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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 20, 2015 23:58:38 GMT -5
Nathan, are you sure about this, basketballers do seem abnormally tall and they are very good at putting that ball in a basket from a long way away. This is getting me really worried now.
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Post by snow on Feb 21, 2015 0:10:01 GMT -5
I guess my concern with breeding with these women is that they would carry the reptilian gene pool that God was trying to weed out. So changing who they decided to worship wouldn't address that particular issue. The Hebrews, if they allowed them into their midst and had children with them, would then contaminate their gene pool. God would surely know this, wouldn't he? The virgin women that God allowed the Children of Israel to spare their lives weren't the Nephilim/Reptilian giants demigods race. These women were normal human beings living in the promised land.No, I'm pretty sure they were the offspring of the enemies that God told Israel to kill everything and everyone, except the virgins. If these groups were not the Nephilm then why did God want them annihilated? They were just other tribes trying to survive in the area. It is genocide to kill an entire group of people and God ordered a genocide?
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Post by blacksheep on Feb 21, 2015 7:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Feb 21, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -5
No, I'm pretty sure they were the offspring of the enemies that God told Israel to kill everything and everyone, except the virgins. If these groups were not the Nephilm then why did God want them annihilated? They were just other tribes trying to survive in the area. It is genocide to kill an entire group of people and God ordered a genocide? These people worship Baal as their gods. They were NOT innocent as they look. Look what happened to king Solomon... He married 700 princess of royal bloodline from other nations and 300 concubines as wives and they lead him astray with their idols/Baal gods. They worship Baal/Satan offer human sacrifices to their gods and God did NOT want the children of Israel get mixed up their human sacrifices gods/Baal Satan worship. Baal worship was rooted in sensuality and involved ritualistic prostitution in the temples. At times, appeasing Baal required human sacrifice, usually the firstborn of the one making the sacrifice (Jeremiah 19:5). In Matthew 12:27, Jesus calls Satan “Beelzebub,” linking the devil to Baal-Zebub, a Philistine deity (2 Kings 1:2). The Baalism of the Old Testament were nothing more than demons masquerading as gods, and all idolatry is ultimately devil-worship (1 Corinthians 10:20).
Baal the Life Giver
Baal (ba'al) was an ancient Canaanite and Mesopotamian deity associated with agriculture. He was believed to be the "giver of life" and mankind was dependant upon him for providing what was necessary to sustain the farms, flocks and herds. He was also called the "son of Dagon" (who was in control of the grain), and "Hadad" the storm god who would provide plentiful rains after hearing his voice (thunder).
The Canaanites
The land of Canaan was devoted to the worship of Baal. The Semitic word Baal means "lord" or "master" and the Canaanites believed that Baal was in absolute control over nature and over people. They believed that the only god who was superior to Baal was his father El, but Baal was the principal deity of the land. It was he who was in charge of the rain and the weather, and man's survival was dependent upon Baal's provision.
www.bible-history.com/resource/ff_baal.htm
Yes I recognize that they worshiped a different God than Yahweh. But this is not why you said god needed to annihilate these people. You said it was because they were fallen angels etc. If the above verses were God's instructions of how to make war, he is definitely saying to annihilate all of the people except the virgins. When I said that seemed extreme and not very 'Godly', you explained to me that they were the reptilians and fallen angels and they needed to be exterminated. Yet they were allowed to keep the virgins which would have carried the reptilian DNA and breed with them. That seems to me to defeat the whole reason for the extermination of these people. Now you are saying it was because they worshiped Baal. That means that God wanted the extermination of the other neighboring tribes because they worshiped a god that wasn't him? That is a whole different reason than being reptilian! That means that they should have exterminated the Hindu believers, etc. Why are people not called to do that today if it was necessary in those times. Look at all the religions that don't worship Yahweh. Has he changed his mind about allowing others to live when they don't worship him? Also, it wasn't just the Canaanites that worship Baal but the Hebrews also. He was their God of fertility just the same as the neighboring tribes. Yahweh was their God of War. When they decided to worship only one god, Yahweh, they had quite a battle with their own people to quit worshiping Baal and his female likeness, Astarte. They did not think that Yahweh could help grow the crops, or make couples fertile. It took quite a while to get the Hebrews to exclusively worship Yahweh. So back to the extermination of these nations because they worshiped Baal, that seems immoral if that was the reason.
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2015 18:49:19 GMT -5
I guess my concern with breeding with these women is that they would carry the reptilian gene pool that God was trying to weed out. So changing who they decided to worship wouldn't address that particular issue. The Hebrews, if they allowed them into their midst and had children with them, would then contaminate their gene pool. God would surely know this, wouldn't he? I wonder why this non-human DNA has never been noticed anywhere.
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Post by rational on Feb 21, 2015 20:50:12 GMT -5
I wonder why this non-human DNA has never been noticed anywhere. The non-human DNA had been recognized and KNOWN for thousands of years in the Old and New Testament... Come on NathanB. DNA was not discovered until after the middle of the 19th century. Biblical understanding of reproduction was that the male delivered a complete human to the woman, Your saying that DNA was known about in the OT is just silly. The human genome has been mapped. The insertion of alien DNA into the gene pool would be noticed. The question is, why hasn't it been observed?
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Post by snow on Feb 21, 2015 23:05:38 GMT -5
1) Yes I recognize that they worshiped a different God than Yahweh. But this is not why you said god needed to annihilate these people. You said it was because they were fallen angels etc. If the above verses were God's instructions of how to make war, he is definitely saying to annihilate all of the people except the virgins. When I said that seemed extreme and not very 'Godly', you explained to me that they were the reptilians and fallen angels and they needed to be exterminated. Yet they were allowed to keep the virgins which would have carried the reptilian DNA and breed with them. That seems to me to defeat the whole reason for the extermination of these people. Let me try to explain one more time... God said to annihilate or utterly destroy the Nephilim amd their descendant Giants race of men, women, children and animals! There were other normal human races living in the land also. These race of people were NOT to be utterly destroyed. Many of them were welcome to live among the children of Israel.2) Now you are saying it was because they worshiped Baal. That means that God wanted the extermination of the other neighboring tribes because they worshiped a god that wasn't him? That is a whole different reason than being reptilian! That means that they should have exterminated the Hindu believers, etc. Why are people not called to do that today if it was necessary in those times. Look at all the religions that don't worship Yahweh. Has he changed his mind about allowing others to live when they don't worship him? ~~ In the Old Testament the Nephilims the giants race were occupying the Promised land where God has planned to set up His eternal kingdom. The Nephilim giant race had to be annihilated and other races had to be driven out from the promised land to usher in the Messiah, Savior of the world. Christ kingdom will be set up in Jerusalem. Christ has come and accomplished His redemption there is no need for killing. Jesus 1st coming is to SAVE lives NOT to destroy. 3) Also, it wasn't just the Canaanites that worship Baal but the Hebrews also. He was their God of fertility just the same as the neighboring tribes. Yahweh was their God of War. When they decided to worship only one god, Yahweh, they had quite a battle with their own people to quit worshiping Baal and his female likeness, Astarte. They did not think that Yahweh could help grow the crops, or make couples fertile. It took quite a while to get the Hebrews to exclusively worship Yahweh. So back to the extermination of these nations because they worshiped Baal, that seems immoral if that was the reason. ~~ Many of these ex-Baal worshipers lived among the Jews NOT by choice! The children of Israel had conquered many different races of people so, now they became slaves, in their hearts they still worshipped Baal. God Yahweh had shown the Nephilim and their giant race descendants, and Baal worshipers that He is stronger than them all through Jews Exodus out of Egypt, the 10 plagues, Red Sea parted, and how they destroyed many of their enemies as they were headed toward the promised land.
Many of these foreigners who came willingly and unwillingly lived among the children of Israel and some of them became David mighty warriors. So you are telling me that the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and the Jebusites were all reptilian tribes, fallen angel types? Okay. That's a lot of genocide though and all because they lived in the land that the Hebrews believed God gave to them. Only these tribes were the ones that God told them to 'not leave anything breathing'. The rest you killed the men but could plunder anything else.
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Post by rational on Feb 22, 2015 0:00:32 GMT -5
Are you asking why the scientists in our generation haven't noticed or observed the insertion of alien DNA in human genes pool? Any generation. No mention of it anywhere.
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Post by rational on Feb 22, 2015 11:40:29 GMT -5
Any generation. No mention of it anywhere. You're not looking in the right places. You don't have to look anywhere. DNA testing has become routine. Of the millions of DNA tests done no one has discovered alien DNA. If there were people with some strange genetic material people would remark about it. NathanB, again, you are making claims but there is no verifiable proof. Just people who are making a living from the gullible.
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Post by rational on Feb 22, 2015 13:51:57 GMT -5
You don't have to look anywhere. DNA testing has become routine. Of the millions of DNA tests done no one has discovered alien DNA. If there were people with some strange genetic material people would remark about it. NathanB, again, you are making claims but there is no verifiable proof. Just people who are making a living from the gullible. You have been living in the woods too long, Rational. When I get back from meeting I will show you more evidences. I know you're not going to believe it but maybe others will.You should be able to show remains of a being that has the alien DNA. Those you showed in South America were simply deformed/premature beings with 100% human DNA. I have a feeling you are going to post more YouTube home made videos, single author writings that have no peer review, etc. If you want people to believe provide some verifiable evidence. It is like the BS you posted about Valiant Thor. He has six fingers on his hands and then post a photo that clearly shows a normal human hand. You posted a diary of Byrd's flight near the north pole that remarked that could see the ground. NathanB, if you cannot provide some evidence that can be tested and verified, or evidence that has been tested and verified, it is not worth posting anything. Having someone making unverifiable claims on a Youtube video carries all the weight of Donald Duck telling about the money his uncle has in his vault.
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Post by rational on Feb 22, 2015 15:55:29 GMT -5
Here are actual videos pictures one of the ETs races... Does he look human to you, Rational? I have seen videos of Godzilla that were a much higher quality and I still don't believe in Godzilla. I just checked my dictionary and right there next to gullible was your photo!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 16:04:24 GMT -5
Scripture talks about Lucifer being the Prince of the power of the air. It also says we fight not against flesh and blood but principalities and powers, spirits of wickedness in high places. Understanding what that means is of the essence. Bob I assume is refering to the richest families/the illuminati..they are above the governments. No. I was referring to the individuals whose personal wealth equals that of 50 percent of the whole world's population. Money is just a civilized form of power. Yeh man, it is so civilized it talks, haven't you heard that money talks?
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 24, 2015 0:54:11 GMT -5
Here are actual videos pictures one of the ETs races... Does he look human to you, Rational? I have seen videos of Godzilla that were a much higher quality and I still don't believe in Godzilla. I just checked my dictionary and right there next to gullible was your photo!
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 24, 2015 1:04:23 GMT -5
These people worship Baal as their gods. They were NOT innocent as they look. Look what happened to king Solomon... He married 700 princess of royal bloodline from other nations and 300 concubines as wives and they lead him astray with their idols/Baal gods. They worship Baal/Satan offer human sacrifices to their gods and God did NOT want the children of Israel get mixed up their human sacrifices gods/Baal Satan worship. Baal worship was rooted in sensuality and involved ritualistic prostitution in the temples. At times, appeasing Baal required human sacrifice, usually the firstborn of the one making the sacrifice (Jeremiah 19:5). In Matthew 12:27, Jesus calls Satan “Beelzebub,” linking the devil to Baal-Zebub, a Philistine deity (2 Kings 1:2). The Baalism of the Old Testament were nothing more than demons masquerading as gods, and all idolatry is ultimately devil-worship (1 Corinthians 10:20).
Baal the Life Giver
Baal (ba'al) was an ancient Canaanite and Mesopotamian deity associated with agriculture. He was believed to be the "giver of life" and mankind was dependant upon him for providing what was necessary to sustain the farms, flocks and herds. He was also called the "son of Dagon" (who was in control of the grain), and "Hadad" the storm god who would provide plentiful rains after hearing his voice (thunder).
The Canaanites
The land of Canaan was devoted to the worship of Baal. The Semitic word Baal means "lord" or "master" and the Canaanites believed that Baal was in absolute control over nature and over people. They believed that the only god who was superior to Baal was his father El, but Baal was the principal deity of the land. It was he who was in charge of the rain and the weather, and man's survival was dependent upon Baal's provision.
www.bible-history.com/resource/ff_baal.htm
Yes I recognize that they worshiped a different God than Yahweh. But this is not why you said god needed to annihilate these people. You said it was because they were fallen angels etc. If the above verses were God's instructions of how to make war, he is definitely saying to annihilate all of the people except the virgins. When I said that seemed extreme and not very 'Godly', you explained to me that they were the reptilians and fallen angels and they needed to be exterminated. Yet they were allowed to keep the virgins which would have carried the reptilian DNA and breed with them. That seems to me to defeat the whole reason for the extermination of these people. Now you are saying it was because they worshiped Baal. That means that God wanted the extermination of the other neighboring tribes because they worshiped a god that wasn't him? That is a whole different reason than being reptilian! That means that they should have exterminated the Hindu believers, etc. Why are people not called to do that today if it was necessary in those times. Look at all the religions that don't worship Yahweh. Has he changed his mind about allowing others to live when they don't worship him? Also, it wasn't just the Canaanites that worship Baal but the Hebrews also. He was their God of fertility just the same as the neighboring tribes. Yahweh was their God of War. When they decided to worship only one god, Yahweh, they had quite a battle with their own people to quit worshiping Baal and his female likeness, Astarte. They did not think that Yahweh could help grow the crops, or make couples fertile. It took quite a while to get the Hebrews to exclusively worship Yahweh. So back to the extermination of these nations because they worshiped Baal, that seems immoral if that was the reason. Yes!
Nathan you keep switching the reasons!
Which do you believe is true?
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Post by terfly4fun on Mar 2, 2015 20:53:04 GMT -5
How powerful is Satan in today's world? Didn't Jesus Christ refer to Satan as being "the ruler of the world?" Didn't Jesus Christ say Satan is the one whom mankind in general obeys by heeding his urgings to ignore GOD'S requirements? (John 14:30; Eph. 2:2) Doesn't the Bible also call Satan " ... the GOD of this system of things ...?" Who is honored by the religious practices of people who adhere to this system of things? 2 COR 4:4; 1 Cor 4:4; 1 Cor 10:20.
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Post by rational on Mar 2, 2015 21:44:07 GMT -5
How powerful is Satan in today's world? Didn't Jesus Christ refer to Satan as being "the ruler of the world?" Didn't Jesus Christ say Satan is the one whom mankind in general obeys by heeding his urgings to ignore GOD'S requirements? (John 14:30; Eph. 2:2) Doesn't the Bible also call Satan " ... the GOD of this system of things ...?" Who is honored by the religious practices of people who adhere to this system of things? 2 COR 4:4; 1 Cor 4:4; 1 Cor 10:20. Your references are all written by Paul.
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Post by emy on Mar 2, 2015 22:38:06 GMT -5
How powerful is Satan in today's world? Didn't Jesus Christ refer to Satan as being "the ruler of the world?" Didn't Jesus Christ say Satan is the one whom mankind in general obeys by heeding his urgings to ignore GOD'S requirements? (John 14:30; Eph. 2:2) Doesn't the Bible also call Satan " ... the GOD of this system of things ...?" Who is honored by the religious practices of people who adhere to this system of things? 2 COR 4:4; 1 Cor 4:4; 1 Cor 10:20. Your references are all written by Paul. Something Jesus said: John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 2, 2015 22:58:26 GMT -5
Your references are all written by Paul. Something Jesus said: John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. Emy, you are right.
Jesus did not say "Satan is the one whom mankind in general obeys by heeding his urgings to ignore GOD'S requirements"
King James Bible: John 14:30
Jesus said "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
He does not indicate who is the prince of the world .
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