bulsi
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WHAT WE DO IN LIFE ECHOES IN ETERNITY !
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Post by bulsi on Sept 21, 2015 0:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2015 5:19:38 GMT -5
The JW's have a strict shunning practice as well. Come to think of it, where I live they workers tried the same thing -- and guess what happened to me for not obeying it?
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Post by howitis on Sept 21, 2015 5:57:07 GMT -5
Catholics are not much better, I have been told our children are 'mine', by my mother in law, because my husband and I were not married in a Catholic church, apparently our children only belong to me!!!! That's taking the virgin Mary thing a bit far in my opinion!!!
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Post by bluejay on Sept 26, 2015 23:28:09 GMT -5
Yes, the friends and workers fellowship are not the only ones who use shunning. Seems to be prevalent in groups with exclusive beliefs.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 27, 2015 0:44:54 GMT -5
Shunning is no doubt used in "exclusive beliefs" because it is a good way of scaring other would-be defectors from leaving. Just another means of using control over a group. Religions are great at doing that! No doubt it is really a way of keeping those of an "exclusive belief" drinking the Kool-Aid, the belief that they are the only the right way!
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 27, 2015 2:23:47 GMT -5
Shunning is no doubt used in "exclusive beliefs" because it is a good way of scaring other would-be defectors from leaving. Just another means of using control over a group. Religions are great at doing that! No doubt it is really a way of keeping those of an "exclusive belief" drinking the Kool-Aid, the belief that they are the only the right way! Shunning is really a BULLY TACTIC.
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Post by iam on Feb 15, 2020 23:38:59 GMT -5
Shunning is no doubt used in "exclusive beliefs" because it is a good way of scaring other would-be defectors from leaving. Just another means of using control over a group. Religions are great at doing that! No doubt it is really a way of keeping those of an "exclusive belief" drinking the Kool-Aid, the belief that they are the only the right way! Shunning is really a BULLY TACTIC. It is. And I have both been shunned and have shunned others. A little leaven leavens the whole lump and there's no one in church authority brave or wise enough to correct these matters. Besides, the large groups of people in the church that don't want to be corrected would cause such a stink that the worker would be thrown out. The influence of the Pharisees in the church is overpowering. And the chief priests and the elders and the hypocrites were all behind them. And so regardless of how wicked the doings or lack of mercy are in the truth,still FEW of them are saved. That's what Jesus taught.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 17, 2020 7:54:11 GMT -5
Shunning divides family and friendships . It’s a punishment tool (abuse) . Please tell me where in the bible Jesus shunned humans . He was a human being being a human . Many religions shun . It’s like wearing scarlet lettering . You are no longer welcome by many , but those who have retained human qualities and love , don’t shun . It’s not your call or the worker’s . I believe that is quoted in the bible . Again be aware that the last words spoken when shunned may result in the soul taking their life .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 17, 2020 7:55:52 GMT -5
Once a word leaves your lips , you cannot take it back . It is forever there .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 8:59:33 GMT -5
Shunning divides family and friendships . It’s a punishment tool (abuse) . Please tell me where in the bible Jesus shunned humans . He was a human being being a human . Many religions shun . It’s like wearing scarlet lettering . You are no longer welcome by many , but those who have retained human qualities and love , don’t shun . It’s not your call or the worker’s . I believe that is quoted in the bible . Again be aware that the last words spoken when shunned may result in the soul taking their life . i was shunned for awhile for somethings i did..i deserved it... there are always these verses... Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Feb 17, 2020 9:36:15 GMT -5
Stop leaning on bible verses ! It’s just a book . We need to retain human like qualities and feelings . Who gives the order to shun & why do people follow it ? Where did the decision makers get their info ? No one deserves to be shunned . I believe it states otherwise or maybe I have the wrong bible . I use common sense , I use my mind . Are we all created equally ? No we are not .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 15:58:31 GMT -5
Stop leaning on bible verses ! It’s just a book . We need to retain human like qualities and feelings . Who gives the order to shun & why do people follow it ? Where did the decision makers get their info ? No one deserves to be shunned . I believe it states otherwise or maybe I have the wrong bible . I use common sense , I use my mind . Are we all created equally ? No we are not . the bible is the foundation for all things christian/jewish i can no more stop relying on that then you can for drinking water...for me it was the overseer that told me i was to be shunned...i have no idea if he consulted other workers or not... the only verses i know of are the ones i posted which are pretty clear. i don't know of any in the bible thats says DON'T shun...
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Post by snow on Feb 17, 2020 16:33:36 GMT -5
Stop leaning on bible verses ! It’s just a book . We need to retain human like qualities and feelings . Who gives the order to shun & why do people follow it ? Where did the decision makers get their info ? No one deserves to be shunned . I believe it states otherwise or maybe I have the wrong bible . I use common sense , I use my mind . Are we all created equally ? No we are not . the bible is the foundation for all things christian/jewish i can no more stop relying on that then you can for drinking water...for me it was the overseer that told me i was to be shunned...i have no idea if he consulted other workers or not... the only verses i know of are the ones i posted which are pretty clear. i don't know of any in the bible thats says DON'T shun... Which is why I question how anyone can call it a 'good book'. I feel so bad for you every time you state you deserved to be shunned. It shows me just how much you believe things that attack your self esteem and it's based on a book that says so many things that are not healthy for self esteem. As chinesewhispers says, no one deserves to be shunned. I wish you could believe in yourself more.
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