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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 15, 2014 11:19:03 GMT -5
This Bible study has been taken from chapter 8 of LIVE BEFORE YOU DIE Have you ever been in a crowded place such as a shopping mall at Christmastime and heard the sound of someone you love calling out your name? Despite all the noise, Christmas music, and multitudes of busy shoppers, you recognized that familiar sound above everything else because it was someone you love.
God seldom speaks to strangers who have no time for Him, and even if He did, they would not recognize His voice. He loves to speak to people who love Him and desire to live their lives in His presence. He draws near to those who, as an act of their will, have drawn near to Him (James 4:8). The more time we spend alone with Him seeking His face through prayer and worship, the easier it becomes to hear and immediately recognize His voice in our hearts. The greater our love for Him, the more finely tuned our ears will become to hear the sound of His voice.
God does speak to His people by His Spirit. The challenge is in learning to hear and then having the determination, faith, and love to simply obey what He is saying. We can all hear the voice of God if we will learn to listen. “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” (Rom. 8:14).
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 15, 2014 15:15:48 GMT -5
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God seldom speaks to strangers who have no time for Him, and even if He did, they would not recognize His voice. He loves to speak to people who love Him and desire to live their lives in His presence. He draws near to those who, as an act of their will, have drawn near to Him (James 4:8). The more time we spend alone with Him seeking His face through prayer and worship, the easier it becomes to hear and immediately recognize His voice in our hearts. The greater our love for Him, the more finely tuned our ears will become to hear the sound of His voice. God does speak to His people by His Spirit. The challenge is in learning to hear and then having the determination, faith, and love to simply obey what He is saying. We can all hear the voice of God if we will learn to listen. “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” (Rom. 8:14). However, which God, Ken?
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 15, 2014 15:29:57 GMT -5
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God seldom speaks to strangers who have no time for Him, and even if He did, they would not recognize His voice. He loves to speak to people who love Him and desire to live their lives in His presence. He draws near to those who, as an act of their will, have drawn near to Him (James 4:8). The more time we spend alone with Him seeking His face through prayer and worship, the easier it becomes to hear and immediately recognize His voice in our hearts. The greater our love for Him, the more finely tuned our ears will become to hear the sound of His voice. God does speak to His people by His Spirit. The challenge is in learning to hear and then having the determination, faith, and love to simply obey what He is saying. We can all hear the voice of God if we will learn to listen. “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” (Rom. 8:14). However, which God, Ken?
DMG The God that is your personal God. Perhaps those who have an ear for the still small voice over their loud inner voice ken
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 15, 2014 16:24:25 GMT -5
DMG The God that is your personal God. Perhaps those who have an ear for the still small voice over their loud inner voice ken Since we are all different from one another, -do you mean everyone has a "personal" God that is different from everyone else's "personal" God?
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 15, 2014 16:46:24 GMT -5
DMG Its a matter of your belief in some form or none at all ken
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Post by snow on Aug 15, 2014 17:30:25 GMT -5
Not sure how this relates to living before you die though. I believe we all do that. Hi Ken long time no read!
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 15, 2014 19:21:29 GMT -5
DMG Its a matter of your belief in some form or none at all ken Ah, so you, Ken, have a personal God that you believe in, while other people in Christianity have their own personal God that they might believe in that could be somewhat different than your personal God?
Or did you mean that by "your belief (mine or yours?) in some form, "was the only right way -otherwise there was no right way at all?"
Just trying to figure out what you meant.
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Post by xna on Aug 15, 2014 19:34:35 GMT -5
DMG Its a matter of your belief in some form or none at all ken Ah, so you, Ken, have a personal God that you believe in, while other people in Christianity have their own personal God that they might believe in that could be somewhat different than your personal God?
Or did you mean that by "your belief (mine or yours?) in some form, "was the only right way -otherwise there was no right way at all?"
Just trying to figure out what you meant.
If one god, spoke with one voice, and one message, we would get a different observed outcome.
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Post by snow on Aug 15, 2014 20:43:33 GMT -5
Ah, so you, Ken, have a personal God that you believe in, while other people in Christianity have their own personal God that they might believe in that could be somewhat different than your personal God?
Or did you mean that by "your belief (mine or yours?) in some form, "was the only right way -otherwise there was no right way at all?"
Just trying to figure out what you meant.
If one god, spoke with one voice, and one message, we would get a different observed outcome. It was pretty fragmented right from the start. Everyone had a different idea of who and what Jesus was.
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Post by emy on Aug 15, 2014 23:26:51 GMT -5
This Bible study has been taken from chapter 8 of LIVE BEFORE YOU DIE
Interesting... a Bible study but not from the Bible.
It seems the title (theme?) of the book might contradict what the Bible really says?
John 12:24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
Rom. 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 23:27:26 GMT -5
If one god, spoke with one voice, and one message, we would get a different observed outcome. It was pretty fragmented right from the start. Everyone had a different idea of who and what Jesus was. and they didn't have God's idea who and what Jesus was
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 16, 2014 0:07:39 GMT -5
This Bible study has been taken from chapter 8 of LIVE BEFORE YOU DIE Interesting... a Bible study but not from the Bible. It seems the title (theme?) of the book might contradict what the Bible really says? John 12:24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. Rom. 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. I don't see anything wrong with the title being connected to a Bible study. There are lots of things to study "about" the Bible that are not written in the Bible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 1:18:55 GMT -5
This Bible study has been taken from chapter 8 of LIVE BEFORE YOU DIE Interesting... a Bible study but not from the Bible. It seems the title (theme?) of the book might contradict what the Bible really says? John 12:24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. Rom. 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. I don't see anything wrong with the title being connected to a Bible study. There are lots of things to study "about" the Bible that are not written in the Bible. of course not just gives more room for more of mans ideas
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 16, 2014 1:44:11 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with the title being connected to a Bible study. There are lots of things to study "about" the Bible that are not written in the Bible. of course not just gives more room for more of mans ideas Of course. Not all Bibles are printed on the same kind of paper, or bound in the same manner. And not all Bibles have the same contents. For starters. What would you like to know about Bibles?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 2:19:47 GMT -5
of course not just gives more room for more of mans ideas Of course. Not all Bibles are printed on the same kind of paper, or bound in the same manner. And not all Bibles have the same contents. For starters. What would you like to know about Bibles? nothing, why would i need to?
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Post by bubbles on Aug 16, 2014 2:29:28 GMT -5
Yeh I need to live. What if I come back as cat or lizard or a whale? I do like my life and the oneness I sometimes encounter.
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Post by bubbles on Aug 16, 2014 2:31:41 GMT -5
Bob
I hear the bible isnt complete without all the other scrolls and manuscripts.
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 16, 2014 7:04:52 GMT -5
Not sure how this relates to living before you die though. I believe we all do that. Hi Ken long time no read! Snow I love the line William Wallace said in the Movie Braveheart "All men die but not all men live" He lived and died paying the price for what he believed. At least thats my take on the statement ken
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 16, 2014 7:07:08 GMT -5
DMG Its a matter of your belief in some form or none at all ken Ah, so you, Ken, have a personal God that you believe in, while other people in Christianity have their own personal God that they might believe in that could be somewhat different than your personal God?
Or did you mean that by "your belief (mine or yours?) in some form, "was the only right way -otherwise there was no right way at all?"
Just trying to figure out what you meant.
DMG There you go interpreting what I think or believe. This will always get you into trouble. ken
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 16, 2014 7:27:15 GMT -5
This Bible study has been taken from chapter 8 of LIVE BEFORE YOU DIE Interesting... a Bible study but not from the Bible. It seems the title (theme?) of the book might contradict what the Bible really says? John 12:24 Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. Rom. 8:13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Emy I like your comments .In particular John 12:24 but reading it in context gives you some insight that perhaps Jesus was talking about himself? Jhn 12:18 For this cause the people also met him, for that they heard that he had done this miracle. Jhn 12:19 The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him. Jhn 12:20 ¶ And there were certain Greeks among them that came up to worship at the feast: Jhn 12:21 The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus. Jhn 12:22 Philip cometh and telleth Andrew: and again Andrew and Philip tell Jesus. Jhn 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Jhn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Jhn 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. So we could apply that to Jesus or ourselves. Living for Jesus requires us to die to self. In regards to my words that it was a Bible study. There are many helpful guides to studing the bible without being the bible. Perhaps you might think of a concordance as one such help In regards to you Romans quote I also aprreciated the preceding verses which illuminate your particular verse: Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Rom 8:12 ¶ Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. Love ya Emy ken
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Post by snow on Aug 16, 2014 11:41:37 GMT -5
It was pretty fragmented right from the start. Everyone had a different idea of who and what Jesus was. and they didn't have God's idea who and what Jesus was Trouble is no one knows for sure there is even any gods or a god. So everyone thinks they and they alone have that connection with the right God and are receiving the right info from that God. Everyone thinks they are right of course. From what I have observed, since everyone thinks they have the right interpretation of God and what that God thinks, it seems that this component is the most important one in their lives, not the actual confirmation that any of it is true.
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 16, 2014 12:15:23 GMT -5
Not sure how this relates to living before you die though. I believe we all do that. Hi Ken long time no read! Snow I love the line William Wallace said in the Movie Braveheart "All men die but not all men live" He lived and died paying the price for what he believed. At least thats my take on the statement ken I have been reading but not posting. I appreciate your take on things. Despite those who cannot believe the history books and acheological findings support the one God- the facts are hard to refute. Hope you are haveing good days and are encouraged. ken
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 16, 2014 14:03:20 GMT -5
Of course. Not all Bibles are printed on the same kind of paper, or bound in the same manner. And not all Bibles have the same contents. For starters. What would you like to know about Bibles? nothing, why would i need to? Well some people do want to know about Bibles. You should appreciate them because they're the people who brought you your Bible.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 16, 2014 14:18:46 GMT -5
Bob I hear the bible isnt complete without all the other scrolls and manuscripts. The Bible is as complete as the people who bind the pages believe it should be. Some people believe the "Wisdom of Solomon" should be scripture. Ironically, the people who believe the "Wisdom of Solomon" is not scripture accept the erotic "Song of Solomon" as scripture. The real reason anything is not included in the Bible is because the Roman church determined that it did not support their doctrine. So if one is going to consider other writings scripture, you will have to make your own Bible -- and there are such Bibles. A "bible" is nothing more than a book - actually any book. In modern language it is used to mean the complete instruction on a particular topic. e.g. The Bible of brain surgery. "Scripture" is anything that is written. Today we call it literature, but if ancient scribes wrote it we call it scripture. A "bible" becomes a "Holy Bible" when a religious group compiles all the "scriptures" they need to justify their doctrine(s). Christians, Mormons, and Jews have very few "holy" scriptures; except for Mormons who have bookcases full of them. Most of the ancient scrolls and manuscripts were burned in the Library in Alexandria by the Christians.
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Post by snow on Aug 16, 2014 18:02:44 GMT -5
Snow I love the line William Wallace said in the Movie Braveheart "All men die but not all men live" He lived and died paying the price for what he believed. At least thats my take on the statement ken I have been reading but not posting. I appreciate your take on things. Despite those who cannot believe the history books and acheological findings support the one God- the facts are hard to refute. Hope you are haveing good days and are encouraged. ken Good to hear you're keeping track of us anyway! I've been doing ok. Hope you have been too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 20:10:56 GMT -5
and they didn't have God's idea who and what Jesus was Trouble is no one knows for sure there is even any gods or a god. So everyone thinks they and they alone have that connection with the right God and are receiving the right info from that God. Everyone thinks they are right of course. From what I have observed, since everyone thinks they have the right interpretation of God and what that God thinks, it seems that this component is the most important one in their lives, not the actual confirmation that any of it is true. i know for sure
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Post by bubbles on Aug 16, 2014 20:16:19 GMT -5
Of the original scrolls. I wouldnt mind searching the vatican. Hidden secrets hidden knowledge.
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Post by kencoolidge on Aug 16, 2014 21:36:54 GMT -5
Of the original scrolls. I wouldnt mind searching the vatican. Hidden secrets hidden knowledge. Bubbles Knowledge is power. The more you withold the more power you have! ken
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