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Post by Admin on Jun 8, 2018 21:43:15 GMT -5
We have banned the new member 'zenny' and also 'truecompanion' who have been outed as JW infiltrators. User zenny has been sending PMs to TMB members asking if he could "teach you the word of God correctly." Turns out he is a follower of the Jehovah's Witness cult. zenny is Glen Labella. You can read about him here: familyofgodchrist.blogspot.com/2009/09/familyofgod-re-glen-labella.htmlThis man is a Jehovah's witness, and it is true, that when one communicates with him, there is computer trouble. Perhaps he is in their headquarters, for I have heard that they have computer experts there, and I do know that on the xjw chat-rooms, one gets all kinds of computer problems.
I warn all and sundry about this man. He uses the Bible but can destroy you. People who have been indoctrinated in the Jehovah's Witness teachings are destroyed and only the power of God can help them to come to true faith in Christ, I know this, I have been in the hands of the Wonderful Counsellor to free me from the 48 terrified years I was in that organization. My husband was in it for 56 years, a leader, and is still not any where near free, and our children are in confusion. Beware of this man, while praying for him, that God open his eyes for he is no doubt very sincere as most of them are, and believes himself to be doing God's will.
Written in love, LouiseWhen pressed, here is an outline of the points he intended to cover in "teaching the word of God correctly": Who Is God? The Bible—A Book From God What Is God’s Purpose for the Humans? Who Is Jesus Christ? The Ransom—God’s Greatest Gift Where Do We Go When We Die? There Will Be A Resurrection! What Is God’s Kingdom? Is the End of the World Near? The Truth About the Angels Why So Much Suffering? How Can You Become God's Friend? Respect the Gift of Life Your Family Can Be Happy The Right Way To Worship God Choose To Worship God. The Privilege of Prayer. Should I Dedicate my Life to God and Get Baptized? Stay Close to Jehovah "Overflowing with thanksgiving," -Colossians 2:7. Glen For the record, we have banned zenny (joined May 25, 2018), truecompanion (joined Feb 22, 2018), IP 98.164.112.55, glenlabella@yahoo.com and glenjoseph3@aol.com Thanks CherieKropp for detective work. admin
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 8, 2018 21:54:24 GMT -5
Seems hilarious that one cult infiltrates another cult.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 8, 2018 22:40:43 GMT -5
Seems hilarious that one cult infiltrates another cult. Tribalism.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 8, 2018 22:42:06 GMT -5
Seems hilarious that one cult infiltrates another cult. Tribalism. Turf warfare.
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Post by Lee on Jun 8, 2018 22:46:11 GMT -5
It isn't funny. Christianity is an ideologically rich religion. Cults impose a vacuum of stupidity. Bad things always occur around vacuums.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 8, 2018 23:29:36 GMT -5
It isn't funny. Christianity is an ideologically rich religion. Cults impose a vacuum of stupidity. Bad things always occur around vacuums. As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar.
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Post by emy on Jun 8, 2018 23:41:53 GMT -5
Interesting! A couple days ago I got a "flyer" from Guideposts and wondered where it came from since it has been years since I've had contact at all with the JW. If they followed trail from here, there must have been some hacking involved because my address is not posted anywhere public AFAIK.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jun 8, 2018 23:46:02 GMT -5
He's PMd me twice. Nothing bad yet. So thank you for the heads up. I thought his expressions were a might strange.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 23:46:55 GMT -5
Interesting! A couple days ago I got a "flyer" from Guideposts and wondered where it came from since it has been years since I've had contact at all with the JW. If they followed trail from here, there must have been some hacking involved because my address is not posted anywhere public AFAIK. interesting....but really the best they could do is get your IP address here at TMB which would only lead them to the city your in, unless of course they have someone who works for your IP provider then they could pin it to a physical address....
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Post by Lee on Jun 9, 2018 8:52:33 GMT -5
It isn't funny. Christianity is an ideologically rich religion. Cults impose a vacuum of stupidity. Bad things always occur around vacuums. As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar. I thought it depended on whether your community thought it was separating the sheep from the goats or if they were just celebrating salvation.
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Post by DrPetros on Jun 9, 2018 11:46:54 GMT -5
It isn't funny. Christianity is an ideologically rich religion. Cults impose a vacuum of stupidity. Bad things always occur around vacuums. As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar. Completely ridiculous, especially considering the size of some churches and some cults.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 9, 2018 16:55:01 GMT -5
It isn't funny. Christianity is an ideologically rich religion. Cults impose a vacuum of stupidity. Bad things always occur around vacuums. As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar. The usage of the cult label in this thread is most likely because JWs are clearly not Trinitarian. You won't hear complaints about, say, Catholic infiltration.
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Post by Grant on Jun 9, 2018 17:30:21 GMT -5
The cult label is also because they claim to be the only true way and all other churches are false. Salvation is only through their church. Sound familiar?
For mainstream Christians Jesus alone is the way.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jun 9, 2018 17:31:34 GMT -5
Interesting! A couple days ago I got a "flyer" from Guideposts and wondered where it came from since it has been years since I've had contact at all with the JW. If they followed trail from here, there must have been some hacking involved because my address is not posted anywhere public AFAIK. interesting....but really the best they could do is get your IP address here at TMB which would only lead them to the city your in, unless of course they have someone who works for your IP provider then they could pin it to a physical address.... My I got an email from one. I didn't open it but deleted it.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jun 9, 2018 17:34:07 GMT -5
As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar. The usage of the cult label in this thread is most likely because JWs are clearly not Trinitarian. You won't hear complaints about, say, Catholic infiltration. The only Catholics on TMB, that I know, are ex two by twos or were raised in the two by twos.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 19:33:47 GMT -5
I was once asked what would happen if the JW paper "The Watchtower" was printed on sandpaper. The answer is, most souls it would not affect, but there are souls it would affect.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 9, 2018 20:07:52 GMT -5
interesting....but really the best they could do is get your IP address here at TMB which would only lead them to the city your in, unless of course they have someone who works for your IP provider then they could pin it to a physical address.... My I got an email from one. I didn't open it but deleted it. I was contacted by "zenny" here on TMB - not by email.
I wonder if anyone else was contacted by zenny or truecompanion?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 9, 2018 20:15:13 GMT -5
Interesting! A couple days ago I got a "flyer" from Guideposts and wondered where it came from since it has been years since I've had contact at all with the JW. If they followed trail from here, there must have been some hacking involved because my address is not posted anywhere public AFAIK. The Guideposts isn't putout by the JW, is it?
I thought it was by one of the mainline Protestant churches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 21:22:59 GMT -5
My I got an email from one. I didn't open it but deleted it. I was contacted by "zenny" here on TMB - not by email.
I wonder if anyone else was contacted by zenny or truecompanion?
yes....on TMB
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 9, 2018 21:45:12 GMT -5
How did I get left out?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 9, 2018 23:28:22 GMT -5
I was also left out I feel quite slighted!
But then I did have a couple of talks with two young Mormon men last month!
I was telling them about my great-grandmother being a Mormon. One of them actually physically jerked his head back when I finally got around to saying I was an atheist!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 23:33:10 GMT -5
As I have said before, the difference between a church and a cult is the size of the congregation. All other aspects, of which you mentioned a few, are similar. I thought it depended on whether your community thought it was separating the sheep from the goats or if they were just celebrating salvation. good perspective
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jun 9, 2018 23:41:00 GMT -5
My I got an email from one. I didn't open it but deleted it. I was contacted by "zenny" here on TMB - not by email. I wonder if anyone else was contacted by zenny or truecompanion?
I was pm'd also on TMB.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jun 9, 2018 23:44:12 GMT -5
Shame on you. You've given that poor fellow the wry neck! ;-)
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 9, 2018 23:49:04 GMT -5
Shame on you. You've given that poor fellow the wry neck! ;-) Shame on you. You've given that poor fellow the wry neck! ;-)
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Post by snow on Jun 10, 2018 12:32:45 GMT -5
My I got an email from one. I didn't open it but deleted it. I was contacted by "zenny" here on TMB - not by email. I wonder if anyone else was contacted by zenny or truecompanion?
I only received a couple of PM's here on TMB. No emails anywhere else.
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Post by faune on Jun 10, 2018 22:03:19 GMT -5
Seems hilarious that one cult infiltrates another cult. Perhaps that is because they each call themselves "the Truth?" Actually, a lot of JW teachings were incorporated by William Irvine into his 2x2 Experiment. They must have felt right at home on TMB due to the similarities?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 22:11:29 GMT -5
Seems hilarious that one cult infiltrates another cult. Perhaps that is because they each call themselves "the Truth?" Actually, a lot of JW teachings were incorporated by William Irvine into his 2x2 Experiment. They must have felt right at home on TMB due to the similarities? and what teachings would that be?
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