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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 11, 2018 21:18:52 GMT -5
So, we can realize that the creation was extra special
it took a lot of planning, and the titles that belong to our Creator are infinite, endless, but to summarize using common man made concepts, : Scientist, engineer, Doctor, councilor, Leader , planner, builder, artist, musician , savior, Astronomer, chemist, mechanic, Potter, Father, mathematician, ..........., .......... and the list goes on and on
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 12, 2018 4:38:40 GMT -5
So, we can realize that the creation was extra special it took a lot of planning, and the titles that belong to our Creator are infinite, endless, but to summarize using common man made concepts, : Scientist, engineer, Doctor, councilor, Leader , planner, builder, artist, musician , savior, Astronomer, chemist, mechanic, Potter, Father, mathematician, ..........., .......... and the list goes on and on So with thanksgiving, we can see the great Creator created humans, for a great mutual benevolence that He shares with us, the education mechanisms that help us to make our development and growth to be shared, and A tiny portion of His Creativeness and engineering can be seen and understood to the degree our human DNA will direct us, .truly Benevolence manifested for us to appreciate for ever and ever, amen.
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 12, 2018 5:28:26 GMT -5
Being for me , I have always called the Bible, the Bible. It is easy to understand why many people refer to it as the Good Book. It is.
it has an extraordinary range of rewarding faithful seekers of God and His will: Noah. Abraham, Isaac, Israel, Joseph and families, Samson. ,Gideon, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Saul, David, Solomon, Ruth, Boaz. Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Elijah, Elisha, and that is just the beginning of a very long list ..... not to leave off any of the many others that will be included in this roll of faithful followers.,,
..it is just a beginning.
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 13, 2018 4:28:17 GMT -5
So, we can realize that the creation was extra special it took a lot of planning, and the titles that belong to our Creator are infinite, endless, but to summarize using common man made concepts, : Scientist, engineer, Doctor, councilor, Leader , planner, builder, artist, musician , savior, Astronomer, chemist, mechanic, Potter, Father, mathematician, ..........., .......... and the list goes on and on And as David quotes, He is his/our Shepherd . Another interesting perspective of the many titles God is master of, He leads us to search these out, and master as best we can, Because our Creator has certainly made “humans” in His image! Image that! (Of all wonderful fulfillments !!!). And that was writ years before these professions were even “created”. Truly a wonderful testimony of the wonderful way we were created! 🙂
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 15, 2018 2:01:17 GMT -5
Briefly, we know God , by which we briefly know the mechanics by which we came into being /. That being we exist in the image of whom created us as a living entity(soul). And yes, we are in that mold because we can reason, and reason together,
Without this ability to reason and analyze, we have no reason to exist.
Essential to creation is the cause, and essential to cause is the reason for it being so.
Hmmmm . Jmt in my searching
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Post by SearchinforGod on Aug 15, 2018 2:14:27 GMT -5
Causes and reasons are so foundational to human existence, that we rightly “reason” that we need and experience many of these foundational concepts as Laws, and rightly they are, and require a Law-giver. Thankfully.
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 16, 2018 3:04:30 GMT -5
So, we can realize that the creation was extra special it took a lot of planning, and the titles that belong to our Creator are infinite, endless, but to summarize using common man made concepts, : Scientist, engineer, Doctor, councilor, Leader , planner, builder, artist, musician , savior, Astronomer, chemist, mechanic, Potter, Father, mathematician, ..........., .......... and the list goes on and on And as David quotes, He is his/our Shepherd . Another interesting perspective of the many titles God is master of, He leads us to search these out, and master as best we can, Because our Creator has certainly made “humans” in His image! Image that! (Of all wonderful fulfillments !!!). And that was writ years before these professions were even “created”. Truly a wonderful testimony of the wonderful way we were created! 🙂
So , yes, I love the thought expressed in Genisis, far before humans knew the vast complexities that the universe holds out. It is shear genius and perceptive depth that it was believed sufficiently to be written in such a benevolent manner that the human creation was fashioned/made in the image of the Creator that created US!
Nothing else was thusly created, this insight is evidence abundance that the Bible was inspired to be written by the Real Creator of the universe. Not an accident that humans have achieved the levels of education that enable us to appreciate the profound level of infinite knowledge and wisdom that is demonstrated for us to observe and to a growing portion ? we have come to understand that the world was formed by this loving and merciful God.... thank you
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 16, 2018 19:09:42 GMT -5
With an assist from Dr James Tour! youtu.be/Swz8rIcCu_Mthe God of the Bible was a master scientist ! it couldn’t be an accident , or there would be Other accidents that didn’t line up with truth, but we know all it takes is one accident to mess up a mess of haphazard events.. Enjoy
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Post by Humpty. Hmmmmm on Aug 17, 2018 12:14:08 GMT -5
With an assist from Dr James Tour! youtu.be/Swz8rIcCu_Mthe God of the Bible was a master scientist ! it couldn’t be an accident , or there would be Other accidents that didn’t line up with truth, but we know all it takes is one accident to mess up a mess of haphazard events.. Enjoy Seriously? Yes , seriously. a very serious analogy, using a political alagorical
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 17, 2018 12:41:11 GMT -5
in other words , simple problems can be fixed by human methods, but once the complexity involves putting life together, whether from an embryonic state or a state of reconstruction, human minds cannot Comprehend the extreme genius involved in this Creation. Only God can help us.
For sure.
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 13:01:54 GMT -5
With an assist from Dr James Tour! youtu.be/Swz8rIcCu_Mthe God of the Bible was a master scientist ! it couldn’t be an accident , or there would be Other accidents that didn’t line up with truth, but we know all it takes is one accident to mess up a mess of haphazard events.. Enjoy and it is with sincere humility, that i thank God that He saw fit to create the building materials of life, and the exact nurturing zone for everything to mature as was planned to so do,, and just as an artwork gives glory to its author, so His creation cannot contain glory, but gives glory to Him who gave us time to take time to do so, and more than we can possibly know, we can thank Him for all things that make our existence an extremely valuable Event. Yes, extremely valuable and priceless thankfully
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 15:26:04 GMT -5
really, can there be any doubt that God has infinite knowledge about every branch of the sciences that He created....
It must make Him roll in humor to hear humans glorifying theirselves in the utter ignorance of the truth.
yes. we are all partly or mostly ignorant of Gods truths, and how He works in ways that are far above our capacity to understand... we are but small children , gazing upon a masterpiece of infinite value. Thankfully..
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 18, 2018 16:34:09 GMT -5
With an assist from Dr James Tour! youtu.be/Swz8rIcCu_Mthe God of the Bible was a master scientist ! it couldn’t be an accident , or there would be Other accidents that didn’t line up with truth, but we know all it takes is one accident to mess up a mess of haphazard events.. Enjoy Here is more information about Dr James Tour.
A Scientific Dissent From DarwinismIn February 2006, the New York Times reported[37] that Tour was one of a small number of nationally prominent researchers among five hundred scientists and engineers whose names appear on Discovery Institute's controversial petition, "A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism", which states "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life." "Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."[45] The two-sentence statement has been widely used by its sponsor, the Discovery Institute, and some of their supporters in a national campaign to discredit evolution and to promote intelligent design.
Doubts Over Evolution Mount With Over 900 Scientists Expressing Skepticism With Central Tenet of Darwin's Theory]</ref>[46][47] The New York Times article described Tour as saying that the explanations offered by evolution are incomplete, and he found it hard to believe that nature can produce the machinery of cells through random processes. (Please note this about what Dr James Tour himself states) Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations. from wiki (emphasis: mine
We are aware that the Discovery Institute with it's ideas of " intelligent design" has not been unable to win a following among most all scientists and has lost court cases when they have attempted to insert "intelligent design" into public school curriculum . The Dover case was one.
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 16:37:00 GMT -5
be it foolish to suggest that God and science cannot Coexist, when God created all each and every iota of the sciences and their necessary laws ( no need for “Theories” 😉 )
could a model T Ford also exist along side it’s creator? , Mr. Henry Ford.
i should believe the point made can easily be understood, yes?
Thank you
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 16:51:19 GMT -5
Aw, yes, the integrity of Dr James Tour? Let him speak for himself : youtu.be/YdWHQrCXkNY(Ps: he is a wonderful teacher). Thank you for replying! 🙂
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 18, 2018 16:58:32 GMT -5
be it foolish to suggest that God and science cannot Coexist, when God created all each and every iota of the sciences and their necessary laws ( no need for “Theories” 😉 ) could a model T Ford also exist along side it’s creator? , Mr. Henry Ford. i should believe the point made can easily be understood, yes? Thank you The subject wasn't about "God and science" coexisting. It was about the difference between "intelligent design", -an idea promulgated by Discovery Institute and the "evolution of biological life."
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 17:08:18 GMT -5
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 17:08:47 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 18, 2018 17:24:08 GMT -5
Aw, yes, the integrity of Dr James Tour? Let him speak for himself : youtu.be/YdWHQrCXkNY(Ps: he is a wonderful teacher). Thank you for replying! 🙂 He DID " speak for himself!
How did you miss that?
I will repeat it for you.
(Please note this about what Dr James Tour himself states) Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations.
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 18, 2018 19:36:45 GMT -5
He DID " speak for himself!
How did you miss that?
I will repeat it for you.
(Please note this about what Dr James Tour himself states) Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations.
Hmmm, true and if we all receive a complete explanation, then when that time comes , perhaps pigs will be flying ? One can be open minded for only so long , and our brains cells begin to decompose? Dr. Tour really tries to be “open-minded” , in order to Encourage the same inquiry in his students. His most recent lectures reveal that , currently (2018) he sees no possible mechanism for creation of the first living cell. And through his own lab work, contends that “long time” is the enemy of abiogenisis . Nevertheless God and Science fair quite well for me also. Thanks
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 18, 2018 20:17:43 GMT -5
He DID " speak for himself!
How did you miss that?
I will repeat it for you.
(Please note this about what Dr James Tour himself states) Despite this, he said he remained open-minded about evolution.
He was quoted as saying "I respect that work" and being open to the possibility that future research will complete the explanations.
Hmmm, true and if we all receive a complete explanation, then when that time comes , perhaps pigs will be flying ? One can be open minded for only so long , and our brains cells begin to decompose? Dr. Tour really tries to be “open-minded” , in order to Encourage the same inquiry in his students.His most recent lectures reveal that , currently (2018)he sees no possible mechanism for creation of the first living cell. And through his own lab work, contends that “long time” is the enemy of abiogenisis . Nevertheless God and Science fair quite well for me also. Thanks Just how is it that you KNOW that the reason "Dr. Tour really tries to be “open-minded”,is in order to encourage the same inquiry in his students?
Is that what he said or are you just guessing?
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Post by SearchingforGof on Aug 19, 2018 4:15:20 GMT -5
weallsearch in our own way? Thank you nevertheless.
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 19, 2018 4:19:43 GMT -5
weallsearch in our own way? Thank you nevertheless. [ yes, thanks.
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Post by searchforGod on Aug 19, 2018 4:42:04 GMT -5
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 19, 2018 9:22:40 GMT -5
in the midst of a sincere search, one must accept the truth we find in this endeavor (unless we become “Closed minded” at some point...)
To be open minded, we open up to the sense that if we find we have been thinking in error, we can have a change of heart, (repent, as may be the case)
either about secular thoughts, or emotional/spiritual thoughts
like many/all soon find out, we all make mistakes and errors in thoughts and actions, and as for me, the privilege of repentance is found in an open mind/inquiry
Always. ( Justmythoughts ) Thank you.
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 19, 2018 17:42:07 GMT -5
weallsearch in our own way? Thank you nevertheless. that didn't answer the question, -so I believe you were just "guessing" in order to make yourself feel better.
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Post by SearchingforGod on Aug 20, 2018 1:29:14 GMT -5
Aw, but everyone knows we don’t learn when we aren’t open to learning, nevertheless, please expound !
Thank you!
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Post by SearchforGod on Aug 20, 2018 1:39:44 GMT -5
to borrow a thought shared by Dr Tour, please explain to me evolutions mechanisms, i do not understand them,
there is the challenge. He will buy you dinner , if you accept his open minded invitation!
😉
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