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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Jun 15, 2015 6:40:53 GMT -5
It seems to me that society grows increasingly afraid of quietness. Why do you think that Alan? As I get older it seems people are more stressed and anxious in their daily life. It may just be me growing older, bubbles, and loving quietness - I don't even care to listen to Led Zeppelin any more! I have craved music all my life, while now I hear too much noise, too much chatter.
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Post by hberry on Jun 15, 2015 10:01:07 GMT -5
It seems to me that society grows increasingly afraid of quietness. I, by nature, prefer quiet, so I acknowledge my bias. However I notice that most of my neighbors are unable to have a party without cranking up their radio up WAY too loud. I asked one neighbor to please turn his radio down so we could sleep, and he said 'why don't you like music.' Since I'm a music major at a local college, that struck me funny, since I was not objecting to the music but to the volume. My question to him was 'why does it have to be so loud?' He didn't have an answer for that and mumbled something about wanting to enjoy himself. I suppose the answer to that is now that amplification is easy to buy, the folks might have been as loud back in the day as they are now but didn't have the technology to do so. I read in Nat Geo that cranked-up radios were causes of fights in Afghanistan. Heavy sigh. Maybe it isn't just our society that gets nervous when it is too quiet. As much as I don't like the desert, one of its attractions for me is the amazing stillness that settles over the land at dusk. If there aren't a bunch of rowdies around that is There is a cleansing calm for me in that, and I can see why one might retreat to a desert setting to meditate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 11:58:23 GMT -5
That silence is golden and it facilitates a quieted spirit, well for me anyway, it is kind of a hall mark of our fellowship. You get that in many traditional churches. As I said above, you can go into a Catholic church any time and there is always dead silence. Other churches too. I personally like the buzz of fellowship and greeting each other before and after church. That is usually at the door before entering church though. I do not dispute that, I have no doubt that there is that silence in some other churches, but I have attend churches where church officials have had to make several appeals for silence in the church prior to the commencement of a service, that is particularly so at some funeral services;there is more silence in a court of Law than in some of these funeral gatherings, more like a fish market sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 12:06:28 GMT -5
For some of us, growing deaf is a mixed bag! I miss out on much, yet appreciate the growing quietness. One thing though, when sound overwhelms, for me the answer is to simply "vote with my feet."
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Post by snow on Jun 15, 2015 12:12:16 GMT -5
For some of us, growing deaf is a mixed bag! I miss out on much, yet appreciate the growing quietness. One thing though, when sound overwhelms, for me the answer is to simply "vote with my feet." I have been deaf for most of my life so for me it has been a way of life. I wear hearing aides all the time but at night when I take them out it is soooo nice and quiet. There are advantages to every disability I guess lol. I don't have trouble with noises in the night keeping me awake. The downside is it's likely not all that safe because I am alone at night a lot. My dog has taken to alerting me to things in the night. She has also learned that if she wants out she needs to jump up and poke me with her nose. The cat also seems to know he has to walk on me to get a response. Meowing doesn't do the trick ha!
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Post by hberry on Jun 15, 2015 12:15:20 GMT -5
That silence is golden and it facilitates a quieted spirit, well for me anyway, it is kind of a hall mark of our fellowship. You get that in many traditional churches. As I said above, you can go into a Catholic church any time and there is always dead silence. Other churches too. I personally like the buzz of fellowship and greeting each other before and after church. That is usually at the door before entering church though. One thing that has happened to me now that I'm another church is that I actually like the buzz of warm fellowship I hear when I enter the hall. We meet in a rented auditorium, so after the bible study there is a 15 break before the service starts. The folks stand in the hall and discuss the study, their lives, the weather....whatever comes to mind. We don't make it for the bible study often as it is earlier than hubby can get ready, so when I walk in the hall and hear the murmur of greetings and get some hugs and handshakes, I feel like I'm with family. You don't usually walk into your family gatherings to be greeted with silence, unless something is wrong, of course. However, when folks move into the auditorium for the service, they do so quietly while the piano plays a hymn. I like their tradition, just as I liked the fellowship tradition while I met with that group. One of the local churches is about 5,000 is number, and I'm surprised at how quiet they are before the service starts. Each group develops their own practice and then feels comfortable with it, I would imagine.
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Post by snow on Jun 15, 2015 13:29:27 GMT -5
I agree hberry. So opposite to meetings. I love the buzz and joy of coming together for worship. The joy of the Lord is our strength. Even hymns when they are sung in meeting is like a deathly slow pace. I have always been deaf snow. Wear 2 hearing aids. Agree, there are benefits when trying to sleep I don't hear the noises others do but there were major disadvantages in early school years. Yes, it was an issue in school especially at first because they didn't realize I was that deaf until I was around 11 years old. So I likely missed a lot. It was actually funny what triggered them to check my hearing. I was rounding up cattle with my dad and a heifer took off out of the group and I took off after it to bring it back in. Well my dad had yelled to me where he wanted me to take her once I had her rounded up again and I didn't hear him and just went about it 'my' way. Well he was furious and said, 'what are you deaf'? That's when they took me for testing and yes I was deaf, quite deaf in my left ear which was the one facing him when he was yelling. Over the years my right ear is now needing a hearing aide too. They figure it was nerve damage due to rheumatic fever, but I don't know because I don't have any of my medical history before I was 9 months. I did come to my parents with an ear problem though because I held my head to the left side, so it was likely painful. They did get it fixed, but it likely was too late for the ear nerves.
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Post by emy on Jun 15, 2015 15:30:05 GMT -5
I was 7 when everyone in our level got tested for hearing. On the way out of class I got called back. I thought I'm in big trouble. I got asked am I able to hear what the teacher was saying. As far as I knew could. How do you know what you don't hear if you don't hear it? We always thought I was deaf because I had measles when I was 4 but a specialist said it would have been before then in the prelinguist stage due to me having some speech difficulties. I still haven't worked out how to say 's'. Only people who work with deaf people can really pick it up. Anyway, with new research the audiologist says given the shape of my hearing loss on the audiogram it would be because my mother had anti biotics in the first trimester of pregnancy with me. Or the 3rd trimester or some trimester, I forget. Both my ears are the same and there has been no change in my hearing since my first test at 7 which further shows it was a birth defect. What was the topic of the thread again? Oh yea, it was quietness before meeting. In keeping with the topic now that I wear hearing aids, I notice the stir of throat clearing, rustling, etc. before meeting. No problem - just a different experience. I didn't wear any aid much until about 20 years ago, and then just one which wasn't very useful except in quiet environments. A year and a half ago I got 2 after losing hearing in my other ear to the point it seemed worse than the deaf one (mildly deaf). What a change!! It's interesting that others of you also have hearing loss. We have a son who was diagnosed at age 3 (after quite a lot of persuasion by us). His life was greatly changed when he got his hearing aids. It was like someone turned a switch - well, I guess they did! He became a very compliant, easy child.
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Post by SharonArnold on Jun 15, 2015 15:30:38 GMT -5
For some of us, growing deaf is a mixed bag! I miss out on much, yet appreciate the growing quietness. One thing though, when sound overwhelms, for me the answer is to simply "vote with my feet." I think the ability to control the input from our own environment is huge. If not on a physical level, then definitely on a mental level. I am an introvert, kinesthetic, then visual, love silence, selected music and audio - auditory is a distant third. I sort out what I really think about things by going away by myself with gardening, nature, and my dog (and kitties). I love an ashram not far from where I live, where meals (vegetarian, locally grown produce) are consumed in total silence, overlooking magnificent vistas of mountains and lake. My husband is a total extrovert with boundless energy, has tinnitus (well accomodated), an auditory person who sorts out what he really thinks about things by talking about them. I learned really early in our relationship that if I was not going to be completely overwhelmed when he was sorting out stuff for himself that I needed to shut out all background music, noises, distractions, etc... Over time, I have learned that there is certain music - Leonard Cohen, Terry Oldfield and Soraya Saraswati, certain classical pieces - that work as a background when he is around. I am still figuring out what characteristics these kinds of music possess, but I think it is a sense of presence, of groundedness, that may be missing from much other background noise.
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Post by snow on Jun 15, 2015 15:36:30 GMT -5
I was 7 when everyone in our level got tested for hearing. On the way out of class I got called back. I thought I'm in big trouble. I got asked am I able to hear what the teacher was saying. As far as I knew could. How do you know what you don't hear if you don't hear it? We always thought I was deaf because I had measles when I was 4 but a specialist said it would have been before then in the prelinguist stage due to me having some speech difficulties. I still haven't worked out how to say 's'. Only people who work with deaf people can really pick it up. Anyway, with new research the audiologist says given the shape of my hearing loss on the audiogram it would be because my mother had anti biotics in the first trimester of pregnancy with me. Or the 3rd trimester or some trimester, I forget. Both my ears are the same and there has been no change in my hearing since my first test at 7 which further shows it was a birth defect. What was the topic of the thread again? Oh yea, it was quietness before meeting. In keeping with the topic now that I wear hearing aids, I notice the stir of throat clearing, rustling, etc. before meeting. No problem - just a different experience. I didn't wear any aid much until about 20 years ago, and then just one which wasn't very useful except in quiet environments. A year and a half ago I got 2 after losing hearing in my other ear to the point it seemed worse than the deaf one (mildly deaf). What a change!! It's interesting that others of you also have hearing loss. We have a son who was diagnosed at age 3 (after quite a lot of persuasion by us). His life was greatly changed when he got his hearing aids. It was like someone turned a switch - well, I guess they did! He became a very compliant, easy child. Emy I can sure relate to all the sounds you never heard and all of a sudden they are there! What a noisy world the rest of you live in When I finally needed to get a hearing aide for my 'good' ear, I was hearing all these sounds that I wasn't hearing and asking my husband, 'what is that noise'. It was like getting glasses too, who knew there were individual leaves on that tree lol....
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Post by emy on Jun 15, 2015 15:46:18 GMT -5
This is getting WAY off topic, but I also had cataract surgery a couple months ago. Now I have nearly 20-20 vision in both eyes! The optometrist who tested my eyes said, Welcome back to 20-20,but it wasn't back for me! It was first time ever!!
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Post by hberry on Jun 15, 2015 15:51:37 GMT -5
I was 7 when everyone in our level got tested for hearing. On the way out of class I got called back. I thought I'm in big trouble. I got asked am I able to hear what the teacher was saying. As far as I knew could. How do you know what you don't hear if you don't hear it? We always thought I was deaf because I had measles when I was 4 but a specialist said it would have been before then in the prelinguist stage due to me having some speech difficulties. I still haven't worked out how to say 's'. Only people who work with deaf people can really pick it up. Anyway, with new research the audiologist says given the shape of my hearing loss on the audiogram it would be because my mother had anti biotics in the first trimester of pregnancy with me. Or the 3rd trimester or some trimester, I forget. Both my ears are the same and there has been no change in my hearing since my first test at 7 which further shows it was a birth defect. What was the topic of the thread again? Oh yea, it was quietness before meeting. In keeping with the topic now that I wear hearing aids, I notice the stir of throat clearing, rustling, etc. before meeting. No problem - just a different experience. I didn't wear any aid much until about 20 years ago, and then just one which wasn't very useful except in quiet environments. A year and a half ago I got 2 after losing hearing in my other ear to the point it seemed worse than the deaf one (mildly deaf). What a change!! It's interesting that others of you also have hearing loss. We have a son who was diagnosed at age 3 (after quite a lot of persuasion by us). His life was greatly changed when he got his hearing aids. It was like someone turned a switch - well, I guess they did! He became a very compliant, easy child. A friend of mine comes from a family with inherited, progressive hearing loss. (Her brother is a worker in your neck of the woods who took longer than he should have to get his.) She just got new hearing aids with, I think I'm remembering the number right, 62 channels. I don't have hearing aids (yet, at least) so that doesn't mean anything to me, but she said it helped with phone conversations and in noisy environments, and she was tremendously encouraged by how much better they were than her last pair. That's one good use of technology. However, I understand hearing aids are expensive. I have tinnitus, and the constant sound in my head is fatiguing. I've gotten used to it, somewhat, but I assume that even if I lose my hearing, I'll still hear those noises--which strikes me as unfair
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Post by hberry on Jun 15, 2015 15:52:36 GMT -5
This is getting WAY off topic, but I also had cataract surgery a couple months ago. Now I have nearly 20-20 vision in both eyes! The optometrist who tested my eyes said, Welcome back to 20-20,but it wasn't back for me! It was first time ever!! That could almost make you want cataracts! I have really bad astigmatism; not sure if they can correct that or not while they are in there, but I can always hope.
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Post by snow on Jun 15, 2015 16:21:23 GMT -5
This is getting WAY off topic, but I also had cataract surgery a couple months ago. Now I have nearly 20-20 vision in both eyes! The optometrist who tested my eyes said, Welcome back to 20-20,but it wasn't back for me! It was first time ever!! I was thinking of doing that just this morning. I don't remember having good vision ever and what it must be like to open your eyes and see without having to reach for your glasses. I'm envious! Enjoy! I read somewhere that they are working of perfecting a bionic lens and I think I will go for that whenever it becomes available.
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Post by snow on Jun 15, 2015 16:26:42 GMT -5
In keeping with the topic now that I wear hearing aids, I notice the stir of throat clearing, rustling, etc. before meeting. No problem - just a different experience. I didn't wear any aid much until about 20 years ago, and then just one which wasn't very useful except in quiet environments. A year and a half ago I got 2 after losing hearing in my other ear to the point it seemed worse than the deaf one (mildly deaf). What a change!! It's interesting that others of you also have hearing loss. We have a son who was diagnosed at age 3 (after quite a lot of persuasion by us). His life was greatly changed when he got his hearing aids. It was like someone turned a switch - well, I guess they did! He became a very compliant, easy child. A friend of mine comes from a family with inherited, progressive hearing loss. (Her brother is a worker in your neck of the woods who took longer than he should have to get his.) She just got new hearing aids with, I think I'm remembering the number right, 62 channels. I don't have hearing aids (yet, at least) so that doesn't mean anything to me, but she said it helped with phone conversations and in noisy environments, and she was tremendously encouraged by how much better they were than her last pair. That's one good use of technology. However, I understand hearing aids are expensive. I have tinnitus, and the constant sounds in my head is fatiguing. I've gotten used to it, somewhat, but I assume that even if I lose my hearing, I'll still hear those noises--which strikes me as unfair Yes I've had hearing aides since I was 11 so I have seen a lot of changes as I'm now almost 60. My last pair really are pretty good, but they only last about 5-6 years. I am due for a new pair and looking forward to whatever advances they may have made in the last few years. They are expensive though. It cost me 6,000.00 for my last pair. Every 5 or 6 years that adds up especially since in Canada they don't give you any breaks for hearing aides until you are a senior. I can hardly wait to be a senior, lol.... Also, cataracts are looking better too... I want them bionic eyes. Sure am glad I live in this day and age or I wouldn't see a darn thing or hear anything neither!
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Post by kurtzphil69 on Aug 31, 2015 14:54:33 GMT -5
"Silence is the greatest passion of all." Read that somewhere...
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