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Post by snow on Nov 24, 2014 12:22:12 GMT -5
I would like you to photoshop of Val Thor standing Next to his wife and two kids. I have been asking Val to provide his Family picture of 2014 and he has disappeared. That Val, he's a sneaky devil.
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Post by Commander Valiant Thor on Nov 24, 2014 13:40:27 GMT -5
That Val, he's a sneaky devil. hahaha... Snow, but don't call TMB Val thor is the sneaky Devil... because he will ZAP you with his spaceship laster! NathanB, Is this considered earthly humor? Commander Valiant Thor
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Post by faune on Nov 24, 2014 14:02:04 GMT -5
How interesting to discover that Cmdr Val Thor and family lived in Connecticut back in the 1956 in a rented home. His wife and two daughters look really nice. In answer to Nathan's question, obviously he was taking their picture and that's why Val is not in the photo, IMHO?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:50:51 GMT -5
i thought they were neither given or taken in marriage in heaven so whats an angel doing with a wife and two kids?
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Post by Commander Valiant Thor on Nov 24, 2014 16:42:47 GMT -5
How interesting to discover that Cmdr Val Thor and family lived in Connecticut back in the 1956 in a rented home. His wife and two daughters look really nice. In answer to Nathan's question, obviously he was taking their picture and that's why Val is not in the photo, IMHO? ;)
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hahaha.. I have asked a request from Val, to send to us/TMB just ONE picture of him standing with his lovely wife and two daughters but this is his reply.. NathanB, I have seen the request. The technology we currently use for images cannot be displayed on the equipment you are using. I have never been in the habit of taking and keeping photos of myself. Perhaps you could request a photo from my wife or daughters. I doubt, after the way you have been acting, that they will be very open to the request. So, what Val is SAYING, he CAN'T produce a Single picture of him taken with his wife and two daughters.... because he doesn't have it, he is a fraud NOT Dr. Frank, who has known the REAL Valiant Thor for nearly 50 yrs. NathanB, What I said was that the format images are currently stored in cannot be displayed on the equipment you are using. I have attempted to convert the one image I have of the four of us but it cannot use the full 4-d image information so I had to select the clearest frame from the array. I don't know any other way to get all of the frames to display at the same time to produce the clear image I have. You can see I am standing with my two daughters and my wife is sitting in the chair due to a twisted ankle from hiking the day before.
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Post by snow on Nov 24, 2014 16:57:48 GMT -5
That Val, he's a sneaky devil. hahaha... Snow, but don't call TMB Val thor is the sneaky Devil... because he will ZAP you with his spaceship laster! I'm quicker than a speeding laser !!! If the Val thor you talk about is supposed to be good why would he zap me with a spaceship laser?
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Post by snow on Nov 24, 2014 17:01:31 GMT -5
i thought they were neither given or taken in marriage in heaven so whats an angel doing with a wife and two kids? Valid question wally. Well Nathan?
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Post by snow on Nov 24, 2014 17:03:48 GMT -5
hahaha.. I have asked a request from Val, to send to us/TMB just ONE picture of him standing with his lovely wife and two daughters but this is his reply.. So, what Val is SAYING, he CAN'T produce a Single picture of him taken with his wife and two daughters.... because he doesn't have it, he is a fraud NOT Dr. Frank, who has known the REAL Valiant Thor for nearly 50 yrs. NathanB, What I said was that the format images are currently stored in cannot be displayed on the equipment you are using. I have attempted to convert the one image I have of the four of us but it cannot use the full 4-d image information so I had to select the clearest frame from the array. I don't know any other way to get all of the frames to display at the same time to produce the clear image I have. You can see I am standing with my two daughters and my wife is sitting in the chair due to a twisted ankle from hiking the day before.
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Well I don't know. Where is the 6 fingers? That guy only has 5. It's a very clear picture when you wear the right glasses. Nice of you and your family Cmdr Thor
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Post by Commander Valiant Thor on Nov 24, 2014 17:03:49 GMT -5
hahaha... Snow, but don't call TMB Val thor is the sneaky Devil... because he will ZAP you with his spaceship laster! I'm quicker than a speeding laser !!! If the Val thor you talk about is supposed to be good why would he zap me with a spaceship laser? snow, He wouldn't. In fact, he would find it almost impossible to bring harm to another. NathanB has been reading so much pushed out by Frank Stranges, Phil S, and others that he has little knowledge of anything beyond his grasp. Cheers, Commander Valiant Thor
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Post by snow on Nov 24, 2014 17:32:22 GMT -5
I'm quicker than a speeding laser !!! If the Val thor you talk about is supposed to be good why would he zap me with a spaceship laser? snow, He wouldn't. In fact, he would find it almost impossible to bring harm to another. NathanB has been reading so much pushed out by Frank Stranges, Phil S, and others that he has little knowledge of anything beyond his grasp. Cheers, Commander Valiant Thor That's what I thought! I'm sure you knew I was joking about you being a sneaky devil too, don't you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 18:06:53 GMT -5
Mr Barker, now I can understand just why Mr Thor is upset at your lack of respect for him. You are now displaying the same ungraceful attitude towards myself. I have one son and one daughter, NOT two daughters and besides back in 1956 I was still an infant. This might explain why I am not in the picture? If I was, my two daughters would be several years older than myself. That type of circumstance occurs only on the planet Treb, nowhere else does it occur in the universe. It is quite impossible outside the Trebian atmosphere. Mr Barker, please explain to me how I can look more credible? Am I not "incredible" already? You are attempting to expose me as a fraud and lying through my teeth, but you do not provide one shred of evidence to support this except TMB statements that I have made in a deliberate attempt to mislead you into thinking that I am Cmdr Val Thor. I do not shirk from confessing that I wish I was he. In the above post you seen to be very confusing here.... that you forget to post as Ram and not Val. I think you got the two Ram/val mixed up when you post. I wrote VAl to be in the picture with his Family NOT you... Your writing has the same kind of Dorthy William's letter.Yes Mr Barker I am very confused. You have got me all at sixes and sevens. Trying to keep up with your posts I need seven fingers on one hand and six on the other. It takes courage to be Val or Ram! Joke intended! Anyway, please extricate me from the confused mess you have got me into. Who is "Dorthy Williams?" Another Venusian?
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Post by Dorothy on Nov 24, 2014 23:16:22 GMT -5
In the above post you seen to be very confusing here.... that you forget to post as Ram and not Val. I think you got the two Ram/val mixed up when you post. I wrote VAl to be in the picture with his Family NOT you... Your writing has the same kind of Dorthy William's letter. Yes Mr Barker I am very confused. You have got me all at sixes and sevens. Trying to keep up with your posts I need seven fingers on one hand and six on the other. It takes courage to be Val or Ram! Joke intended! Anyway, please extricate me from the confused mess you have got me into. Who is "Dorthy Williams?" Another Venusian? Dorthy Williams is my great aunt. I was named after her. I have inherited some old letters from her and Aunt Jeanie that I am trying to get posted and transposed.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 25, 2014 2:21:28 GMT -5
, What I said was that the format images are currently stored in cannot be displayed on the equipment you are using. I have attempted to convert the one image I have of the four of us but it cannot use the full 4-d image information so I had to select the clearest frame from the array. I don't know any other way to get all of the frames to display at the same time to produce the clear image I have. You can see I am standing with my two daughters and my wife is sitting in the chair due to a twisted ankle from hiking the day before.
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Thank you, Cmdr Val Thor, Sir!
What a lovely family! Thank you for sharing that, Sir!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 3:14:50 GMT -5
Yes Mr Barker I am very confused. You have got me all at sixes and sevens. Trying to keep up with your posts I need seven fingers on one hand and six on the other. It takes courage to be Val or Ram! Joke intended! Anyway, please extricate me from the confused mess you have got me into. Who is "Dorthy Williams?" Another Venusian? Dorthy Williams is my great aunt. I was named after her. I have inherited some old letters from her and Aunt Jeanie that I am trying to get posted and transposed. Thanks Dot. I very much appreciate your interjection (is that the right word? It sounds cool!). Anyway, 'er long I fear my dear friend Nathan will be claiming that you and I also are the same person. I am getting used to this by now. It is a thing he has. He also confuses three other guys as being one and the same person, only they are all different guys and one of them ain't even a guy at all. Then he lumped Cmdr Val Thor and I together! I am glad to hear that Dorothy Williams was your great aunt and that you were named after her as was family tradition back then. The letters you possess will be very interesting and hopefully they will support the letter which was posted on this board some time ago.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 27, 2014 5:32:41 GMT -5
That Val, he's a sneaky devil. I found him quite charming!
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Post by Mary on Nov 27, 2014 5:38:04 GMT -5
This board is a joke!!
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Post by rational on Nov 27, 2014 7:11:20 GMT -5
Sometimes you need to laugh!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 8:46:56 GMT -5
i thought they were neither given or taken in marriage in heaven so whats an angel doing with a wife and two kids? Oh! Wally, you are sharp today, right on the ball!
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 11:49:21 GMT -5
That Val, he's a sneaky devil. I found him quite charming! I've heard that about sneaky devils!
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 11:51:38 GMT -5
Mary, There are threads that you can go to where there isn't aliens taking them over like this one. Not many I'll grant you, but they do exist. But I guess you just need to laugh sometimes. Life is not really as serious as some people think.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 27, 2014 15:55:09 GMT -5
It can get very intense. Sometimes down right cruel.. The ignore button works a treat. I suspect some on here are nothing like the people they portray in real life. I can understand why people leave this site.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 27, 2014 16:00:07 GMT -5
Getting back to the topic. If you believe what scriptures say you will believe satan exists as well as all the other entity besdes humans. If you pray and do spiritual warfare as christians you will also have had this stuff confirmed. I dont understand why any christian would have a problem. I do understand why a non believer would. Even non believers believe in good and bad things happening and light verses darkness. Scripture defines it and clarifys it. Movies and entertainment are full of it too.
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Post by Mary on Nov 27, 2014 16:22:03 GMT -5
Many threads get lost in this fantasy stuff and it is hard to find the posts that are relevant to the topic. There is a board for Aliens called "Jump on Board" or the secular board for those who wish to live in a fantasy world. And I am sure they are plenty of alien boards out there for Nathan. I think it is sad, not funny that some one is so misled that they believe these sort of things. First his obsession with the Waldersians, now it is his saint, Val Thor. What will his next obsession be. He says he has been nearly every religion and we are seeing this by the day, month or year. His mind is being taken over by aliens.
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 16:24:20 GMT -5
Getting back to the topic. If you believe what scriptures say you will believe satan exists as well as all the other entity besdes humans. If you pray and do spiritual warfare as christians you will also have had this stuff confirmed. I dont understand why any christian would have a problem. I do understand why a non believer would. Even non believers believe in good and bad things happening and light verses darkness. Scripture defines it and clarifys it. Movies and entertainment are full of it too. I think the difference between believers and non believers is that they see different reasons for why there is good and bad in the world. Non believers don't believe it is a devil tempting people to do things that are bad. They see it as people doing it and the responsibility for it is entirely their own. But the question I posed was not about whether the devil exists or not, but why lucifer would rebel in the first place if God and heaven are so wonderful? Why would an angel that was honored decide to fight a fight they knew they couldn't win? The story either is wrong, makes no sense, or heaven and God are not what people think they are. That's my question. What does a rebellion, a war in heaven, say about heaven? Also, could it happen again?
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 16:27:11 GMT -5
Many threads get lost in this fantasy stuff and it is hard to find the posts that are relevant to the topic. There is a board for Aliens called "Jump on Board" or the secular board for those who wish to live in a fantasy world. And I am sure they are plenty of alien boards out there for Nathan. I think it is sad, not funny that some one is so misled that they believe these sort of things. First his obsession with the Waldersians, now it is his saint, Val Thor. What will his next obsession be. He says he has been nearly every religion and we are seeing this by the day, month or year. His mind is being taken over by aliens. I certainly understand what you are saying and I agree. But sometimes, that's just the way it is and we can't be too serious about it. It's just a forum after all.
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 18:02:30 GMT -5
I think the difference between believers and non believers is that they see different reasons for why there is good and bad in the world. Non believers don't believe it is a devil tempting people to do things that are bad. They see it as people doing it and the responsibility for it is entirely their own. But the question I posed was not about whether the devil exists or not, but why lucifer would rebel in the first place if God and heaven are so wonderful? Why would an angel that was honored decide to fight a fight they knew they couldn't win? The story either is wrong, makes no sense, or heaven and God are not what people think they are. That's my question. What does a rebellion, a war in heaven, say about heaven? The peaceful of heaven was ruined by the fallen angels rebellion. God will destroy the Old heaven and make everything new. Revelation 21:1-4 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Also, could it happen again? The final war between God vs. Satan will be fought here on earth. Rev 16:12-16 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.The Second Coming & The Battle of Armageddon (in Israel location): A Graphic New Look - Doug Hamp [The Prophecy Forum]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gja07ClJaogThat doesn't answer the question of what was wrong with heaven that generated a war against God in the first place though. The creation of the devil imo was to put people in their place and cause them to live in fear. That's not good imo.
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Post by snow on Nov 27, 2014 18:19:33 GMT -5
That doesn't answer the question of what was wrong with heaven that generated a war against God in the first place though. The creation of the devil imo was to put people in their place and cause them to live in fear. That's not good imo. There was NOTHING wrong with heaven... UNTIL Satan and the fallen angels want to take over God's position. God created Lucifer a good wholesome angel with all kinds of super natural powers but by his own choice and rebellion he became Satan/God's adversary.Well Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels definitely felt there was something wrong with heaven. If it was perfect, a place of unconditional love and bliss, why would anyone try to rebel against that. Maybe heaven isn't 'heaven'?
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Post by bubbles on Nov 27, 2014 18:23:47 GMT -5
Getting back to the topic. If you believe what scriptures say you will believe satan exists as well as all the other entity besdes humans. If you pray and do spiritual warfare as christians you will also have had this stuff confirmed. I dont understand why any christian would have a problem. I do understand why a non believer would. Even non believers believe in good and bad things happening and light verses darkness. Scripture defines it and clarifys it. Movies and entertainment are full of it too. I think the difference between believers and non believers is that they see different reasons for why there is good and bad in the world. Non believers don't believe it is a devil tempting people to do things that are bad. They see it as people doing it and the responsibility for it is entirely their own. But the question I posed was not about whether the devil exists or not, but why lucifer would rebel in the first place if God and heaven are so wonderful? Why would an angel that was honored decide to fight a fight they knew they couldn't win? The story either is wrong, makes no sense, or heaven and God are not what people think they are. That's my question. What does a rebellion, a war in heaven, say about heaven? Also, could it happen again? I cant speak for Lucifer as to why he thought he could get away with what he did. Unless he thought a loving god wouldnt react. That is highly possible. The war continues but not in paradise where god is. The war is in the invisible heaven around us. I doubt the other 2/3 would be so stupid. Lucifer was made an example of gods wrath.
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