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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 7:54:22 GMT -5
Having good understanding/high mental capacity quick to comprehend.as persons or animals Sound mind. Howard Gardner will expand on your thinking!
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Post by bubbles on Oct 26, 2014 8:00:29 GMT -5
Having good understanding/high mental capacity quick to comprehend.as persons or animals Sound mind. Howard Gardner will expand on your thinking! Yea? New you would come up with something. Someone told me once 'intelligence 'is the ability to create an arguement. I think he just wanted to test whether I was up for it or a total pushover. As for Howard Gardner. He can wait. Til I wake up again.
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Post by What Hat on Oct 26, 2014 8:01:19 GMT -5
Homo Sapiens are NOT alone in the Universe! This is from US/Defense Intelligent Agency gov't documents... Intelligent life does exists on other planets and throughout the Universe!~~ The following was presented to Victor Martinez from another source (not "Anonymous"): MJ-12 Staff Document A FRAMEWORK: 30 July, 19991) Intelligent life does exist on other planets and throughout the Universe. 2) Craft not of human design or manufacture are operating in and around the land, sea and air of Earth. 3) Intelligent beings other than Homo Sapiens are conducting various missions on this planet. These beings have been coming here for tens of thousands of years. 4) Alien beings may have human-like bodies or non-human bodies (such as hybrid, insectoid, or reptilian). Intelligent beings can be physical, non-physical or inter-dimensional in nature. 5) The variety of life in the universe is diverse, like the life on our own planet is diverse. 6) Some alien beings have the ability through advanced technology or other means to move forward and backward at will through time and space. 7) The spiritual evolution of an alien life form may be ahead of, equal to or behind its level of technological development. 8) The social orientation, motives and agendas of these beings is very diverse. Some alien intelligences are more friendly to human beings than others. 9) In many cases, the "abduction phenomenon" is a real event. This activity is complex, coordinated and purposeful. It often occurs throughout many generations of a family. 10) Cross-breeding of humans with more than one alien species has occurred. Hybrid children and hybrid adults do exist. They have characteristics of both the human and alien races. 11) Although most alien contacts and sightings occurring on modern-day earth have been shrouded in secrecy and mystery, the veil is slowly being lifted by the activities of civilians and specially assigned government personnel. The Public Acclimation to the reality of alien life is proceeding in a way designed not to shock or disrupt society any more than necessary. 12) A great amount of "UFO" and alien information is now in the public domain. Countless books, videos and internet websites are devoted to these subjects. Thousands of pages of U.S. government documents on unusual sightings and encounters have been made available. At this point, credentialed researchers and academicians have investigated the UFO/alien phenomenon and published their findings. This is a further step to help validate the phenomenon in the minds of the public. With these 12 points as a reliable framework, it is intended that key members of the public and government will be better able to accept, evaluate and place into perspective the large body of evidence which is soon to be before them. The original 1954 UFO Crash Retrieval manual of the U.S. Government, known as "Special Operations Manual SOM1-01". The document was classified at two levels Above Top Secret. www.serpo.org/consistencies.php However, the question is about the Milky Way, not the entire universe. There are approx 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy, but there are over 100 billion galaxies in the Universe. The question is just about the Milky Way.
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Post by What Hat on Oct 26, 2014 8:04:49 GMT -5
I've HEARD a lot of things myself!
However, When I hear something, I automatically have a interior set of criteria that comes to play in whether I can believe it or not!
However the word "reality" is defined as:
reality
1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
But then again, "reality" as a subject has been a vast study by philosophers.
I almost never think of the word "reality" without placing it in quotes - at least mentally. One of the leaders in the world of NLP once made the statement that if we were to enter into the "reality" of someone even really close to us, that it would be weirder than even the most extreme LSD trip I think this is probably the case. Uh, speak for yourself.
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Post by bubbles on Oct 26, 2014 8:11:14 GMT -5
Having good understanding/high mental capacity quick to comprehend.as persons or animals Sound mind. Howard Gardner will expand on your thinking! Curiousity got the better of me. Hes my kind of person. I learned about some of this in ch leadership. Shall we begin a thread?
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Post by What Hat on Oct 26, 2014 8:11:49 GMT -5
Framing the question in terms of the Milky Way makes the question quite interesting. It takes light (or a radio signal) about 100,000 years to get across the galaxy, and yet we've only been capable of signalling for a few decades. The question is whether another life form within the 100,000,000,000 planets of the Milky Way could have evolved to our level of intelligence before we did, and have begun a search for life like us. If only 1 in a million planets is capable of having any life at all (we have not yet found even a cell on any other planet or space rock), then only 100,000 planets might have life. And then those could all be far behind us in terms of development of intelligent life. The other issue is that we can only process radio or light signals that is on average 50,000 years old. So the chances of finding life within our own galaxy seem slim. And for other galaxies, because of distance and the relatively slow speed of light, the chances are even slimmer yet. It seems to me that we would need to find a planet that is hospitable to life but has cooled more rapidly than ours did. This'd be a good question to ask an astrophysicist. Anyone know the answer to this?
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 8:11:55 GMT -5
However, the question is about the Milky Way, not the entire universe. There are approx 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy, but there are over 100 billion galaxies in the Universe. The question is just about the Milky Way. That is so limiting.
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Post by What Hat on Oct 26, 2014 8:15:18 GMT -5
However, the question is about the Milky Way, not the entire universe. There are approx 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy, but there are over 100 billion galaxies in the Universe. The question is just about the Milky Way. That is so limiting. Ha, ha. I think it makes for an interesting question than "is there life in the universe"? I found the 4 minute interview quite worthwhile.
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 8:22:29 GMT -5
Framing the question in terms of the Milky Way makes the question quite interesting. It takes light (or a radio signal) about 100,000 years to get across the galaxy, and yet we've only been capable of signalling for a few decades. The question is whether another life form within the 100,000,000,000 planets of the Milky Way could have evolved to our level of intelligence before we did, and have begun a search for life like us. If only 1 in a million planets is capable of having any life at all (we have not yet found even a cell on any other planet or space rock), then only 100,000 planets might have life. And then those could all be far behind us in terms of development of intelligent life. The other issue is that we can only process radio or light signals that is on average 50,000 years old. So the chances of finding life within our own galaxy seem slim. And for other galaxies, because of distance and the relatively slow speed of light, the chances are even slimmer yet. It seems to me that we would need to find a planet that is hospitable to life but has cooled more rapidly than ours did. This'd be a good question to ask an astrophysicist. Anyone know the answer to this? It would even be better if this planet were in the Orion Arm of the galaxy, right in our neighborhood. It might increase the chances that the formation of that solar system was similar to ours. Guess I will go out and see if I see anyone waving. (footnote - Yep. There were people waving. It was the couple next door. Wandering around in the yard late at night with binoculars might not be the smartest thing to do. And my reply "I am looking for a planet like earth in the Orion arm of our galaxy." did little to quiet the yelling!)
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 11:31:27 GMT -5
~~ Well, if you tie it all together it is pretty simple. The Fallen Builders, (and maybe also the spiritual Builders) are extraterrestrials with six digit fingers and toes. They genetically created the giants who inherited the six digit gene. When the giants intermarried with the human population, this gene became incorporated in humans. Normally being recessive, this gene can sporadically become dominant resulting in a six digit human. Pictures of the Demigods Giants with 6 fingers, and the good angel Valiant Thor with 6 fingers and 6 toes. Can you explain how a specific gene changes from being recessive to being dominant? This really makes the point of just how wrong the information you are posting about these things really is. Being polydactyly, having extra fully formed digits, is almost always the dominate trait. Having 5 digits is the recessive trait. Wouldn't you think that these people you quote would have taken at lease biology 101 somewhere along the way?
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 12:37:30 GMT -5
Can you explain how a specific gene changes from being recessive to being dominant? This really makes the point of just how wrong the information you are posting about these things really is. Being polydactyly, having extra fully formed digits, is almost always the dominate trait. Having 5 digits is the recessive trait. Wouldn't you think that these people you quote would have taken at lease biology 101 somewhere along the way? You didn't answer any questions. You state a liner measurement for rge size of Thor's brain. It makes no sense. It is like saying his brain is a foot longer than other people. What does an IQ of 1200 even mean?
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Post by snow on Oct 26, 2014 15:45:58 GMT -5
Framing the question in terms of the Milky Way makes the question quite interesting. It takes light (or a radio signal) about 100,000 years to get across the galaxy, and yet we've only been capable of signalling for a few decades. The question is whether another life form within the 100,000,000,000 planets of the Milky Way could have evolved to our level of intelligence before we did, and have begun a search for life like us. If only 1 in a million planets is capable of having any life at all (we have not yet found even a cell on any other planet or space rock), then only 100,000 planets might have life. And then those could all be far behind us in terms of development of intelligent life. The other issue is that we can only process radio or light signals that is on average 50,000 years old. So the chances of finding life within our own galaxy seem slim. And for other galaxies, because of distance and the relatively slow speed of light, the chances are even slimmer yet. It seems to me that we would need to find a planet that is hospitable to life but has cooled more rapidly than ours did. This'd be a good question to ask an astrophysicist. Anyone know the answer to this? It would even be better if this planet were in the Orion Arm of the galaxy, right in our neighborhood. It might increase the chances that the formation of that solar system was similar to ours. Guess I will go out and see if I see anyone waving. (footnote - Yep. There were people waving. It was the couple next door. Wandering around in the yard late at night with binoculars might not be the smartest thing to do. And my reply "I am looking for a planet like earth in the Orion arm of our galaxy." did little to quiet the yelling!)peepin Rational
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Post by snow on Oct 26, 2014 15:51:09 GMT -5
What does an IQ of 1200 even mean? it mean he a very smart dude, yup.
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 17:06:36 GMT -5
What does an IQ of 1200 even mean? it mean he a very smart dude, yup. I was wondering what sort of a test would even show a score like that! People make these statements but when you ask about the details they never answer. How odd.
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Post by rational on Oct 26, 2014 17:12:47 GMT -5
You didn't answer any questions. You state a liner measurement for rge size of Thor's brain. It makes no sense. It is like saying his brain is a foot longer than other people. Valiant Thor's brain is bigger than the humans. You said it was some number of centimeters larger. What does that mean? These are, after all, your facts. Centimeter is a measurement of length. Please explain just how it could be that long. How was it measured? The IQ scale is based on tests. What test was used? If this is the case why does he need a 'spaceship"?
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Post by snow on Oct 26, 2014 19:05:16 GMT -5
it mean he a very smart dude, yup. I was wondering what sort of a test would even show a score like that! People make these statements but when you ask about the details they never answer. How odd. Yes, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale would be challenged with this one I think. Maybe they have a Wechsler Alien Intelligence Scale...
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Post by snow on Oct 26, 2014 20:27:56 GMT -5
Yes, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale would be challenged with this one I think. Maybe they have a Wechsler Alien Intelligence Scale... They tested VT Intelligent, his Uniforms/clothes, what kind of material was it made from? They tested his blood, they had Cat Scan his body to see how it functions, they hit him and mistreated him like a lab animal for 3 years while he was staying at the Pentagon from 1957-60. He allowed them to do all these tests so let them KNOW He is for REAL, an Ambassador from the Interior planet Venus. From Dr. Stranges Book: The stranger from the Pentagon"Miracle" GarmentIn his apartment, he was able to maintain communications with his ship and was kept informed of the growing world tensions. His uniform underwent rigid tests at that time. By today's standards, they would now be obsolete. They attempted to penetrate the material with a diamond drill bit, but it snapped under pressure. Acid rolled off the uniform and burned a hole in the floor. They fired a high-velocity rifle at the uniform but it failed to pierce it. The report to the President read: Physical appearance -- Soft silver and gold lustrous Fabric -- Unknown Weight-Six ounces, total, including boots Cut -- Close fitting like a tunic; no cuffs, pockets, buttons, zippers, clips or hooks RXT-2 Tests -- IndestructibleNathan I don't know how they could do a CAT scan on VT between 1957-60. CAT scans weren't even invented until 1972.
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Post by SharonArnold on Oct 26, 2014 21:37:15 GMT -5
I almost never think of the word "reality" without placing it in quotes - at least mentally. One of the leaders in the world of NLP once made the statement that if we were to enter into the "reality" of someone even really close to us, that it would be weirder than even the most extreme LSD trip I think this is probably the case. Uh, speak for yourself. Ha! Now THAT is something that I know for sure!
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Post by Lee on Oct 27, 2014 0:56:50 GMT -5
People for whom the extraterrestrial or for whom a theory of extraterrestrial life weighs significantly upon their theology are people who feel compelled to merge the mythological status of Satan with the concrete emphasis of modernity.
As I imagine ET ... ET is concerned with the same problems we are: how to distribute the basic necessities of life evenly and equitably among a society and how to preserve the essential distinction between virtual reality and reality.
To illustrate this latter dilemma, briefly, we consumers are increasingly reliant upon vicarious entertainment (TV), virtual entertainment (computer simulations of reality), and modular consumption. By modular consumption, I mean our economic paradigm where it is expedient to buy replacement modules of consumable hardware rather than inventing/repairing/ or producing it ourselves, -resulting in multitudes of peoples being displaced from traditional occupations. If they are redeployed at all it will be at some form of "job redundancy", a kind of intentional, inefficient exercise for the sole purpose of re-associating or reassigning a task to a person for their livelihood and significance.... Such is the humbling challenge of a technologically, advanced world.
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Post by rational on Oct 27, 2014 8:03:36 GMT -5
Yes, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale would be challenged with this one I think. Maybe they have a Wechsler Alien Intelligence Scale... They tested VT Intelligent, his Uniforms/clothes, what kind of material was it made from? They tested his blood, they had Cat Scan his body to see how it functions, they hit him and mistreated him like a lab animal for 3 years while he was staying at the Pentagon from 1957-60. He allowed them to do all these tests so let them KNOW He is for REAL, an Ambassador from the Interior planet Venus. From Dr. Stranges Book: The stranger from the Pentagon"Miracle" GarmentIn his apartment, he was able to maintain communications with his ship and was kept informed of the growing world tensions. His uniform underwent rigid tests at that time. By today's standards, they would now be obsolete. They attempted to penetrate the material with a diamond drill bit, but it snapped under pressure. Acid rolled off the uniform and burned a hole in the floor. They fired a high-velocity rifle at the uniform but it failed to pierce it. The report to the President read: Physical appearance -- Soft silver and gold lustrous Fabric -- Unknown Weight-Six ounces, total, including boots Cut -- Close fitting like a tunic; no cuffs, pockets, buttons, zippers, clips or hooks RXT-2 Tests -- IndestructibleAny evidence of any of this that was not relayed by Stranges? You do realize that our government is not good at keeping secrets!
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 27, 2014 16:37:45 GMT -5
This is million times I have told all of you is NOT science Fiction. I would NOT post science fiction on my SERIOUS 2x2 message board. We are dealing with SOULS of men and women. Something NOT to think lightly. I believe that you are not joking around. It's just tough to buy into, at face value. If I knew you personally it might be different, but to me you are just another online message board poster, which doesn't help persuade me into believing what you say. I mean that as no offense at all, I too am just another online message board poster to everyone else on here, that's just the nature of this method of communication. I don't think that Nathan is joking. That is the sad part. I think that he actually does believe all that stuff.
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Post by rational on Oct 27, 2014 16:44:18 GMT -5
This is million times :) I have told all of you is NOT science Fiction. I would NOT post science fiction on my SERIOUS 2x2 message board. We are dealing with SOULS of men and women. Something NOT to think lightly. I believe that you are not joking around. It's just tough to buy into, at face value. If I knew you personally it might be different, but to me you are just another online message board poster, which doesn't help persuade me into believing what you say. I mean that as no offense at all, I too am just another online message board poster to everyone else on here, that's just the nature of this method of communication. @haroldjj - would it help if there was any confirming evidence? Something, anything, that did not originate with a single science fiction writer turned pastor? Facts that do not violate the known laws of physics? Maybe Commander Valiant Thor will return and set the record straight.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 28, 2014 13:53:19 GMT -5
I believe God has directed and given me revelation, understanding about these things which I have seen, heard, read and experienced in my own life to warn, Alert people awareness of what is going on in the world today! and things to come soon.... The 2nd coming of Jesus, Flee from the wrath of God is upon people of this earth. God has prepared a new heaven and a new earth for those who love Him and want to be with Him forever.
Perhaps someone has an ego problem like Wm. Ivine did, who thought that god has given him private revelation?
I wonder if the "new earth" will be solid or hollow?
Will the "new heaven" be made of the same kind of material as we refer to as the atmosphere as being the "heavens?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 28, 2014 14:53:13 GMT -5
Perhaps someone has an ego problem like Wm. Ivine did, who thought that god has given him private revelation?
You don't have to believe it, but I encourage the readers to check it out, investigate these things for themselves. Don't take my words for it.
1) I wonder if the "new earth" will be solid or hollow?
~~ I don't know. My guess is every believer in Christ will live on the surface of the New earth.
2) Will the "new heaven" be made of the same kind of material as we refer to as the atmosphere as being the "heavens?" Do you mean that they will live on the surface just as we do now?
How strange!
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Post by rational on Oct 28, 2014 19:07:20 GMT -5
This is posted on Craig C. website: about Valiant Thor: Stranger at the Pentagon Stranger at the Pentagon, A science Fiction or is it Science Fact Short Film. It won a science fiction award. What do you think it is? Craig is a film director/producer basing a science fiction film, for which he received a Sci-Fi award, on the science fiction book by Stranges. See how there is not a second source? Only the writing of Stranges.
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Post by rational on Oct 28, 2014 19:13:58 GMT -5
@haroldjj - would it help if there was any confirming evidence? Something, anything, that did not originate with a single science fiction writer turned pastor? Facts that do not violate the known laws of physics? Maybe Commander Valiant Thor will return and set the record straight. Sure, that would help. Let me guess, you're going to follow up with a similar question about God? What does this have to do with god? NathanB is not claiming these tales to be a belief but facts. Huge difference!
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Post by rational on Oct 29, 2014 8:11:22 GMT -5
It won a science fiction award. What do you think it is? Craig is a film director/producer basing a science fiction film, for which he received a Sci-Fi award, on the science fiction book by Stranges. See how there is not a second source? Only the writing of Stranges. Here is the second source....- Harley Andrew Byrd Nephew of the late Admiral R. Byrd Story of meeting Valiant Thor in 1957Here is some of the data you would like people to believe. Does anything in this written report leap out? See why these people would rather use YouTube than put what they believe into text. Attachment Deleted
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 29, 2014 12:38:44 GMT -5
Here is some of the data you would like people to believe. Does anything in this written report leap out? See why these people would rather use YouTube than put what they believe into text. You lost me with your article, what is your point? AND what it has to do with Harley testimony about meeting with Valiant Thor in 1957 as a second Source? Harley Byrd article wasn't a Ytube. I showed you the Second source. What do you have to say? Read the article again, Nathan . The hi-lited part.
We have had men on the moon.
What is stated here is nothing like what those men found there.
"able to breath the air?" "Yellow sky?" "wind?"
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