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Post by snow on Aug 9, 2014 19:44:07 GMT -5
Yes, that's the one alright! He is an awesome mouser, but I can't get him to quit bringing them in. Guess he thinks he's contributing lol. However, eating only the parts he likes and leaving the rest on my floor is not acceptable!! Now I just need to get him to understand that haha. Some cats do have discerning abilities. I had a black spotted cat that came into the house one Sun. afternoon with his mouth full of something we weren't sure of what it was! My mom told me to get a hold of the cat before he ate it and check it out in case it was a piece of poisoned meat or something. After Muffy laid it down I just pulled him away from it for a bit and as I looked at it, it turned out to be two pieces of cooked celery and the aroma was quite fresh....it'd just been thrown out of someone's door after they took up their Sun. dinner roast. It smelled quite much like cooking roast and I told mom that it didn't seem to be laced with anything but beef juices. So we let Muffy keep his prize and I didn't think he'd eat it after he started on it as it was celery, but that cat ate ever last bite of it. So that taught us to give the cats our roast seasonings also! I would never have guessed a cat would eat celery! Our dog eats all kinds of veggies, but our cat just turns up his nose.
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Post by rational on Aug 9, 2014 20:57:29 GMT -5
According to Genesis this is not the case. Fish, squid, plankton, and probably whales, dolphins, etc., were not considered to be creatures wherein was the breath of life. Data required here, Rat! :D Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.Since fish were not brought into the ark and they were not destroyed then must not have contained the breath of life. This would have included whales. Of course, it also says everything in the earth shall die. Makes you wonder about the plants.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 10, 2014 10:35:01 GMT -5
Data required here, Rat! Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.Since fish were not brought into the ark and they were not destroyed then must not have contained the breath of life. This would have included whales. Of course, it also says everything in the earth shall die. Makes you wonder about the plants. How do you know fish were not brought into the ark? Now this would be a case of when the dinosaurs being extinguish for all times...dinosaurs in Noah's day would have been too big to oput in the ark.....as to plants? It seems that all plant did succumb to the waters, except there were certain plants that evidently either were resistant to being flooded OR the seeds that were flooded caught growth and thus the poor dove was able to bring back a olive branch! Seems the olives have been the most important tree fruit for the JUdea and other Children of Israel! And also for the other Middle easterner folks! I'd say likely when Noah put enough herbs into the ARk to feed the humans and the animals that there was plants enough or seeds enough to start replanting the area that'd been flooded!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 13:24:19 GMT -5
Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.Since fish were not brought into the ark and they were not destroyed then must not have contained the breath of life. This would have included whales. Of course, it also says everything in the earth shall die. Makes you wonder about the plants. How do you know fish were not brought into the ark? Now this would be a case of when the dinosaurs being extinguish for all times...dinosaurs in Noah's day would have been too big to oput in the ark.....as to plants? It seems that all plant did succumb to the waters, except there were certain plants that evidently either were resistant to being flooded OR the seeds that were flooded caught growth and thus the poor dove was able to bring back a olive branch! Seems the olives have been the most important tree fruit for the JUdea and other Children of Israel! And also for the other Middle easterner folks! I'd say likely when Noah put enough herbs into the ARk to feed the humans and the animals that there was plants enough or seeds enough to start replanting the area that'd been flooded! read genesis chapter 7...no fish
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Post by rational on Aug 10, 2014 15:17:28 GMT -5
How do you know fish were not brought into the ark? Now this would be a case of when the dinosaurs being extinguish for all times...dinosaurs in Noah's day would have been too big to oput in the ark.....as to plants? It seems that all plant did succumb to the waters, except there were certain plants that evidently either were resistant to being flooded OR the seeds that were flooded caught growth and thus the poor dove was able to bring back a olive branch! Seems the olives have been the most important tree fruit for the JUdea and other Children of Israel! And also for the other Middle easterner folks! I'd say likely when Noah put enough herbs into the ARk to feed the humans and the animals that there was plants enough or seeds enough to start replanting the area that'd been flooded! read genesis chapter 7...no fish Whales?
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 10, 2014 16:34:18 GMT -5
Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.Since fish were not brought into the ark and they were not destroyed then must not have contained the breath of life. This would have included whales. Of course, it also says everything in the earth shall die. Makes you wonder about the plants. How do you know fish were not brought into the ark? Now this would be a case of when the dinosaurs being extinguish for all times... dinosaurs in Noah's day would have been too big to (o) put in the ark.....as to plants? It seems that all plant did succumb to the waters, except there were certain plants that evidently either were resistant to being flooded OR the seeds that were flooded caught growth and thus the poor dove was able to bring back a olive branch! Seems the olives have been the most important tree fruit for the JUdea and other Children of Israel! And also for the other Middle easterner folks! I'd say likely when Noah put enough herbs into the ARk to feed the humans and the animals that there was plants enough or seeds enough to start replanting the area that'd been flooded! However, a flood wasn't the reason that the dinosaurs were extinguished.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 10, 2014 16:47:10 GMT -5
Without any reference at all to any theological concept -- what difference between human beings and all other species indicates that humans alone have a spiritual component in their makeup?
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Post by dmmichgood on Aug 10, 2014 17:36:05 GMT -5
read genesis chapter 7...no fish Whales? Whales had a kind of backward evolution didn't they? Weren't they land animals that evolved to go into the water?
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Post by Gene on Aug 10, 2014 19:43:13 GMT -5
Whales had a kind of backward evolution didn't they? Weren't they land animals that evolved to go into the water? Yes, they devolved to the water at the time of Noah's flood.
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Post by snow on Aug 10, 2014 20:38:34 GMT -5
Whales had a kind of backward evolution didn't they? Weren't they land animals that evolved to go into the water? Yes, they devolved to the water at the time of Noah's flood. You know, I can't believe just how much I learn daily here!
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Post by Gene on Aug 10, 2014 20:56:13 GMT -5
Yes, they devolved to the water at the time of Noah's flood. You know, I can't believe just how much I learn daily here! Yes, well, I just try to do my little part.
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Post by snow on Aug 10, 2014 20:57:35 GMT -5
You know, I can't believe just how much I learn daily here! Yes, well, I just try to do my little part. HA! Oh my...
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 10, 2014 22:16:50 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Aug 10, 2014 22:28:47 GMT -5
Whales had a kind of backward evolution didn't they? Weren't they land animals that evolved to go into the water? Yes, they devolved to the water at the time of Noah's flood. I think I read about that. Didn't get loaded on the ark so they learned to swim. Whales: Reading the Bumps and how they got that way.. Journal of Phrenology, March - Number X; No. 3,pages 121-132.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 10, 2014 22:42:05 GMT -5
You know, I can't believe just how much I learn daily here! Yes, well, I just try to do my little part. I thought he was talking about me when he said he didn't want to sound like a know it all.
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Post by magpies on Aug 11, 2014 5:00:30 GMT -5
Why this Question?,forget these other things of Gods creation> Think of our world wide neighbours,ISAS is beheading Chaldean Christian children and each one has a SOUL.Selling women into slavery,want after a takeover of Iraq say they will demand around 4 million women be sexually mutilated. Let God and the nature he created look after puppyland or pussy cat hell? Genecide is starting again and christians as well as other cultures and beliefs all who have souls are being slaughtered. And you wonder if the cruelest animal on earth-DOMESTIC CAT who kills for fun has a soul ..get a life and reach out to help and support those being persecuted NOW even if you can only give some $$s until it hurts a bit. Nothing equals than seeing your kids being beheaded just before you are> forget the #$%^&*cats.This because you wont denounce your FAITH.
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Post by magpies on Aug 11, 2014 5:06:59 GMT -5
P.S. This because -- "they"wont denounce their FAITH.... (the "you"wasnt meant to mean you)sorry.
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Post by Gene on Aug 11, 2014 8:31:45 GMT -5
Yes, they devolved to the water at the time of Noah's flood. I think I read about that. Didn't get loaded on the ark so they learned to swim. Whales: Reading the Bumps and how they got that way.. Journal of Phrenology, March - Number X; No. 3,pages 121-132. Yes, well, that answers where the dinosaurs went, too. No room for them in the inn ark, so they went into the water and became whales.
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Post by Gene on Aug 11, 2014 8:33:49 GMT -5
Oh great, thanks, Bob. Now I won't be able to buy peanut butter without reading the label first. Or feeling guilty. Or, more likely, both, if I cannot find a brand without palm oil.
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Post by Gene on Aug 11, 2014 8:36:23 GMT -5
Oh great, thanks, Bob. Now I won't be able to buy peanut butter without reading the label first. Or feeling guilty. Or, more likely, both, if I cannot find a brand without palm oil. Woo-hoo! Just went to the pantry to check my brand of peanut butter, and it has no palm oil! "...hydrogenated vegetable oil (rapeseed, cottonseed, soybean)..."
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 11, 2014 9:28:26 GMT -5
Without any reference at all to any theological concept -- what difference between human beings and all other species indicates that humans alone have a spiritual component in their makeup? I'll get churched for this one! However according to what we read in Genesis, there is NO difference between the life forms that "have breath of life" for they are all called "living souls" after birth, hatching, etc EXCEPT one thing and that is man is made after the image of God, so says Genesis. So if man is made after a grand Spirit, I'd feel perhaps that that man has a spirit also! Seems all throughout the bible that mankind's spirit was what got him into trouble or out of trouble as far as God was concerned. Take David and his adultery issue...normally according to the Mosaic law he and his adulterous lady should both have been stoned to death, but then when David recognized his own sins and was willing to face his own sentence, the prophet told him that God had forgiven him his sin......etc! So with spirits we enter into some kind of relationship with the God of heaven or don't enter into somekind of relationship with the God of heaven! Our bodies will cease to exist upon death, our souls will be reclaimed by the one who gave that breath of life and our spirits will be either attached eternally with the God of heaven or with the one who inhabits the fiery pit....so I've been told! Seems kind of like that would be what would happen when considered through the eyes of punishment for sinning, eh?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 11, 2014 9:32:47 GMT -5
Why this Question?,forget these other things of Gods creation> Think of our world wide neighbours,ISAS is beheading Chaldean Christian children and each one has a SOUL.Selling women into slavery,want after a takeover of Iraq say they will demand around 4 million women be sexually mutilated. Let God and the nature he created look after puppyland or pussy cat hell? Genecide is starting again and christians as well as other cultures and beliefs all who have souls are being slaughtered. And you wonder if the cruelest animal on earth-DOMESTIC CAT who kills for fun has a soul ..get a life and reach out to help and support those being persecuted NOW even if you can only give some $$s until it hurts a bit. Nothing equals than seeing your kids being beheaded just before you are> forget the #$%^&*cats.This because you wont denounce your FAITH. Seems the end product of such violence will be more feral cats to battle...of course there are certain races of people who will eat cat flesh...so maybe when the oil productions cease to be of importance due to so many people being slaughtered and the evil ones always on the move to take down little parties of adversities here and there, that "cat" may be the prime income for the terriorist!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 11, 2014 9:37:30 GMT -5
Very moving! It's just awful what progress is doing to the face of the earth and the habitat for many creatures! Please pass the KIeenex!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 11, 2014 9:40:16 GMT -5
Oh great, thanks, Bob. Now I won't be able to buy peanut butter without reading the label first. Or feeling guilty. Or, more likely, both, if I cannot find a brand without palm oil. Gene, make your own peanut butter and if you need to make it more spreadable, use peanut oil....but then now somebody will be sure to tell me that is taking away the food of the monkeys!
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Post by rational on Aug 11, 2014 10:14:05 GMT -5
Without any reference at all to any theological concept -- what difference between human beings and all other species indicates that humans alone have a spiritual component in their makeup? I'll get churched for this one! However according to what we read in Genesis, there is NO difference between the life forms that "have breath of life" for they are all called "living souls" after birth, hatching, etc EXCEPT one thing and that is man is made after the image of God, so says Genesis. So if man is made after a grand Spirit, I'd feel perhaps that that man has a spirit also! Seems all throughout the bible that mankind's spirit was what got him into trouble or out of trouble as far as God was concerned. Take David and his adultery issue...normally according to the Mosaic law he and his adulterous lady should both have been stoned to death, but then when David recognized his own sins and was willing to face his own sentence, the prophet told him that God had forgiven him his sin......etc! So with spirits we enter into some kind of relationship with the God of heaven or don't enter into somekind of relationship with the God of heaven! Our bodies will cease to exist upon death, our souls will be reclaimed by the one who gave that breath of life and our spirits will be either attached eternally with the God of heaven or with the one who inhabits the fiery pit....so I've been told! Seems kind of like that would be what would happen when considered through the eyes of punishment for sinning, eh? Do animals that do not breath, do not have the "breath of life" (or any breath!), count? That is a lot of creatures in the sea without souls (or soles).
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Post by snow on Aug 11, 2014 11:21:26 GMT -5
The only reason humans think they have souls is because they think they think better than other animals think. Boy, that's a lot of thinks...
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Post by rational on Aug 11, 2014 11:48:55 GMT -5
The only reason humans think they have souls is because they think they think better than other animals think. Boy, that's a lot of thinks... Perhaps they only think they can think better than they think non-thinking creatures think.
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Post by snow on Aug 11, 2014 13:33:11 GMT -5
The only reason humans think they have souls is because they think they think better than other animals think. Boy, that's a lot of thinks... Perhaps they only think they can think better than they think non-thinking creatures think. This is almost as good as picking seashells at the sea shore...
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