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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2007 16:17:43 GMT -5
Las, you're out to lunch, bologna lunch that is. First of all, do you know how many meetings there are in Alberta? Hundreds. Know how many were "shut down"? You have less fingers. That's not exactly half. Oil deals? Yeah, you are right there, there was one known oil deal but if you had the money, it would only buy you a few more coffees with your former elder and you would be broke again back to eating your bologna. Hundreds of 2x2 meetings in Alberta were there? I understand that 20 or more were shut down and only a few remain left. Anyone go a more accurate description. Las, I believe you are right on the ball, seems like your elder feels Edgar is a threat, and have researched him. Too bad when a worker leaves and has all the inside information they do. The origins Bert are the early days of the starting up of your group by William Irvine just over 100 years ago. That's right, your group was started by Jesus but every other group was started by a man. NO!! your group is no different to any other group. Christianity can be traced back to Jesus and your group is not different to any other group in this respect. Las, you have helped so many on here to see the truth, I was beginning to think that Clear day was honest reading the other thread, but now I am doubting that having read what he wrote n his one. Ahh doubt my numbers? Calgary alone has around 40 Sunday meetings give or take a few, there are four pairs of workers there. Add to that 40 Wed mtgs and there's 80 meetings in one city alone. Edmonton is almost as big, and the rural areas in total have even more. Hundreds of meetings in hundreds of homes in Alberta is correct and there are still hundreds today as we speak. As far as meetings shut down by the workers as a direct result of the excommunication fiasco? 3 Sundays that I know of, the first one east of Edmonton, the second in Sherwood Park, and the third in Calgary. I won't name the names but I know them all. A fair number of meetings were moved when elders chose to step out of meeting hosting not wanting to lock their doors to anyone involved in this. That may make up the 20 you mention. Believe what suits your fancy, or do your own research for the truth of the matter.
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Post by For Las on Jun 13, 2007 17:05:02 GMT -5
I also told me elder I says..Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the two by two group? Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the Christian group?
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Post by and thus on Jun 13, 2007 17:14:17 GMT -5
I also told me elder I says..Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the two by two group? Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the Christian group? ...and thus, the 2x2 justifies to himself limiting God to the two-by-two group. gag
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Post by las logged out on Jun 13, 2007 17:46:20 GMT -5
Las, you're out to lunch, bologna lunch that is. First of all, do you know how many meetings there are in Alberta? Hundreds. Know how many were "shut down"? You have less fingers. That's not exactly half. Oil deals? Yeah, you are right there, there was one known oil deal but if you had the money, it would only buy you a few more coffees with your former elder and you would be broke again back to eating your bologna. Hundreds of 2x2 meetings in Alberta were there? I understand that 20 or more were shut down and only a few remain left. Anyone go a more accurate description. Las, I believe you are right on the ball, seems like your elder feels Edgar is a threat, and have researched him. Too bad when a worker leaves and has all the inside information they do. The origins Bert are the early days of the starting up of your group by William Irvine just over 100 years ago. That's right, your group was started by Jesus but every other group was started by a man. NO!! your group is no different to any other group. Christianity can be traced back to Jesus and your group is not different to any other group in this respect. Las, you have helped so many on here to see the truth, I was beginning to think that Clear day was honest reading the other thread, but now I am doubting that having read what he wrote n his one. Thanks
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Post by our own worlds on Jun 13, 2007 18:14:37 GMT -5
I was beginning to think that Clear day was honest reading the other thread, but now I am doubting that having read what he wrote n his one. If someone posts something that we don't like, it must be dishonest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2007 21:10:41 GMT -5
quote - "The origins Bert are the early days of the starting up of your group by William Irvine just over 100 years ago." The so-called "origins" of our current church, according to dissidents, was "started by Irvine." (No other names?) If I went to a church where they talked about their own preachers from the pulpit, and their own church history, I wouldn't go back. I go to a church to hear the message about Christ, to myself.
quote -That's right, your group was started by Jesus but every other group was started by a man. NO!! your group is no different to any other group. Christianity can be traced back to Jesus and your group is not different to any other group in this respect.
Two questions:
1) If you read a bible; apply the scripture to yourself; accept its literal instruction and change nothing - are you starting a church, or following one?
2) If you take your new church, and add new things to it, and remove "old" things, are you still in that church, or have you just created a man-made church?
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Post by to the 2x2 extremist on Jun 13, 2007 21:16:20 GMT -5
bert,
The origin of your church didn't change just because "dissidents" told the story. The church you attend was started by William Irvine. Perhaps you'll learn that someday.
I would ask why you are so hateful towards former 2x2s, but knowing that you are a 2x2 extremist makes the question pointless.
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Post by ann on Jun 13, 2007 22:43:05 GMT -5
Bert represents the hateful, nasty side of the 2x2s very well. Thank you, Bert, for showing us how it really is with the workers way.
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Post by as I c it on Jun 13, 2007 22:54:14 GMT -5
Bert is not a nasty, hateful 2x2. Bert may, sometimes, sling a bit of mud, but that's "normal" on this board. MOST of the time, however, he simply answers the questions: and states his position.
And he's answered a lot of them--very decently!!
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Post by imnx2 on Jun 13, 2007 23:49:57 GMT -5
Las, you want the workers to talk about the workers. But others here say the workers talk about themselves and not Jesus. What gives? Lloyd and some others would like the workers to tell about and explain their beginnings with Irvine and others in Ireland. Those that want the workers to stop "talking" about themselves really want them to stop preaching themselves. There is a difference. You know that, of course.
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Post by Brad Lewis on Jun 14, 2007 2:18:37 GMT -5
They can't do it. People would start thinking. I asked Craig Jacobsen to tell my mom about William Irvine and he won't do it. They're cowards. They cannot tell the truth. Brad
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Post by las logged out on Jun 14, 2007 9:20:27 GMT -5
How many 2x2s are still unaware that William Irvine is the 2x2 founder?
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Post by las logged out on Jun 14, 2007 9:22:36 GMT -5
I also told me elder I says..Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the two by two group? Do you think you can limit the God of the universe just to the Christian group? NO
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