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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 20, 2014 21:46:45 GMT -5
Thank for your observation, looks like you have a serious attitude problem, I have been observing your postings, not very civil and nice at all. If my comments appears to be condescending to you, yours appear to be insulting, rude and bitter, get over it, or it will destroy you. By the way, it looks like you are not using your brains wisely; get some counseling before it is too late, if it is not already too late. ps. I might have accepted such a response from Mary, but certainly not from you. We may need to look up the difference in meaning between "assertive" and just plain "insulting". Some people are insulted by assertive behaviour. In this case when they expect people to believe what they say and they get questioned on it. I would imagine that it must be very difficult for some people who have never experienced in real life, good lively debate about a subject and been questioned on their stance. In both my work environment which is rather rough and raw, spades are called spades even though some of them weigh a 100 tonne or more. In my private life the people I mix with usually university educated will not let rubbish go by unchallenged. Living in an environment such as the 2x2's where questioning was frowned upon, rubbish got past as truth, no one questioned unless they desired an exit ticket. The situation today is the result of that. Ironic really as WI was one who questioned the status quo.
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Post by hberry on Dec 20, 2014 21:47:38 GMT -5
Good on you partaker. Read up the meaning of the word testimony. Apply the meaning of the word to what is spoken in a fellowship meeting. Mostly but not always the word testimony is used wrongly and it would be better to use the term "thoughts that have helped me" Mary is quite right in her observation about the wrong use of the word. As for attitude I'm pleased I have one. No longer will I stand for the rubbish that some of the preachers and the friends spout. I will call you on it every time I see it. As you spout lots of rubbish you will get your fair share of being called on it. I think for the most part, the fellowship uses the phrase 'when I first heard the Truth,' 'when the workers first came to our parts', or 'when I stood up' to mean what the rest of Christendom means when they say 'give your testimony.' It's just lingo, and as long as everyone using the lingo understands the meaning, all is well. I suspect that the friends, if they were to move in Christian circles outside of the fellowship and were asked about their testimony, would answer appropriately. The questioner might not understand the form of the answer, however, if the friend used insider lingo.
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Post by Mary on Dec 20, 2014 23:12:04 GMT -5
Not at all contentious and certainly not splitting hairs. But your comment is certainly condescending. Just apply some grey matter to the topic rather than paraphrasing whatever you have been told by the workers. That goes for you too Virgo. God gave you brains, use them. Thank for your observation, looks like you have a serious attitude problem, I have been observing your postings, not very civil and nice at all. If my comments appears to be condescending to you, yours appear to be insulting, rude and bitter, get over it, or it will destroy you. By the way, it looks like you are not using your brains wisely; get some counseling before it is too late, if it is not already too late. ps. I might have accepted such a response from Mary, but certainly not from you. A agree with curlywurly. There was nothing contentious about my post, however, yours partaker, was an attempt at being contentious which until now I found better to ignore. Like curly noticed, I've also noticed your condescending attitude at times too. Bob, testimony in a court of law is not the same as 'in the religious sense'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestimonyReligion[edit] Christians in general use the term "testify" or "to give one's testimony" to mean "the story of how one became a Christian"; And commonly it may refer to a specific event in a Christian's life in which they believe God has done something deemed particularly worth sharing. Christians often give their testimony at their own baptism or at evangelistic events. In the current age of the Internet, many Christians have also placed their testimonies on the internet. Agree hberry, those in meetings talk about when they met the workers. Those in churches talk about when they 'came to the Lord'.
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Post by slowtosee on Dec 20, 2014 23:24:19 GMT -5
Good post, hberry. As an outsider, and professing at 18 years old it took me a while to learn a new culture and religious lingo. After the tested convention gospel meeting where I professed, they told me I was to take part in fellowship meeting next Sunday. Ok right there that sentence makes very little sense to an outsider. What Ya testing? How does one take part? From the platform? Stood up? Workers? Go for a walk? Resting? Giving testimony? My companion and I, special meetings, preps, worker cabins, sister worker, brother worker, overseer, the friends Etc etc etc. All have unique, albeit easy to learn and understand but not automatically understood by people not familiar with the jargon. It is a unique culture, and languageof one of many many thousands more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 23:31:00 GMT -5
Thank for your observation, looks like you have a serious attitude problem, I have been observing your postings, not very civil and nice at all. If my comments appears to be condescending to you, yours appear to be insulting, rude and bitter, get over it, or it will destroy you. By the way, it looks like you are not using your brains wisely; get some counseling before it is too late, if it is not already too late. ps. I might have accepted such a response from Mary, but certainly not from you. A agree with curlywurly. There was nothing contentious about my post, however, yours partaker, was an attempt at being contentious which until now I found better to ignore. Like curly noticed, I've also noticed your condescending attitude at times too. Bob, testimony in a court of law is not the same as 'in the religious sense'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestimonyReligion[edit] Christians in general use the term "testify" or "to give one's testimony" to mean "the story of how one became a Christian"; And commonly it may refer to a specific event in a Christian's life in which they believe God has done something deemed particularly worth sharing. Christians often give their testimony at their own baptism or at evangelistic events. In the current age of the Internet, many Christians have also placed their testimonies on the internet. Agree hberry, those in meetings talk about when they met the workers. Those in churches talk about when they 'came to the Lord'. watch out partaker the heavies have come out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 4:34:01 GMT -5
Good on you partaker. Read up the meaning of the word testimony. Apply the meaning of the word to what is spoken in a fellowship meeting. Mostly but not always the word testimony is used wrongly and it would be better to use the term "thoughts that have helped me" Mary is quite right in her observation about the wrong use of the word. As for attitude I'm pleased I have one. No longer will I stand for the rubbish that some of the preachers and the friends spout. I will call you on it every time I see it. As you spout lots of rubbish you will get your fair share of being called on it. In this changing world of ours, What may be regarded as rubbish to many folks is very much welcomed by the vulnerable and needy folks, those who exalt themselves above being vulnerable and needy may be led into a false security and may be abased. I have no axes to grind, I tell it as I see it. Re- Read my posts, when I see wrong in the fellowship I speak out against it most strongly.When I think that posters are a little harsh or unreasonable, I express my feelings and opinions, that is me. Some of my postings are meant to be light hearted and designed to be amusing, some see the funny side others don't, that is life. I have been participating on this forum and the older version from 2003 and have seen much rougher fights, with much tougher opponents and survived, lived to see another day. This one pales in comparison. Everyone has an opinion, but it does not mean that it is necessarily correct or the only one because we don't know everything. No Man Is An Island.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 4:44:04 GMT -5
Thank for your observation, looks like you have a serious attitude problem, I have been observing your postings, not very civil and nice at all. If my comments appears to be condescending to you, yours appear to be insulting, rude and bitter, get over it, or it will destroy you. By the way, it looks like you are not using your brains wisely; get some counseling before it is too late, if it is not already too late. ps. I might have accepted such a response from Mary, but certainly not from you. We may need to look up the difference in meaning between "assertive" and just plain "insulting". Yes Bob it all depends on which side of the fence you are on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 5:48:59 GMT -5
Good on you partaker. Read up the meaning of the word testimony. Apply the meaning of the word to what is spoken in a fellowship meeting. Mostly but not always the word testimony is used wrongly and it would be better to use the term "thoughts that have helped me" Mary is quite right in her observation about the wrong use of the word. As for attitude I'm pleased I have one. No longer will I stand for the rubbish that some of the preachers and the friends spout. I will call you on it every time I see it. As you spout lots of rubbish you will get your fair share of being called on it. Well, we've been looking to hire someone at our house to take out the rubbish. Anyway, concerning testimony. The concrete meaning of testimony is what is actually said -- in a courtroom they don't expect you to go out and reenact your testimony to convince people you were telling the truth. The metaphorical meaning of testimony is something like living up to the claims you made when you are speaking. Unless you make a claim to be/do something, what you are/do doesn't make a testimony about it. Uhhh. I can't stand it when people don't understand metaphors. Oh come on Bob! Be fair, Some of us don't even understand anything about metaphors.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 7:04:58 GMT -5
A agree with curlywurly. There was nothing contentious about my post, however, yours partaker, was an attempt at being contentious which until now I found better to ignore. Like curly noticed, I've also noticed your condescending attitude at times too. Bob, testimony in a court of law is not the same as 'in the religious sense'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestimonyReligion[edit] Christians in general use the term "testify" or "to give one's testimony" to mean "the story of how one became a Christian"; And commonly it may refer to a specific event in a Christian's life in which they believe God has done something deemed particularly worth sharing. Christians often give their testimony at their own baptism or at evangelistic events. In the current age of the Internet, many Christians have also placed their testimonies on the internet. Agree hberry, those in meetings talk about when they met the workers. Those in churches talk about when they 'came to the Lord'. watch out partaker the heavies have come out Well a better idea would be to go on a diet or go to the gymn and work it off, and not come out to beat up on a poor old bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 13:19:22 GMT -5
Thank for your observation, looks like you have a serious attitude problem, I have been observing your postings, not very civil and nice at all. If my comments appears to be condescending to you, yours appear to be insulting, rude and bitter, get over it, or it will destroy you. By the way, it looks like you are not using your brains wisely; get some counseling before it is too late, if it is not already too late. ps. I might have accepted such a response from Mary, but certainly not from you. A agree with curlywurly. There was nothing contentious about my post, however, yours partaker, was an attempt at being contentious which until now I found better to ignore. Like curly noticed, I've also noticed your condescending attitude at times too. Bob, testimony in a court of law is not the same as 'in the religious sense'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestimonyReligion[edit] Christians in general use the term "testify" or "to give one's testimony" to mean "the story of how one became a Christian"; And commonly it may refer to a specific event in a Christian's life in which they believe God has done something deemed particularly worth sharing. Christians often give their testimony at their own baptism or at evangelistic events. In the current age of the Internet, many Christians have also placed their testimonies on the internet. Agree hberry, those in meetings talk about when they met the workers. Those in churches talk about when they 'came to the Lord'. there are a number of definitions of "testimony" here is another one: In law and in religion, testimony is a solemn attestation as to the truth of a matter.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 21, 2014 18:51:43 GMT -5
Well, we've been looking to hire someone at our house to take out the rubbish. Anyway, concerning testimony. The concrete meaning of testimony is what is actually said -- in a courtroom they don't expect you to go out and reenact your testimony to convince people you were telling the truth. The metaphorical meaning of testimony is something like living up to the claims you made when you are speaking. Unless you make a claim to be/do something, what you are/do doesn't make a testimony about it. Uhhh. I can't stand it when people don't understand metaphors. Oh come on Bob! Be fair, Some of us don't even understand anything about metaphors. Why would someone not understand ..... ooops
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 4:10:58 GMT -5
Oh come on Bob! Be fair, Some of us don't even understand anything about metaphors. Why would someone not understand ..... ooops I can't answer that, and yet they are a few spiritual metaphors in the scriptures, like " I am the light of the world," " I am the salt of the earth." Can you remember any others? I wonder who is the "bread of life?"
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 22, 2014 5:07:21 GMT -5
Why would someone not understand ..... ooops I can't answer that, and yet they are a few spiritual metaphors in the scriptures, like " I am the light of the world," " I am the salt of the earth." Can you remember any others? I wonder who is the "bread of life?" My favorite is: (someone) washed his feet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 5:49:45 GMT -5
I can't answer that, and yet they are a few spiritual metaphors in the scriptures, like " I am the light of the world," " I am the salt of the earth." Can you remember any others? I wonder who is the "bread of life?" My favorite is: (someone) washed his feet. Well, there you have it, brother. The emblems, bread = body of Christ, wine = blood of Christ.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 22, 2014 18:08:30 GMT -5
My favorite is: (someone) washed his feet. Well, there you have it, brother. The emblems, bread = body of Christ, wine = blood of Christ. There are translations, aren't they.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 18:29:13 GMT -5
Well, there you have it, brother. The emblems, bread = body of Christ, wine = blood of Christ. There are translations, aren't they. Representations too, i.e. Representations that signify, my translations that signify explicitly rather than implicitly.
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