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Post by terfly4fun on May 25, 2015 12:18:31 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible?
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Post by Greg on May 25, 2015 12:26:48 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible? You heard one person say this? Do you know this person? Did s/ he say "they" - as in s/he and others - or did s/he mean just her/him?
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Post by snow on May 25, 2015 13:55:50 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible? I certainly don't have a bible, nor do I want one. Never have heard of atheists using the bible except to debate possibly with theists so they know what theists are talking about.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 15:43:10 GMT -5
yes some atheist have bibles some were once Christians in fact...
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Post by terfly4fun on May 25, 2015 15:56:44 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible? I certainly don't have a bible, nor do I want one. Never have heard of atheists using the bible except to debate possibly with theists so they know what theists are talking about.
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Post by terfly4fun on May 25, 2015 16:04:55 GMT -5
Does it matter whether or not I know this person personally? No, I don't know them, but does that really matter? Secondly, this person just made the general statement " ... I think it's time for a new Bible to be written that's easier to understand." now I presume since the person said "I" they were referring to only theirself ... otherwise ... maybe they would have said "we" think this or that or feel like this or that. I think I clearly said this person said "I" and not we. I didn't mean to rattle anyone's cage but just wondered from this person's comment if athiests have a Bible and/or why they would want a newer one written if they don't believe in it.
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Post by snow on May 25, 2015 16:51:53 GMT -5
no cage rattled. Just answered your question based on me and what I have known to be true of atheists I know.
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Post by Gene on May 25, 2015 17:00:26 GMT -5
Does it matter whether or not I know this person personally? No, I don't know them, but does that really matter? Secondly, this person just made the general statement " ... I think it's time for a new Bible to be written that's easier to understand." now I presume since the person said "I" they were referring to only theirself ... otherwise ... maybe they would have said "we" think this or that or feel like this or that. I think I clearly said this person said "I" and not we. I didn't mean to rattle anyone's cage but just wondered from this person's comment if athiests have a Bible and/or why they would want a newer one written if they don't believe in it. One need not believe in divine authorship of the Bible to view it as a valuable work of literature for many reasons.
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Post by Greg on May 25, 2015 17:20:48 GMT -5
I didn't mean to rattle anyone's cage ... I think that should be my line.
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Post by terfly4fun on May 25, 2015 20:48:06 GMT -5
Greg you can coin that phrase ... about rattling someone's cage. Just like I did. Ha!
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Post by Greg on May 25, 2015 20:56:21 GMT -5
Greg you can coin that phrase ... about rattling someone's cage. Just like I did. Ha! Coin a phrase Meaning To create a new phrase. Origin 'To coin a phrase' is now rarely used with its original 'invent a new phrase' meaning but is almost always used ironically to introduce a banal or clichéd sentiment. Source
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Post by terfly4fun on May 25, 2015 21:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah right Greg ... I mean ANYONE should know that ... right? Sorry ... I should have known that. Thanks for pointing that out. I try to be perfect; but, it's hard bein' a genius!
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Post by Lee on May 25, 2015 21:23:52 GMT -5
Does it matter whether or not I know this person personally? No, I don't know them, but does that really matter? Secondly, this person just made the general statement " ... I think it's time for a new Bible to be written that's easier to understand." now I presume since the person said "I" they were referring to only theirself ... otherwise ... maybe they would have said "we" think this or that or feel like this or that. I think I clearly said this person said "I" and not we. I didn't mean to rattle anyone's cage but just wondered from this person's comment if athiests have a Bible and/or why they would want a newer one written if they don't believe in it. One need not believe in divine authorship of the Bible to view it as a valuable work of literature for many reasons. Of course! Neither should we view literature in general as having a general author, God. For we know 'God' is a conspiracy comprised of those imbeciles who were once opposed to man. (If they're opposed now we'll get em through the courts.) But take heart, man shall prevail over God! God was a crutch when we, man didn't know better. We're really free now, Christ has set us free! Free to be all we were meant to be! Free to be all we mean to be! Freedom must be free, radically totally completely!!!
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Post by Lee on May 25, 2015 21:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on May 25, 2015 22:17:36 GMT -5
yes some atheist have bibles some were once Christians in fact... Geeze! Really?
What do you think caused them to become atheists?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:19:24 GMT -5
yes some atheist have bibles some were once Christians in fact... Geeze! Really?
What do you think caused them to become atheists?
satan and his cronies...
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Post by dmmichgood on May 25, 2015 22:27:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:29:26 GMT -5
half the battle is won when satan and his kind can get you to believe he doesn't exist...
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Post by rational on May 25, 2015 23:29:12 GMT -5
All religions have their bible. For a time the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics provided a solid base. Now the congregation just sits around and creates their astrological charts.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 25, 2015 23:57:03 GMT -5
All religions have their bible. For a time the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics provided a solid base. Now the congregation just sits around and creates their astrological charts.
Oh, geeze!
You mean that the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics is obsolete ?
My son has one in his library. I had planned on sneaking it out of his room & putting it on my amazon seller's book list. I see that a used one is selling for $150. Oh, Heck! There goes my profit for the month!
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Post by magpie on May 26, 2015 7:46:02 GMT -5
There is a Satanic Bible,have had to handle clients,deeply steep in it. Yet they will uphold the Spirit of it, denying that there must be good Spirits, if they believe in bad/evil ones,dont want to know there is an opposite.
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Post by rational on May 26, 2015 10:28:43 GMT -5
Oh, geeze! You mean that the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics is obsolete ? My son has one in his library. I had planned on sneaking it out of his room & putting it on my amazon seller's book list. I see that a used one is selling for $150. Oh, Heck! There goes my profit for the month! It is not obsolete and they will send you an updated version. It is just with the same information available online I don't see the need for the Handbook. I still have one from 1965. I think there is an error on page of the random number list.
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Post by xna on May 26, 2015 17:02:50 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible? I threw my bible, bible case, hymnal, concordance, lists, etc in the trash. So far I not felt the need to replace them. In contrast; When I grew up it was a big no-no to put anything on top of a bible, as this was a sign of ultimate disrespect. Having read the bible daily for decades, and cover to cover many times, I remember most of it, or at lease enough to find the exact verse with google. Today I would not be repulsed by owing a bible, I just wouldn't pay good money for it. I am however tempted to play the game; Hide The Bible. hidethebible.tumblr.com
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Post by magpie on May 27, 2015 1:43:11 GMT -5
There is an Atheist Service in Melbourne-----www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Atheists------Their Bible is available as Satanic Bible --via--Amazon.Love to hear a Left Wing Atheist Intellectual debate unlearnard 2x2s ministers--Workers would soon find out what a Teacher (Eph 4,vse,11/12)of theology can do to strengthen ones Christian stand.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 27, 2015 2:16:01 GMT -5
I recently heard a self-claimed atheist say they believe it is time a newer version of the Bible is written that is easier to understand etc. I'm wondering why an atheist would believe we should have ANY version of a Bible? Why would a self-claimed atheist want to better understand the Bible? Do atheists have a Bible or believe in any type of Bible? I threw my bible, bible case, hymnal, concordance, lists, etc in the trash. So far I not felt the need to replace them. In contrast; When I grew up it was a big no-no to put anything on top of a bible, as this was a sign of ultimate disrespect. Having read the bible daily for decades, and cover to cover many times, I remember most of it, or at lease enough to find the exact verse with google. Today I would not be repulsed by owing a bible, I just wouldn't pay good money for it. I am however tempted to play the game; Hide The Bible. hidethebible.tumblr.com Hey! I like that one!
I usually just take them & throw them in the nearest trash bin.
Now, before anyone starts saying, I shouldn't do that, -just remember, -I have every right to get rid of them out of my personal space as they seem to think that they have a right to put them in my personal space!
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Post by rational on May 27, 2015 6:49:19 GMT -5
There is an Atheist Service in Melbourne-----www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Atheists------Their Bible is available as Satanic Bible --via--Amazon.Love to hear a Left Wing Atheist Intellectual debate unlearnard 2x2s ministers--Workers would soon find out what a Teacher (Eph 4,vse,11/12)of theology can do to strengthen ones Christian stand. Why would atheists believe in the santanic bible?
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Post by rational on May 27, 2015 6:54:16 GMT -5
Hey! I like that one! I usually just take them & throw them in the nearest trash bin. Now, before anyone starts saying, I shouldn't do that, -just remember, -I have every right to get rid of them out of my personal space as they seem to think that they have a right to put them in my personal space! You are wrong. You have no more right to destroy the hotel's bible than you would have to destroy their sheets, chairs, or the TV because it had programs that had not received your imprimatur.
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Post by dmmichgood on May 27, 2015 16:07:21 GMT -5
Hey! I like that one! I usually just take them & throw them in the nearest trash bin. Now, before anyone starts saying, I shouldn't do that, -just remember, -I have every right to get rid of them out of my personal space as they seem to think that they have a right to put them in my personal space! You are wrong. You have no more right to destroy the hotel's bible than you would have to destroy their sheets, chairs, or the TV because it had programs that had not received your imprimatur. You are wrong! Those bibles are NOT the property of the hotel like sheets, chairs, or the TV! Those bibles are the property exclusively of the Gideon society. Why Are There Gideon Bibles in Hotel Rooms? Because the Gideons put them there!
The Gideon Bible is not some special version or translation of the Bible that hotels really like (the books are usually plain old King James Versions); they're named for the group that distributes them.
Gideons International got its start in 1898, when two traveling businessmen, John H. Nicholson and Samuel E. Hill, arrived at the crowded Central Hotel in Boscobel, Wisconsin, for the night.
The two had never met, but there was only one double room left, so they decided to share it. The men got to talking and found they shared a common faith and had both toyed with the idea of creating an evangelical association for Christian businessmen.
They decided to give it a shot together. They called a meeting the following year for men who were interested in joining together for “mutual recognition, personal evangelism, and united service for the Lord.” Only one other person showed up to that meeting—William J. Knights, who suggested they name their organization after Gideon, an Old Testament judge who led a small band of men to defeat a much larger army.
As the group expanded in its first few years, most of the new members were men who frequently traveled for work and spent many of their nights in hotel rooms. They wondered how they might be more effective witnesses for Christ on the road, and hit upon the idea of providing Bibles to hotels. They could be used not only by the Gideons’ members as they traveled around the country, but also borrowed by other guests in need of them. They started with the Superior Hotel in Superior, Montana, then set out to put a Bible in every hotel room in America. Since 1908, they’ve distributed more than 1.7 billion Bibles, expanding beyond the U.S. to more than 190 other countries. Passing Them Out
The Gideons don’t go room to room themselves, slipping the books in nightstands like Bible elves. When a hotel opens, local Gideons members will present a Bible to the hotel's general manager in a small ceremony and then give enough books for each room and some extras to the housekeeping staff for distribution. In addition to hotel rooms, the Gideons also give Bibles to military bases, hospitals, nursing homes, prisons and to students on college campuses.
Each Bible handed out is free of charge, and the project is funded entirely by donations to the group. The Gideons will also replace any books that go missing or get worn out, and the group says that the books have a six-year life expectancy, on average. They don’t get bent out of shape when people ignore the “thou shalt not steal” rule when it comes to the Bibles, either. They’d rather you just take the book if you need it that badly.
Based on the success of the Gideons’ Bible project -- the group’s own statistics claim 25% of the people who check into a hotel room will read the Bible placed there -- other religious groups have begun distributing their own free literature to hotels. The Marriott hotel chain, founded by a Mormon, places the The Book of Mormon in many of its rooms, and many hotels also offer Buddhist, Hindu, Christian Scientist or Scientologist books along with the standard Gideon Bible.
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