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Post by maryhig on Jul 10, 2015 12:42:10 GMT -5
I bet you anything it's a higher percentage of husbands cheating on their wives! Most women I know are loyal to their husbands. Where I live, it's mainly the men that cheat. And definitely in a much higher percentage than the women. One I know recently, had just had his third baby. And his wife found out he had been cheating right through her pregnancy and that it wasn't the first time. She's absolutely devastated. He's been gone a few months now, has just abandoned the children, never bothers to see them and they keep asking for him! What on earth is this world coming to? It's unbelievable! So you would bet anything? A survey of 3000 people found that women are more likely to cheat than men.Coffee & CompanyShere Hite in 1991 found that 70 percent of married women cheated. In 1993 a follow-up study found that 72 percent of married men cheated. From the available research there is not a lot of difference. Be careful what you bet. Had you bet your fidelity you might be changing the statistics! That 2% in the Hite report is also a 2 year difference in time and within the range of statistical error! Wow, they're quite even really aren't? It's doesn't seem like that here around though where I live. There seems to be many more men than women cheating. So yes it's lucky I didn't Bet. But I don't bet anyway. I think I should write things differently sometimes Thanks for looking that up and letting me know
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Post by maryhig on Jul 10, 2015 12:43:08 GMT -5
So you would bet anything? A survey of 3000 people found that women are more likely to cheat than men.Coffee & CompanyShere Hite in 1991 found that 70 percent of married women cheated. In 1993 a follow-up study found that 72 percent of married men cheated. From the available research there is not a lot of difference. Be careful what you bet. Had you bet your fidelity you might be changing the statistics! That 2% in the Hite report is also a 2 year difference in time and within the range of statistical error! Wow! I didn'T realize the rates were so high. How did they define cheating? Nor did I!
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Post by rational on Jul 10, 2015 15:23:16 GMT -5
So you would bet anything? A survey of 3000 people found that women are more likely to cheat than men.Coffee & CompanyShere Hite in 1991 found that 70 percent of married women cheated. In 1993 a follow-up study found that 72 percent of married men cheated. From the available research there is not a lot of difference. Be careful what you bet. Had you bet your fidelity you might be changing the statistics! That 2% in the Hite report is also a 2 year difference in time and within the range of statistical error! Wow! I didn'T realize the rates were so high. How did they define cheating? Usually it involves putting your parts together with parts that they do not belong with! The Hite report was before the internet so it was physical contact. These days, intimacy is being looked at as well as physical contact. What do you consider worse - a man having an intimate relationship with a woman that does not involve physical contact or a one night stand involving coitus? What is worse - Sharing hopes and dreams with another person or sharing body parts? From an intimacy stand point which is more intimate - passionate osculation or coitus? I am sure when self reporting there is a wide range of respondes. "I wouldn't call it cheating - he didn't even take off his socks." "I wouldn't call it cheating - she didn't even let me kiss her." "I wouldn't call it cheating - it was so dark I couldn't see him." "I wouldn't call it cheating - not after her escapades with Frank." And for a tie-in with the OP - "I wouldn't call it cheating - she didn't even put out her cigarette."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 15:58:54 GMT -5
People in the Truth can learn how to hide their vices and appear so godly in front of their meeting peers. As in any religion, of course.
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Post by Mary on Jul 10, 2015 16:05:23 GMT -5
And non religious also of course. Anyone can.
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Post by emy on Jul 10, 2015 16:44:47 GMT -5
People in the Truth can learn how to hide their vices and appear so godly in front of their meeting peers. As in any religion, of course. So true. But no one hides from God!
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Post by rational on Jul 10, 2015 17:47:03 GMT -5
People in the Truth can learn how to hide their vices and appear so godly in front of their meeting peers. As in any religion, of course. So true. But no one hides from God! Why not? Adam and Eve did.
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Post by emy on Jul 10, 2015 17:58:37 GMT -5
So true. But no one hides from God! Why not? Adam and Eve did. Only unsuccessfully.
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Post by snow on Jul 10, 2015 19:39:47 GMT -5
In today's Australian, "Keeping up with the boys" shows a girl face down on the floor, bottle in hand. Epidemic of teenage drinking - with the boys 20% up on drink, and the girls up 50% in a few years.
Why do girls want to be like boys? Why are women employers so much tougher if not to "out men the men."
Is feminism and modernity connected? I think so. The price of women being men is increased violence, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, crime and crucially - family breakup. They go hand in hand.
I remember when feminists said we would have a "kinder and caring" political class. Just look at Germany's Merkel or Thatcher or Hillary Clinton.
ps Lady Workers can be pretty tough too !!!
Can you blame women for wanting to be more like men? Look at the advantages to being male in our society. If there was an advantage to being a women, maybe more women wouldn't mind being women and still be assured they will be getting that promotion etc. Men treating women as inferior has caused a lot of what you see happening. When change happens it's usually swings to an extreme at first. Give it time and when equality for women becomes the norm, you may see the pendulum swing closer to some balance again. Women being women but still being able to compete in a 'man's world' as a woman and as an equal.
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Post by jondough on Jul 10, 2015 20:19:26 GMT -5
Interesting.....I read the OP....then just skipped to the last page (no time to read them all)......OP iis something about the Friends smoking......now its about men and women cheating....some leaving their socks on while they do it .......
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Post by rational on Jul 10, 2015 23:30:22 GMT -5
Why not? Adam and Eve did. Only unsuccessfully. They were discovered only after they showed themselves.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 11, 2015 0:56:16 GMT -5
In today's Australian, "Keeping up with the boys" shows a girl face down on the floor, bottle in hand. Epidemic of teenage drinking - with the boys 20% up on drink, and the girls up 50% in a few years.
Why do girls want to be like boys? Why are women employers so much tougher if not to "out men the men."
Is feminism and modernity connected? I think so. The price of women being men is increased violence, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, crime and crucially - family breakup. They go hand in hand.
I remember when feminists said we would have a "kinder and caring" political class. Just look at Germany's Merkel or Thatcher or Hillary Clinton.
ps Lady Workers can be pretty tough too !!!
Bert, your sexism is so blatant it sounds as if you are stuck in the 1950's!
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 11, 2015 0:59:11 GMT -5
Dmmichgood, comparing today's moral standards with what one society did to another is not a fair comparison. Yes, some whites attacked some blacks. And some blacks attacked other blacks. And some blacks kept slaves. And Romans committed genocide in Carthage and sold Gauls into slavery. And Crusaders murdered Jews and Arabs.
There will always be the alien "other" for any society. It's what people in a given society do to each other which counts here. And Now your racism is so blatant that you are stuck in the 1950's again!
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 11, 2015 1:18:10 GMT -5
Bert, why is it that you won't answer the questions that some of us have asked you?
We tell of our own history, of knowing the **TRUTH** (2x2's, f&w's), our parents, our grandparents, -our own childhood but you will never answer any question that any of us asks of you!
You needn't give us a complete autobiography but are you ashamed to divulge anything?
Did you only hear about the **TRUTH** (2x2's, f&w') as an adult?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 10:21:02 GMT -5
I certainly know friends who smoke. I nearly got hooked on it but I married someone who hated smoking so haven't since. Now my non-professing friends all don't smoke there is no pressure to. That goes for drinking too. I would go out with the friends and get legless and wake up still drunk. They were wild days my life is a lot more sober now I'm not professing.
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Post by gustaf on Jul 11, 2015 15:32:36 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2... I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture. The workers are a bunch of blind people with their noses buried in the crev asse of each other. I thank Jesus for his work and his Truth which sets one free from their peer pressure, vanity, self-importance, etc... People pleasers love being in the 2x2 and hope for a nice scratch behind their ears when they beg for approval.
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Jul 11, 2015 15:44:58 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2... I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture. The workers are a bunch of blind people with their noses buried in the crev asse of each other. I thank Jesus for his work and his Truth which sets one free from their peer pressure, vanity, self-importance, etc... People pleasers love being in the 2x2 and hope for a nice scratch behind their ears when they beg for approval. Can anyone here tell me where Worker Linda Griffith is lately? I miss her ! I'm having trouble reconciling these two posts.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 11, 2015 16:06:16 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2...I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of or won't allow the blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture.
The workers are a bunch of blind people with their noses buried in the crev asse of each other. I thank Jesus for his work and his Truth which sets one free from their peer pressure, vanity, self-importance, etc... People pleasers love being in the 2x2 and hope for a nice scratch behind their ears when they beg for approval. Gustaf, So it is only hens and that are " blind, prudish & clucking and parroting scripture? (read females)
And of course , it is only "GOD and the Holy Ghost," as HE (read male) are the ones that you can trust?
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Post by emy on Jul 11, 2015 16:35:08 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2... I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture...... Do you still smoke?
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Post by gustaf on Jul 11, 2015 16:54:21 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2... I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture...... Do you still smoke? I quit in 2008 without the hypocritical spiritual bullies (Workers) help...
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Post by slowtosee on Jul 11, 2015 17:20:52 GMT -5
Is smoking a "spiritual" issue or a health issue or... Is obesity a spiritual issue or a health issue? Oh, sorry Alvin, the scale shows you are 15 pounds overweight this week, so no participation in "church" allowed, till you are showing you have victory over food. Hmmmm. What else can I judge you on. Oh, yeah, your hair appears to be a little longer than code, and nope, electricity outage is no excuse, you could have used a pulltype...... as humans we are really quite "good" at being bad. Gender changes the rules. Of course, and the measurement now becomes on the hair bei ng too short, or not stacked properly or altered colors etc. These "judgements" are not restricted to "religous" circles at all. If one needed "proof" for evolutions argument of survival of the fittest, the judgements we observe daily from humanity towards each other makes a strong case imo. Alvin
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Post by gustaf on Jul 11, 2015 17:24:04 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2... I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture. The workers are a bunch of blind people with their noses buried in the crev asse of each other. I thank Jesus for his work and his Truth which sets one free from their peer pressure, vanity, self-importance, etc... People pleasers love being in the 2x2 and hope for a nice scratch behind their ears when they beg for approval. Can anyone here tell me where Worker Linda Griffith is lately? I miss her ! I'm having trouble reconciling these two posts. That's funny. I can't miss someone? Meeting her changed my life so much for the better, even though we barely knew each other she was a very significant person in my life's journey. She was the cause of my search for Truth (the Truth the flesh cannot see (The Glory of Christ our Savior)), but that was before she became a worker of course. I think it was a crossroad for her too. That is about the time she was thinking about going into the "Work". Time sure flies I am perfectly capable of not getting the institution of the whited sepulchers confused with my fondness for a human in the institution !! I have felt the power and influence of the workers gospel and would not want to deal with them without some fundamental understanding of the spiritual side of life ! They can claim the glory of Christ for themselves and they insist everyone agree or perish.... Don't sound like the Gospel of Jesus, but the gospel of the workers alone.
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Post by xna on Jul 11, 2015 17:33:56 GMT -5
Is smoking a "spiritual" issue or a health issue or... Is obesity a spiritual issue or a health issue? Oh, sorry Alvin, the scale shows you are 15 pounds overweight this week, so no participation in "church" allowed, till you are showing you have victory over food. Hmmmm. What else can I judge you on. Oh, yeah, your hair appears to be a little longer than code, and nope, electricity outage is no excuse, you could have used a pulltype...... as humans we are really quite "good" at being bad. Gender changes the rules. Of course, and the measurement now becomes on the hair bei ng too short, or not stacked properly or altered colors etc. These "judgements" are not restricted to "religous" circles at all. If one needed "proof" for evolutions argument of survival of the fittest, the judgements we observe daily from humanity towards each other makes a strong case imo. Alvin
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Post by emerald on Jul 11, 2015 20:20:34 GMT -5
So glad to see someone else actually speak about the actual topic of this Thread. It's right up my ally, being an ex-smoker and ex-2x2...I was told by the sister worker in my field I could not be baptized due to my smoking. I hadn't shown the cleansing power of the Holy Ghost in their eyes... I am so glad God gave us the Holy Ghost and his internal house keeping and changes vs a bunch of or won't allow the blind prudish hens clucking away and parroting scripture.
The workers are a bunch of blind people with their noses buried in the crev asse of each other. I thank Jesus for his work and his Truth which sets one free from their peer pressure, vanity, self-importance, etc... People pleasers love being in the 2x2 and hope for a nice scratch behind their ears when they beg for approval. Gustaf, So it is only hens and that are " blind, prudish & clucking and parroting scripture? (read females)
And of course , it is only "GOD and the Holy Ghost," as HE (read male) are the ones that you can trust?Back off dmmichgood. Read the post again and quit trying to put words in people's mouths. Gustaf said there were sister workers in his field. He said they were blind etc. The next sentence he referred to all workers as blind. Why not complain that he's generalising? As for your cheap shot about God and the Holy Spirit, surely you can't have forgotten that much about Christianity that you don't know that God and the Holy Spirit have always been referred to as male?
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Post by snow on Jul 11, 2015 21:00:23 GMT -5
Gustaf, So it is only hens and that are " blind, prudish & clucking and parroting scripture? (read females)
And of course , it is only "GOD and the Holy Ghost," as HE (read male) are the ones that you can trust? As for your cheap shot about God and the Holy Spirit, surely you can't have forgotten that much about Christianity that you don't know that God and the Holy Spirit have always been referred to as male? Isn't that what dmg said. The Christian God and Holy Spirit are male? Actually if we really want to go into what was believed, some believed that the Holy Spirit was female and the Gnosis aspect of the Trinity. Gnosis = Knowledge. Rather like the Sophia the Gnostics refer to.
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Post by slowtosee on Jul 11, 2015 21:10:50 GMT -5
Does a Spirit actually have a gender? Many people were offended by the portrayal of God as female in the book, "The Shack" but, really...? Alvin
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Post by LouiseKeating on Jul 11, 2015 21:21:24 GMT -5
What does the bible say about God?
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Post by snow on Jul 11, 2015 21:35:15 GMT -5
Does a Spirit actually have a gender? Many people were offended by the portrayal of God as female in the book, "The Shack" but, really...? Alvin Good question. However God of the Hebrews has been traditionally thought of as male and that is why they were considered a patriarchal society I suppose. Now Christianity and Islam also see their God as a male and not a Goddess. Recently the Pope has stated that God is genderless. But I think this is more a new thought? The Holy Spirit though has been thought by some to be 'feminine'. "Is There a Question About the Gender of the Holy Spirit?
In my graduate Semitics program at UCLA, one of the languages I had to study was Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic written with rounded letters reminiscent of modern Arabic. Syriac was the language of people living in northern Mesopotamia, from at least 300 BHONKYTONK-HOEDOWN-WHOOPTYDOOil the time Arabic became dominant in the region, around 1000 AD. Most of the Syriac documents available today were produced by a Monophysite branch of Christianity, today known as the Syrian Orthodox Church (monophysitism is the belief that Christ had but one nature). One striking puzzlement of the texts, at least to me, was the constant reference to the Holy Spirit as "she". I was aware, of course, that in Aramaic (and hence in the dialect known as Syriac) the natural gender of the word "spirit" was feminine; however, I was surprised to discover that this accident of grammar had resulted in a whole theology constructed around the femininity of the third person of the Godhead.
An example of Syriac theology is found in the apocryphal Acts of Thomas; it is usually assumed that this particular work was influenced by speculative gnostic Judaism because it contains the notion, that associated with God was a wisdom, or creative power - a spirit - which was feminine. In an invocation accompanying baptism, Thomas calls for the Holy Spirit:
Come, holy name of Christ that is above every name; Come, power of the Most High and perfect compassion; Come, thou highest gift; Come, compassionate mother; Come, fellowship of the male; Come, thou (f.) that dost reveal the hidden mysteries; Come, mother of seven houses, that thy rest may be in the eighth house. (Acts of Thomas 2:27) Come, silence that dost reveal the great deeds of the whole greatness; Come thou that dost show forth the hidden things And make the ineffable manifest; Holy Dove that bearest the twin young; Come, hidden Mother; Come, thou that art manifest in thy deeds and dost furnish joy and rest for all that are joined with thee; Come and partake with us in this Eucharist Which we celebrate in thy name, and in the love-feast in which we are gathered together at thy call. (Acts of Thomas 5:50)"To read the entire article you here: www.theology.edu/journal/volume3/spirit.htmHere is another interesting article on how the Hebrew and Aramaic translation of spirit is feminine and the Greek word for it was more neutral. It's interesting because some of the Gnostics believed the Holy Spirit to be the spiritual spouse of God and the feminine aspect of the Trinity. www.pistissophia.org/The_Holy_Spirit/the_holy_spirit.html
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