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Post by nathan on Dec 23, 2019 23:04:48 GMT -5
~~ Valiant Thor "Created Being" from Interior planet of Venus arrived in 1957-60 at the Pentagon said to Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges, " There is LIFE on MANY other Planets, that the people of this earth know nothing about. There are presently 77 of us/Venusians walking among you in the United States. We are constantly coming and going. "
We (Pastor Frank and Valiant Thor) discussed the merits of Jesus Christ ... how He gave His Life freely... so that men could enjoy the benefits of eternal life. I questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me that a personal unbroken fellowship with the "Author" did not necessitate the printing of a "book". He found it amusing that many theologians attempt to discredit both Jesus Christ and The Bible. The very God many have said is "dead" continues to lavish them with all good things. Perhaps they will, in time, permit the spark of Divine Light to again illuminate their troubled hearts. In answer to my question of what he thought of Jesus Christ, he said, "I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else faith. He today has assumed His rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by His Name to ascend far above the clouds to where His Power and Authority shall never again be disputed.
There are more solar systems for which man has not even given God credit. There are many beings that have never transgressed the perfect laws of God. Man does not possess the right to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience."web.archive.org/web/20180407191858/http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/valthor2.html Your god does not get any credit for any solar system. hmmmmm…. Are you atheists say that the Creators: God the Father the MOST High God Creator of ALL Things and Christ/God the Father Co-Creator of all things, do NOT get any credit for Their OWN Creation of the Universe, trillions galaxies, and the Milk Way galaxy? You atheists are bunch of LOONEY! Losers.
~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls)
I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.
I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times
I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind.
It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you!
It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me.
Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.”
Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen!
You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact.
1) Enuf wrote: Who is the author and the link for this site, please? YOu can not acknowledge copyright if there is no author to copyright it to. I would have thought the author would have been God or at least the person who wrote them in the beginning, so copy right would have expired upon death. What year were they written? ~~ NathanB: The author was © Dr. Frank E. Stranges.
It was Jesus Christ who wrote or dictate someone to write "Jesus the I AM God", for Him.
The man who saw and met Jesus Inside interior planet of Venus a few times there. The information of this Dead Sea Scroll article was given to Him by Valiant Thor, the Venusian Guardian angel from Interior planet of Venus. Valiant T. revealed to Frank MANY amazing Dead Sea Scrolls information that was hidden from the Public views.
Frank Stranges posted many of these amazing Dead Sea Scrolls information written in his books. Part I, II, III. Here is Frank lecture who told and revealed the Dead Sea Scrolls to him which the public do NOT KNOW about it. This is a MUST listen Video... Jesus is the Emmanuel= God/the Christ with us. There were other human race before Adam and Eve. God assigned guardian angels and ministering angels send to help mankind. Noah's Ark was protected by a force field. Ezekiel was taken to the Interior planet Venus. God assigned guardian angels and ministering angels send to help mankind. Noah's Ark was protected by a force field. Ezekiel was taken to the Interior planet Venus.
There are MANY planets/mansion in the Universe/My Father's house, shall be your future Dwelling places! God said I have prepared MANY places for you to visit because I am God and I will always accompanying you... The devil will try to destroy your faith... I will send my angels to protect you..
(Part I) www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Frank+Stranges+Dead+Sea+Scrolls&&view=detail&mid=A42EB39FA9BA3803A71DA42EB39FA9BA3803A71D&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DFrank%2BStranges%2BDead%2BSea%2BScrolls%26Form%3DVDRSCL%26%3D0
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Post by nathan on Dec 23, 2019 23:48:30 GMT -5
Dec 23, 2019 nathan said: Paul wrote in Romans 3:23-25 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Hades/inner earth is the place Satan, the god of this world KEEPS ALL humans souls after death! to take with him to face or give an account before God in the judgment DAY! and to be cast in the Lake of Fire forever= Second death. Only those who had Faith in Christ in the Old Testament left HADES after His Spirit went there to rescue them from there. Now, the New Testament believers no longer go to HADES after death but their souls/spirits go to heaven and be with Christ and God.
Jude 6 And the fallen angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, God hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. When that little angel grows up he/she is a sinner.... It's in their DNA= Death already branded in their nature, there is no escape except they are BORN AGAIN! in the image of Christ.
1) STR wrote: That IS NOT SAYING newborn babies’ souls belong to Satan immediately on birth.
Yes they must be born again in the spirit by the Spirit to enter into the kingdom of heaven but the workers/ministers have always used Jesus’ age of 12 in the temple as the age of spiritual responsibility. Being able to make their own choices with wisdom. Newborn and younger then 12 y/o children are not considered “sinners” in the same sense that 12 t/o and up are because they are not able to be responsible for their choices. Their eternal welfare rests in their parents.
What you quoted is dealing with being justified freely by his grace not the law because no flesh shall be justified by the law. Only through Christ Jesus can their be justification for any repentant sinner.
~~ Nathan: ALL humans fallen babies, teenagers and adults souls belong to Satan! ALL of them need to be SET FREE ONLY through Jesus Christ. All babies when they grow up they are ALL adults SINNERS!
King David wrote Ps 51:1-5 Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest. Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Paul wrote in Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man/Adam sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
~~ Justin Martyr (160 A.D.) God ordained that, if Adam kept partake the Tree of life, he would partake of immortality existence. However, if he transgressed it, his lot would be just the opposite. Having been made in this manner, man soon went towards transgression. And so he naturally became subject to corruption. Therefore, corruption became inherent in nature.
~~ Irenaeus (180 A.D.) By means of our first parents, we were ALL brought into bondage by being made subject to Death.
~~ Tertullian (210 A.D.) Every soul then, by reason of its birth, has its nature in Adam UNTIL it is born again in Christ. Man was condemned to DEATH for tasting the fruit of one poor tree. From that, there proceeded sins with their penalties. It was necessary that Christ would come forth for the salvation of man in that same condition of flesh into which had entered ever since his condemnation.
Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 7:14: “For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.”
~~ This verse seems to teach that an unbelieving spouse can be saved on the basis of his or her spouse’s faith in Christ. It also seems to say that their children will be holy before the Lord because one of their parents is saved. However, the time will come that the unbelieving husband, wife and children must confess Christ as their Savior themselves to be SAVED.
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Post by Roselyn T on Dec 24, 2019 0:48:05 GMT -5
I think we all know who the "LOONEY LOSER" is nathan !!! It seems to get loonier by the day !
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 24, 2019 1:39:36 GMT -5
Your god does not get any credit for any solar system. hmmmmm…. Are you atheists say that the Creators: God the Father the MOST High God Creator of ALL Things and Christ/God the Father Co-Creator of all things, do NOT get any credit for Their OWN Creation of the Universe, trillions galaxies, and the Milk Way galaxy? You atheists are bunch of LOONEY! Losers.
~~ Jesus The Great " I AM " God (From The Dead Sea Scrolls)
I, the Lord God of creation, who was and who is and who shall always be the one true God, the mind, the very center of the Universe, speaks to your own heart. The words that I have spoken to my prophets Moses and others were that he should recognize that the great “I Am.” filled his being with the power and the authority to open his mouth in my name and to proclaim his words as a living words that I placed deeply within him.
I have in times past spoken through the mouths of my prophets and then through the mouths of my apostles. Now the times and seasons are approaching, as are the reasons, when my words shall again be spoken by my obedient prophets and apostles. Their words shall be my words and their deeds that shall be my deeds, because I have spoken this thing before the World was ever formed. Those words that I now speak shall be hidden for a season and then shall be revealed in the last times
I shall cause the Earth to quake and the sunlight, which represents the new dawning, shall shine brightly upon those who are appointed to carry my words from the darkness of the caves to the bright sunlight of my new revelation to all mankind and mankind shall read and they shall study those words and they shall find that they are the words that will cause an awakening to occur in the minds of mankind.
It has been said in times past that I am in the wind and I am in the fire and I am into the waters. These words are not true. The truth of this matter is that I am the wind. I am the fire. I am the water. I am in everything and in everything that exists. When you touch the mountain, you touch me. When you are touching the water, you are touching me. When you touch the fire, you are touching me. I am the Lord of the Universe and there is not one place that I am not. I am not in the flowers, the plants, the fruit of the land, but I am the flowers. I am the plants. I am the fruit of the land. Mankind will climb into the heavens. I am not in the heavenly, but I am the heavenly. When I created man from the dust of the Earth, I was the dust of the Earth and I was and am the breath of life that causes mankind to live.
Say not that the Lord your God is in the heavens or on the Earth. I am the heavens and I am the Earth. Now you have received the true revelation of my word, which was spoken to you in times past. The word said that I am everywhere present. I am omnipresent. I am not part of myself, but rather I am the whole of the Universe. Wherever you look, wherever you come or go, whatever you do or say, I am there in the midst of you because I am not only in, but rather I am you!
It shall be written in the future that man is the universe. I say to you that I do not dwell in the universe of mankind, but I am that Universe of Mankind, and there is no separation whatsoever. These words that I have spoken to you at this time and in this place are that you might believe the truth of the message that as my Father is one with me so is the Spirit one with me. Now I am likewise in you and you are in me and that means I am one and you are with me. Have I not spoken these words in the past that I am in you and you are in me? (John 17:21) Jesus said, " That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." Let this testimony be with you forever and forever, as we together traverse the streets of that sojourn from dawn to night. Be at peace and look deeply within yourself and you will find me.
Again I have spoken the words in the past that you are indeed gods. I am your God. This revelation is of utmost importance and you must believe the whole truth as I have spoken it in your pure hearing. I say to you, allow the vibrations of your spirit, your inner ear, be unstopped and hear what the Spirit says to you at this hour. I am the center of your universe, because I am the whole of your universe. Know this, for this is the word of the living God, the Creator of all things which are. In time and seasons to come this word will be revealed to you and you shall behold the brightness of this truth, and you shall say, “This is the light for which I have long awaited. This is the revelation that will hold and maintain me through every experience of life.”
Beware, there are those who would destroy this truth, but they shall not be able to destroy this truth because the truth abides in you and you abide in the truth. I have spoken in times past. And I have said that the truth shall cause many to walk in freedom, out of darkness and satanic bondage. And they shall have no further influence or rule over you. I have spoken these truths by the words of my lips and these words are true. Accept them and you shall live in peace, in joy and in victory over all things. Amen!
You are invited to share this information with others, but kindly acknowledge copyright and keep this article intact.
It's a nonsense story made up to trap the gullible like yourself who then become enslaved to the mythology.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 24, 2019 1:43:52 GMT -5
Plagarism is illegal, and also dishonest. I would think someone who was a former worker and someone who is still a member of "the truth", would place a high value on honesty, and following the laws of your country. I was given by John Long himself, permission in writing to reproduce John Long's Journal...and it is copyrighted by TTT. Cherie, besides the legal issues do you realize that you just pointed out Nathan has no understanding of critical study of the facts surrounding the 2x2 belief system or for that fact any other christian historical study. If he did he would not be parroting you and come up with his own theme and words to describe it. Yeah. You should have seen his parroted version of one of Willis Propp's sermons. Copy and paste is an improvement.
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Post by nathan on Jan 8, 2020 2:31:29 GMT -5
1) The MOST amanzing video on the Nephilim: Origin of Genetic Evil, the Nephilim. NEPHILIM (FULL) DOCUMENTARY - over 6.5 Millions viewers!
godinanutshell.com/product/nep... Journey into the world of Fallen Angels, Satan, Shadow People, Aliens, Demons, Anunnaki, Archons, Ancient Giants, "Ancient Aliens" & Genetic Hybrids. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zz8_MxcnzY&list=PLoznrhD9mikJhf9IN032IK7c-_0883AHQ&index=22) Museum of the giants skeletons www.bing.com/images/search?q=museum+of+the+giants&qpvt=Museum+of+the+giants&FORM=IGRE3) MANY Newspapers articles on Giants skeletons found in North America www.bing.com/images/search?q=giants+skeletons+found+in+america+newspaper+articles&qpvt=Giants+skeletons+found+in+America+News+paper+articles&form=IQFRML&first=1&cw=1117&ch=543Here are two most compelling caught on Video the existence of Mermaids. See it for yourself! 1) Mermaid caught in a fishing net.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKtUyIftrVU2) Camera Captures Mermaid on Submersible | Mermaids
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSG3kPa-jOU~~ Pastor Chuck Missler on Gen. 6:1-4 Who are the Sons of God= the fallen angels of God that had Sex with the woman creating the Nephilim- the Giants on the earth to rule the world! One world Order/Satanism.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+chuck+missler+on+Genesis+6%3A1-5~~ Pastor Chuck Missler - Return Of The Nephilim_pictures of UFO's_ Aliens & the Bible. Very good sermon! This Pastor has a great knowledge and understanding on these subjects.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Itl5ChyCs1) BobW. wrote: Do you know anything about the Coneheads? ~~ NathanB: Yes, I know and remember Dan Aykroyd and his co-star coneheads on SNL days. Here is a VERY interesting and Amazing Dan Aykroyd his knowledge about UFO and aliens interview. Dan Aykroyd who is a believer in the existence and government cover-up of alien life-forms hosts this look into the phenomenon of UFO sightings. Akroyd shares his personal experiences in this field and also discusses recent findings with author and UFOlogist David Sereda. Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs - 2012 (Full Documentary)
YouTube · 1,186,000+ views · 1/15/2014www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3-GS-dZj2c&list=PL056FCF84DA8D397A2) Wally wrote: hahahaha that was a pretty good burn on BobW. there... Nathan, you turned his joke back on him... ~~ NathanB: BobW. thinks I live in a CAVE all my life! and I don't KNOW what is going or I am just a nutcase. I Just want to show him, I wasn't born yesterday and I KNOW a lot things, more than the average Americans or Orientals.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 12, 2020 2:41:19 GMT -5
Nathan, in some ways you remind me of Sid Barrett.
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Post by nathan on Jan 13, 2020 10:19:47 GMT -5
Nathan, in some ways you remind me of Sid Barrett. 45 things God hates, you fit on the list that I high lighted on red, Curly.
1. Homosexual acts (Leviticus 18:22). 2. Bestiality (Leviticus 18:23) 3. Idols, and the materials used to make idols (Deuteronomy 7:25) 4. Blemished sacrifices (Deuteronomy 17:1) 5. Worshipping the sun, moon or stars (Deuteronomy 17:3-4) 6. Divination (Deuteronomy 18:10) 7. Astrology (Deuteronomy 18:10) 8. Enchanters (Deuteronomy 18:10) 9. Witches (Deuteronomy 18:10) 10. Charmers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 11. Wizards (Deuteronomy 18:11) 12. Necromancers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 13. Transvestitism (Deuteronomy 22:5) 14. The hire of a lady (Deuteronomy 23:18) 15. Remarriage to a former wife after she has been married to another man (Deuteronomy 24:4) 16. Dishonest scales (Deuteronomy 25:13-16) 17. Workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5) 18. The wicked (Psalm 11:5) 19. Those who love violence (Psalm 11:5) 20. The froward [perverse] (Proverbs 3:32) 21. A proud look (Proverbs 6:16-17) 22. A lying tongue (Proverbs 6:17)
23. Hands that shed innocent blood (Proverbs 6:17) 24. A heart that devises wicked imaginations (Proverbs 6:18) 25. Feet that are swift in running to mischief (Proverbs 6:18) 26. A false witness who speaks lies (Proverbs 6:19) 27. Anyone who sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:19) 28. Lying lips (Proverbs 12:22)
29. The sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8) 30. The ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9) 31. The thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
32. The proud in heart (Proverbs 16:5) 33. Those who justify the wicked (Proverbs 17:15) 34. Those who condemn the just (Proverbs 17:15)www.livingtheway.org/43things.html
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 13, 2020 11:41:30 GMT -5
Nathan, in some ways you remind me of Sid Barrett. 45 things God hates, you fit on the list that I high lighted on red, Curly.
1. Homosexual acts (Leviticus 18:22). 2. Bestiality (Leviticus 18:23) 3. Idols, and the materials used to make idols (Deuteronomy 7:25) 4. Blemished sacrifices (Deuteronomy 17:1) 5. Worshipping the sun, moon or stars (Deuteronomy 17:3-4) 6. Divination (Deuteronomy 18:10) 7. Astrology (Deuteronomy 18:10) 8. Enchanters (Deuteronomy 18:10) 9. Witches (Deuteronomy 18:10) 10. Charmers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 11. Wizards (Deuteronomy 18:11) 12. Necromancers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 13. Transvestitism (Deuteronomy 22:5) 14. The hire of a lady (Deuteronomy 23:18) 15. Remarriage to a former wife after she has been married to another man (Deuteronomy 24:4) 16. Dishonest scales (Deuteronomy 25:13-16) 17. Workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5) 18. The wicked (Psalm 11:5) 19. Those who love violence (Psalm 11:5) 20. The froward [perverse] (Proverbs 3:32) 21. A proud look (Proverbs 6:16-17) 22. A lying tongue (Proverbs 6:17)
23. Hands that shed innocent blood (Proverbs 6:17) 24. A heart that devises wicked imaginations (Proverbs 6:18) 25. Feet that are swift in running to mischief (Proverbs 6:18) 26. A false witness who speaks lies (Proverbs 6:19) 27. Anyone who sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:19) 28. Lying lips (Proverbs 12:22)
29. The sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8) 30. The ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9) 31. The thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
32. The proud in heart (Proverbs 16:5) 33. Those who justify the wicked (Proverbs 17:15) 34. Those who condemn the just (Proverbs 17:15)www.livingtheway.org/43things.htmlYou really are quite a clown Nathan. Remember, it is you that tells us Byrds diary is true and that planets are hollow. Both are monstrous falsehoods.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 13, 2020 19:56:34 GMT -5
Nathan, in some ways you remind me of Sid Barrett. 45 things God hates, you fit on the list that I high lighted on red, Curly.
1. Homosexual acts (Leviticus 18:22). 2. Bestiality (Leviticus 18:23) 3. Idols, and the materials used to make idols (Deuteronomy 7:25) 4. Blemished sacrifices (Deuteronomy 17:1) 5. Worshipping the sun, moon or stars (Deuteronomy 17:3-4) 6. Divination (Deuteronomy 18:10) 7. Astrology (Deuteronomy 18:10) 8. Enchanters (Deuteronomy 18:10) 9. Witches (Deuteronomy 18:10) 10. Charmers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 11. Wizards (Deuteronomy 18:11) 12. Necromancers (Deuteronomy 18:11) 13. Transvestitism (Deuteronomy 22:5) 14. The hire of a lady (Deuteronomy 23:18) 15. Remarriage to a former wife after she has been married to another man (Deuteronomy 24:4) 16. Dishonest scales (Deuteronomy 25:13-16) 17. Workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5) 18. The wicked (Psalm 11:5) 19. Those who love violence (Psalm 11:5) 20. The froward [perverse] (Proverbs 3:32) 21. A proud look (Proverbs 6:16-17) 22. A lying tongue (Proverbs 6:17)
23. Hands that shed innocent blood (Proverbs 6:17) 24. A heart that devises wicked imaginations (Proverbs 6:18) 25. Feet that are swift in running to mischief (Proverbs 6:18) 26. A false witness who speaks lies (Proverbs 6:19) 27. Anyone who sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:19) 28. Lying lips (Proverbs 12:22)
29. The sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8) 30. The ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9) 31. The thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
32. The proud in heart (Proverbs 16:5) 33. Those who justify the wicked (Proverbs 17:15) 34. Those who condemn the just (Proverbs 17:15)www.livingtheway.org/43things.html😜😜😜 OMG what a hypocrite you are nathan !!! You believe so many porkies from your mate Stranges that are outright lies !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 21:18:14 GMT -5
1) The MOST amanzing video on the Nephilim: Origin of Genetic Evil, the Nephilim. NEPHILIM (FULL) DOCUMENTARY - over 6.5 Millions viewers!
godinanutshell.com/product/nep... Journey into the world of Fallen Angels, Satan, Shadow People, Aliens, Demons, Anunnaki, Archons, Ancient Giants, "Ancient Aliens" & Genetic Hybrids. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zz8_MxcnzY&list=PLoznrhD9mikJhf9IN032IK7c-_0883AHQ&index=22) Museum of the giants skeletons www.bing.com/images/search?q=museum+of+the+giants&qpvt=Museum+of+the+giants&FORM=IGRE3) MANY Newspapers articles on Giants skeletons found in North America www.bing.com/images/search?q=giants+skeletons+found+in+america+newspaper+articles&qpvt=Giants+skeletons+found+in+America+News+paper+articles&form=IQFRML&first=1&cw=1117&ch=543Here are two most compelling caught on Video the existence of Mermaids. See it for yourself! 1) Mermaid caught in a fishing net.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKtUyIftrVU2) Camera Captures Mermaid on Submersible | Mermaids
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSG3kPa-jOU~~ Pastor Chuck Missler on Gen. 6:1-4 Who are the Sons of God= the fallen angels of God that had Sex with the woman creating the Nephilim- the Giants on the earth to rule the world! One world Order/Satanism.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pastor+chuck+missler+on+Genesis+6%3A1-5~~ Pastor Chuck Missler - Return Of The Nephilim_pictures of UFO's_ Aliens & the Bible. Very good sermon! This Pastor has a great knowledge and understanding on these subjects.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Itl5ChyCs1) BobW. wrote: Do you know anything about the Coneheads? ~~ NathanB: Yes, I know and remember Dan Aykroyd and his co-star coneheads on SNL days. Here is a VERY interesting and Amazing Dan Aykroyd his knowledge about UFO and aliens interview. Dan Aykroyd who is a believer in the existence and government cover-up of alien life-forms hosts this look into the phenomenon of UFO sightings. Akroyd shares his personal experiences in this field and also discusses recent findings with author and UFOlogist David Sereda. Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs - 2012 (Full Documentary)
YouTube · 1,186,000+ views · 1/15/2014www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3-GS-dZj2c&list=PL056FCF84DA8D397A2) Wally wrote: hahahaha that was a pretty good burn on BobW. there... Nathan, you turned his joke back on him... ~~ NathanB: BobW. thinks I live in a CAVE all my life! and I don't KNOW what is going or I am just a nutcase. I Just want to show him, I wasn't born yesterday and I KNOW a lot things, more than the average Americans or Orientals.
Self praise is no recommendation. We notice you do it on a regular basis.
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Post by Annan on Jan 13, 2020 21:48:21 GMT -5
Forgot one!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 13, 2020 23:22:23 GMT -5
Nathan is a disgrace to the meetings. He makes the whole lot of them look really stupid and I am at a loss to know why they still allow him to be a member. There are many fine people that go to the meetings. They would be horrified at this madmans notions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 23:46:27 GMT -5
Nathan is a disgrace to the meetings. He makes the whole lot of them look really stupid and I am at a loss to know why they still allow him to be a member. There are many fine people that go to the meetings. They would be horrified at this madmans notions. Very apt Curly. Yes I’m sure, we both know various ‘fine people’ that go to mtgs. I believe the ones that know are horrified. cheers.
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Post by Roselyn T on Jan 14, 2020 1:56:03 GMT -5
Nathan is a disgrace to the meetings. He makes the whole lot of them look really stupid and I am at a loss to know why they still allow him to be a member. There are many fine people that go to the meetings. They would be horrified at this madmans notions. I agree curly, he makes the 2x2 look like some weird church. Thankfully there are a lot of good people, who would be horrified with Nathan's crazy ideas.
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Post by nathan on Feb 1, 2020 8:53:10 GMT -5
Jan 31, 2020 sharingtheriches said: It says the GLORY of God lightens the city. Then it further explains what that GLORY is and that GLORY IS THE LAMB. NIV: The Son is in very nature, God. Phillipians 2:6 The lamp is in very nature the power source. It is the power source expressed. Jesus is the 'express' image of God, i.e. God expressed himself through Jesus. Every true Christian has a part in this as well. 1) Mountain wrote: Shaz I'nm a self-confessed thicko. Please provide the scripture which supports the emboldened portion of your quote above along with your understanding of it. This is not from Phillipians 2. Here is something else from Phillipians 2 though. 12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. 14 Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15 so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.”[c] Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky 16 as you hold firmly to the word of life. And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain. Look at the above verses, especially the emboldened part. This is exactly how God worked in and through the human being Jesus. It is this example that Paul exhorts us to follow. A way, a truth and a life. Nort a one of event. A course, a journey unto the end! 2) Nathan: Str, is correct... Christ/God= Jesus has His own glory like the Father and the Holy Spirit have their own glory. Each has their own individual personality, Spirit and Mind of their own but THEY are united as ONE in UNITY, Harmony and Love. ONE Godhead but three supreme beings.
Christ is an ETERNAL God like unto the Father, and the Holy Spirit. The early 2x2 workers believed/taught the Trinity, the Deity of Christ, Jesus is God NOT the Father but the Son. Snow wrote: Triune God. It's like laundry detergent with softer, detergent and oxi in it! ha! Get more for your money with a 3 in 1 product!
~~ In the 1950s, 1960, and 1970s and to the current day of 2x2 workers and friends, many senior workers and overseers workers the 2nd generation because of their LACK of understanding of the Scriptures and history of the TRUE Trinity doctrine of the early church fathers in the 2nd century, the workers have erred in their teachings and belief, they became anti-Trinity and anti- the Divinity of Christ/God and they taught the friends to think and believe like them for the last 70 yrs.
Corrections of references to Jesus being God:
"When I Survey the Wondrous Cross" by Isaac Watts "Forbid it Lord, that I should boast, Was No. 15 - "Save in the CROSS of Christ MY LORD" Now No. 6 - "Save in the DEATH of Christ MY GOD." (Gal. 6:14: "But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus." NOTE: The Go-Preacher, 1928 and 1935 editions contained "Christ my God." It was changed in the 1951 and 1987 editions to "Christ my Lord." Deletions of reference to the Trinity:
Removed No. 239, a beautiful, favorite hymn titled "Cease Not" by worker James Fawcett. "Our Blest Redeemer" NOW No. 208 "Our Blest Redeemer" Original and earlier edition of HO&N has an extra verse (#6), which is omitted in the 1987 edition: "O Praise the Father, Praise the Son, Blest Spirit, praise to Thee; All praise to God, the Three in One, The one in Three." [Redemption Songs contains this hymn as No. 539] Removed Hymn No. 259 of 1935 edition which started out with: "Hearken to the earnest pleadings of the Holy Trinity "Who will go for us" with tidings of sweet rest and liberty?" NOTE: There is still one hymn in HO&N that alludes that Jesus "God." "Come Follow Me," No. 82. Verse 1: "I hear my dying Savior savior say: Follow me! Come follow me!" Verse 3: "In all thy changeful life I'll be Thy God and Giide o'er land and sea." Hymn No. 359 from 1935 Hymnbook was not included in the succeeding 1951 edition (author unknown) Verse 1: "Hearken to the earnest pleadings of the Holy Trinity "Who will go for us" with tidings of sweet rest and liberty? Souls are perishing by the millions with no ray of hope to cheer, "Who will go for us," and tell them of the One to serve and fear. www.tellingthetruth.info/hymns/hymn1987.php#changesEach divine being, Christ/God, God the Father and the Holy Spirit has an important role in our Salvation. This is the TRUE doctrine and teaching of the TRINITY and Triune God.
The concept of the Triune God is taught in the Old and New Testament. In the 2nd century the second generation of the apostles/church fathers came up with a beautiful description word "Trinity" to describe the Triune God in the Bible.The 2nd century apostles.... From A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs by David W. BercotHippolytus (205 A.D.) "Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." By this, He showed that whoever omits any one of them, fails in glorifying God perfectly. For it is through the TRINITY that the Father is glorified. For the Father willed, the Son did, and the Spirit manifested.It is the Father who commands, and the Son who obeys, and the Holy Spirit who give understanding. T he Father is above ALL, the Son is through ALL, and the Holy Spirit is in ALL. Paul the apostle explains that there is the exact same order within the TRINITY, saying, "I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God." (I Cor. 11:3). So the Father has authority over the Son. The Son is sent by the Father; the Son does the will of the Father; and the Son sits at the Father's right hand. This hierarchy of order can not be reversed. Yet this hierarchy of order in no way diminishes the Son's divinity.
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Post by nathan on Feb 2, 2020 10:01:07 GMT -5
Feb 1, 2020 enuf said: Simply put, how I see the Trinity is that The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, these 3 parts make up God or what some call the Godhead. The Father is not the Son neither is the Son the Father. The Catholics view these 3 as one being but Protestants view of the Trinity is different in that they see them as 3 separate beings with each part being a part of God. A bit like the arm is not the leg and the leg is not the arm, each part is separate and have separate functions but each is a part of our body, much like the Trinity having 3 parts of which together make God. I don't know why people think it's complicated, it seems simple to me. 2) STR wrote: I’ve always disliked the Catholic description of the Trinity because people almost always interpret that as three Gods. And I struggled for a long time to find an easier way to understand and/or explain the Trinity. One day for some reason I happened to trad the NIV translation of Phillipians 2:6. And it says “And he(Jesus) being in very nature God...” There is only one God. God is not a person’s name. It is their nature. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are their names. They all have God nature, they all possess the godhead, they all are divine. It finally made sense. The same powers, wisdom, knowledge and understanding. 3) NathanB: The RCC got in trouble, with all kinds of confusion in the 4th century when the bishop name Arius and his followers threw a monkey wrench in the True teaching of the Trinity doctrine taught by the early church fathers.
Just like the 2x2 workers who came into power in 1950s- to now... Majority of the workers and the friends have rejected the early days workers who taught and believed the Trinity, Jesus is NOT God because of their lack understanding in the Trinity doctrine and scriptures.
In 1970s there were some workers still believe and taught the Trinity/Jesus is God such as John Starkweather, Truitt Oyler and his brother, and a few others through the years but the anti-Trinity overseers excommunicated them from the ministry. I hope and pray things will get turn around, but it will take time like it took almost 60 yrs for the workers and the friends in 1950s to now to become anti-Trinity and anti-Christ is NOT God.Arius (/əˈraɪəs, ˈɛəri-/; Koinē Greek: Ἄρειος, Áreios; 250 or 256–336) was a Libyan presbyter and ascetic,[1] and priest in Baucalis in Alexandria, Egypt.[2] His teachings about the nature of the Godhead in Christianity, which emphasized God the Father's uniqueness and Christ's subordination under the Father,[3] and his opposition to what would become the dominant Christology, Homoousian Christology, made him a primary topic of the First Council of Nicaea, which was convened by Emperor Constantine the Great in 325. After Emperors Licinius and Constantine legalized and formalized the Christianity of the time in the Roman Empire, Constantine sought to unify the newly recognized Church and remove theological divisions.[4] The Christian Church was divided over disagreements on Christology, or, the nature of the relationship between Jesus and God. Homoousian Christians, including Athanasius of Alexandria, used Arius and Arianism as epithets to describe those who disagreed with their doctrine of coequal Trinitarianism, a Homoousian Christology representing God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son as "of one essence" ("consubstantial") and coeternal.Negative writings describe Arius's theology as one in which there was a time before the Son of God, when only God the Father existed. Despite concerted opposition, Arian Christian churches persisted throughout Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa, especially in various Germanic kingdoms, until suppressed by military conquest or voluntary royal conversion between the fifth and seventh centuries. The Son's precise relationship with the Father had been discussed for decades before Arius's advent; Arius intensified the controversy and carried it to a Church-wide audience, where others like Eusebius of Nicomedia proved much more influential in the long run. In fact, some later Arians disavowed the name, claiming not to have been familiar with the man or his specific teachings.[5][6] However, because the conflict between Arius and his foes brought the issue to the theological forefront, the doctrine he proclaimed—though not originated—is generally labeled as "his". but majority do NOT. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 2, 2020 20:57:36 GMT -5
Feb 1, 2020 enuf said: Simply put, how I see the Trinity is that The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, these 3 parts make up God or what some call the Godhead. The Father is not the Son neither is the Son the Father. The Catholics view these 3 as one being but Protestants view of the Trinity is different in that they see them as 3 separate beings with each part being a part of God. A bit like the arm is not the leg and the leg is not the arm, each part is separate and have separate functions but each is a part of our body, much like the Trinity having 3 parts of which together make God. I don't know why people think it's complicated, it seems simple to me. 2) STR wrote: I’ve always disliked the Catholic description of the Trinity because people almost always interpret that as three Gods. And I struggled for a long time to find an easier way to understand and/or explain the Trinity. One day for some reason I happened to trad the NIV translation of Phillipians 2:6. And it says “And he(Jesus) being in very nature God...” There is only one God. God is not a person’s name. It is their nature. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are their names. They all have God nature, they all possess the godhead, they all are divine. It finally made sense. The same powers, wisdom, knowledge and understanding. 3) NathanB: The RCC got in trouble, with all kinds of confusion in the 4th century when the bishop name Arius and his followers threw a monkey wrench in the True teaching of the Trinity doctrine taught by the early church fathers.
Just like the 2x2 workers who came into power in 1950s- to now... Majority of the workers and the friends have rejected the early days workers who taught and believed the Trinity, Jesus is NOT God because of their lack understanding in the Trinity doctrine and scriptures.
In 1970s there were some workers still believe and taught the Trinity/Jesus is God such as John Starkweather, Truitt Oyler and his brother, and a few others through the years but the anti-Trinity overseers excommunicated them from the ministry. I hope and pray things will get turn around, but it will take time like it took almost 60 yrs for the workers and the friends in 1950s to now to become anti-Trinity and anti-Christ is NOT God.Arius (/əˈraɪəs, ˈɛəri-/; Koinē Greek: Ἄρειος, Áreios; 250 or 256–336) was a Libyan presbyter and ascetic,[1] and priest in Baucalis in Alexandria, Egypt.[2] His teachings about the nature of the Godhead in Christianity, which emphasized God the Father's uniqueness and Christ's subordination under the Father,[3] and his opposition to what would become the dominant Christology, Homoousian Christology, made him a primary topic of the First Council of Nicaea, which was convened by Emperor Constantine the Great in 325. After Emperors Licinius and Constantine legalized and formalized the Christianity of the time in the Roman Empire, Constantine sought to unify the newly recognized Church and remove theological divisions.[4] The Christian Church was divided over disagreements on Christology, or, the nature of the relationship between Jesus and God. Homoousian Christians, including Athanasius of Alexandria, used Arius and Arianism as epithets to describe those who disagreed with their doctrine of coequal Trinitarianism, a Homoousian Christology representing God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son as "of one essence" ("consubstantial") and coeternal.Negative writings describe Arius's theology as one in which there was a time before the Son of God, when only God the Father existed. Despite concerted opposition, Arian Christian churches persisted throughout Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa, especially in various Germanic kingdoms, until suppressed by military conquest or voluntary royal conversion between the fifth and seventh centuries. The Son's precise relationship with the Father had been discussed for decades before Arius's advent; Arius intensified the controversy and carried it to a Church-wide audience, where others like Eusebius of Nicomedia proved much more influential in the long run. In fact, some later Arians disavowed the name, claiming not to have been familiar with the man or his specific teachings.[5][6] However, because the conflict between Arius and his foes brought the issue to the theological forefront, the doctrine he proclaimed—though not originated—is generally labeled as "his". but majority do NOT. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AriusMore "half baked" rubbish from nathan !!!
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 2, 2020 21:03:43 GMT -5
More "half baked" rubbish from nathan !!! Most of the time when I see it is from Nathan, I just scroll right past it. It simply isn't worth my time reading it.
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Post by mountain on Feb 4, 2020 9:02:41 GMT -5
More "half baked" rubbish from nathan !!! Most of the time when I see it is from Nathan, I just scroll right past it. It simply isn't worth my time reading it. I am very sorry to read this. Personally, I just could not bare to endure such impoverishment. He produces some very worthwhile information. Once you see the value of it, a desperate need develops, to the point you become like a thirsty cur lapping at a stream.
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Post by nathan on Feb 4, 2020 10:27:55 GMT -5
Feb 3, 2020 nathan said: *** Your parents/Anman must have been the generation of friends and workers in 1970s who became anti-Trinity and anti-Christ is NOT God. These workers teach the friends that the Trinity is the devils doctrine and it started by the RCC in the 3rd century. I too was taught that by them. What a bunch of HOG WASH! Your parents, myself and most of the friends have been taught incorrectly for 70 yrs by these overseers and current workers on the Godhead/anti-Trinity and Jesus is NOT God.1) MaryH/a Cooneyite/Edward Cooney follower wrote: So why are you a member of the f&w then? Because according to you they are blaspheming when they teach that Jesus isn't God and that the trinity is the doctrine of the devil and was made up by the RCC! I personally agree with them/2x2! ~~ Nathan wrote: To point out the current 2x2s have forsaken the teachings of Jesus, the apostles, and the early days workers teachings, the Trinity/Jesus is God and get back to the RIGHT path.
Jeremiah 6: 15-17 Were they ashamed of the abomination they committed? No, they were not at all ashamed; they did not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; when I punish them, they will collapse,” says the LORD. 16This is what the LORD says: “Stand at the crossroads and look. Ask for the ancient paths: Where is the good way? Then walk in it and find rest for your souls. But they said, ‘We will not walk in it!’ I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen for the sound of the ram’s horn.’ But they answered, ‘We will not listen!’…~~ I have read and heard of the 2x2s workers and friend have been classified by the Protestants as a Cult NOT Jesus TRUTH and WAY as they claim but they are classified on same group as JW, Mormons and a few anti-Trinity Protestants groups, which denied Jesus is NOT God or part of the Godhead.
Pastor Dave Legge on the Cooneyties/2x2 are anti-Trinity and Jesus is NOT God believers. They are a Cult and NOT Christians for denying Jesus is NOT part of the Godhead.www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0roC35Mdow&t=2627s
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Post by nathan on Feb 4, 2020 10:30:39 GMT -5
Feb 3, 2020 nathan said: *** Jesus told the Jews and the Pharisees in His days God is my Father! And ye seek to KILL me or stone me to death. According to the law of Moses we stone you because you are a MAN claimed to be God! That is the sin of BLASPHEMY.
1) MaryH said: They said he claimed to be God, but he never, he said he was the son of God and they were twisting his words so they could falsely accuse him of blasphemy. As seen below. John 10
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; BECAUSE I SAID, I AM THE SON OF GOD?
~~ Nathan Wrote: What do think when Jesus said he is the SON of God? It means Jesus said He has the SAME NATURE as God, who he called His Father. Here are verses where Jesus said He is God that He has the SAME nature as His heavenly Father. Christ/God Jesus was telling the Jews, the Pharisees the TRUTH that is He is God or the Almighty God Himself! but because of their Unbelief they wanted to stone him as a Blasphemer! a man claimed to be God by calling God His heavenly Father.
There are 3 that bear records in heaven God the Father, Christ the Word and Holy Spirit. (I John 5:7)
~~ Jesus Christ the I AM that I AM Almighty God.
1) John the apostle wrote it so clearly in John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God. He was in the World, and the World was MADE by Him, and the world knew him NOT. And the Word was made flesh and dwell among us. The Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God. Who do you SAY the Word is? Jesus! Read Rev. 19:11-16 And I/John saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
1) Jesus said in 95 A.D. Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev. 11:16-17 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and Worshiped God, saying:
“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.
Rev. 21:6,7 He/Christ that sat on the throne said unto me, "It is done, I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end." I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be MY Son."
2) John the apostle wrote in the gospel of John 5:17-18 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
3) Paul wrote in I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the Flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, PREACHED to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory.
4) The apostle Thomas said to Jesus after the resurrection, "My Lord and My God" in John 20:24-29. Jesus did NOT say don't call me Lord and God but accepted the title which Thomas called Him.
5) Mary the mother of Jesus said about the unborn Son in Luke 1:46-47 “My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior."
~~ ALL of the Angels in heaven, millions Saved people, Worship/Singing praises of the Lord God Almighty Jesus, the Lamb of God....
Revelation chapter 4:8-11 “Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.”
Revelation chapter 5:9-13 And they sang a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and has Redeemed us to God by thy BLOOD, out of every tribe and language and people and nation. You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”
Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!” Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 4, 2020 19:35:47 GMT -5
Where would the Workers be without the "Great" nathan !!! You seriously need a new hobby nathan !!! So much dribble and self promotion !!
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Post by nathan on Feb 9, 2020 9:40:56 GMT -5
We see the same problem is happening here like it did in the 2nd century church had back then, folks... History repeat itself on TMB... the OLD Arius and his followers spirits of anti-Christ Jesus is NOT God is coming back and on the RISE! one of them is the current 2x2s among many of the workers and the friends but the early days 2x2 workers and friends believed and taught the Trinity and Jesus is God and some still believe it and the number is GROWING! once they see the current workers teaching Arius false belief and teachings.
May God help us all, by NOT allowing them to pass on Arius and his followers false/heresy Anti-Christ Jesus is NOT God doctrine! to the WORLD again, which the early fathers church and Orthodox, and the RCC had CONDEMNED and EXCOMMUNICATED THEM from the church and ministry forever so, their false doctrines would NOT be passed on from one generation to the NEXT generation!
Arius (AD 250 or 256 - 336) was a fourth-century Alexandrian presbyter who was formally condemned as a heretic by the Orthodox Church. His heresy, referred to as Arianism, consisted of his teaching that the Son of God was not co-eternal and consubstantial with His Father, but was rather a created being, subordinate to the Father. Arius's belief was condemned by the First Ecumenical Council, at Nicea in 325. The council's decision did not immediately stop Arianism, however, as its proponent quickly returned to the Emperor's favor.
Even Arius' death, followed one year later by that of Constantine, did not lay the controversy to rest; that came about—in the Church, at least—through the teachings of the Cappadocian Fathers and the actions of the Second Ecumenical Council in 381. Arianism continued to linger in some Gothic and Vandal kingdoms of the West until it was finally suppressed in the seventh century. Arius's ideas are no longer accepted by any organized entity, though some modern sects like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons display Arian tendencies in their doctrine.
~~~ (Nathan writes: now others have joined in the band wagon possessing the same Arius spirits antichrist, Jesus is NOT God such as the Cooneyties/Edward Cooney's small band of followers and most of the current 2x2s workers and the friends since 1950 to 2020s.)According to Church historian Socrates Scholasticus, Arius entered in 318 into a dispute with Bishop Alexander of Alexandria over his teachings about God's divine Sonship and substance. Alexander had attempted to instruct his clergy on the unity of the Holy Trinity, but Arius—whether through misunderstanding, or a "love of controversy", as alleged by Socrates—opposed his bishop's teaching as smacking of Sabellianism.[1] Arius proffered his own syllogism: If the Father begat the Son, he that was begotten had a beginning of existence. From this it is evident that there was a time when the Son was not. It therefore necessarily follows that he had his substance from nothing. This, of course, denied the essential unity and consubstantiality of the Holy Trinity, and caused an uproar among Arius's listeners that quickly spread throughout the Church, as Arius insisted upon disseminating his ideas.
Although Arianism carries Arius's name, its doctrines did not entirely originate with him. Lucian of Antioch, Arius's teacher and mentor, was accused by Bishop Alexander of being the source for Arius's heretical teachings—not so much that Lucian had taught Arianism per se, but rather that he possessed certain heretical tendencies which he passed on to his pupil, Arius.[2] Indeed, the noted Russian historian Alexander Vasiliev refers to Lucian as "the Arius before Arius".[3] While Arius developed a following among some Syrian prelates, an Alexandrian synod of some 100 bishops summoned by Bishop Alexander condemned him in 321. He was excommunicated, and fled to Palestine. There he entered into a friendship with Eusebius of Nicomedia. Arius, a proficient writer, produced many compositions in both prose and verse defending his belief, including a poem that he called the Thalia. Most of these writings were destroyed as being heretical, though portions of the Thalia and a few other Arian texts survive. orthodoxwiki.org/Arius~~ Pastor David Legge's sermon against the 2x2s preachers and friends who are anti-Trinity believers, he put them on the same group as the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses anti-Trinity and Jesus is NOT God, they are religious CULTS. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwIIqHY9Cwg
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 9, 2020 20:45:02 GMT -5
Where would the Workers be without the "Great" nathan !!! You seriously need a new hobby nathan !!! So much dribble and self promotion !! When I was a worker my Co-workers call me Nate the "Great"... Maybe they saw something in me, and I didn't know. They call me the walking Bible because I memorized verses and I could put them out of my mind, which help a lot when visiting with religious people.Yes I am sure they "saw something in you" !!!
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Post by nathan on Feb 10, 2020 9:36:02 GMT -5
1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go.
2) RoseT. Wrote: Have you looked up some of the old threads yet reborn ? Where nathan called Sunday meetings ....Sunday Trinity Worship meetings !
3) STR wrote: Technically they are. The meetings include the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. When they take the bread and wine they are remembering Jesus and worshipping him as their Savior. They thank him for his sacrifice. They sing songs appropriate to worship him for his Redeeming
To not be worshipping Jesus, they would have to forego the bread and wine..
EDIT: And it is blasphemy to worship anyone that is not God. So those who worship Jesus with the bread and wine ritual ARE worshipping Jesus. But they don’t believe he is God, so the Bible says not to worship anybody but God. So technically it is blasphemy they are committing for they’re worshipping Jesus and not believing he is God. Is it a sin that’s unforgivable? Of course not, it’s done in ignorance.
4) Openingact123 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth.
Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5.
Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said: Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said:
It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live..You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life.
Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said:
Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns?
Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping.
Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time.
Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said:
I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it.
Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said:
I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'!
Jun 11, 2015 at 8:54pm @review005 said:
Fixit, I suggest you look through the last 150 posts you have made before you cast ad hominem attack stones. Your hypocrisy astounds me! Then the man who has posted over 12000 posts and refuses to address matters in real life makes accusations of me avoiding real issues! That really is the icing on the cake! Now please post again and fire another stone my way. Having the last word will leave you feeling fulfilled and happy. I'll gladly have dialogue and discussion with you if you ever have the moral character and backbone to discuss real issues in real life. Tired of this meaningless TMB online game you play.
Oct 22, 2014 at 12:02pm @review005 said:
You anonymously post for 20 years bold and often outrageous statements (and yes I can substantiate that also) but refuse to even meet your field workers or Alan (whom you describe as 'good' 'no problem with') to discuss 'concerns' you have. Until the anonymous online persona meets the real life elder persona the confidence crisis will remain for me. Real things get dealt with in real life face to face meetings. When that fails people come to TMB. You refuse to have real life meetings and rather post boldly and anonymously on TMB. This is the cause of my lack of confidence and reason to feel you do little more than play games in coming to TMB.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 11:36:02 GMT -5
not that i am a fan of review005 but it appears he was on to something concerning fixit it may be that we have another wolf in sheeps clothing here...
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Post by Roselyn T on Feb 11, 2020 0:43:43 GMT -5
Give up while you are ahead nathan !!
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