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Post by snow on Sept 26, 2018 17:39:50 GMT -5
I would like to know what was before the big bang and how it all started too. Trouble is, no one knows. It's not wise to just fill in the gaps with what we want to believe. There are no gaps , imo Huh? You know there are many people , even many scientists that think the “bang” is a myth! And now we can analyze it Ok. 😉 No for you there are no gaps. You fill them with 'God did it'. I do know there are people that deny what we have found out. That doesn't make them right.
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Post by Thankfully on Sept 26, 2018 18:22:42 GMT -5
There are no gaps , imo Huh? You know there are many people , even many scientists that think the “bang” is a myth! And now we can analyze it Ok. 😉 No for you there are no gaps. You fill them with 'God did it'. I do know there are people that deny what we have found out. That doesn't make them right. 99.99 % of what is knowable is unknown to mankind ! Does that make human knowledge quite precarious, at best. Give me some facts , and let those facts represent a solid evidence for what we will never ever know, and we find that without a planned creation, everything you haphazardly think is rational, is only a figment of human imagination. Hmmmmmmmmm.....😉😉
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Post by Thankfully on Sept 26, 2018 18:22:59 GMT -5
There are no gaps , imo Huh? You know there are many people , even many scientists that think the “bang” is a myth! And now we can analyze it Ok. 😉 No for you there are no gaps. You fill them with 'God did it'. I do know there are people that deny what we have found out. That doesn't make them right. 99.99 % of what is knowable is unknown to mankind ! Does that make human knowledge quite precarious, at best. Give me some facts , and let those facts represent a solid evidence for what we will never ever know, and we find that without a planned creation, everything you haphazardly think is rational, is only a figment of human imagination. Hmmmmmmmmm.....😉😉
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Post by Thankfully on Sept 26, 2018 18:27:13 GMT -5
In other words....., OR , give me the “game plan” that you believe controls Our outcome?? ?? Where is(are) the control button (s)
ie: “Grand Central Station”. 🤔
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Sept 27, 2018 3:45:17 GMT -5
Amazing creation , indeed . And it’s good to remember the “obvious” observation! “Who created that which , was never created ? ?” Oh, I know!! and the obvious conclusion is no one . Hmmmmmm , now why couldn’t we all think of that! 😉 I would like to know what was before the big bang and how it all started too. Trouble is, no one knows. It's not wise to just fill in the gaps with what we want to believe. Possibly a previous one ad infintum.
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Post by Whatis sci-fi? ? on Oct 11, 2018 17:40:18 GMT -5
In other words....., OR , give me the “game plan” that you believe controls Our outcome?? ?? Where is(are) the control button (s) ie: “Grand Central Station”. 🤔 (Responding to myself...ha) So , we see that all is order, and done in proper order! grand central station controls the operating mechanics, Much is understood by our symbolic language community (?). Ok, Paul is on Mars hill in Athens and presents to the Athenians our Living God , and represented Him as the “unknown god” And this , to the Athenians must have been a mild form of thinking outside their human limited concepts, into the concept of what Paul was trying to reveal, : the “Infiniteness of God”. The Athenians couldn’t perceive things that were concepts , when material world reveals only material answers. And yet they did know that the concept of infinite / infinity was and is Very real, Even though it is very difficult to comprehend its magesty, it is a very real , very important concept to the rationality of the human intelligence... hmmmmm. Ok? . We
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Post by Amazing body on Oct 24, 2018 18:34:27 GMT -5
It sure is
And above all our minds are so varied and individualized
(not like the “animals” , who for the most part are
greatly bennifited by “instincts” , and not surprising
Mostly “good” instincts .....
And imo these characteristics were built into each
for a definite purpose ? , No doubt about that. It’s , IMO,
Solid evidence that a master plan/Planner was behind
the creation, and is still planning what is to be for Eternity,
Lots of interesting thoughts , and things to be thankful For, IMO.
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Post by Pottery house on Oct 26, 2018 9:05:41 GMT -5
Jerimiah chapter 18.
One of the most beloved analogies, and universally understood for its significance concerning humanity and our known fallibility, and the great work of re-creation And even Hope for all humanity
And yes , it is very comforting to know that our Creator is also a Master Potter, Eh?
He knows what He wants the finished product to be, down to the smallest details, and at whatever stage the Potter wishes to make over and correct His work, He is respected for His goal/s , as it should be. ..
After all , can the vessel have a meaningful discussion with its creator and inquire “why hast thou made me thus?”
Um, and yet humanity has no clue/s , and we “know” we can be Re-created at the willingness of our soul , if we only Ask?
Thanks again
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Post by quest on Dec 12, 2018 18:59:34 GMT -5
Amazing features in the design of DNA youtu.be/37nCgkPiUroWell articulated lecture , by Dr James Tour .
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Post by rational on Dec 12, 2018 21:53:22 GMT -5
No for you there are no gaps. You fill them with 'God did it'. I do know there are people that deny what we have found out. That doesn't make them right. 99.99 % of what is knowable is unknown to mankind ! Offer some proof to support your BS c;aim.
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Post by Thankfully on Dec 13, 2018 3:30:52 GMT -5
99.99 % of what is knowable is unknown to mankind ! Offer some proof to support your BS c;aim. Does eternal past exist? You may disagree with the concept, albeit the concept of infinity exists, of which even Einstein would confess to knowing “next to nothing”. Ya, maybe my comment sounded like giving too much credit, ?? Could be less than I can analyze, IMO. Thanks for correcting my exaggeration!!
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Post by Thankfully on Dec 13, 2018 3:51:02 GMT -5
99.99 % of what is knowable is unknown to mankind ! Offer some proof to support your BS c;aim. So then, can you offer proof for the believability of mankind knowing at least .01 % of all that is knowable ? Once you understand how little we know that is knowable, “ be es “ is knowable Just because you think you know the answer, doesn’t mean you do know the answer I believe truth holds all the correct answers, and are knowable, but not knowable in the manner that truth holds to the true answer. Even things we think we. know, are often very poorly understood, just consider the enormity of the countless discussions on what truth is , IS TRUTH KNOWABLE? I think it is. but it is reserved for those that seek and seek and seek,......it is knowable, yet we most often don’t know, or don’t have the time to seek for the truth, IMO, IMO,........———>>
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Post by rational on Dec 13, 2018 10:41:04 GMT -5
Offer some proof to support your BS c;aim. So then, can you offer proof for the believability of mankind knowing at least .01 % of all that is knowable ? Once you understand how little we know that is knowable, “ be es “ is knowable Just because you think you know the answer, doesn’t mean you do know the answer I believe truth holds all the correct answers, and are knowable, but not knowable in the manner that truth holds to the true answer. Even things we think we. know, are often very poorly understood, just consider the enormity of the countless discussions on what truth is , IS TRUTH KNOWABLE? I think it is. but it is reserved for those that seek and seek and seek,......it is knowable, yet we most often don’t know, or don’t have the time to seek for the truth, IMO, IMO,........———>> I had hope of a discussion but I can see you are still supporting BS with BS and, having worked on a farm, I can attest that is not a good situation for anyone. Babble on.
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Post by Thankfully on Dec 13, 2018 11:42:06 GMT -5
So then, can you offer proof for the believability of mankind knowing at least .01 % of all that is knowable ? Once you understand how little we know that is knowable, “ be es “ is knowable Just because you think you know the answer, doesn’t mean you do know the answer I believe truth holds all the correct answers, and are knowable, but not knowable in the manner that truth holds to the true answer. Even things we think we. know, are often very poorly understood, just consider the enormity of the countless discussions on what truth is , IS TRUTH KNOWABLE? I think it is. but it is reserved for those that seek and seek and seek,......it is knowable, yet we most often don’t know, or don’t have the time to seek for the truth, IMO, IMO,........———>> I had hope of a discussion but I can see you are still supporting BS with BS and, having worked on a farm, I can attest that is not a good situation for anyone. Babble on. Well, your input does have its place , even if it can’t be defined as true knowledge, Imo. So Thank you for your kind reply.
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Post by quest on Dec 13, 2018 11:47:54 GMT -5
="1544659174"]Amazing features in the design of DNA youtu.be/37nCgkPiUro]Well articulated lecture , by Dr James Tour .[ ________________________. ________________ I am trying to get some bits of truth from Dr Tour’s research and lectures, and this certainly has plenty . IMO
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Post by quest on Dec 13, 2018 11:59:26 GMT -5
So then, can you offer proof for the believability of mankind knowing at least .01 % of all that is knowable ? Once you understand how little we know that is knowable, “ be es “ is knowable Just because you think you know the answer, doesn’t mean you do know the answer I believe truth holds all the correct answers, and are knowable, but not knowable in the manner that truth holds to the true answer. Even things we think we. know, are often very poorly understood, just consider the enormity of the countless discussions on what truth is , IS TRUTH KNOWABLE? I think it is. but it is reserved for those that seek and seek and seek,......it is knowable, yet we most often don’t know, or don’t have the time to seek for the truth, IMO, IMO,........———>> I had hope of a discussion but I can see you are still supporting BS with BS and, having worked on a farm, I can attest that is not a good situation for anyone. Babble on. You need to discern whether your perceived “knowledge “ is based on truth, as truths are the foundations for what we/our opinions stand on/for . (Under-standings ). That is my opinion, Thank you .
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Post by quest on Dec 13, 2018 12:03:04 GMT -5
Much too often our “human knowledge” is based on theories.and more theories... with no proof provided.
Sad to say .
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Post by quest on Dec 13, 2018 12:12:44 GMT -5
God(our Creator) does know everything there is to know. (Infinite)
Humans can receive/have an “image” of that knowledge , as we are made in Our Creators image. IMO
Much of human knowledge will soon pass away / as it is only temporal knowledge , and it isn’t eternal, IMO
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Post by quest on Dec 14, 2018 13:33:54 GMT -5
Isaiah 55:8-9
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, soothe the LORD
For as far as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
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Post by quest on Dec 14, 2018 13:39:07 GMT -5
Isaiah 55:8-9
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD
For as far as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.
sorry it should be “saith” not “soothe”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 14:11:11 GMT -5
Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD For as far as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. sorry it should be “saith” not “soothe” (Auto correct adjustments.....) thats one of rationals favorite quotes....expect a response
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Post by quest on Dec 15, 2018 0:56:09 GMT -5
Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD For as far as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. sorry it should be “saith” not “soothe” (Auto correct adjustments.....) thats one of rationals favorite quotes....expect a response Thanks for the consideration But without input we still move forward with analysis Of course the implications of mankind being/having access to a small portion of the thoughts that God has toward us certainly is a derivative, it also relates the source of all logical and true knowledge and what is required to have the correct perspective on such thoughts. In other words, Our human thoughts are very immature in the realm of the eternal thoughts T Y
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Post by quest on Dec 16, 2018 0:08:25 GMT -5
youtu.be/37nCgkPiUro]Well articulated lecture , by Dr James Tour .[ ________________________. ________________ I am trying to get some bits of truth from Dr Tour’s research and lectures, and this certainly has plenty . IMO His lectures should be required for any biology student, as he does a wonderful job of teaching how to analyse the lab tests , and get the correct analyses from each experiment. he asks for someone to explain the mechanism(s) that drive “evolution” , and no one can explain them. Its a given that they dont understand a theory that concludes that the mechanisms are haphazard events that have no self directives to point toward a goal . “Goal” is not part of the equation, and for that reason, it cannot be studied as a logical and reactionary processes. To claim that a brain that can only operate in a logical pardigm, its foolish to think that “haphazard” would be considered a major role in forming purely logical, organized, and purposed events and creations. And thankfully many people do understand the “co-incidenses” do not have any scientific pretentions. (Everything is ruled by its purpose for existing, Hey, but you already knew that! TY
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Post by rational on Dec 17, 2018 10:03:55 GMT -5
Isaiah 55:8-9 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD For as far as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. sorry it should be “saith” not “soothe” (Auto correct adjustments.....) thats one of rationals favorite quotes....expect a response I55 - the final argument when you are out of factual information.
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 17, 2018 13:03:45 GMT -5
His lectures should be required for any biology student, as he does a wonderful job of teaching how to analyse the lab tests , and get the correct analyses from each experiment. Here is something you don't mention about Dr James Tour The New York Times article described Tour as saying that the explanations offered by evolution are incomplete, and he found it hard to believe that nature can produce the machinery of cells through random processes.
Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations.
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Post by quest on Dec 17, 2018 15:26:35 GMT -5
thats one of rationals favorite quotes....expect a response I55 - the final argument when you are out of factual information. Aw, truth is truth , and that’s the truth. Ignorance doesn’t have a “goal”, nor do ignorant theories?? ?? JMT. Thanks for sharing your opinion , TY.
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Post by quest on Dec 17, 2018 15:45:07 GMT -5
His lectures should be required for any biology student, as he does a wonderful job of teaching how to analyse the lab tests , and get the correct analyses from each experiment. Here is something you don't mention about Dr James Tour The New York Times article described Tour as saying that the explanations offered by evolution are incomplete, and he found it hard to believe that nature can produce the machinery of cells through random processes.
Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations.
Yes, thanks for replying? , Dr Tour is open minded. — nevertheless saying and admitting to such does not mean that he understands “evolution “ . So thanks for understanding his opinion. It’s very interesting (if you listen to the linked lecture) He discusses the 1.5% Of coded DNA , and also discusses the 98 % that is also a vital part, and concludes that the 98% is where the distinctions and gives us all our individuality , for which ever cell growth we are interested in studying. All DNA ‘s are very highly individualized . Especially in the 98% region. Dr Tour presents a very good lecture about his “doubts “ of an evolutionary mechanism that would demonstrate “common ansestory” in biological analyses, but is welcoming anyone to explain any such mechanism to him It’s a very open minded discussion, as you would discover in his taped lectures, IMO
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Post by quest on Dec 17, 2018 15:59:14 GMT -5
I55 - the final argument when you are out of factual information. Aw, truth is truth , and that’s the truth. Ignorance doesn’t have a “goal”, nor do ignorant theories?? ?? JMT. Thanks for sharing your opinion , TY. Oh, and I am glad that our Creator knows the information and facts about DNA . So there are your facts that you are looking for the “Source of Life “ certainly isn’t ignorant about the goals for Creation, it’s up to us to find out for ourselves. If you assist a baby chick too much, they won’t learn to survive. Hmmm, nature teaches us many many things! (We are challenged to understand what the message is) or we too, will be ignorant and not able to survive?? ? Just my thoughts , IMO
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