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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 0:38:38 GMT -5
"President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he could withdraw his support for Brett Kavanaugh depending on the testimony in a high-profile Thursday hearing into multiple accusations of sexual misconduct against the Supreme Court nominee." The Trump backscratchers and cheerleaders are really quite confused. They don't know if they are supposed to give a 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down' to this new development! That's probably his move. He gets to claim "witch hunt", and appoint someone else (who you know they've probably been vetting/scrubbing for a while now). He'll score political points ("Dems are obstructing, look at what I have to deal with, do you want to give them more power!?") before midterms. Ultimately, he'd get a judge rushed through, and political ammo. I wouldn't be surprised if that was his backup plan within 5 minutes of hearing about the allegations. When will people learn to stop underestimating him?
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Post by Lee on Sept 27, 2018 1:11:08 GMT -5
If the only accomplishment of his presidency is to humuliate worship of elected and unelected government, he's done more than any presidents done since I was born.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 1:17:31 GMT -5
And ISIS is gone, economy booming, Keystone passed, Korean War ended... little things like those.
I don't like him as a person, but if Clinton was president and the above things I listed were accomplished, her approval rating would be 60%.
He doesn't want people to see what's going on. I believe much of his behavior is an act. He's big picture, not details. He hires people for details.
I wouldn't let my daughter around him, but then again, our other option was Clinton...
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Post by Lee on Sept 27, 2018 1:28:46 GMT -5
You think theyre worshiping him because he's being presidential? The opposite is true. They like it when he's being a jerk.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 27, 2018 2:17:26 GMT -5
You think theyre worshiping him because he's being presidential? The opposite is true. They like it when he's being a jerk. Could that be because they see a fellow "Jerk?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 27, 2018 2:19:11 GMT -5
If the only accomplishment of his presidency is to humuliate worship of elected and unelected government, he's done more than any presidents done since I was born. Do you consider that an accomplishment for the better?
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Post by Lee on Sept 27, 2018 2:36:58 GMT -5
When is the worship of government a good thing?
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 27, 2018 3:09:24 GMT -5
When is the worship of government a good thing? What is there about government that makes you think that we are "worshiping" government?
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Post by rational on Sept 27, 2018 9:13:06 GMT -5
You believe that if a person goes to a party they are consenting to sexual assault? Well, it's clearly wrong all ten times. It does however seem peculiar that nothing clicked after about the 2nd or 6th or so. Or 1st. If we (rightly) blame the man for drunken evil, we must also question the judgement of the women. Would that not be equality? One could guess that she enjoyed the parties and avoided the problem by avoiding the spiked punch that was used to incapacitate women. In any case, being drunk does not excuse sexual assault. Using bad judgement and attending a party does not give consent for sexual assault.
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Post by rational on Sept 27, 2018 9:16:01 GMT -5
Always have an out don't you, wally?
But you really don't need to depend on Politifact or any one other source alone.
You can research a lot of different places to find the truth for yourself.
That is one of the most important factors of having freedom of speech.
The Poynter Institute for Media Studies is a non-profit school.
So by not making any money out of the institute it allows them the freedom to publish facts.
You might consider that a factor in your decision making.
. right i do a little research into whos doing what and its an out...you do the same and its the gospel...i get it...right A better response would to have presented some data that backs up your implication of bias.
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Post by rational on Sept 27, 2018 9:17:33 GMT -5
You think theyre worshiping him because he's being presidential? The opposite is true. They like it when he's being a jerk. BOAF Birds of A Feather
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 10:15:19 GMT -5
Well, it's clearly wrong all ten times. It does however seem peculiar that nothing clicked after about the 2nd or 6th or so. Or 1st. If we (rightly) blame the man for drunken evil, we must also question the judgement of the women. Would that not be equality? One could guess that she enjoyed the parties and avoided the problem by avoiding the spiked punch that was used to incapacitate women. In any case, being drunk does not excuse sexual assault. Using bad judgement and attending a party does not give consent for sexual assault. agreed
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Post by snow on Sept 27, 2018 18:33:58 GMT -5
Ten times suggests consenuasuality. 2x2s we're right. Don't let your children go to worldly parties. Don't even let them go to 2x2 parties unless they're in a park. You believe that if a person goes to a party they are consenting to sexual assault? Well there are still men out there that think that is a woman dresses provocatively that is also a sign of consensual sex being offered. It's a very strange world.
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Post by snow on Sept 27, 2018 18:37:32 GMT -5
You believe that if a person goes to a party they are consenting to sexual assault? Well, it's clearly wrong all ten times. It does however seem peculiar that nothing clicked after about the 2nd or 6th or so. Or 1st. If we (rightly) blame the man for drunken evil, we must also question the judgement of the women. Would that not be equality? Women show bad judgement all the time, just like men. But is there ever a time that non consensual sex is okay? Also, not all really drunk guys try to gang rape at parties. We all make mistakes, but rape should not be the punishment for bad judgment, should it? I made a bad judgment call when I accepted a ride home from someone I misjudged. It was a very cold winter night and when I was offered a ride from someone I didn't know well, I paid. But I never dreamed that was what would happen. Naive and stupid, yes. Bad judgment, yes. Did I deserve what happened? I don't think so. I was young and trusting, naive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 18:42:12 GMT -5
Well, it's clearly wrong all ten times. It does however seem peculiar that nothing clicked after about the 2nd or 6th or so. Or 1st. If we (rightly) blame the man for drunken evil, we must also question the judgement of the women. Would that not be equality? Women show bad judgement all the time, just like men. But is there ever a time that non consensual sex is okay? Also, not all really drunk guys try to gang rape at parties. We all make mistakes, but rape should not be the punishment for bad judgment, should it? well my only thought on that is if you were to walk out into the jungle naked do you really expect not to get eatin' or to survive?
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Post by snow on Sept 27, 2018 18:50:52 GMT -5
Women show bad judgement all the time, just like men. But is there ever a time that non consensual sex is okay? Also, not all really drunk guys try to gang rape at parties. We all make mistakes, but rape should not be the punishment for bad judgment, should it? well my only thought on that is if you were to walk out into the jungle naked do you really expect not to get eatin' or to survive? Yes, why wouldn't I survive walking naked in a jungle? What would clothes have to do with my ability to survive if I had training in survival? They should be able to walk into a party naked and still have the right to say no. That's the point Wally. Is it smart or good judgment? Of course not. I don't understand why any man would want to force a woman anyway? What's the point?
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Post by matisse on Sept 27, 2018 20:16:38 GMT -5
You believe that if a person goes to a party they are consenting to sexual assault? Well, it's clearly wrong all ten times. It does however seem peculiar that nothing clicked after about the 2nd or 6th or so. Or 1st. If we (rightly) blame the man for drunken evil, we must also question the judgement of the women. Would that not be equality? Equality would be if men were at as much risk of being raped as women.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 27, 2018 20:22:50 GMT -5
Women show bad judgement all the time, just like men. But is there ever a time that non consensual sex is okay? Also, not all really drunk guys try to gang rape at parties. We all make mistakes, but rape should not be the punishment for bad judgment, should it? well my only thought on that is if you were to walk out into the jungle naked do you really expect not to get eatin' or to survive? They all survive on TV. But then, someone else is providing wolf relief.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 21:20:19 GMT -5
well my only thought on that is if you were to walk out into the jungle naked do you really expect not to get eatin' or to survive? Yes, why wouldn't I survive walking naked in a jungle? What would clothes have to do with my ability to survive if I had training in survival? They should be able to walk into a party naked and still have the right to say no. That's the point Wally. Is it smart or good judgment? Of course not. I don't understand why any man would want to force a woman anyway? What's the point? well if exposure didn't get ya the animals or bugs or plants might...why would they do it? only God knows really...but a few say sex some say power some say just because....
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Post by rational on Sept 27, 2018 21:23:50 GMT -5
Women show bad judgement all the time, just like men. But is there ever a time that non consensual sex is okay? Also, not all really drunk guys try to gang rape at parties. We all make mistakes, but rape should not be the punishment for bad judgment, should it? well my only thought on that is if you were to walk out into the jungle naked do you really expect not to get eatin' or to survive? I smell a false equivalence in the air...
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Post by openingact34 on Sept 27, 2018 21:33:31 GMT -5
"President Donald Trump on Wednesday said he could withdraw his support for Brett Kavanaugh depending on the testimony in a high-profile Thursday hearing into multiple accusations of sexual misconduct against the Supreme Court nominee." The Trump backscratchers and cheerleaders are really quite confused. They don't know if they are supposed to give a 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down' to this new development! The polling data just shows a split in opinion. Approx 50% of Evangelical Christians believe that Kavanaugh should still be appointed to the Supreme Court even if Prof. Ford's accusations of sexual assault are true www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2018/09/48-of-white-evangelicals-would-support-kavanaugh-even-if-he-sexually-assaulted-ford/For the rest, the truth of the allegations might possibly matter.
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Post by snow on Sept 28, 2018 12:40:08 GMT -5
I can't help but thing about seminars that teach people how to stay safe. One I know of the guy first draws a line down the middle of a chalk board and puts a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other. Then he asks the men what they did today to make sure they would be safe from sexual assault. The room remains silent. One man says 'stay out of prison'. But another is more honest and says, "I don't really think about it'. Then he asks the women's side and they tell all the things they do. Have a dog, carry mace, don't jog at night, carry their keys defensively etc. It's so natural for a woman and a man doesn't have a clue that they do this all the time. It's something women are aware of all the time. So until there is the same level of problem in both genders, the one gender that doesn't have to worry about these things, really can't know. Women should not have to do all these things just to be save from men, but we do and it's pretty much business as usual. Would things change if men were in this position every day?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 14:20:16 GMT -5
well the ahole flake did a turn around today and screwed the pooch after confirming kavanaugh to be confirmed he did a 180 and stopped the confirmation for a week...which will set the precedent to delay and delay until the supposidly blue wave in NOV. i say its over and the demo's won...hope it costs them in NOV though...b'tard
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 14:22:43 GMT -5
I can't help but thing about seminars that teach people how to stay safe. One I know of the guy first draws a line down the middle of a chalk board and puts a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other. Then he asks the men what they did today to make sure they would be safe from sexual assault. The room remains silent. One man says 'stay out of prison'. But another is more honest and says, "I don't really think about it'. Then he asks the women's side and they tell all the things they do. Have a dog, carry mace, don't jog at night, carry their keys defensively etc. It's so natural for a woman and a man doesn't have a clue that they do this all the time. It's something women are aware of all the time. So until there is the same level of problem in both genders, the one gender that doesn't have to worry about these things, really can't know. Women should not have to do all these things just to be save from men, but we do and it's pretty much business as usual. Would things change if men were in this position every day? well as time progresses quality men are going to become afraid to deal with women on the chance they are going to be accused of rape which will screw relations for decades or longer...good luck finding a quality man ladies...
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Post by rational on Sept 28, 2018 14:32:01 GMT -5
well the ahole flake did a turn around today and screwed the pooch after confirming kavanaugh to be confirmed he did a 180 and stopped the confirmation for a week...which will set the precedent to delay and delay until the supposidly blue wave in NOV. i say its over and the demo's won...hope it costs them in NOV though...b'tard Did you look at the polls from anyone but Fox? Why would it cost them in Nov? Do you think an investigation will show anything new? Why do you think Kavanaugh would not answer in the affirmative when asked whether he would ask for a investigation?
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Post by snow on Sept 28, 2018 14:38:09 GMT -5
I can't help but thing about seminars that teach people how to stay safe. One I know of the guy first draws a line down the middle of a chalk board and puts a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other. Then he asks the men what they did today to make sure they would be safe from sexual assault. The room remains silent. One man says 'stay out of prison'. But another is more honest and says, "I don't really think about it'. Then he asks the women's side and they tell all the things they do. Have a dog, carry mace, don't jog at night, carry their keys defensively etc. It's so natural for a woman and a man doesn't have a clue that they do this all the time. It's something women are aware of all the time. So until there is the same level of problem in both genders, the one gender that doesn't have to worry about these things, really can't know. Women should not have to do all these things just to be save from men, but we do and it's pretty much business as usual. Would things change if men were in this position every day? well as time progresses quality men are going to become afraid to deal with women on the chance they are going to be accused of rape which will screw relations for decades or longer...good luck finding a quality man ladies... I doubt that. Men who do nothing wrong still don't have much to worry about. Quality men don't prejudge a woman that comes forward with this kind of accusation. They take it seriously and try to find out the truth. So far I haven't seen a whole lot of quality men out there among the Republicans. I don't think there is a woman out there that thinks it's not disgusting if she is lying and she is doing us far more harm that any man if she is lying. But, the attitude here by some, and the republicans has been to say she's lying and it's a con job. Before they know anything about it she is already condemned. No quality men in that crowd and women would be well advised to steer clear of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 14:38:12 GMT -5
well the ahole flake did a turn around today and screwed the pooch after confirming kavanaugh to be confirmed he did a 180 and stopped the confirmation for a week...which will set the precedent to delay and delay until the supposidly blue wave in NOV. i say its over and the demo's won...hope it costs them in NOV though...b'tard Did you look at the polls from anyone but Fox? Why would it cost them in Nov? Do you think an investigation will show anything new? Why do you think Kavanaugh would not answer in the affirmative when asked whether he would ask for a investigation? i don't do polls...for destroying the confirmation process... i doubt we will find out anything new... he wouldn't answer because that would just set a precedent for delay after delay besides he doesn't really have the authority to do that...
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Post by rational on Sept 28, 2018 14:54:19 GMT -5
Did you look at the polls from anyone but Fox? Why would it cost them in Nov? Do you think an investigation will show anything new? Why do you think Kavanaugh would not answer in the affirmative when asked whether he would ask for a investigation? i don't do polls...for destroying the confirmation process... i doubt we will find out anything new... he wouldn't answer because that would just set a precedent for delay after delay besides he doesn't really have the authority to do that... Oh, he does have the right to ask the WH for an investigation. And they will ask the FBI (if they dare).
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