who know they aren't welcome but see it as the only chance they have for a decent life, or not have to work for the drug cartels and be a Hitman for them or have the cartel's hitmen kill them. Why not quit sending money to their native countries and use that money to train and secure experienced military so they can return to their home country and take it back from the corruption? Or use that money to help train these people how to fend for themselves in their own country?
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Post by speak on Nov 7, 2018 16:27:16 GMT -5
Tell me how you feel about refugees walking through Mexico. How about you answer my question first then I will tell what you want to know.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 7, 2018 21:21:24 GMT -5
It is tragic that the 2x2 Church is so uncompassionate. They never cared for the under privileged in their own congregation, and never a thought for "Outsiders". They sure got the charity part wrong, and should have followed the example set by main stream Churches. Just another way they got it wrong. You have no idea about who we help or care for. The problem for you is you don't know what we do and care for because we don't make a big to do about it, but I suppose you are going by your own experience of what you did while in the fellowship. The world looks for acknowledging their good deeds. IMO that means that's it for them, they've receive their hour of noterity! Kinda like those in the Bible who came to Jesus telling him of all their great deeds. They'd given themselves a pat in the back, this their hour of noterity. But they thought they could use it to force Jesus to repay them with salvation. But Jesus didn't know them. Jesus also spoke about those who'd give a drink to a needy one in Christ's name wouldn't be forgotten.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 7, 2018 22:09:45 GMT -5
Tell me how you feel about refugees walking through Mexico. How about you answer my question first then I will tell what you want to know. Not that concerned about how you feel about them.
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