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Post by déjà vu on Apr 18, 2014 17:48:45 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is?
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Post by xna on Apr 18, 2014 18:24:09 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Christianity has a major impact, but in my option it's not the most significant. These would be on my short list: Emergence of Homo Sapiens Discovery of Fire Birth of civilization Establishment of the first official series of laws by the Egyptians. Paper & writing Electricity Roman Empire Magna Carta Black Death Renaissance Newton's Laws Theory of Evolution Industrial Age World War 1, 2 Human flight Computers Germ Theory Genomics Space Travel Internet
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 18, 2014 19:25:53 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? What was wrong with the other resurrected saviors?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 19:26:38 GMT -5
The first two homeless preachers came to town in the early days and brought Truth??? HA
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Post by Gene on Apr 18, 2014 19:53:40 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Christianity has a major impact, but in my option it's not the most significant. These would be on my short list: Emergence of Homo Sapiens Discovery of Fire Birth of civilization Establishment of the first official series of laws by the Egyptians. Paper & writing Electricity Roman Empire Magna Carta Black Death Renaissance Newton's Laws Theory of Evolution Industrial Age World War 1, 2 Human flight Computers Germ Theory Genomics Space Travel Internet Wikipedia, because without it, all I could do with XNA's list would be to nod, sagely. For example: Germ Theory: One should wash one's hands after sneezing into them. Now I'm off to Wikipedia to find out what Germ Theory really is. (I hope it's more than washing one's hands.)
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Post by Gene on Apr 18, 2014 19:55:43 GMT -5
Christianity has a major impact, but in my option it's not the most significant. These would be on my short list: Emergence of Homo Sapiens Discovery of Fire Birth of civilization Establishment of the first official series of laws by the Egyptians. Paper & writing Electricity Roman Empire Magna Carta Black Death Renaissance Newton's Laws Theory of Evolution Industrial Age World War 1, 2 Human flight Computers Germ Theory Genomics Space Travel Internet Wikipedia, because without it, all I could do with XNA's list would be to nod, sagely. For example: Germ Theory: One should wash one's hands after sneezing into them. Now I'm off to Wikipedia to find out what Germ Theory really is. (I hope it's more than washing one's hands.) Okay, I'm back. Turns out I was right, essentially. <sigh> I was expecting something like: "Germ Theory describes the quantum mechanics fluid state of the hyperbolated quasi-existential exegetical biokinetic calculus of dirt." I know, I know -- I stole that line from Lee, when he was explaining the nature of God in every day terms.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 18, 2014 21:51:44 GMT -5
The first two homeless preachers came to town in the early days and brought Truth??? HA And if that hadn't happened? The Pentecostals came the next year and brought the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 22:16:28 GMT -5
Here is what one writer suggests:
1) Birth of civilization in Sumer. Sumer was the first true civilization in world history. The cities of Sumer were the first to practice intensive, year-round agriculture. The organization in Sumer led to the necessity of record keeping and the subsequent development of writing.
2) Establishment of the first official series of laws by the Egyptians.
3) Invention of paper. The invention of paper made writing a lot easier, since paper is a lot more dependable than the other objects that can be used to write on.
4) Discovery of electricity. Without electricity, cell phones, computers, microwaves, TV's, etc. would not exist today. People's houses would still be lit by candles if electricity was not discovered because innovations such as the light bulb would of course never occur, either.
5) Establishment of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire was one of the most powerful empires in world history, and the Romans invented democracy. If it was not for the contributions of the Romans, the United States (a country founded on the principles of democracy) would not be in existence today.
6) Signing of the Magna Carta. The US Constitution and many other constitutions of countries around the world would not have been possible without the Magna Carta. It was a turning point in the struggle to establish freedom and a key element in the transformation of constitutional thinking throughout the world
7) The Black Death strikes Europe. The Black Death is estimated to have taken the lives of 30%-60% of Europeans at the time it struck. Clearly, some individuals who died because of the Black Death could have become similar to a Da Vinci or Newton, but they died before the world could benefit from their geniuses.
8) The Renaissance. The Renaissance was a time of great learning in Europe and led to some of the greatest artistic, literary, and scientific achievements made in history. Because of the Renaissance, Europe went from being in a state of barbarism to becoming a very advanced society.
9) World War I. World War I was among the most deadly wars in the history of the world. It was supposed to be "The War to End All Wars", but it wasn't. Because of the mistakes made after the war, conditions arose that eventually led to the catastrophe known as World War II.
10) World War II. World War II was the largest and deadliest war ever fought in human history. Also used in World War II for the first time were nuclear weapons. As a result of World War II, the Soviet Union and the United States became the two superpowers of the world and the tension that arose between the two superpowers after came close to destroying humanity on several occasions.
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 18, 2014 22:39:30 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Perhaps Christians should take a more careful look at "Easter."
It is after all a pagan belief with all the trappings of the "resurrection" of life in the spring after the death of winter. That concept played out in history through mythology a long time before Jesus ever lived.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2014 0:59:41 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Perhaps Christians should take a more careful look at "Easter."
It is after all a pagan belief with all the trappings of the "resurrection" of life in the spring after the death of winter. That concept played out in history through mythology a long time before Jesus ever lived.Even the church fathers have recognized that these are Pagan customs.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2014 1:05:33 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Easter would not have become so important if the Roman government did not mandate that the church fathers stop talking about where the custom of Easter came from. No difference at all from the workers denying the influence of William Irvine on the 2x2s.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 2:45:17 GMT -5
Today was one of them. Elon Musk, of Spacex, soft landed a first stage booster in the ocean. (where it promptly sank - but later models will return to the launch place) His rocket cost $55M, as opposed to about $350M from other launchers. And when he can recover all of his rocket, he might be able to do a launch for a couple of million - meaning it will be cheaper to go to space than fly Sydney to LA. Yayyy !!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 2:50:03 GMT -5
IMO biggest invention - stone axe, took two million years and shaped the human brain. biggest discovery - America, brought Europe out of the fog of the dark ages, and ushered in an age of innovation, science, the arts and literature. weirdest discovery in science - Young's Double Slit Experiment in quantum physics. greatest historical figure - Jesus.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2014 3:30:18 GMT -5
IMO biggest invention - stone axe, took two million years and shaped the human brain. biggest discovery - America, brought Europe out of the fog of the dark ages, and ushered in an age of innovation, science, the arts and literature. weirdest discovery in science - Young's Double Slit Experiment in quantum physics. greatest historical figure - Jesus. You make it sound like nothing happened anywhere but Western Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 3:40:55 GMT -5
No, the stone axe is African. Jesus is "Middle East"
I cannot think of one thing Pre Columbian people did to profoundly alter humanities perception of the universe.
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Post by snow on Apr 19, 2014 10:55:39 GMT -5
The enlightenment of Buddha under the Bodhi tree?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 13:38:49 GMT -5
The invention of the wheel occurred in Mesopotamia.
We re-invent it quite often on this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 14:52:19 GMT -5
Being born..... If that hadn't happened, then all other events would not have affected me.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2014 17:07:24 GMT -5
No, the stone axe is African. Jesus is "Middle East" I cannot think of one thing Pre Columbian people did to profoundly alter humanities perception of the universe. You're talking about what profoundly altering "Western" perception of the universe. How about: Ancient Egyptians performed brain surgeries. Arabs and Mayans invented "zero". The discovery that the earth was a sphere BCE. The printing press in China. Indoor plumbing in Mexico. The migration of African DNA to South America. Muslim science and commerce during the dark ages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 18:09:14 GMT -5
One worker is quoted as saying that the resurrection of the Jewish state in Palestine and God's way restarting are the 2 most important dates ever. I wish I could remember which internet site I found that quote.
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Post by Gene on Apr 19, 2014 22:18:44 GMT -5
One worker is quoted as saying that the resurrection of the Jewish state in Palestine and God's way restarting are the 2 most important dates ever. I wish I could remember which internet site I found that quote. Sounds like it could be a Donald Karnes topic. Try googling 2x2 Donald Karnes Israel.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2014 23:08:31 GMT -5
One worker is quoted as saying that the resurrection of the Jewish state in Palestine and God's way restarting are the 2 most important dates ever. I wish I could remember which internet site I found that quote. Sounds like he misunderstands the state of Israel.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 20, 2014 10:17:26 GMT -5
Christianity has a major impact, but in my option it's not the most significant. These would be on my short list: Emergence of Homo Sapiens Discovery of Fire Birth of civilization Establishment of the first official series of laws by the Egyptians. Paper & writing Electricity Roman Empire Magna Carta Black Death Renaissance Newton's Laws Theory of Evolution Industrial Age World War 1, 2 Human flight Computers Germ Theory Genomics Space Travel Internet Wikipedia, because without it, all I could do with XNA's list would be to nod, sagely. For example: Germ Theory: One should wash one's hands after sneezing into them. Now I'm off to Wikipedia to find out what Germ Theory really is. (I hope it's more than washing one's hands.) One would think most times when someone sneezes into their hands that they would automatically want to wash their hands, eh?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 20, 2014 10:20:02 GMT -5
Perhaps Christians should take a more careful look at "Easter."
It is after all a pagan belief with all the trappings of the "resurrection" of life in the spring after the death of winter. That concept played out in history through mythology a long time before Jesus ever lived. Even the church fathers have recognized that these are Pagan customs. But truthfully, are not most happenings just a shadow of something the same or similar of before times? Kind of like history repeating itself? People don't learn lessons from their predecessors?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 20, 2014 10:22:05 GMT -5
Christians maintain that Easter (resurrection) is the most significant in human history. if not what is? Easter would not have become so important if the Roman government did not mandate that the church fathers stop talking about where the custom of Easter came from. No difference at all from the workers denying the influence of William Irvine on the 2x2s. True! BTW, has anyone thought that according to the Jewish calendar that "Easter" or the "resurrection" didn't come on Sunday this year? Wow! Us Christian are off the boat with this, eh?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 20, 2014 16:45:54 GMT -5
Even the church fathers have recognized that these are Pagan customs. But truthfully, are not most happenings just a shadow of something the same or similar of before times? Kind of like history repeating itself? People don't learn lessons from their predecessors? This conclusion is purely the twist of a Christian apologist who has learned that Jesus birth, life, and death brought not a scrap of anything new into the world. And Christianity's Pagan ancestry was certainly not considered a foreshadowing of anything after the second century -- so it begs the question, why did the Church hide it all from the peasants?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 20, 2014 16:48:04 GMT -5
Easter would not have become so important if the Roman government did not mandate that the church fathers stop talking about where the custom of Easter came from. No difference at all from the workers denying the influence of William Irvine on the 2x2s. True! BTW, has anyone thought that according to the Jewish calendar that "Easter" or the "resurrection" didn't come on Sunday this year? Wow! Us Christian are off the boat with this, eh? Where did you learn this? Easter by definition falls on a Sunday, as does Ash Wednesday always fall on a Wednesday.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 20, 2014 16:49:17 GMT -5
Wikipedia, because without it, all I could do with XNA's list would be to nod, sagely. For example: Germ Theory: One should wash one's hands after sneezing into them. Now I'm off to Wikipedia to find out what Germ Theory really is. (I hope it's more than washing one's hands.) One would think most times when someone sneezes into their hands that they would automatically want to wash their hands, eh? Especially since germs were discovered in the last couple of centuries.
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