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Post by reborn on Oct 24, 2018 19:09:00 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement?
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 24, 2018 21:13:09 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement? What kind of help do you suggest? No, evangelical doesn't appear in the Bible. But the process was described in the Bible. The English language inherited the term from ancient Greek, via the French évangilique which means dedication to the spread of the gospel.
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Post by magpie1 on Oct 24, 2018 21:47:18 GMT -5
Ephesians 4:11/12---It was "HE"who gave gifts to mankind;"He"appointed some to be apostles,others to be prophets,others to be evangelists,others to be pastors and teachers. "He" did this to prepare "ALL" God's people for the work of Christian service in order to build up the "BODY OF CHRIST". (Church). Magpie xxx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 22:18:49 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement? well evangelical might not be there but evangelist is they are not that different... Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: evangelical: a member of the evangelical tradition in the Christian Church. evangelist: a person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching
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Post by openingact34 on Oct 24, 2018 22:27:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 22:33:46 GMT -5
especially militant as of late are things not going as planned after you left the 2x2's?
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Post by reborn on Oct 24, 2018 22:55:14 GMT -5
The concern is not for myself as I am not a Evangelical Christian. I do have concerns for others in my social circle who do refer to themselves as Evangelical Christians.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 0:07:02 GMT -5
The concern is not for myself as I am not a Evangelical Christian. I do have concerns for others in my social circle who do refer to themselves as Evangelical Christians. are you not liking the gospel to be preached? whats the draw back here?
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2018 0:25:20 GMT -5
The concern is not for myself as I am not a Evangelical Christian. I do have concerns for others in my social circle who do refer to themselves as Evangelical Christians. www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/evangelicalevangelicalEvangelical is a word to describe anyone who is super enthusiastic about something. You might meet an evangelical Christian or an evangelical cheerleader, or even an evangelical Christian cheerleader. Evangelical is an adjective originally used to describe a relationship to a particular school of Protestantism. More generally, evangelical is used to describe a strict belief in the Christian gospel and an emphasis on personal conversion to Christianity. Outside of church, the adjective evangelical can describe someone who is an extremely enthusiastic or zealous about a particular cause. An evangelical supporter of something will speak passionately and try very hard to get you to convert to their cause.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 25, 2018 15:45:18 GMT -5
There are evangelicals amongst any group , including atheists . I have heard the question about Christians , “ are they evangelical Christians “ but I don’t recall being asked about an atheist whether they are evangelical or not , although not difficult to recognize . There are organizations ,(“churches”), devoted to evangelical atheism . Alvin An evangelical atheist is an atheist who is not content merely with his own lack of faith but is also obsessed with (i) censoring expressions of faith by others and (ii) attempting to sow disbelief in others around him. www.conservapedia.com/Evangelical_atheist
Interesting, -I had never heard the term before.
What (“churches”) are devoted to evangelical atheism ?
Slowtosee, - this what I found about your source:
https://www.conservapedia.com
Conservapedia From Wikipedia,
Conservapedia is an English-language wiki encyclopedia project written from an American conservative point of view.
The website was started in 2006 by American homeschool teacher and attorney Andrew Schlafly, son of conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly to counter what he perceived as a liberal bias present in Wikipedia It uses editorials and a wiki-based system to generate content.
Examples of Conservapedia's ideology include its accusations against and strong criticism of former U.S. President Barack Obama - including its refusal to accept that he was born in Hawaii,[7] atheism, homosexuality, the Democratic Party, evolution, and Wikipedia's alleged liberal bias.
Furthermore, it views the theory of relativity as promoting moral relativism, claims there is a proven link between abortion and breast cancer, praises a number of Republican politicians, supports celebrities and artistic works that it views as advocating moral standards in line with Christian family values, and accepts fundamentalist Christian doctrines such as Young Earth creationism.
Conservapedia's "Conservative Bible Project" is a crowd-sourced version of the Bible which Conservapedia claims will be "free of corruption by liberal untruths".[11]
The site has received negative reactions from the mainstream media, as well as from notable political figures, including commentators and journalists;[12][13] and has been criticized by liberal and conservative critics alike for bias and inaccuracies.
www.conservapedia.com/Evangelical_atheist
Evangelical atheist
An evangelical atheist is an atheist who is not content merely with his own lack of faith but is also obsessed with (i) censoring expressions of faith by others and (ii) attempting to sow disbelief in others around him.
Examples of techniques used by evangelical atheists include:
>insisting that morality is independent of religion
>claiming that goodness is not achieved through attending religious services or reading the Bible > denying the atrocities committed by anti-Christian zealots
>denying any correlation between crime, depression, anxiety, immorality, insanity and rejection of Christianity
> insisting that it is hypocrisy for a sinner to attend church
>utilizing deceit if it advances atheistic goals >criticizing religious institutions even though secular institutions are worse[1]
>claiming to be smarter or superior than people who have faith
>using Darwinism as a weapon against Christianity
Some of these are outright lies.
Others use derogatory language in an attempt denigrate atheists and atheism.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 25, 2018 18:34:22 GMT -5
There are evangelicals amongst any group , including atheists . I have heard the question about Christians , “ are they evangelical Christians “ but I don’t recall being asked about an atheist whether they are evangelical or not , although not difficult to recognize . There are organizations ,(“churches”), devoted to evangelical atheism . Alvin An evangelical atheist is an atheist who is not content merely with his own lack of faith but is also obsessed with (i) censoring expressions of faith by others and (ii) attempting to sow disbelief in others around him. www.conservapedia.com/Evangelical_atheistKinda makes one think about the fervor of our resident atheists. 😉
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Post by Lee on Oct 25, 2018 20:40:02 GMT -5
The concern is not for myself as I am not a Evangelical Christian. I do have concerns for others in my social circle who do refer to themselves as Evangelical Christians. What are they doing or not doing?
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Post by magpie1 on Oct 26, 2018 5:31:12 GMT -5
How the #$%^&,did atheists get into this? Preacher declares the Gospel,has preached,is preaching and where is the other gifts Jesus gave to the Church(His Body). An evangelist,also declares the gospel(as a preacher they) evangelises via their life ,word,song,prose,worship,music,etc and supporting the "whole body" of Christ,worldwide. NOW SEEING IT WAS JESUS WHO GAVE ALL THOSE GIFTS TO HIS BODY THE CHURCH,WHERE HAS ANYONE BEEN GIVEN DEVINE RIGHT TO DECLARE PREACHING IS THE COMPLETE MINISTRY FOR THE CHURCH???>>>>SO TO BE EVANGELICAL OFFENDS THE BLINDED WHO DON"T WANT TO SEE BEYOND A LIMITED TEACHINGS OF AN EXCLUSIVE SECT,ONE GIFT ONLY MINISTRY WHEN "ALL" THOSE GIFTS SHOULD BE AMONGST YOU, SHOULDN"T THEY>>>>>>>>>>>>> "WHY NOT??" NO WONDER 2x2s CHANGE A SUBJECT THAT REFERS "TO TRUE" JESUS AND THE EPISTLE TEACHINGS?? "" "Real, SCARED OF WORDS, AREN'T" THEY?? "Get" out there and be a bit evangelical,God's Holy Spirit can THROW OFF THOSE STARCHY POINTS OF IRVINISM"S HERESY OF ONLY WAY MINISTRY BONDAGE. .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuuZMg6NVeA .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw8_L6a2kUU .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuDI-sk2nJU (Well somewhere between but you must be also evangelical) Magpie. PS You can preach on any subject,can't you,but all meanings of the Evangelical missions/ministries word Evangelist points to "declaring the gospel..
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Post by magpie1 on Oct 26, 2018 6:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by magpie1 on Oct 26, 2018 6:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 23:31:20 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement? I'm going on a limb and guessing you're professing? When we were going to meetings, any word that sounded to "worldly" got lumped into the catch - all bin of "false religion". In essence, if the workers and pillars weren't saying it, it was part of false religion. The workers are in theory evangelical (though to claim they're not at this point in history it's probably more accurate). Likewise, the <friends/truth/fellowship /2x2s/true way/Christian Conventions> are technically "Baptists" (though not affiliated), since they practice full immersion baptism. If you're professing, these terms (especially when accompanied with odd worldly things like talking about Jesus) can sound strange to the ears.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 27, 2018 0:12:48 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement? I'm going on a limb and guessing you're professing? When we were going to meetings, any word that sounded to "worldly" got lumped into the catch - all bin of "false religion". In essence, if the workers and pillars weren't saying it, it was part of false religion. The workers are in theory evangelical (though to claim they're not at this point in history it's probably more accurate). Likewise, the <friends/truth/fellowship /2x2s/true way/Christian Conventions> are technically "Baptists" (though not affiliated), since they practice full immersion baptism. If you're professing, these terms (especially when accompanied with odd worldly things like talking about Jesus) can sound strange to the ears. I saw the legal documents of a Scottish worker who had come to Canada to preach. He had registered himself as an "evangelist" as a profession.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 27, 2018 0:21:03 GMT -5
"Urban Dictionary" is devoted to non standard English, street and student slang. It's not intended to be used as a guide to standard usage.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 27, 2018 3:06:27 GMT -5
www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/evangelicalevangelicalEvangelical is a word to describe anyone who is super enthusiastic about something. You might meet an evangelical Christian or an evangelical cheerleader, or even an evangelical Christian cheerleader. Evangelical is an adjective originally used to describe a relationship to a particular school of Protestantism. More generally, evangelical is used to describe a strict belief in the Christian gospel and an emphasis on personal conversion to Christianity. Outside of church, the adjective evangelical can describe someone who is an extremely enthusiastic or zealous about a particular cause. An evangelical supporter of something will speak passionately and try very hard to get you to convert to their cause. Dmmichgood, Good definitions , and helpful to understand the term “evangelical atheist “. Alvin Except of course, -atheism, -being a non-belief, -doesn't need to "evangelize."
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Post by magpie1 on Oct 27, 2018 15:57:35 GMT -5
Evangel (simple)=GOSPEL!! Teach it,your an Evangelist,to follow that Evangel (=Gospel) teaching means that you are Evangelical,doesn't it?(see simple) Magpie
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 17:18:02 GMT -5
Dmmichgood, Good definitions , and helpful to understand the term “evangelical atheist “. Alvin Except of course, -atheism, -being a non-belief, -doesn't need to "evangelize." you preach atheism all over this forum...
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 27, 2018 17:40:17 GMT -5
Except of course, -atheism, -being a non-belief, -doesn't need to "evangelize." you preach atheism all over this forum... preach verb [ I/T ] (SPEAK IN CHURCH) to give a religious speech: [ T ] The minister preached a sermon on the need for forgiveness. preach verb [ I/T ] (PERSUADE) to try to persuade other people to do or accept something: [ T ] Should Liddy be allowed to preach hatred? To preach is also to try to persuade other people to have particular beliefs or behave in particular ways: [ I ] My mother’s always preaching at me about studying harder. I really don't "preach" atheism.
I post what is impossible to believe about any religion.
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Post by Grant on Oct 27, 2018 17:55:48 GMT -5
That's preaching athiesm dmmg.
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Post by nathan on Oct 27, 2018 19:18:09 GMT -5
ALL workers and the friends are evangelists... Both callings are good gospels story tellers (in Gospel meetings, Sunday morning, Wed. night Bible studies) than others... Many of the friends are evangelists also just like Philip/follower of Jesus, he was NOT an apostle. The workers are pastors, so are the Saints/Friends such as Aquilla and Prisilla were the church elders... God has given the workers the friends similar gifts of ministry but each has special to fill where they are whether a worker/apostle or the saints/friends.
A Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Evangelist
A "publisher of glad tidings;" a missionary preacher of the gospel ( Ephesians 4:11 ). This title is applied to Philip ( Acts 21:8 ), who appears to have gone from city to city preaching the word ( Acts 8:4 Acts 8:40 ). Judging from the case of Philip, evangelists had neither the authority of an apostle, nor the gift of prophecy, nor the responsibility of pastoral supervision over a portion of the flock. They were itinerant preachers, having it as their special function to carry the gospel to places where it was previously unknown. The writers of the four Gospels are known as the Evangelists.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 27, 2018 19:31:42 GMT -5
That's preaching athiesm dmmg. But it's not preaching "the gospel" -- it can't be called evangelizing if it's not preaching the "good news gospel". Why degrade the gospel word by associating it with atheism?
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Post by Grant on Oct 27, 2018 20:03:56 GMT -5
Read dmmgs definition of preach Bob. Preach verb Persuade.
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Post by nathan on Oct 27, 2018 20:08:29 GMT -5
Evangelical- A word never found in the Bible. Any thoughts on how to help others who have found themselves in this movement? ALL workers and the friends are evangelists... Both callings are good gospels story tellers (in Gospel meetings, Sunday morning, Wed. night Bible studies) than others... Many of the friends are evangelists also just like Philip/follower of Jesus, he was NOT an apostle. The workers are pastors, so are the Saints/Friends such as Aquilla and Prisilla were the church elders... God has given the workers the friends similar gifts of ministry but each has special to fill where they are whether a worker/apostle or the saints/friends.
Eph 4:11-14 And he/Jesus gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive... A Dictionaries - Easton's Bible Dictionary - Evangelist A "publisher of glad tidings;" a missionary preacher of the gospel ( Ephesians 4:11 ). This title is applied to Philip ( Acts 21:8 ), who appears to have gone from city to city preaching the word ( Acts 8:4 Acts 8:40 ). Judging from the case of Philip, evangelists had neither the authority of an apostle, nor the gift of prophecy, nor the responsibility of pastoral supervision over a portion of the flock. They were itinerant preachers, having it as their special function to carry the gospel to places where it was previously unknown. The writers of the four Gospels are known as the Evangelists.
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Post by BobWilliston on Oct 27, 2018 20:31:15 GMT -5
Read dmmgs definition of preach Bob. Preach verb Persuade. I know what preach means. I was just emphasizing for readers of this thread that interjecting "atheism" into the discussion of "evangelical" is just not appropriate. On the other hand, perhaps I should remind people that there is an important difference between "persuade" and "explain". I perceive that when anyone on here tries to explain something about Christians don't understand, Christians interpret it as persuading. But then, those are usually the same people who really don't want ANYONE to know what they themselves don't "know".
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