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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 21:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 11:27:02 GMT -5
well the accuser of kavanaugh has a shady story to say the least...
"cant remember the details of the attack"
such as if there were 4 or 2 guys, where it took place, what year it was..
and has admitted in same letter it "may be mistaken identity"
the one person identified as a witness/participant has said it never took place...
feinstien withheld the alleged info since july and when they couldn't stop the confirmation threw it out at the 11th hour...
has ties to the democratic party, dnc and an anti-trump march....
has said she would testify but when invited too has not responded for a few days now...
smells like a typical liberal tactic of when losing accuse your opponent of something heinous (in this case rape) then sit back and watch the circus....
this will only damage women in the future of reporting actual rapes as it will push others to less likely believe he/she said encounters/crimes...
and this isn't to say she wasn't attacked by someone else....
EDIT: should have said therapist notes not letter.....
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Post by Gene on Sept 18, 2018 18:06:37 GMT -5
Are you certain she accused him of rape?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 20:24:12 GMT -5
Are you certain she accused him of rape? well attempted rape....he's still gonna be looked at like a rapist...
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Post by Dennis J on Sept 18, 2018 21:40:36 GMT -5
Are you certain she accused him of rape? well attempted rape....he's still gonna be looked at like a rapist... Perhaps only by people who want to view him as such.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 18, 2018 22:56:23 GMT -5
This is what Ford stated "In her description of the incident, Ford says that she attended a party in the 1980s that took place in a house in Montgomery County, Maryland.
At the party, she says she went to use the bathroom and was pushed into a bedroom by Kavanaugh and his classmate Mark Judge — both of whom she describes as “stumbling drunk.”
Ford says she had also had a beer that evening, but notes that both Kavanaugh and Judge were heavily intoxicated.
Ford says Kavanaugh then pushed her onto a bed and tried to force himself on her while attempting to remove her clothes. She adds that Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she tried to scream and that she was only able to free herself after Judge jumped on the bed and toppled the group.
'I thought he might inadvertently kill me,' she said."
www.vox.com/2018/9/17/17869672/supreme-court-brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegations
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 18, 2018 23:35:05 GMT -5
There are enough records of both Kavanaugh and Judge having bragged about their wild drinking and passing out binges while at that school for me to give the lady more credibility than Kavanagh.
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Post by snow on Sept 19, 2018 16:00:26 GMT -5
The above exchange is exactly why many women don't report rape or attempted rape. Somehow there are always going to be those who make it her fault. It's already a pretty traumatic thing to survive so not having people believe you on top of it all is too much for many to have to deal with.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 19, 2018 18:02:52 GMT -5
The above exchange is exactly why many women don't report rape or attempted rape. Somehow there are always going to be those who make it her fault. It's already a pretty traumatic thing to survive so not having people believe you on top of it all is too much for many to have to deal with. Here we have a man applying for a 30-year job as the nation's moral/constitutional conscience, and his appointee isn't interested in an independent investigation into his own character. Of course, if this accusation against the appointee is decided to be a disqualifying factor, then the one who appointed him is many times more disqualified for exactly the same reason. Interestingly, the problem appears to have arisen in a Catholic High School where the motto is that "What happens here stays here."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 0:21:25 GMT -5
There are enough records of both Kavanaugh and Judge having bragged about their wild drinking and passing out binges while at that school for me to give the lady more credibility than Kavanagh. another man has come forward/been found named patrick j. smyth and also denies that anything happened....
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 20, 2018 0:46:52 GMT -5
There are enough records of both Kavanaugh and Judge having bragged about their wild drinking and passing out binges while at that school for me to give the lady more credibility than Kavanagh. another man has come forward/been found named patrick j. smyth and also denies that anything happened.... Read it again more carefully, -wally.
That is not exactly what Smyth said.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 0:56:52 GMT -5
another man has come forward/been found named patrick j. smyth and also denies that anything happened.... Read it again more carefully, -wally.
That is not exactly what Smyth said.he said he doesn't remember any party and denies the allegation against kavanaugh....
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2018 1:00:21 GMT -5
another man has come forward/been found named patrick j. smyth and also denies that anything happened.... Read it again more carefully, -wally.
That is not exactly what Smyth said.And the third person in the room at the time who said nothing happened, now refuses to repeat that under oath. But he has written a book about life at the school and presents no savory picture of Kavanaugh.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 20, 2018 2:32:48 GMT -5
Read it again more carefully, -wally.
That is not exactly what Smyth said.he said he doesn't remember any party and denies the allegation against kavanaugh.... If Smyth doesn't "remember any party," how can he deny anything?
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Post by Gene on Sept 20, 2018 4:27:33 GMT -5
he said he doesn't remember any party and denies the allegation against kavanaugh.... If Smyth doesn't "remember any party," how can he deny anything?Exactly. If he doesn't remember the party, how can he say nothing happened at it? Bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 5:33:27 GMT -5
he said he doesn't remember any party and denies the allegation against kavanaugh.... If Smyth doesn't "remember any party," how can he deny anything?its to my understanding hes named as one of the poeple that were there by ford...
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Post by matisse on Sept 20, 2018 5:46:56 GMT -5
If Smyth doesn't "remember any party," how can he deny anything?its to my understanding hes named as one of the poeple that were there by ford... If he was a blackout drinker like Kavanaugh, he could have been at the party and have no memory of it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 5:55:31 GMT -5
its to my understanding hes named as one of the poeple that were there by ford... If he was a blackout drinker like Kavanaugh, he could have been at the party and have no memory of it. likewise a 15 year old girl(ford) drinking at a party can have problems with memory and recollection of events....
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Post by matisse on Sept 20, 2018 6:00:56 GMT -5
If he was a blackout drinker like Kavanaugh, he could have been at the party and have no memory of it. likewise a 15 year old girl(ford) drinking at a party can have problems with memory and recollection of events.... She has vivid memories of particular moments of that evening that are typical of someone who has been assaulted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 6:07:42 GMT -5
likewise a 15 year old girl(ford) drinking at a party can have problems with memory and recollection of events.... She has vivid memories of particular moments of that evening that are typical of someone who has been assaulted. but according to her own therapists notes she doesn't remember all the details of the event, doesn't sound too vivid to me....
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Post by matisse on Sept 20, 2018 7:18:41 GMT -5
She has vivid memories of particular moments of that evening that are typical of someone who has been assaulted. but according to her own therapists notes she doesn't remember all the details of the event, doesn't sound too vivid to me.... Did you read what I wrote? She has a vivid memory of parts of the evening, like climbing the narrow stairs leading to the second floor bathroom just before she was attacked.
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Post by matisse on Sept 20, 2018 7:54:59 GMT -5
Enough people have murmered about remembering the party, or hearing about the assault later (hint: not from the assault victim), that I would think the FBI would be able to make quick progress in an investigation. So why not give the FBI the go-ahead?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 8:36:42 GMT -5
Enough people have murmered about remembering the party, or hearing about the assault later (hint: not from the assault victim), that I would think the FBI would be able to make quick progress in an investigation. So why not give the FBI the go-ahead? haven't heard any of that even from the lamestream media...where are you getting your heresay info from?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 8:39:36 GMT -5
but according to her own therapists notes she doesn't remember all the details of the event, doesn't sound too vivid to me.... Did you read what I wrote? She has a vivid memory of parts of the evening, like climbing the narrow stairs leading to the second floor bathroom just before she was attacked. yet can't remember if it was 4 or 2 boys, where it was at or even what year it happened in? we may be dealing with a delusional fantasy or an outright lie....
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2018 14:56:12 GMT -5
There are enough records of both Kavanaugh and Judge having bragged about their wild drinking and passing out binges while at that school for me to give the lady more credibility than Kavanagh. another man has come forward/been found named patrick j. smyth and also denies that anything happened.... And I suppose you think he denied it "under oath".
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2018 14:57:56 GMT -5
Did you read what I wrote? She has a vivid memory of parts of the evening, like climbing the narrow stairs leading to the second floor bathroom just before she was attacked. yet can't remember if it was 4 or 2 boys, where it was at or even what year it happened in? we may be dealing with a delusional fantasy or an outright lie.... So we don't investigate because there is a possibility that the "victim" is a loonie. Yes, you are a fascist just to suggest it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2018 15:03:32 GMT -5
Enough people have murmered about remembering the party, or hearing about the assault later (hint: not from the assault victim), that I would think the FBI would be able to make quick progress in an investigation. So why not give the FBI the go-ahead? haven't heard any of that even from the lamestream media... The main stream media has indeed been reporting this, numerous times. Why would anyone not want a proper investigation. Just so they can continue with their own self serving prejudice.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 20, 2018 15:13:18 GMT -5
She has vivid memories of particular moments of that evening that are typical of someone who has been assaulted. but according to her own therapists notes she doesn't remember all the details of the event, doesn't sound too vivid to me.... They don't put the x-rated parts in the public media. You'll NEVER get that unless you tag along with some kind of legitimate investigator. Who do you think would forget more -- the woman or the bleary eyed drunk? Let me tell you, a person who is sexually abused is focused only on the X-rated details and believe me, they don't forget any of it -- not even if they bury it in their psyche in order to appear undamaged.
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