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Nov 26, 2018 3:45:18 GMT -5
Post by dmmichgood on Nov 26, 2018 3:45:18 GMT -5
Why, I wonder, -am I thinking that those particular ones are the ONLY ones that you have ever read wally,- and that you didn't read them from the “The Federalist Papers?” i have copy in my home of the federalist papers so no cigar for you... Having a "copy in my home of the federalist papers" -does not mean that you have read ANY of it except the part that is so important to you, -the part about owning a gun!
I don't smoke, it is bad for your health, so thanks for the "no cigar."
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Nov 26, 2018 13:28:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 13:28:42 GMT -5
i have copy in my home of the federalist papers so no cigar for you... Having a "copy in my home of the federalist papers" -does not mean that you have read ANY of it except the part that is so important to you, -the part about owning a gun!
I don't smoke, it is bad for your health, so thanks for the "no cigar."enjoy your delusion its suits you...
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Nov 27, 2018 2:00:23 GMT -5
Post by dmmichgood on Nov 27, 2018 2:00:23 GMT -5
Having a "copy in my home of the federalist papers" -does not mean that you have read ANY of it except the part that is so important to you, -the part about owning a gun!
I don't smoke, it is bad for your health, so thanks for the "no cigar." enjoy your delusion its suits you... Ok.
You may have The Federalist Papers in your house " -but I would bet any amount of money that you have only read the ones that pertain to gun ownership and you have those only because of the NRA (National Rifle Association) gave them to you as what they perceive, (wrongly) as the right for any individual's right to own a gun.
The Federalist Papers
The Federalist (later known as The Federalist Papers) is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the United States Constitution.
The first 77 of these essays were published serially in the Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between October 1787 and April 1788.[1]
A two-volume compilation of these 77 essays and eight others was published as The Federalist: A Collection of Essays, Written in Favour of the New Constitution, as Agreed upon by the Federal Convention, September 17, 1787 by publishing firm J. & A. McLean in March and May 1788 The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century.
The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify the Constitution.
In "Federalist No. 1", they explicitly set that debate in broad political terms:
"It has been frequently remarked, that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not, of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend, for their political constitutions, on accident and force."
Federalist No. 10" is generally regarded as the most important of the 85 articles from a philosophical perspective. In it, Madison discusses the means of preventing rule by majority faction and advocates a large, commercial republic. This is complemented by "Federalist No. 14", in which Madison takes the measure of the United States, declares it appropriate for an extended republic, and concludes with a memorable defense of the constitutional and political creativity of the Federal Convention.[5]
In "Federalist No. 84", Hamilton makes the case that there is no need to amend the Constitution by adding a Bill of Rights, insisting that the various provisions in the proposed Constitution protecting liberty amount to a "bill of rights".
"Federalist No. 78", also written by Hamilton, lays the groundwork for the doctrine of judicial review by federal courts of federal legislation or executive acts.
"Federalist No. 70" presents Hamilton's case for a one-man chief executive.
In "Federalist No. 39", Madison presents the clearest exposition of what has come to be called "Federalism".
In "Federalist No. 51", Madison distills arguments for checks and balances in an essay often quoted for its justification of government as "the greatest of all reflections on human nature."
According to historian Richard B. Morris, the essays that make up The Federalist Papers are an "incomparable exposition of the Constitution, a classic in political science unsurpassed in both breadth and depth by the product of any later American writer."[6] from wiki Now those may sound easy to understand but if it takes an adult (my daughter) who already has a degree from the The University of Chicago to feel that she take further classes in order to fully understand The Federalist Papers, -then it sounds as if neither you nor I would not be able to understand them as well as we might like to believe we can.
They seem to be exceptionally needful for us to understand at this critical period in time.
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Nov 27, 2018 2:29:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 2:29:42 GMT -5
enjoy your delusion its suits you... Ok.
You may have The Federalist Papers in your house " -but I would bet any amount of money that you have only read the ones that pertain to gun ownership and you have those only because of the NRA (National Rifle Association) gave them to you as what they perceive, (wrongly) as the right for any individual's right to own a gun.
The Federalist Papers
The Federalist (later known as The Federalist Papers) is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the United States Constitution.
The first 77 of these essays were published serially in the Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between October 1787 and April 1788.[1]
A two-volume compilation of these 77 essays and eight others was published as The Federalist: A Collection of Essays, Written in Favour of the New Constitution, as Agreed upon by the Federal Convention, September 17, 1787 by publishing firm J. & A. McLean in March and May 1788 The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century.
The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify the Constitution.
In "Federalist No. 1", they explicitly set that debate in broad political terms:
"It has been frequently remarked, that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not, of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend, for their political constitutions, on accident and force."
Federalist No. 10" is generally regarded as the most important of the 85 articles from a philosophical perspective. In it, Madison discusses the means of preventing rule by majority faction and advocates a large, commercial republic. This is complemented by "Federalist No. 14", in which Madison takes the measure of the United States, declares it appropriate for an extended republic, and concludes with a memorable defense of the constitutional and political creativity of the Federal Convention.[5]
In "Federalist No. 84", Hamilton makes the case that there is no need to amend the Constitution by adding a Bill of Rights, insisting that the various provisions in the proposed Constitution protecting liberty amount to a "bill of rights".
"Federalist No. 78", also written by Hamilton, lays the groundwork for the doctrine of judicial review by federal courts of federal legislation or executive acts.
"Federalist No. 70" presents Hamilton's case for a one-man chief executive.
In "Federalist No. 39", Madison presents the clearest exposition of what has come to be called "Federalism".
In "Federalist No. 51", Madison distills arguments for checks and balances in an essay often quoted for its justification of government as "the greatest of all reflections on human nature."
According to historian Richard B. Morris, the essays that make up The Federalist Papers are an "incomparable exposition of the Constitution, a classic in political science unsurpassed in both breadth and depth by the product of any later American writer."[6] from wiki Now those may sound easy to understand but if it takes an adult (my daughter) who already has a degree from the The University of Chicago to feel that she take further classes in order to fully understand The Federalist Papers, -then it sounds as if neither you nor I would not be able to understand them as well as we might like to believe we can.
They seem to be exceptionally needful for us to understand at this critical period in time.
i don't know about you but when i get a book i read the whole thing not just part of it. in the case of the federalist papers i read every one in an effort to find more than just the 3 i listed to back up(correctly) the right to keep and bear and the definition of a militia...it was a LONG read...since it was written at a time when your average bear didn't have a college education i doubt seriously that one needs a college degree to understand most of it...true when i first got it(99) and read it the first time i didn't get what they were getting at for some of the papers but having read it a second time(04) you begin to see what they were getting at in more of the papers. do i remember all of the papers now? not likely and i would challenge anyone who has read it only once or twice to remember everything. and as with any document or book the more you read it the more you discover things you didn't remember the first time around....
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Nov 27, 2018 4:06:04 GMT -5
Post by dmmichgood on Nov 27, 2018 4:06:04 GMT -5
Ok.
You may have The Federalist Papers in your house " -but I would bet any amount of money that you have only read the ones that pertain to gun ownership and you have those only because of the NRA (National Rifle Association) gave them to you as what they perceive, (wrongly) as the right for any individual's right to own a gun.
The Federalist Papers
The Federalist (later known as The Federalist Papers) is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the United States Constitution.
The first 77 of these essays were published serially in the Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between October 1787 and April 1788.[1]
A two-volume compilation of these 77 essays and eight others was published as The Federalist: A Collection of Essays, Written in Favour of the New Constitution, as Agreed upon by the Federal Convention, September 17, 1787 by publishing firm J. & A. McLean in March and May 1788 The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century.
The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify the Constitution.
In "Federalist No. 1", they explicitly set that debate in broad political terms:
"It has been frequently remarked, that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not, of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend, for their political constitutions, on accident and force."
Federalist No. 10" is generally regarded as the most important of the 85 articles from a philosophical perspective. In it, Madison discusses the means of preventing rule by majority faction and advocates a large, commercial republic. This is complemented by "Federalist No. 14", in which Madison takes the measure of the United States, declares it appropriate for an extended republic, and concludes with a memorable defense of the constitutional and political creativity of the Federal Convention.[5]
In "Federalist No. 84", Hamilton makes the case that there is no need to amend the Constitution by adding a Bill of Rights, insisting that the various provisions in the proposed Constitution protecting liberty amount to a "bill of rights".
"Federalist No. 78", also written by Hamilton, lays the groundwork for the doctrine of judicial review by federal courts of federal legislation or executive acts.
"Federalist No. 70" presents Hamilton's case for a one-man chief executive.
In "Federalist No. 39", Madison presents the clearest exposition of what has come to be called "Federalism".
In "Federalist No. 51", Madison distills arguments for checks and balances in an essay often quoted for its justification of government as "the greatest of all reflections on human nature."
According to historian Richard B. Morris, the essays that make up The Federalist Papers are an "incomparable exposition of the Constitution, a classic in political science unsurpassed in both breadth and depth by the product of any later American writer."[6] from wiki Now those may sound easy to understand but if it takes an adult (my daughter) who already has a degree from the The University of Chicago to feel that she take further classes in order to fully understand The Federalist Papers, -then it sounds as if neither you nor I would not be able to understand them as well as we might like to believe we can.
They seem to be exceptionally needful for us to understand at this critical period in time.
i don't know about you but when i get a book i read the whole thing not just part of it. in the case of the federalist papers i read every one in an effort to find more than just the 3 i listed to back up(correctly) the right to keep and bear and the definition of a militia...it was a LONG read...since it was written at a time when your average bear didn't have a college education i doubt seriously that one needs a college degree to understand most of it...true when i first got it(99) and read it the first time i didn't get what they were getting at for some of the papers but having read it a second time(04) you begin to see what they were getting at in more of the papers. do i remember all of the papers now? not likely and i would challenge anyone who has read it only once or twice to remember everything. and as with any document or book the more you read it the more you discover things you didn't remember the first time around.... Good for You , wally!
But if you read all of it, I still wonder at so many of your basic attitudes about our government & human rights in general.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 11:48:19 GMT -5
i don't know about you but when i get a book i read the whole thing not just part of it. in the case of the federalist papers i read every one in an effort to find more than just the 3 i listed to back up(correctly) the right to keep and bear and the definition of a militia...it was a LONG read...since it was written at a time when your average bear didn't have a college education i doubt seriously that one needs a college degree to understand most of it...true when i first got it(99) and read it the first time i didn't get what they were getting at for some of the papers but having read it a second time(04) you begin to see what they were getting at in more of the papers. do i remember all of the papers now? not likely and i would challenge anyone who has read it only once or twice to remember everything. and as with any document or book the more you read it the more you discover things you didn't remember the first time around.... Good for You , wally!
But if you read all of it, I still wonder at so many of your basic attitudes about our government & human rights in general.our gov't now is light years different than the one our forefathers setup they wouldn't recognize some of the demo and repub crap thats creeped in...
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Feb 26, 2019 10:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by Lee on Feb 26, 2019 10:58:06 GMT -5
Ben is a rock star.
I've nearly finished his book.
I hope he runs for president 2020 and 2024.
Even if his idealism is fustrated or defeated by Gods design of Future Glory, (Romans 8:18-23), I'll still love the man.
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