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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 20:30:45 GMT -5
An Amazing Thought to Ponder : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..." ~ II Corinthians 6:14 To marry outside is like tying a water buffalo to a tree. The buffalo can’t go to work because the other one is standing firm in their human nature.
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 20:34:55 GMT -5
Could ye be equally yoked together with unbelievers?
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Post by withlove on May 23, 2015 20:41:13 GMT -5
At least the tree wouldn't call me a water buffalo.
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 20:43:32 GMT -5
Could ye be unequally yoked together with believers?
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 20:44:34 GMT -5
At least the tree wouldn't call me a water buffalo. Assuming you were the water buffalo.
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Post by withlove on May 23, 2015 20:50:28 GMT -5
At least the tree wouldn't call me a water buffalo. Assuming you were the water buffalo. Good point. I'd be human-natured-tree. Considering what was likely meant by "outsider."
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Post by withlove on May 23, 2015 21:09:01 GMT -5
An Amazing Thought to Ponder : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..." ~ II Corinthians 6:14 To marry outside is like tying a water buffalo to a tree. The buffalo can’t go to work because the other one is standing firm in their human nature. Paul was talking about believers at Corinth NOT having sexual intercourse with temple prostitutes.... II Cor. 6:14-17
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.Wow, really? Can you expound on that a little? I'd never heard that unbelievers referred to temple prostitutes before. Not sure I even heard of temple prostitutes.
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Post by Mary on May 23, 2015 21:09:37 GMT -5
Guess they would call other Christians unbelievers too. So guess what they are saying is don't marry anyone who does not attend their fellowship. Unbelievers are those who don't believe their church is the one and only true church. So if they don't believe that then don't marry them. This is not what the Bible means by an unbeliever.
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 21:12:45 GMT -5
An Amazing Thought to Ponder : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..." ~ II Corinthians 6:14 To marry outside is like tying a water buffalo to a tree. The buffalo can’t go to work because the other one is standing firm in their human nature. Paul was talking about believers at Corinth NOT having sexual intercourse with temple prostitutes.... II Cor. 6:14-17 Where did you get that thought?
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Post by Mary on May 23, 2015 21:26:41 GMT -5
It says unbelievers not prostitutes.
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Post by withlove on May 23, 2015 21:28:03 GMT -5
Paul was talking about believers at Corinth NOT having sexual intercourse with temple prostitutes.... II Cor. 6:14-17 Where did you get that thought?Maybe everyone has heard of temple prostitutes but me...this is what I just found... "A second kind of prostitute, often called a “sacred” or “temple” prostitute, was a female or a male who had sex with worshipers of a god or goddess in a temple. Many of these gods or goddesses were thought to make the land and its people fertile. In Canaan, there were pairs of such gods: Baal and Asherah, and later, Osiris and Isis. The prophet Hosea seems to be warning the people of Israel against having sex with temple prostitutes in rituals honoring these Canaanite fertility gods (Hos 4:10-19). Some time later, Judah’s King Josiah (639–609 B.C.) tore down buildings that housed “male prostitutes” (2 Kgs 23:7) who may have served in the worship of Canaanite gods. In the Jewish Scriptures (Old Testament), Israel’s unfaithfulness is often compared with being a prostitute or chasing after prostitutes (Isa 23:16; Jer 3:6; Ezek 16; Nah 3:4). In the New Testament, the writer of Revelation calls Babylon, meaning the Roman Empire, a shameless prostitute who tempts people and nations into relations with her (Rev 17)." Didn't see a reference there to the Corinthians 6 verse but it clarifies that the temples weren't Jewish. americanbible.org
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 21:34:51 GMT -5
It says unbelievers not prostitutes. Paul was talking believers having sex with harlots... and believers marrying non-believers in Corinth We read in Corinth believers have unbelievers mates in their fellowship/worship meetings in 1 Corinthians 7:12-17
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches.
How do you get "sex with harlots" from that?
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 21:44:16 GMT -5
I Cor. 6:15-16 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”
Why could not the prostitute become saved . . . since they are one body?
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Post by emy on May 23, 2015 21:47:53 GMT -5
How do you get "sex with harlots" from that? Paul was saying don't have sex with pagans temple harlots/prostitutes... But it OK to marry having sex and family with non-harlot/prostitutes wives or husbands.Seems like it means that if you convert to believer but your spouse does not, it's OK to stay together if the unbelieving spouse is OK with it. No reason one who converts has to leave simply because the spouse does not.
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 21:48:36 GMT -5
How do you get "sex with harlots" from that? Paul was saying don't have sex with pagans temple harlots/prostitutes... But it OK to marry having sex and family with non-harlot/prostitutes wives or husbands.
Okay, I get it now. You are mixing two different teachings as one.
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Post by withlove on May 23, 2015 22:59:00 GMT -5
So if the tree is, say, a Methodist, and not a satanic prostitute, it is ok for the water buffalo to marry her?
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Post by Roselyn T on May 23, 2015 23:02:44 GMT -5
An Amazing Thought to Ponder : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..." ~ II Corinthians 6:14 To marry outside is like tying a water buffalo to a tree. The buffalo can’t go to work because the other one is standing firm in their human nature. Thanks for sharing that walker ! Just shows how the workers take a verse out of context to suit what they believe ! Also confirms the exclusiveness that a lot on here try to say doesn't exist !
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:08:27 GMT -5
An Amazing Thought to Ponder : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..." ~ II Corinthians 6:14 To marry outside is like tying a water buffalo to a tree. The buffalo can’t go to work because the other one is standing firm in their human nature. Thanks for sharing that walker ! Just shows how the workers take a verse out of context to suit what they believe ! Also confirms the exclusiveness that a lot on here try to say doesn't exist ! if your married to an unbeliever you truly are unequally yoked and for life, the verse applies to all relationships...
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Post by Roselyn T on May 23, 2015 23:19:06 GMT -5
Wally, who do you see as an un-believer ?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:30:47 GMT -5
Wally, who do you see as an un-believer ? anyone that doesn't believe in Jesus, God or the Holy Spirit...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:37:43 GMT -5
if your married to an unbeliever you truly are unequally yoked and for life, the verse applies to all relationships... I have seen some of these unbelievers husbands and wives profess and died in the faithyes there are some out there that do see the light and get saved because of their spouse introducing them to the truth....
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 23:40:40 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that walker ! Just shows how the workers take a verse out of context to suit what they believe ! Also confirms the exclusiveness that a lot on here try to say doesn't exist ! Not just the workers and the friends but many Christians have taken II Cor. 6:14 out of context also
NathanB, these are two different teachings on two different matters. One is about having sex with temple prostitutes or harlots and the other is marrying a non-believer. The 2x2's might not understand. but the friends and workers do. And those Corinthians were really out there!
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Post by Roselyn T on May 23, 2015 23:48:27 GMT -5
I have seen some of these unbelievers husbands and wives profess and died in the faith yes there are some out there that do see the light and get saved because of their spouse introducing them to the truth.... So what about those that married as "believers" then one stopped believing as far as that the "fellowship" was the only way.
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Post by Greg on May 23, 2015 23:54:39 GMT -5
NathanB, these are two different teachings on two different matters. One is about having sex with temple prostitutes or harlots and the other is marrying a non-believer. The 2x2's might not understand. but the friends and workers do. And those Corinthians were really out there! The 2x2s and the workers, the friends are the SAME group/sect of believers. Yes, they are two different matters! but many of the workers and the friends lump them into ONE II Cor. 6:14 " Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" because they didn't know about some of the believers were having sexual intercourse with the temple pagan prostitutes that Paul was dealing with the culture at the time.
The friends and workers are not the 2x2's. They can be considered the so-called 2x2's. You, NathanB, are a 2x2. I do not know if you are one of the friends and workers. You, NathanB, are mixing the two teachings together.
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Post by emy on May 24, 2015 0:01:04 GMT -5
if your married to an unbeliever you truly are unequally yoked and for life, the verse applies to all relationships... I have seen some of these unbelievers husbands and wives profess and died in the faithOf course some do. But it can be risky.
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Post by Roselyn T on May 24, 2015 0:02:31 GMT -5
I have seen some of these unbelievers husbands and wives profess and died in the faith Of course some do. But it can be risky. What about the risk of marrying a believer who later stops going to meeting Emy ?
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Post by emy on May 24, 2015 0:03:55 GMT -5
yes there are some out there that do see the light and get saved because of their spouse introducing them to the truth.... So what about those that married as "believers" then one stopped believing as far as that the "fellowship" was the only way. Been there, said that - if the one who stoops believing is OK with continuing to live with the believer in marriage, then it is not a problem.
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Post by Roselyn T on May 24, 2015 0:05:38 GMT -5
So it is a risk either way !
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