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Post by matisse on Nov 21, 2014 10:55:49 GMT -5
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Post by matisse on Nov 21, 2014 11:27:12 GMT -5
I attended Francis’ funeral. I thought Barry did quite a nice job of leading the service - remembering Francis and Joe, whom he had known since they first immigrated to the US in the early ‘60’s, and offering a message of comfort to their surviving children and grandchildren, none of whom profess. I listened for any hints of exclusivity or notes of “preachiness”….I detected none.
I know that some of the friends and local workers…and even not-so-local workers, had continued to visit Francis regularly long after she stopped being able to use language or recognize even her own children.
(...and long since she might have written a check.)
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Post by Gene on Nov 21, 2014 18:02:25 GMT -5
I attended Francis’ funeral. I thought Barry did quite a nice job of leading the service - remembering Francis and Joe, whom he had known since they first immigrated to the US in the early ‘60’s, and offering a message of comfort to their surviving children and grandchildren, none of whom profess. I listened for any hints of exclusivity or notes of “preachiness”….I detected none. I know that some of the friends and local workers…and even not-so-local workers, had continued to visit Francis regularly long after she stopped being able to use language or recognize even her own children. (...and long since she might have written a check.)matisse, I'm interested in knowing more about how Barry handled the message of comfort. Not fault-finding, here, at all, nor looking for a reason to criticize -- just genuinely interested in the basis of that message. I was his companion for awhile and I found him quite the interesting person -- interesting balance of priorities; sensitivity to peoples' situations; respect for the authority of the ministry; preaching salvation through faith in JC, etc. And, so, I'm curious how he delivered a message of comfort: Was it based on an assurance of salvation through Christ and an afterlife, or the more secular comfort of the memories of love and a life well lived, or something else? Thx - G
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Post by matisse on Nov 21, 2014 20:00:56 GMT -5
I attended Francis’ funeral. I thought Barry did quite a nice job of leading the service - remembering Francis and Joe, whom he had known since they first immigrated to the US in the early ‘60’s, and offering a message of comfort to their surviving children and grandchildren, none of whom profess. I listened for any hints of exclusivity or notes of “preachiness”….I detected none. I know that some of the friends and local workers…and even not-so-local workers, had continued to visit Francis regularly long after she stopped being able to use language or recognize even her own children. (...and long since she might have written a check.)matisse, I'm interested in knowing more about how Barry handled the message of comfort. Not fault-finding, here, at all, nor looking for a reason to criticize -- just genuinely interested in the basis of that message. I was his companion for awhile and I found him quite the interesting person -- interesting balance of priorities; sensitivity to peoples' situations; respect for the authority of the ministry; preaching salvation through faith in JC, etc. And, so, I'm curious how he delivered a message of comfort: Was it based on an assurance of salvation through Christ and an afterlife, or the more secular comfort of the memories of love and a life well lived, or something else? Thx - G Barry spoke of Joe and Francis' faith, and of their hope, but not in any way that would suggest that everyone should be that way. As I remember, the words of comfort to the family were more about the memories of love and of a life well lived. I think it was in prayer that he asked that angels would provide comfort to the family. I don't know that I had ever heard anything quite like that before in a meeting or at a funeral. It seemed fitting to me. He also led my father's funeral, and while he spoke at length from the Bible and about my father's faith, at no time during the service did I feel like I was was being preached at. Some of the others who had a part in the funeral went way out of their usual way to follow suit. I really appreciated that.
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Post by Gene on Nov 21, 2014 20:04:13 GMT -5
matisse, I'm interested in knowing more about how Barry handled the message of comfort. Not fault-finding, here, at all, nor looking for a reason to criticize -- just genuinely interested in the basis of that message. I was his companion for awhile and I found him quite the interesting person -- interesting balance of priorities; sensitivity to peoples' situations; respect for the authority of the ministry; preaching salvation through faith in JC, etc. And, so, I'm curious how he delivered a message of comfort: Was it based on an assurance of salvation through Christ and an afterlife, or the more secular comfort of the memories of love and a life well lived, or something else? Thx - G Barry spoke of Joe and Francis' faith, and of their hope, but not in any way that would suggest that everyone should be that way. As I remember, the words of comfort to the family were more about the memories of love and of a life well lived. I think it was in prayer that he asked that angels would provide comfort to the family. I don't know that I had ever heard anything quite like that before in a meeting or at a funeral. It seemed fitting to me. He also led my father's funeral, and while he spoke at length from the Bible and about my father's faith, at no time during the service did I feel like I was was being preached at. Some of the others who had a part in the funeral went way out of their usual way to follow suit. I really appreciated that. That's great -- very happy to hear it was fitting and comforting to those who were there!
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