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Post by Guest4 on Feb 21, 2016 8:31:03 GMT -5
I'm back!
Which google site,Guest4? The " Seed Germination in the Bible" site? This comes from an article written up in the Pacific Rural Press. vol. 45. 18 March 1893 ! Addressing an opinion of Dr Hudson , who postulated that the wheat seed did not die after germinating. Good seed implies it will germinate, bad seed does not germinate. If you read the entire article the last few paragraphs explains the process of the wheat seed dying Hope this helps! The author of this article is debunking Dr Hudsons opinion. And I agree with his analysis.
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2016 10:46:21 GMT -5
The caterpillar dies and becomes a butterfly Etc Ok it germinates , transformation , recreation, hmmm I like the thought that the seed must fall into the ground and die. I'm sticking to it! But a caterpillar isn't a seed. It's the butterfly that produces the seed -- according to animal nature. And the caterpillar doesn't die in the transformation into a winged organism.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 21, 2016 14:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 21, 2016 20:08:09 GMT -5
But a caterpillar isn't a seed. It's the butterfly that produces the seed -- according to animal nature. And the caterpillar doesn't die in the transformation into a winged organism. [ hey, do you think the caterpillar is onto something? wouldn't it be cool if humans could be so fortunate *hmmm* I guess that link was invalid on last post, sorry It has a video "Thyroid Issues and Adrenal Fatigue" by John Bergman . Very cool message. Hope anyone interested takes a few minutes to hear what he practices.
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Post by rational on Feb 22, 2016 10:25:07 GMT -5
I guess that link was invalid on last post, sorry It has a video "Thyroid Issues and Adrenal Fatigue" by John Bergman . Very cool message. Hope anyone interested takes a few minutes to hear what he practices. He practices the manual manipulation of the bones of the spine. If you are a believer you should take the time to have your spine manipulated.
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Post by Yes on Feb 22, 2016 23:56:13 GMT -5
It works..
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Post by rational on Feb 23, 2016 0:13:14 GMT -5
From the research it appears to have an efficacy better than prayer. The National Institute of Health concluded: CONCLUSIONS Where does all of this leave us when attempting a risk–benefit analysis? On one side we have uncertain benefits; on the other we must consider common nonserious adverse effects as well as serious complications that occur at an unknown rate. Given this situation, a tentative risk–benefit analysis cannot produce a positive result. The conclusion must therefore be that, according to the evidence to date, chiropractic spinal manipulation does not demonstrably do more good than harm. In view of the incompleteness of our current knowledge and the popularity of chiropractic, research into this complex area should be intensified.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 10:44:09 GMT -5
But a caterpillar isn't a seed. It's the butterfly that produces the seed -- according to animal nature. Perhaps the butterfly needs its own science? Interesting life cycle! I think there is some good Info available. The butterfly lays a caterpillar egg when it is hatching the little bug eats its own egg? It has a voracious appetite! [br Interesting creature. It has a caterpillar nature , and after transformation it has a butterfly nature. When the butterfly lays an egg, they remember their caterpillar nature , and lay the egg where there is no caterpillars, for the protection of their offspring! Caterpillar nature teaches them to eat caterpillar eggs.
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Post by rational on Feb 25, 2016 10:57:26 GMT -5
When the butterfly lays an egg, they remember their caterpillar nature , and lay the egg where there is no caterpillars, for the protection of their offspring! Caterpillar nature teaches them to eat caterpillar eggs. Not quite. The straight line connecting the crooked lines is where the eggs were laid. Certainly not where there were no eggs. And the trails leading away are where the larva (caterpillar) ate as they developed. No sign that they were taught by nature to eat the caterpillar eggs. You would really benefit from a good biology refresher course!
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 12:04:26 GMT -5
When the butterfly lays an egg, they remember their caterpillar nature , and lay the egg where there is no caterpillars, for the protection of their offspring! Caterpillar nature teaches them to eat caterpillar eggs. Not quite. The straight line connecting the crooked lines is where the eggs were laid. Certainly not where there were no eggs. And the trails leading away are where the larva (caterpillar) ate as they developed. No sign that they were taught by nature to eat the caterpillar eggs. You would really benefit from a good biology refresher course! Dr Lincoln Brower gave me a refresher course! Perhaps you might enjoy reading and watching real caterpillars eating caterpillar eggs .
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Post by rational on Feb 25, 2016 15:21:22 GMT -5
Dr Lincoln Brower gave me a refresher course! As long as he gave it to you. Otherwise you are entitled to a refund. First, the caterpillars do not lay eggs so I will assume you mean butterfly/moth eggs. Second, the eggs are not laid away from other eggs for the protection of the eggs. As a biology teacher I have watched many larva go their transformation.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 17:11:44 GMT -5
"Monarch butterfly eggs, A Conversation with Lincoln Brower"
A monarch caterpillar will eat its egg and other caterpillar eggs . It likely if other eggs are present the monarch butterfly considers them as a food source.
A Monarch butterfly does not lay more than One egg on a milk thistle weed, the caterpillars have enormous appetites for their size.
I enjoyed reading and watching the baby "caterpillars" eating their shell and other cat eggs besides, this is there nature. Lincoln Brower is considered the most knowledgable scientist of butterflies in the World . If you do not believe it.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 21:51:45 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 26, 2016 3:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by Yes on Feb 26, 2016 8:56:05 GMT -5
That's what this thread is looking for: searching for Creator(God) and then you reply (as always) :".........."
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Post by rational on Feb 26, 2016 10:01:39 GMT -5
That's what this thread is looking for: searching for Creator(God) and then you reply (as always) :".........." :) The problem isn't that he is a creationist but that he is setting up the same old straw men from a theory of evolution that is only believed/taught by creationists and on creationist sites.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 26, 2016 11:01:57 GMT -5
That's what this thread is looking for: searching for Creator(God) and then you reply (as always) :".........." The problem isn't that he is a creationist but that he is setting up the same old straw men from a theory of evolution that is only believed/taught by creationists and on creationist sites. this video agreed with Lincoln Brower s research.(and secular video)
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Post by rational on Feb 26, 2016 16:22:54 GMT -5
The problem isn't that he is a creationist but that he is setting up the same old straw men from a theory of evolution that is only believed/taught by creationists and on creationist sites. this video agreed with Lincoln Brower s research.(and secular video) I do not know to which video you are referring but no one who understands the theory of evolution would agree with the mixed up evolutionary process that Brower presented.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 26, 2016 21:05:55 GMT -5
Which video are you referring to? Do you disagree with his status as the foremost scientist in study of butterflys? Dr Lincoln Brower
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Post by rational on Feb 26, 2016 22:00:28 GMT -5
Which video are you referring to? You posted: this video agreed with Lincoln Brower s research.(and secular video) I don't know to which video 'this' refers. Not if you include the qualifier 'monarch' in your statement.
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Post by Amazing butterfly on Mar 4, 2016 5:41:35 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2016 8:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by Gues4 on Mar 4, 2016 15:44:04 GMT -5
The migratory round trip takes a total of 4 generations to complete. The return north ends with the 4 th generation living about 6 times as long (called the methuselah monarch)
Lincoln Brower banded monarchs in Kansas , and transported them to Virginia . When released in Virginia, the Monarchs quickly discovered that they needed to adjust there migration plans and headed southwesterly and completed there journey to south central Mexico where they lived on for 5 months until they began there journey north again
If you watched any of the 50 minute video (by Nova) it explains how they use there antennas as a compass. They still don't seem to know how the monarch developed this ability. I read your article, thanks.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 4, 2016 22:39:29 GMT -5
That's what this thread is looking for: searching for Creator(God) and then you reply (as always) :".........." A creationist " Not a "scientist"
A creationist is just another biblical apologist trying to fob off themselves as a "scientist" because they know that term means credibility with most people and the creationist wants people to think that they actually use the scientific method to come to conclusions when of course they do not.
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Post by Hmmmm on Mar 5, 2016 1:21:33 GMT -5
That's what this thread is looking for: searching for Creator(God) and then you reply (as always) :".........." A creationist " Not a "scientist"
A creationist is just another biblical apologist trying to fob off themselves as a "scientist" because they know that term means credibility with most people and the creationist wants people to think that they actually use the scientific method to come to conclusions when of course they do not.[ Can you give me the name of a creationist that lies about his educational achievements? I have not read any that claim to be a scientist when they weren't. Names please?
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Post by joanna on Mar 5, 2016 1:56:46 GMT -5
Dubious Disciple (xdc) wrote "some great examples of feeling the touch of God in the first thread". What are these examples please? Hypothetical: I am genuinely wanting to find God and to also feel his touch. Touch is a real sensation resulting from two entities contacting each other. To assist me in my search for God I need proof of God's touch. Can this be provided please? Science has many techniques which can now be used to provide this proof. Touch DNA could be one (based on the biblical claim that (hu)man(s) were made in god's image); scientific evidence of a miracle (something that only a believer could experience or do that a non believer could not); something miraculous in a person's character or life that can only be evidenced in a believer's life.
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Post by joanna on Mar 5, 2016 2:12:21 GMT -5
"What kind of off day was he having when he threw you together?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 5, 2016 4:49:02 GMT -5
A creationist " Not a "scientist"
A creationist is just another biblical apologist trying to fob off themselves as a "scientist" because they know that term means credibility with most people and the creationist wants people to think that they actually use the scientific method to come to conclusions when of course they do not. Can you give me the name of a creationist that lies about his educational achievements? I have not read any that claim to be a scientist when they weren't. Names please? Carl Baugh for one. "The specific science degrees claimed by Baugh (or attributed to him) have varied somewhat from account to account In recent years Baugh has claimed a "Masters Degree in Archaeology from Pacific College" and a "Doctor of Philosophy Degree in Anthropology from College of Advanced Education."
Baugh gave the location of the College of Advanced Education (CAE) as Irving, Texas; however, the Chamber of Commerce, and Department of Taxation, and phone directory in Irving have no record of the school.[16 When pressed by an assistant for the address of CAE, Baugh gave it as "2355 West Pioneer, Irving, TX, 75061" and indicated that its dean was Dr. Don Davis.[17]. The address appears on a small house in Irving, located next to Sherwood Baptist Church, whose pastor is Rev. Don Davis. Davis indicated that CAE is a "missions" school, with no science classes or facilities.[18]
The school is not accredited by any national or regional agency, nor certified by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (which must be obtained to legally grant degrees in Texas). In fact, none of the educational organizations that I contacted had ever heard of the school. " source: Glen J. Kuban
There are many more.
Kent Hovind is another. Calls himself "Dr. Dino" His "science degree" came from another "small house" without any science department that sent diplomas through the mail. (I actually know Hovind. His mother was kindergarten teacher for my daughter.)
I'll keep looking. Some have legitimate degrees but one is in engineering, - no degrees in biological science.
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