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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 21:11:13 GMT -5
Seems like info filters from top to bottom in many cases. From regional overseer>state overseer>lead workers in the field and convention owners>elders>faithful regular saints>weak saints. Often there is a spin put on the news. A suicide might be labeled as "passed away suddenly". I have seen news about someone leaving the work, special meeting visiting list, a new convention project or a meeting removal be subjugated to a bit of spin. I don't care for politics or spin. I don't think some people should know events before others do. I support transparency and accountability in ANY group.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 21:15:16 GMT -5
Seems like info filters from top to bottom in many cases. From regional overseer>state overseer>lead workers in the field and convention owners>elders>faithful regular saints>weak saints. Often there is a spin put on the news. A suicide might be labeled as "passed away suddenly". I have seen news about someone leaving the work, special meeting visiting list, a new convention project or a meeting removal be subjugated to a bit of spin. I don't care for politics or spin. I don't think some people should know events before others do. I support transparency and accountability in ANY group. is this gossip or what?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 21:27:15 GMT -5
Nope. Gossip involves juicy details about someone's behavior or character. This is how information passes down through the respective channels.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 0:16:13 GMT -5
Yes Virgo, G.O.S.S.I.P. Juicy, water-cooler type g.o.s.s.i.p.
Two forms of GOSSIP involve us on the internet - 1 - gossip about the church and 2 - gossip about a church member.
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"Bert drinks alcohol!" and "Bert's church congregates in tents out in a paddock."
Both are perjorative and subversive. Irrespective of whether they are "facts" Both make the Gossiper feel better about themselves. Both aid the Gossip's agenda.
The Gossip in this case spends a lot of time "studying" our church, but she does not TellTheTruth about how we read what she contemptously calls "pecking order" in the bible.
I can see there is a contempt for the bible as well in these threads. This is evinced in a contempt of authority (little more than one chicken pecking another) and a determination not to analyze hierachy in the OT and NT - if Walker is even aware there was one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 1:17:46 GMT -5
Nope. Gossip involves juicy details about someone's behavior or character. This is how information passes down through the respective channels. This article is about the type of conversation. For other uses, see Gossip (disambiguation). "Tattle" redirects here. It is not to be confused with Tattletale (disambiguation), Tattler (disambiguation), or Tatle (disambiguation). One winds on the distaff what the other spins (Both spread gossip) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder Gossip is idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others; the act of gossipping is also known as dishing or tattling.[1] Gossip has been researched in terms of its evolutionary psychology origins.[2] This has found gossip to be an important means by which people can monitor cooperative reputations and so maintain widespread indirect reciprocity.[3] Indirect reciprocity is defined here as "I help you and somebody else helps me." Gossip has also been identified by Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary biologist, as aiding social bonding in large groups.[4] With the advent of the internet, gossip is now widespread on an instant basis, from one place in the world to another what used to take a long time to filter through is now instant. The term is sometimes used to specifically refer to the spreading of dirt and misinformation, as (for example) through excited discussion of scandals. Some newspapers carry "gossip columns" which detail the social and personal lives of celebrities or of élite members of certain communities
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 5, 2015 1:33:30 GMT -5
Nope. Gossip involves juicy details about someone's behavior or character. This is how information passes down through the respective channels. This article is about the type of conversation. For other uses, see Gossip (disambiguation). "Tattle" redirects here. It is not to be confused with Tattletale (disambiguation), Tattler (disambiguation), or Tatle (disambiguation). One winds on the distaff what the other spins (Both spread gossip) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder Gossip is idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others; the act of gossipping is also known as dishing or tattling.[1] Gossip has been researched in terms of its evolutionary psychology origins.[2] This has found gossip to be an important means by which people can monitor cooperative reputations and so maintain widespread indirect reciprocity.[3] Indirect reciprocity is defined here as "I help you and somebody else helps me." Gossip has also been identified by Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary biologist, as aiding social bonding in large groups.[4] With the advent of the internet, gossip is now widespread on an instant basis, from one place in the world to another what used to take a long time to filter through is now instant. The term is sometimes used to specifically refer to the spreading of dirt and misinformation, as (for example) through excited discussion of scandals. Some newspapers carry "gossip columns" which detail the social and personal lives of celebrities or of élite members of certain communities WOW virgo! I'm impressed!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 1:52:11 GMT -5
This article is about the type of conversation. For other uses, see Gossip (disambiguation). "Tattle" redirects here. It is not to be confused with Tattletale (disambiguation), Tattler (disambiguation), or Tatle (disambiguation). One winds on the distaff what the other spins (Both spread gossip) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder Gossip is idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others; the act of gossipping is also known as dishing or tattling.[1] Gossip has been researched in terms of its evolutionary psychology origins.[2] This has found gossip to be an important means by which people can monitor cooperative reputations and so maintain widespread indirect reciprocity.[3] Indirect reciprocity is defined here as "I help you and somebody else helps me." Gossip has also been identified by Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary biologist, as aiding social bonding in large groups.[4] With the advent of the internet, gossip is now widespread on an instant basis, from one place in the world to another what used to take a long time to filter through is now instant. The term is sometimes used to specifically refer to the spreading of dirt and misinformation, as (for example) through excited discussion of scandals. Some newspapers carry "gossip columns" which detail the social and personal lives of celebrities or of élite members of certain communities WOW virgo! I'm impressed!so you should be:D it came from that wiki place
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 5, 2015 2:06:48 GMT -5
WOW virgo! I'm impressed! so you should be:D it came from that wiki place I know!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 2:50:24 GMT -5
so you should be:D it came from that wiki place I know! nobody can fool you aye
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Post by fixit on Jul 5, 2015 3:20:58 GMT -5
Yes Virgo, G.O.S.S.I.P. Juicy, water-cooler type g.o.s.s.i.p. Two forms of GOSSIP involve us on the internet - 1 - gossip about the church and 2 - gossip about a church member. by way of example: "Bert drinks alcohol!" That's not gossip. It was a Bert confession.
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Post by withlove on Jul 5, 2015 15:44:29 GMT -5
Seems like info filters from top to bottom in many cases. From regional overseer>state overseer>lead workers in the field and convention owners>elders>faithful regular saints>weak saints. Often there is a spin put on the news. A suicide might be labeled as "passed away suddenly". I have seen news about someone leaving the work, special meeting visiting list, a new convention project or a meeting removal be subjugated to a bit of spin. I don't care for politics or spin. I don't think some people should know events before others do. I support transparency and accountability in ANY group. is this gossip or what? It sounds to me like Walker is condemning gossip, not gossiping.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 18:17:08 GMT -5
It sounds to me like Walker is condemning gossip, not gossiping. is he really? well i don't see that
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Post by placid-void on Jul 5, 2015 18:43:10 GMT -5
Seems like info filters from top to bottom in many cases. From regional overseer>state overseer>lead workers in the field and convention owners>elders>faithful regular saints>weak saints. Often there is a spin put on the news. A suicide might be labeled as "passed away suddenly". I have seen news about someone leaving the work, special meeting visiting list, a new convention project or a meeting removal be subjugated to a bit of spin. I don't care for politics or spin. I don't think some people should know events before others do. I support transparency and accountability in ANY group. Considering the lack of conviction suggested by the phrases in blue, I wonder if the author (in the spirit of transparency and accountability) would be willing to describe the value/knowledge a reader of this thread might expect to achieve after reading through. In other words, is there a point here that one would want to be accountable for?
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Post by withlove on Jul 5, 2015 20:03:50 GMT -5
It sounds to me like Walker is condemning gossip, not gossiping. is he really? well i don't see that Walker called it politics, but ... news that has been spun and is filtered to certain people, down the chain and around, might be considered gossip? Walker didn't talk about who left the work or the list or a project or removal. Walker is saying that info should be honest and made available to the whole church. That seems like a reasonable expectation, and talking about the need for it doesn't seem like gossip.
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Post by What Hat on Jul 5, 2015 22:18:35 GMT -5
so you should be:D it came from that wiki place I know! You mean the random numbers in square brackets weren't yours?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 22:49:17 GMT -5
I know! You mean the random numbers in square brackets weren't yours? why would you think they were mine??
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Post by What Hat on Jul 5, 2015 23:11:21 GMT -5
You mean the random numbers in square brackets weren't yours? why would you think they were mine?? There's no attribution in your post. I'm sure that was unintentional. One good way to handle copy-paste text is with the 'blockquote' delimiters as shown in the box below. [blockquote]Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam et cetera, et cetera. (Name the source in round brackets at the end)[/blockquote] The result looks like this, nicely indented from your own words: Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam turpis ante molestie pellentesque. Scelerisque porttitor nec donec mattis. Et in eros, mattis elit lorem habitasse pede, urna amet faucibus lorem ut, mauris et magna nec et inventore. Vitae vel integer mauris, ut vitae porta cras, egestas habitasse sollicitudin donec wisi felis wisi, facilisis sed non vestibulum aenean bibendum, tristique nec justo aliquam montes consectetuer. Aliquam eu odio in sollicitudin nulla, sit quam posuere. Aliquet sed, wisi rhoncus turpis praesent, amet condimentum tortor, diam lectus rutrum eget lorem elit, metus ac mauris id orci. Tempor justo sed placerat sapien blandit sed, mauris id nam nam, erat vehicula dui urna, vestibulum quibusdam, curabitur aliquam sapien lacus vivamus donec. Nulla morbi est ac egestas leo pellentesque, litora turpis nonummy orci mauris morbi, ipsum aute bibendum eros pellentesque. Quam pellentesque, tortor urna pharetra, fringilla id eu ligula magna arcu, et magnis ac adipiscing. Placerat quis, enim donec condimentum vel. Sed sed fringilla morbi dolor, a wisi nulla, convallis magna, sodales aliquet quisque. (Name the source in round brackets at the end)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 23:38:43 GMT -5
why would you think they were mine?? There's no attribution in your post. I'm sure that was unintentional. One good way to handle copy-paste text is with the 'blockquote' delimiters as shown in the box below. [blockquote]Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam et cetera, et cetera. (Name the source in round brackets at the end)[/blockquote] The result looks like this, nicely indented from your own words: Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam turpis ante molestie pellentesque. Scelerisque porttitor nec donec mattis. Et in eros, mattis elit lorem habitasse pede, urna amet faucibus lorem ut, mauris et magna nec et inventore. Vitae vel integer mauris, ut vitae porta cras, egestas habitasse sollicitudin donec wisi felis wisi, facilisis sed non vestibulum aenean bibendum, tristique nec justo aliquam montes consectetuer. Aliquam eu odio in sollicitudin nulla, sit quam posuere. Aliquet sed, wisi rhoncus turpis praesent, amet condimentum tortor, diam lectus rutrum eget lorem elit, metus ac mauris id orci. Tempor justo sed placerat sapien blandit sed, mauris id nam nam, erat vehicula dui urna, vestibulum quibusdam, curabitur aliquam sapien lacus vivamus donec. Nulla morbi est ac egestas leo pellentesque, litora turpis nonummy orci mauris morbi, ipsum aute bibendum eros pellentesque. Quam pellentesque, tortor urna pharetra, fringilla id eu ligula magna arcu, et magnis ac adipiscing. Placerat quis, enim donec condimentum vel. Sed sed fringilla morbi dolor, a wisi nulla, convallis magna, sodales aliquet quisque. (Name the source in round brackets at the end) i see said the blind man, it is as clear as mud
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Post by What Hat on Jul 5, 2015 23:47:26 GMT -5
There's no attribution in your post. I'm sure that was unintentional. One good way to handle copy-paste text is with the 'blockquote' delimiters as shown in the box below. [blockquote]Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam et cetera, et cetera. (Name the source in round brackets at the end)[/blockquote] The result looks like this, nicely indented from your own words: Copy and paste text here. e.g. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, porta rutrum nam turpis ante molestie pellentesque. Scelerisque porttitor nec donec mattis. Et in eros, mattis elit lorem habitasse pede, urna amet faucibus lorem ut, mauris et magna nec et inventore. Vitae vel integer mauris, ut vitae porta cras, egestas habitasse sollicitudin donec wisi felis wisi, facilisis sed non vestibulum aenean bibendum, tristique nec justo aliquam montes consectetuer. Aliquam eu odio in sollicitudin nulla, sit quam posuere. Aliquet sed, wisi rhoncus turpis praesent, amet condimentum tortor, diam lectus rutrum eget lorem elit, metus ac mauris id orci. Tempor justo sed placerat sapien blandit sed, mauris id nam nam, erat vehicula dui urna, vestibulum quibusdam, curabitur aliquam sapien lacus vivamus donec. Nulla morbi est ac egestas leo pellentesque, litora turpis nonummy orci mauris morbi, ipsum aute bibendum eros pellentesque. Quam pellentesque, tortor urna pharetra, fringilla id eu ligula magna arcu, et magnis ac adipiscing. Placerat quis, enim donec condimentum vel. Sed sed fringilla morbi dolor, a wisi nulla, convallis magna, sodales aliquet quisque. (Name the source in round brackets at the end) i see said the blind man, it is as clear as mud You mean, "as he picked up his hammer and saw"? Doing is believing. Type in what I showed you in the box, and post it to see what happens to the text. Or use 'preview'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 17:21:32 GMT -5
There is a pecking order. My uncle once told me he knew who was going to be our special meeting visitors but was told not to tell us. This kind of lack of transparency is baffling.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 20:38:04 GMT -5
There is a pecking order. My uncle once told me he knew who was going to be our special meeting visitors but was told not to tell us. This kind of lack of transparency is baffling. do you really think God is gonna get mad because someone wouldn't tell who visiting workers were? is it critical to your salvation to know that?
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Post by snow on Jul 7, 2015 20:40:39 GMT -5
I don't think that was really Walkers point though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 14:03:00 GMT -5
Walker, It is all about power. Where is the meekness and humility we have heard from the platform so many times. Words without works are soo dead!!!! Do as I say, not as I DO!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 1:44:53 GMT -5
There is a pecking order. My uncle once told me he knew who was going to be our special meeting visitors but was told not to tell us. This kind of lack of transparency is baffling. oh your uncle told you? how funny is that? the whole world has fallen apart
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Post by withlove on Jul 9, 2015 2:04:45 GMT -5
There is a pecking order. My uncle once told me he knew who was going to be our special meeting visitors but was told not to tell us. This kind of lack of transparency is baffling. do you really think God is gonna get mad because someone wouldn't tell who visiting workers were? is it critical to your salvation to know that?
Is all the secrecy helpful to your soul's progress? Why do questions have to be shut down rather than considered? Why protect the workers from letting you in on information that shouldn't harm anyone to know? Do you see that it's a control issue and if so, why aren't you bothered by that? I do think God is.
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