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Post by What Hat on Nov 27, 2014 10:19:59 GMT -5
The fact that the friends have this expression, "divided home", is a problem in itself. My wife left meeting before I did, and the fact we then had a "divided home" was the reason our monthly Wednesday Bible study was pulled. At least, that was the stated reason. But here is an example of the kind of conversation I had with one or another of our (non-meeting) friends on more than one occasion around that time. Me: "Yes, I left the home church because they had issues with us as a divided home, among other things." -- Laughter --- Me: "What's so funny?" (Non-meeting) Friend: "The term 'divided home' sounds so weird when you're talking about you and <my wife's name>". Yeah, I have to admit that a marriage of almost 40 years being considered a "divided home" by a church is just more than a little strange. Time to retire this turkey: "divided home". The expression "divided home" is not unique to the 2x2s. In fact, Hilary Clinton during one of her interviews said that she lived in a divided home -- She was one denomination and Bill was another denomination. I think what makes it so common an expression among the 2x2s is because they consider it a problem-causing complication and thus gets more attention than among some other groups. When your husband is getting BJs from his secretary, yeah, it's a divided home.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 27, 2014 20:51:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't that depend more on who the worker was than who the elder was? You could have the following scenarios: 1. An uncontrolling worker and an uncontrolling elder. 2. An uncontrolling worker and a controlling elder. 3. A controlling worker and an uncontrolling elder. 4. A controlling worker and a controlling elder. Its the last combination that can do a lot of damage. So you think that an uncontrolling elder can outsmart a controlling worker?
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 27, 2014 20:58:18 GMT -5
The expression "divided home" is not unique to the 2x2s. In fact, Hilary Clinton during one of her interviews said that she lived in a divided home -- She was one denomination and Bill was another denomination. I think what makes it so common an expression among the 2x2s is because they consider it a problem-causing complication and thus gets more attention than among some other groups. Yes Bob, that thought has ran through my mind also. The problem causing complications could very well have something to the lack of free access to " divided homes." It is my belief that workers don't feel as confortable visiting, staying and over-nighting in divided homes as they would in homes that are not divided. So they might feel that a divided home would be one less home that would be open and available to accommodate them. That's just my feeling, but I could be wrong. A specific case comes to my mind. A good friend of mine is a practicing witch. After we met, I discovered that her step-daughter is professing in another state, and some of the workers have on occasion not wanted to be in the step-daughter's home when the witch was there. More than once the older couple has arrived in the step-daughter's town and had to take a motel room until the workers decided to move on.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 27, 2014 21:03:47 GMT -5
The fact is that no special amount of spying or record keeping is required to know who are the attendance laggards. I mean, in a church where 95% of the people attend 100% of the meetings, any lapses along that line are quite noticeable and known by everyone. In my experience meeting attendance is not the most critical of reporting to the workers. A disparaging remark about an unnamed worker to a supposed confidential elder can get you booted, if not sooner, later after more evidence against you can be found.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 27, 2014 21:08:25 GMT -5
The expression "divided home" is not unique to the 2x2s. In fact, Hilary Clinton during one of her interviews said that she lived in a divided home -- She was one denomination and Bill was another denomination. I think what makes it so common an expression among the 2x2s is because they consider it a problem-causing complication and thus gets more attention than among some other groups. When your husband is getting BJs from his secretary, yeah, it's a divided home. So which denomination objects to BJs?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 4:07:21 GMT -5
The fact is that no special amount of spying or record keeping is required to know who are the attendance laggards. I mean, in a church where 95% of the people attend 100% of the meetings, any lapses along that line are quite noticeable and known by everyone. In my experience meeting attendance is not the most critical of reporting to the workers. A disparaging remark about an unnamed worker to a supposed confidential elder can get you booted, if not sooner, later after more evidence against you can be found. God has all the evidence against us or for us and He will make the judgement on us, so do not be too overtly concerned about man's judgements, they can be very unfair, prejudiced and biased. Is missing meetings a spiritual crime? People miss meetings for various reasons. I thinks it is healthy to take a break from meetings occasionally and serve God in the secret place and escape the same old same, same old repetitive stuff from some folks which is far from edifying. Missing meetings should not be interpreted as abandoning God. Some folks may choose to assemble themselves with other believers in another church setting occasionally where Jesus is in the midst of them. Being booted can be a blessing in disguise too, it might enhance spiritual growth, depending on what you are booted for. It is sometimes very enlightening to have a different perspective, even in spiritual matters, Jesus is perfect not any particular religious organization although some regard themselves as being perfect. As I grow older, I am becoming much wiser in certain matters and it is my belief that it is a blessing from God pertaining to an increase in Heavenly wisdom, to discern what is acceptable to Him, how to please Him and not necessarily how to please man in any spiritual matters organizational wise.
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