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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 16:28:41 GMT -5
Some of them defend the system way too much. Often they defend the mechanics of the fellowship more than they defend their Master and HIS WAY IN HEAVEN ABOVE!!I see it on TMB. I began to hear it in conventions, meetings and read it in E Mails sent from the workers in other countries. Which is more important-defending JESUS or defending a particular belief system and its methods, practices and beliefs? I was taught that TRUTH didn't need to be defended. I was taught to welcome persecution from blind people. I am also thankful for those in "truth" who put their Creator and Savior first and the system down below HIM!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 16:39:02 GMT -5
that's in every church walker its a natural human reaction to defend something someone is involved in even when on the wrong side...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 16:50:08 GMT -5
Some of them defend the system way too much. Often they defend the mechanics of the fellowship more than they defend their Master and HIS WAY IN HEAVEN ABOVE!!I see it on TMB. I began to hear it in conventions, meetings and read it in E Mails sent from the workers in other countries. Which is more important-defending JESUS or defending a particular belief system and its methods, practices and beliefs? I was taught that TRUTH didn't need to be defended. I was taught to welcome persecution from blind people. I am also thankful for those in "truth" who put their Creator and Savior first and the system down below HIM!!! what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 19:09:11 GMT -5
Virgo explain the 1700-1800 years between the end of the New Testament and the beginning of the Truth in old Eire cira 1897-1901?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 30, 2015 19:31:03 GMT -5
Some of them defend the system way too much. Often they defend the mechanics of the fellowship more than they defend their Master and HIS WAY IN HEAVEN ABOVE!!I see it on TMB. I began to hear it in conventions, meetings and read it in E Mails sent from the workers in other countries. Which is more important-defending JESUS or defending a particular belief system and its methods, practices and beliefs? I was taught that TRUTH didn't need to be defended. I was taught to welcome persecution from blind people. I am also thankful for those in "truth" who put their Creator and Savior first and the system down below HIM!!! what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following? Prove it Virgo !
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Post by blacksheep on Jul 30, 2015 21:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 1:14:12 GMT -5
what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following? Prove it Virgo ! yea prove it, yea go on and prove it if you didn't notice it was a question which neither you or gossiper answered so you go on and prove that it is not
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 1:15:50 GMT -5
Virgo explain the 1700-1800 years between the end of the New Testament and the beginning of the Truth in old Eire cira 1897-1901? i'm not going to explain anything, you take or leave frankly i don't care
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Post by blacksheep on Jul 31, 2015 2:18:02 GMT -5
Virgo explain the 1700-1800 years between the end of the New Testament and the beginning of the Truth in old Eire cira 1897-1901? i'm not going to explain anything, you take or leave frankly i don't care
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 2:27:27 GMT -5
i'm not going to explain anything, you take or leave frankly i don't care A hissy fit on a Friday No wonder the dog's bowl has no bottom in it... how's that a hissy fit? and how do you get the dogs bowl has no bottom in it?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 4:26:22 GMT -5
Some of them defend the system way too much. Often they defend the mechanics of the fellowship more than they defend their Master and HIS WAY IN HEAVEN ABOVE!!I see it on TMB. I began to hear it in conventions, meetings and read it in E Mails sent from the workers in other countries. Which is more important-defending JESUS or defending a particular belief system and its methods, practices and beliefs? I was taught that TRUTH didn't need to be defended. I was taught to welcome persecution from blind people. I am also thankful for those in "truth" who put their Creator and Savior first and the system down below HIM!!! what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following? Virgo you were the one that said "what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following?" So to say that you must think that the F&W system was started by Jesus, so I don't see why you find it hard to prove ! That's right I forgot, there is no record from Christ to the early workers is there.... so that kind of blows that theory ! But wait what about the "Stump Theory"!
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Post by Mary on Jul 31, 2015 4:35:25 GMT -5
Created by the one they're following? I thought he was talking about William Irvine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 5:10:14 GMT -5
Quote - Some of them defend the system way too much. Often they defend the mechanics of the fellowship more than they defend their Master and HIS WAY IN HEAVEN ABOVE!! This is WALKER TALK (ie hypocrite language) for "Some (ie Walker) attack the system way too much (ie reading 1200 Irvine letters, flying to Ireland etc..)Quote - I see it on TMB. I began to hear it in conventions, meetings and read it in E Mails sent from the workers in other countries. Thinks Walker, "I need feedback on my attacks."Quote - Which is more important-defending JESUS Walker doesn't attend any church.Quote - I was taught that TRUTH didn't need to be defended. WALKER TALK for "The great majority of the friends ignore me."Quote - I was taught to welcome persecution from blind people. I am also thankful for those in "truth" who put their Creator and Savior first and the system down below HIM!!! Note - "THEIR Creator and Savior" - not Walker's.
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Post by blacksheep on Jul 31, 2015 9:52:03 GMT -5
GOOD ONE, BERT!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 10:42:44 GMT -5
I admire those in "truth" who see beyond and above their meeting system. I just wish there were more of them in places of responsibility in the Kingdom.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:04:01 GMT -5
what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following? Virgo you were the one that said "what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following?" So to say that you must think that the F&W system was started by Jesus, so I don't see why you find it hard to prove ! That's right I forgot, there is no record from Christ to the early workers is there.... so that kind of blows that theory ! But wait what about the "Stump Theory"! please please take you blinkers off and answer just to what i posted instead of reading your mind into what i posted, if you can't don't bother
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:04:36 GMT -5
Created by the one they're following? I thought he was talking about William Irvine. yea but you would
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:07:08 GMT -5
I admire those in "truth" who see beyond and above their meeting system. I just wish there were more of them in places of responsibility in the Kingdom. why didn't you answer my question to you?
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:08:03 GMT -5
Virgo, you said "what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following?" So what exactly did you mean?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 23:30:00 GMT -5
Virgo, you said "what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following?" So what exactly did you mean? it was a question and you know the answer
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Post by Roselyn T on Jul 31, 2015 23:38:19 GMT -5
Sorry Virgo, until someone proves the "system one is defending" was created by the one who we are following, how can anyone answer ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 1:28:39 GMT -5
Sorry Virgo, until someone proves the "system one is defending" was created by the one who we are following, how can anyone answer ? the question started with two words, [what happens]what happens if the system one is defending was created/started by the one who we are following? the answer to what happens is what i want, it's a simple answer really. answer] it would then be true and correct to the one we are following now if it was not started by the one who we are following then it would not be true and correct to the one we are following if it were not true and correct to the one we are following we would not have the spirit of Christ within, and our worship would be in vain
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 7:02:35 GMT -5
Virgo you are defending the early Irish system we have come to know as "truth". Maybe it imitates certain aspects of the NT church. Seems like you and others defend a METHOD or SYSTEM more than the Father/Son/Holy Spirit.
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Post by blacksheep on Aug 1, 2015 8:54:26 GMT -5
There are those who believe that "you shall know them by their method"....... And then there are others who believe that the fruit produced is more important.... Hmmmmm......................?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 17:43:51 GMT -5
Virgo you are defending the early Irish system we have come to know as "truth". Maybe it imitates certain aspects of the NT church. Seems like you and others defend a METHOD or SYSTEM more than the Father/Son/Holy Spirit. how is that so when i have mentioned the one we are following and Him alone?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 17:45:11 GMT -5
There are those who believe that "you shall know them by their method"....... And then there are others who believe that the fruit produced is more important.... Hmmmmm......................? when fruit is produced on a tree, how is it produced?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 0:02:28 GMT -5
Where many stumble
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 1:43:29 GMT -5
Where many stumble my word there seems to be a method in the madness
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