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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 14:22:24 GMT -5
I wonder how many of you have read any of Dr. Moody's book in the past? He has written a few books dealing with his findings from research he had conducted into the afterlife in the form of different Near Death Experiences (NDE's). I found his bestseller, "Life After Life," a fascinating read some years ago when it sold over 13 millions copies. He came out with another book after this one that I was not aware of until today entitled, "Glimpses into Eternity," which I just ordered on Amazon.com. This is a follow-up to his earlier book, which deals with "glimpses" that people get into the afterlife on their deathbed just before they do die. The earlier book dealt with those who had clinically died and came back to life and shared their NDE's with posterity regarding wisdom gained. Here's a look into Table of Contents of this book along with a brief Introduction at this site:
www.amazon.com/Glimpses-Eternity-Raymond-Moody/dp/0824948130/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396893126&sr=8-1&keywords=Glimpses+into+eternity#reader_B004HZXSGC
Why this book came to my attention was the result of a book I've just started reading entitled, "Why Believe? ~ Exploring the Honest Questions of Seekers" by Greg Laurie. This book brings out that it's okay to ask the hard questions found below:
Table of Content:
1) Why Am I Empty? 2) Why Am I Lonely? 3) Why Am I Afraid? 4) Why Am I Here? 5) What Happens When I Die? 6) What Does Jesus' Cross Mean to Me? 7) Why Do I Feel Guilty? 8) How Do I Receive Forgiveness? 9) What Now?
Chapter 5 caught my attention today as I read about the death bed glimpses into eternity that famous agnostic skeptics had experienced in the past and has been recorded ~ such as Thomas Paine and Voltaire. The same chapter also records the eternal glimpses of well known Christian evangelists of the past ~ such as Paul, Stephen, Polycarp, and D.L. Moody.
www.nairaland.com/746723/famous-atheists-last-words-before (Famous Atheists Last Words)
www.mapping.com/words.shtml (Famous People Alphabetically Last Words)
corsinet.com/braincandy/dying.html (Brainy Quote ~ Famous Last Words)
Here's a link to the last words of some famous people, including Thomas Paine and Voltaire above along with other skeptics from the past in addition to other the years to the present. It has been said that this was their moment of clarity just before they died, which was a lot like the story of the Beggar named Lazarus and the Rich Man that Jesus told in Luke 16:19-31. We also read of another's gl glimpse into eternity in Luke 12:19-21 regarding the rich young fool who had come to the end of his life and was about to face eternity.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2016%3A19-31&version=AMP;NIV;KJV
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2012%3A19-21&version=AMP;NIV;KJV
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 14:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 15:12:49 GMT -5
On one of these websites addressing atheists last words, I found this video about Albert Einstein and some of his famous quotes. I always thought he was an agnostic throughout his life, but wondered if he changed his views somewhat before his death from these quotes?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqha5IK4xE
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Post by xna on Apr 7, 2014 15:30:27 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Apr 7, 2014 16:07:02 GMT -5
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 16:27:26 GMT -5
Xna ~ I agree. These accountings of deathbed conversations, last word, and confessions do sell books and a lot of them, as the author of your first listing probably would agree? 1) Deathbed Conversations ~ Finding Faith at the Finish Line (Sounds like an interesting read regarding stars from the past!)
2) Now this one is just a little hard to believe. I realize Adolph Hitler was raised Roman Catholic and he used to wave the Bible around and quote verses when he first started campaigning for office back in the early 1930's, but his actions in killing all those millions of Jews consisting of men, women, and children as well as other political prisoners doesn't exactly fit the picture of a born again Christian?
3) Now these passages are all found within the Bible relating to the "unforgivable sin" and are used as a reason to condemn you to a lost eternity for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 16:35:27 GMT -5
On one of these websites addressing atheists last words, I found this video about Albert Einstein and some of his famous quotes. I always thought he was an agnostic throughout his life, but wondered if he changed his views somewhat before his death from these quotes?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqha5IK4xE
Faune Of course this isn’t a video on Albert Einstein on God as the title of the video would indicate. This is a video of Albert Einstein on God with a heavy dose of pro-Christian propaganda inserted at the end to help persuade the susceptible viewer into thinking that the God which Einstein was referring to was the Christian God when it was clearly nothing of the sort. I really start to wonder as to the purpose of posting this? If one wishes to draw attention to what Einstein said in relation to the concept of God, why not just post what Einstein actually said about God and leave people to make up their own minds rather than something that ends with a couple of dubious Christian propagandists misinterpreting what Einstein said to fit their only particular narrow religious view of the world? Claiming that ‘It seems that Albert Einstein spoke biblical truth unawares’ is just plain nonsense while all those ramblings about the death penalty for eternal transgressions and stuff about Calvary’s Cross seem to me to have nothing whatsoever to do with what Einstein said. This is surely deceptive at best? May I ask whether there is anything at all that would indicate to you that Einstein changed his views to embrace belief in the Christian God of the Bible, a book which claims as true numerous events which are clearly contrary to the very laws of nature, the laws of science and the laws of God which Einstein appears to have understood better than anyone else? Matt10
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 16:49:11 GMT -5
Matt10 ~ I put that video out there by Einstein because there are two views regarding Einstein and that was the Christian one for the sake of discussion.. However, I do not really believe myself that Einstein ever converted to Christianity or even believed in God. At the best, from reviewing his writings, he might qualify as a deist, but perhaps nothing beyond that supposition? I've always viewed Einstein as an agnostic from start to finish, but that's just my personal opinion. I believe this subject was also discussed on another thread recently entitled, "He Knew," if I remember right?
professing.proboards.com/thread/21934/knew
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 17:24:28 GMT -5
Matt10 ~ I put that video out there by Einstein because of its Christian leanings connected to it for discussion purposes. However, I don't really believe myself that Einstein ever converted to Christianity. At the best, from reviewing his writings, he might qualify as a deist, but perhaps nothing beyond that supposition? I've always viewed Einstein as an agnostic from start to finish, but that's just my personal opinion. I believe this subject was also discussed on another thread recently entitled, "He Knew," if I remember right? What Einstein did was prove that the biblical story of the ascension of the resurrected Jesus up to heaven was a scientific impossibility. One cannot believe in the truth of that story and believe what Einstein believed. The god in which Einstein may have believed was certainly not a god of convenience to be called upon when the laws of science didn't fit. Linking Einstein and Christianity makes little sense other than, perhaps, as a desperate act to help persuade people to believe in a god in whom Einstien did not believe himself. Matt10
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 19:26:23 GMT -5
Matt10 ~ I put that video out there by Einstein because of its Christian leanings connected to it for discussion purposes. However, I don't really believe myself that Einstein ever converted to Christianity. At the best, from reviewing his writings, he might qualify as a deist, but perhaps nothing beyond that supposition? I've always viewed Einstein as an agnostic from start to finish, but that's just my personal opinion. I believe this subject was also discussed on another thread recently entitled, "He Knew," if I remember right? What Einstein did was prove that the biblical story of the ascension of the resurrected Jesus up to heaven was a scientific impossibility. One cannot believe in the truth of that story and believe what Einstein believed. The god in which Einstein may have believed was certainly not a god of convenience to be called upon when the laws of science didn't fit. Linking Einstein and Christianity makes little sense other than, perhaps, as a desperate act to help persuade people to believe in a god in whom Einstien did not believe himself. Matt10 Matt10 ~ Here's that thread I referenced earlier entitled, "He Knew" in which Albert Einstein's beliefs were discussed at length. There are two different views on this subject, as I'm sure you know. But, I tend to agree with your own view that he was an agnostic to the day of this death and did not believe in any personal God or Savior. I believe Matisse supplied some of his writings towards the end of his life which supported this fact, too?
professing.proboards.com/thread/21934/knew
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Post by rational on Apr 7, 2014 19:52:50 GMT -5
I wonder how many of you have read any of Dr. Moody's book in the past? I was hoping to read the results of his 'research' from the Consciousness Studies program at UNLV but after five years with no significant results he could no longer get funding. And not a lot of people are having much luck in his mirrored room in GA. Maybe the dead are afraid of mirrors.
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 20:11:44 GMT -5
I wonder how many of you have read any of Dr. Moody's book in the past? I was hoping to read the results of his 'research' from the Consciousness Studies program at UNLV but after five years with no significant results he could no longer get funding. And not a lot of people are having much luck in his mirrored room in GA. Maybe the dead are afraid of mirrors. Rational ~ This is all news to me, but thanks for leaving a comment to this new thread of mine! Have you considered my Skeptics thread yet, which I just posted to a few minutes ago? I figured you would like that one to explore for yourself?
professing.proboards.com/thread/21965/skeptical-christian-playing-devils-advocate
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Post by rational on Apr 7, 2014 20:19:11 GMT -5
Have you considered my Skeptics thread yet, which I just posted to a few minutes ago? I figured you would like that one to explore for yourself? Generally speaking, I do not read long cut/paste posts. If I am interested in a subject I find that I can search and read the site without fear of reading excerpts that suffer from selection bias. I like to read what people actually think rather than how well they can CTRL-C/CTRL-V.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2014 1:26:00 GMT -5
What Einstein did was prove that the biblical story of the ascension of the resurrected Jesus up to heaven was a scientific impossibility. One cannot believe in the truth of that story and believe what Einstein believed. The god in which Einstein may have believed was certainly not a god of convenience to be called upon when the laws of science didn't fit. Linking Einstein and Christianity makes little sense other than, perhaps, as a desperate act to help persuade people to believe in a god in whom Einstien did not believe himself. Matt10 Matt10 ~ Here's that thread I referenced earlier entitled, "He Knew" in which Albert Einstein's beliefs were discussed at length. There are two different views on this subject, as I'm sure you know. But, I tend to agree with your own view that he was an agnostic to the day of this death and did not believe in any personal God or Savior. I believe Matisse supplied some of his writings towards the end of his life which supported this fact, too?
professing.proboards.com/thread/21934/knew
Fauns My own view is not that he was agnostic. My own view is that he did not believe in the Christian God of the Bible. He may have been agnostic or he may not. I really have no idea and I don't think it is really important. I'm not a big fan of trying to squeeze people unto little boxes.what I object strongly too is the taking of statements that support a belief in a god that he claims not to understand and mispresenting this as evidence to support a belief in a resurrected or a soul saving Jesus. I'm afraid I'm with Rational in this in that I prefer to read what people think and the basis for their thinking rather than the endless posting of scriptural verses, links and youtube videos. I'm more interested in your views on the laws of science as promoted by Einstein and how you think they are (or are not) compatable with belief in what is written in the Bible about Jesus after his crucifixion. Matt10
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Post by faune on Apr 8, 2014 7:46:08 GMT -5
Matt10 ~ Well, I definitely agree that with you on that fact that he did not believe in the Christian God of the Bible. He made that personally clear on more them one occasion! However, I feel you can't have a discussion without putting some things out there to consider for comment, which is just what I do whenever I start any new human interest thread. Giving some background material with different views shared on a subject is always a good practice, IMHO? That's just a habit of mine for opening any discussion. I also have no problem sharing my own personal views afterwards regarding the same topic under consideration ~ like I just did on Einstein. My main interest for starting any human interest thread is to inform in the beginning and to open the topic up for debate, like in a group session format.
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Post by faune on Apr 8, 2014 14:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 8, 2014 14:42:04 GMT -5
I wonder how many of you have read any of Dr. Moody's book in the past? He has written a few books dealing with his findings from research he had conducted into the afterlife in the form of different Near Death Experiences (NDE's). I found his bestseller, "Life After Life," a fascinating read some years ago when it sold over 13 millions copies. My Dad died in 1983, when I was 25 years old. This was kind of a big deal to me, as he was the first person that I was ever really close to who had died. For the next 5 years, I read voraciously on any topic approaching death, including NDE's. "Life After Life" was one of the books I read in this time period and it was very meaningful to me then. My Mom died when I was 30. Now, this was a person that I was extremely close to, to the extent when I was younger and thought of ever losing her, I sometimes wondered if I would even be able to continue breathing in and out without her. The "homework" I did in that 5 year interval of my Dad dying and my Mom dying was SO important. I believe that it also laid the foundation for my departure from 2X2ism with some sense of groundedness and equanimity, 7 years later.
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Post by snow on Apr 8, 2014 15:29:42 GMT -5
I wonder how many of you have read any of Dr. Moody's book in the past? He has written a few books dealing with his findings from research he had conducted into the afterlife in the form of different Near Death Experiences (NDE's). I found his bestseller, "Life After Life," a fascinating read some years ago when it sold over 13 millions copies. My Dad died in 1983, when I was 25 years old. This was kind of a big deal to me, as he was the first person that I was ever really close to who had died. For the next 5 years, I read voraciously on any topic approaching death, including NDE's. "Life After Life" was one of the books I read in this time period and it was very meaningful to me then. My Mom died when I was 30. Now, this was a person that I was extremely close to, to the extent when I was younger and thought of ever losing her, I sometimes wondered if I would even be able to continue breathing in and out without her. The "homework" I did in that 5 year interval of my Dad dying and my Mom dying was SO important. I believe that it also laid the foundation for my departure from 2X2ism with some sense of groundedness and equanimity, 7 years later. I remember picking up Moody's book and reading it. It was the first one of that type that I read. It was during my very atheistic period where anything even talking about life after death seemed like a fairy tale. I read later that he has since reversed his views about NDE's. Not sure why, as I haven't looked into that statement in any depth. But he was the first Nde book I read and have read quite a few after that. I'm glad it made things easier for you when your mom died.
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 8, 2014 17:11:32 GMT -5
I remember picking up Moody's book and reading it. It was the first one of that type that I read. It was during my very atheistic period where anything even talking about life after death seemed like a fairy tale. I read later that he has since reversed his views about NDE's. Not sure why, as I haven't looked into that statement in any depth. But he was the first Nde book I read and have read quite a few after that. I'm glad it made things easier for you when your mom died. It's not that the book provided any "answers" for me. Indeed, I still have a pretty open mind where NDE's are concerned, and what they might mean. One thing that is fairly clear, though, is that they tend to have pretty positive effects on the people who have them and how they live their lives going forward. But, it was a "conversation starter" for me, where I started to truly explore the mystery of death and other big life questions quite independently from the traditions I was raised in. To me, life's big questions are pretty much captured in the following: 1) Who am I? 2) Where did I come from? 3) Where I am going? 4) What shall I do while I am here? I now don't care much what constructs or terminology that a person uses to answer them. Provided a person's answers allows them to lead lives of connection and of meaning, I have respect for that. Somehow it always comes back to the fruit of the spirit for me.
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Post by snow on Apr 8, 2014 21:06:41 GMT -5
I remember picking up Moody's book and reading it. It was the first one of that type that I read. It was during my very atheistic period where anything even talking about life after death seemed like a fairy tale. I read later that he has since reversed his views about NDE's. Not sure why, as I haven't looked into that statement in any depth. But he was the first Nde book I read and have read quite a few after that. I'm glad it made things easier for you when your mom died. It's not that the book provided any "answers" for me. Indeed, I still have a pretty open mind where NDE's are concerned, and what they might mean. One thing that is fairly clear, though, is that they tend to have pretty positive effects on the people who have them and how they live their lives going forward. But, it was a "conversation starter" for me, where I started to truly explore the mystery of death and other big life questions quite independently from the traditions I was raised in. To me, life's big questions are pretty much captured in the following: 1) Who am I? 2) Where did I come from? 3) Where I am going? 4) What shall I do while I am here? I now don't care much what constructs or terminology that a person uses to answer them. Provided a person's answers allows them to lead lives of connection and of meaning, I have respect for that. Somehow it always comes back to the fruit of the spirit for me. Makes sense why it would come back to that.
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Post by rational on Apr 9, 2014 8:40:04 GMT -5
It's not that the book provided any "answers" for me. Indeed, I still have a pretty open mind where NDE's are concerned, and what they might mean. One thing that is fairly clear, though, is that they tend to have pretty positive effects on the people who have them and how they live their lives going forward. the positive ones are the ones published, the ones that people want to read about. Read Nancy Bush's Dancing Past the Dark: Distressing Near-Death Experiences. Here are some thoughts on the other side where people did not experience all light and happiness: Hellish Near-Death Experiences.As usual, there are two sides to every story.
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 9, 2014 9:26:37 GMT -5
It's not that the book provided any "answers" for me. Indeed, I still have a pretty open mind where NDE's are concerned, and what they might mean. One thing that is fairly clear, though, is that they tend to have pretty positive effects on the people who have them and how they live their lives going forward. the positive ones are the ones published, the ones that people want to read about. Read Nancy Bush's Dancing Past the Dark: Distressing Near-Death Experiences. Here are some thoughts on the other side where people did not experience all light and happiness: Hellish Near-Death Experiences.As usual, there are two sides to every story. This has not been a particular area of interest of mine for a number years now, so I haven't kept up with recent accounts. However, I did read one of the early books on a negative near death experience ~ 15 years ago now. (I don't remember off hand which one it was, but it is probably still in my book collection somewhere.) For this individual, even though it was quite a negative experience for her, it affected her deeply and it still had a very positive effect on how she lived her life going forward. (And, no, it certainly did not convert her to conservative Bible-based Christianity.)
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Post by embers on Apr 9, 2014 10:09:04 GMT -5
Faune, I just came across a program on HuluPlus called AFTERLIFE. Moody was interviewed in this program. I'd heard of him before, but had never put any thought into the man or his writings. I found the program and the interview with Moody very interesting. This subject has always interested me, but has always been taboo in my family. I think I'm going to look into this more.
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Post by snow on Apr 9, 2014 10:28:04 GMT -5
the positive ones are the ones published, the ones that people want to read about. Read Nancy Bush's Dancing Past the Dark: Distressing Near-Death Experiences. Here are some thoughts on the other side where people did not experience all light and happiness: Hellish Near-Death Experiences.As usual, there are two sides to every story. This has not been a particular area of interest of mine for a number years now, so I haven't kept up with recent accounts. However, I did read one of the early books on a negative near death experience ~ 15 years ago now. (I don't remember off hand which one it was, but it is probably still in my book collection somewhere.) For this individual, even though it was quite a negative experience for her, it affected her deeply and it still had a very positive effect on how she lived her life going forward. (And, no, it certainly did not convert her to conservative Bible-based Christianity.) I don't know if you're familiar with the Tibetan bardo concept? Basically in very simplistic terms (because it is quite complex) you first experience what you expect to experience. This makes some sense that some experience nothing if that's what they expect, some see Jesus if they are Christian or some have hellish experiences if they think they deserve that. However, like in the bardo concept people's initial experience can be changed just by thinking a new thought about it. In the hellish experiences I have read and I haven't read Rationals link yet, most of the time they do end up going to the light and feeling peace after a time in darkness and feeling fear. What I do find interesting from these stories though is that though they think they are experiencing these things, they don't actually seem to be 'suffering'. It's an interesting subject, and like you I did quite a bit of reading quite a while ago. Lately I look into them from time to time. The one that interested me the most was Anita Moorjani's experience.
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Post by SharonArnold on Apr 9, 2014 18:28:14 GMT -5
I don't know if you're familiar with the Tibetan bardo concept? Basically in very simplistic terms (because it is quite complex) you first experience what you expect to experience. This makes some sense that some experience nothing if that's what they expect, some see Jesus if they are Christian or some have hellish experiences if they think they deserve that. However, like in the bardo concept people's initial experience can be changed just by thinking a new thought about it. In the hellish experiences I have read and I haven't read Rationals link yet, most of the time they do end up going to the light and feeling peace after a time in darkness and feeling fear. What I do find interesting from these stories though is that though they think they are experiencing these things, they don't actually seem to be 'suffering'. It's an interesting subject, and like you I did quite a bit of reading quite a while ago. Lately I look into them from time to time. The one that interested me the most was Anita Moorjani's experience. I don't know anything about the Tibetan bardo concept, but have come across similar ideas in other contexts. For myself, if it was an exam question, I would tend to think that we experience whatever we want to/need to in the death process - until such time we are willing to let it (all) go. (But then, I have no problems with entertaining the thought that all is "maya" (illusion). I think that it is quite possible that we are all within a type of Virtual Reality, all of our own making/choosing.) I read Anita's book when it was first released. There are a lot of lessons there, no matter what mental constructs we might choose to use. I tend to classify it, in my own mind, as a "Call to Life", rather than just an NDE account.
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Post by snow on Apr 10, 2014 9:57:05 GMT -5
I don't know if you're familiar with the Tibetan bardo concept? Basically in very simplistic terms (because it is quite complex) you first experience what you expect to experience. This makes some sense that some experience nothing if that's what they expect, some see Jesus if they are Christian or some have hellish experiences if they think they deserve that. However, like in the bardo concept people's initial experience can be changed just by thinking a new thought about it. In the hellish experiences I have read and I haven't read Rationals link yet, most of the time they do end up going to the light and feeling peace after a time in darkness and feeling fear. What I do find interesting from these stories though is that though they think they are experiencing these things, they don't actually seem to be 'suffering'. It's an interesting subject, and like you I did quite a bit of reading quite a while ago. Lately I look into them from time to time. The one that interested me the most was Anita Moorjani's experience. I don't know anything about the Tibetan bardo concept, but have come across similar ideas in other contexts. For myself, if it was an exam question, I would tend to think that we experience whatever we want to/need to in the death process - until such time we are willing to let it (all) go. (But then, I have no problems with entertaining the thought that all is "maya" (illusion). I think that it is quite possible that we are all within a type of Virtual Reality, all of our own making/choosing.) I read Anita's book when it was first released. There are a lot of lessons there, no matter what mental constructs we might choose to use. I tend to classify it, in my own mind, as a "Call to Life", rather than just an NDE account. I think the idea of Maya (illusion) is only right here, now in our present existence and who and what we really are is what we rebecome at death? That's how I understand the Maya concept anyway. Yes Anita is a more call to life. Live it, don't worry so much about what others think and be true to ourselves.
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Post by faune on Apr 10, 2014 11:11:16 GMT -5
Faune, I just came across a program on HuluPlus called AFTERLIFE. Moody was interviewed in this program. I'd heard of him before, but had never put any thought into the man or his writings. I found the program and the interview with Moody very interesting. This subject has always interested me, but has always been taboo in my family. I think I'm going to look into this more. Embers ~ I read Raymond Moody's book, "Life after Life" years ago and I just ordered the newer one "Glimpses into Eternity," to see what may have changed in his perspective over the years, as Snow brought out earlier. I'm fascinated with stories of NDE's these days. In fact, I'm reading a trilogy account by Nanci Danison entitled "Backward Beliefs." Since her NDE, she seems to have become more New Age Thought in her thinking compared to her Roman Catholic raising? You can find a lot of her interviews on You-tube and her books on Amazon and her own website. I'm not that familiar with New Age beliefs, so it's a slow read for me. I'm not sure I agree with a lot of what she shares, but I'm curious as to why she has changed her beliefs so drastically from the past?
However, her first book was not written until 13 years after the experience of near death in October 2007. Before going on to law school and becoming a well known lawyer in the medical health field, she majored in Biology and Psychology in college, and studied a lot on religions during those undergraduate years. She has also read many books on this subject matter after her NDE experience, which probably accounts for the 13 year gap of gathering research on this subject before writing her first book? It sounds like she got involved in New Age Thought afterwards, as reflected by her present perspective?
Due to her training, her books cover a lot of different areas in far more detail compared to other NDE stories and experiences I have read in the past. So, you have to take it slow with her books to digest the full meaning of what she's trying to convey. However, it's well worth the effort to find out more from somebody who has explored this subject well before writing of her own experience. Her insights and writing style is more like a textbook synopsis, but very informative in the area of detail and explanation. I guess that comes from her years as trial lawyer in the medical profession?
ndestories.org/nanci-danison/ (Nanci Danison ~ NDE Stories, Videos & More)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezgq2bNbJU (Nanci Danison ~ The Ripple Effect After an NDE)
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Post by embers on Apr 10, 2014 17:40:46 GMT -5
Hi Snow, Maya is "Illusion." Maya (according to Hinduism/Vaishnavaism) is when one associates with the material body instead of with the spirit (the spirit being the 'real you.')
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