Post by CherieKropp on Mar 12, 2014 10:08:14 GMT -5
It is with sorrow that I write that Doug Parker, Author of the Secret Sect book, has recently been diagnosed with cancer, with nothing more to be done but palliative care. He has been able to return home where he will stay as long as possible. A recent visitor reported that Doug is good spirits, although in much pain. Mobility is extremely decreased; he has lost the use of his right arm and cannot walk unaided. It is unknown how much longer he'll be able to remain at home in terms of medical care, and has been told he may last "a few more months".
Doug and Helen are working hard on completing a revised edition of The Secret Sect. They are keeping good care of all of their historical documents and records, and have copies in a safe place. Longer term, they hope to place them in the permanent care of one of our national libraries.
Parker's address: PO Box 92, Vincentia 2540 NSW Australia
Last Edit: Oct 8, 2014 9:43:35 GMT -5 by CherieKropp
Owner of: Telling The Truth (TTT) Website There are just two kinds of people: One to whom Belief...is more precious than Truth, And the other to whom Truth...is more precious than Belief.
I feel for anyone and their family who has to face this cruel disease. Doug Parker was ahead of his time and probably suffered much to reveal the true origins of the Truth to others. Doug was moved to offer for the work, I believe. Closed political and religious systems turn against those who pierce through the veiled secrecy of the group. Thank you Doug Parker, your Secret Sect book will live on forever.
I read the following from the Telling the Truth website:
Doug proposed to his parents that before he entered the work, they should all take a trip together. He proposed they visit his Father’s relatives in Ireland and Britain. His Father had not seen them since World War I. "Feeling indebted to my parents for what I had attained in life, I was prompted to give them a holiday abroad, and this is where destiny changed for the better, thank God..." (Source: A Spiritual Fraud Exposed)
Doug told John Hardie of their plans, and was told in no uncertain terms, “You CANNOT go to Ireland.” Mr. Hardie didn't mind if Doug's parents went, but Doug could NOT go. When Doug asked the reason, he was told, “Once you put your hand to the plow, you can never turn back. And you CANNOT go to Ireland.” Doug had visited these same relatives when he was on leave as a young seaman in his teens, and could not understand what was so wrong with going to visit them again. Deciding that something was amiss, Doug decided to go anyway, and he let John Hardie know of his plans. John Hardie replied that he'd have to reconsider whether or not Doug could enter the work. This only intensified Doug's feeling that something was not quite right.
John Hardie tried another route to stop Doug from going to Ireland. He warned Doug's parents, “If you don’t stop him from going to Ireland, we’ll have to take the meeting out of your home.” This came as a real shock to Mr. Parker, who was very devoted to the fellowship. Mrs. Parker almost had a nervous breakdown. She wept uncontrollably when the workers pressured her unreasonably. Doug's Father walked John Hardie and Gordon McNabb to the door and told them he did not want to see them again in his house.
The friends were not told the real reason Doug didn't go in the work. They heard that Doug wasn't willing to sacrifice his money. The Parker family was shunned. Some of their friends refused to speak to them when they met. Some crossed to the other side of the street when they saw them coming their way. They wouldn't let the Parkers get near them or inside their homes. When the Parkers arrived in Britain and called on some 2x2 friends there, they refused to see them because the workers had written letters ahead warning the friends against the Parkers ^^^^^^^^^^ This is classic spiritual bullying that has plagued the Truth since the early days.
Doug Parker, thank you for the difference you made in my life , and many others. Thanks for telling the truth, in spite of personal cost to you. Indebted to you, Alvin Kroeker , Birch River,Manitoba , Canada
Post by kencoolidge on Mar 12, 2014 14:13:14 GMT -5
Doug Parker Wished I had your your book b4 we exited. It would have given us more confidence in what we painfully did. Thanks for helping others Ken Coolidge
1Cr 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
I feel for anyone and their family who has to face this cruel disease. Doug Parker was ahead of his time and probably suffered much to reveal the true origins of the Truth to others. Doug was moved to offer for the work, I believe. Closed political and religious systems turn against those who pierce through the veiled secrecy of the group. Thank you Doug Parker, your Secret Sect book will live on forever.
Walker ~ I appreciated your comment and agree with your thoughts expressed. Doug Parker was a real trail blazer in exposing the inner workings of the Truth fellowship and filling us in on its historical background. Cherie Kropp has taken up his mantle in her elaborate historical presentation of the 2x2 fellowship on TTT. We can be thankful to both for the many insights into the workings of the 2x2's down through history from its creation by William Irvine.
How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these.
Post by midwesterner on Mar 12, 2014 16:21:47 GMT -5
Doug, thank you for being a major force in exposing the "Truth". I wish I had read your book years ago!!! It sure would have saved me many years of needless grief!! As Walker1903 has pointed out, this spiritual bullying still continues today. We left the "way" a few years ago and still treated worse than murderers. It is absolutely unreal. Our current pastor had never heard of such a group as the 2x2's and is beside himself when we recall so many instances of the untruths and railroading that we experienced and now the shunning and unfounded rumors we hear about now. So glad for ones like Doug that has helped us realize the error of the Workers' Way and glad we found his book to encourage us to seek the real truth in Christ and flee the contraints and mind control experienced in trying live in the secrecy of The Truth. MW
Romans 12:12 "Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation, continuing instant in prayer".
Agreeing with others, and wishing to thank the Parkers for the confirmation found in their book of what I had learned that others refused to mention. I did not get a copy of it to read until after I was forbidden to attend meetings, although I learned little if anything new from reading it. Just very glad for the confirmation of what others would deny.
Remembering when because of illness, I experienced an awareness never before known. Hated leaving it, and look forward to returning to it. No cold dark night for me ahead, and doubt there is for Mr. Parker either: the thankfulness for what one has learned true (in my opinion) in this life, will carry on in that awareness, adding to the reward for many...
My thoughts are with Mr. Parker and his family. Jesus will certainly be with him as he passes through the Valley. Doug's book helped me realize that the church is based on a false premise. It made me think things through logically. Thank you, Mr. Parker!
Post by CherieKropp on Oct 8, 2014 21:21:28 GMT -5
Sorry I neglected to post this earlier...Doug Parker passed away April 16, 2014.
Last Edit: Oct 9, 2014 10:46:10 GMT -5 by CherieKropp
Owner of: Telling The Truth (TTT) Website There are just two kinds of people: One to whom Belief...is more precious than Truth, And the other to whom Truth...is more precious than Belief.
Post by irvinegrey on Oct 10, 2014 16:31:51 GMT -5
It is with deep sadness that I learned of Doug Parker's passing. During my research Doug Parker corresponded with me and was helpful and insightful with his advice and comments. Their book, The Secret Sect was an invaluable source of information. Doug and Helen very kindly contributed a commendation for my book Two by Two the Shape of a Shapeless Movement. I express my deepest sympathy to Helen and the family circle knowing that they can rest in the comfort that Doug could say with complete assurance with the apostle Paul,'the time for my departure has come. [7] I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. [8] Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved his appearing.' (2 Timothy 4:6-8 ESV)
charlesfoxtrot: The FBI is seeking victim voices of the 2x2s. Report at: www.fbi.gov/2x2
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Deleted: I saw yesterday that a letter sent to members of a church was actually copied, and distributed all over the world. I think it was Paul's letter to the Corinthians.
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chap5act38: I never would put letters of preachers sent to members of any church at a website. How would you like it, when i put a letter of your husband to you in public? Well, not very decent. In ALL churches there are some not good. Ok, let it, and live for God.
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chap5act38: there are about 1000 sort of churches. If we make of all wrong churches a website like this. We don't have time to look for where God wants us to be at Sunday. I never would make of any wrong church a website, you keep on 'hanging' in what hurted.
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chap5act38: Every wrong Group I was in, God showed it to me. No woman or man had to do that. I saw it and went away.
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chap5act38: God is Almighty, leave it to Him, He can open eyes.. He doesn’t need you 4 that.
Nov 15, 2023 17:05:02 GMT -5
chap5act38: I prefer to put time in looking 4 a good Group. Life is short. Why time many years for this? You look obsessed... People after all do what they want. So …
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chap5act38: Get a life miss Kropp…
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chap5act38: Poor miss Kropp. All money + time y put in this. Can’t believe it. But you must be obsessed totally. Go and look 4 another church. Give them time etc
Nov 15, 2023 16:57:57 GMT -5
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chap5act38: what If you fight against God…. If it is not good, once y see. I was in wrong Groups, glad to be away when I discovered it was wrong.. If I would make a Website of all wrong groups it hurts only.. and there are many many wrong groups..
Nov 15, 2023 16:56:50 GMT -5
chap5act38: why put time etc in this church? When you don’t want it, look 4 another one. If you write about all wrong churches you never will have a life and time for work etc.
Nov 15, 2023 16:51:03 GMT -5
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chap5act38: Well, when y do not like this church, surch further! I don’t understand a person that is giving so much time to this. Look for a church y think is ok. I was long ago in wrong groups, but God showed me that! Don’t need y. to see it.
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countryroads: There seem to be various versions of the rumor about Frandle floating around. The latest is that he went to a couple of conventions in the western part of the U.S. and was denied entry. These unconfirmed stories are perhaps actively harmful in that, if unt
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Deleted: Ah your opinion he is Greek, good to know...
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BobWilliston: That's what I said -- he was Greek. The great Saint Augustine explained how he injected Paul's christian thought into "Christianity". Remember, Paul wrote that he was only interested in "Jesus the christ", not Jesus the man or Jesus the messiah.
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Deleted: Paul was greek? Where does it say that?
Jul 16, 2023 8:29:47 GMT -5
BobWilliston: Yes, being a Greek Jew, he was referring to the style of a Greek "christ", as opposed to a Jewish "messiah". The Jews never look(ed) for a "christ" -- they only expected a "messiah". The foundation of Christianity through Augustine.
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darrell: In the 2nd chapter of 1st corinthians Paul said when i first came unto you i determined not to know anything among you but Jesus Christ and him crucified.Nothing complicated.Not a list of rules.But the vital piece of doctrine that is before any behaviour.
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